B. U. G. S.

This is an exchange I had in Stormfront. We have the usual problem that what I am discussing is BELOW my reply.

My point is that, while UC USED Bob’s Mantra, he is not fully familiar with the LOGIC of it.

All my points interrelate. My Mantra and Wordism seem far apart.

If you are to explain why “educated people believe this” you have to go back to the basics of the environment that education came from.

If you take my points together, you form a trap which will not let your opponent get out of the simple truth.

UC did an excellent job. I gave him some advice.

But the time will come when, like my 1976 book A Plague on Both Your Houses, people will wonder what all the fuss was about.

My goal is not to be given credit. My goal is a time when everything I say is so well understood that nobody understands why I had to say it.

That is POWER.

Here is the exchange:

MY REPLY:

UC is doing EXACTLY what should be done. He is engaging the enemy.

I keep pointing out that while all us macho males associate heroism with being in battle, the simple fact is that not one single war hero in all of history has ever made the slightest difference in the tide of history.

This is critical.

The tide of history is determined by those who have the moral courage to get out there and fight it out in the battle of ideas. By the time it gets to a battlefield, everything has already been decided in the REAL battle.

But in the war of ideas, you only learn by DOING.

My comments have teh effect of Monday-morning quarterbacking. Hindsight is 20/20.

Canuck developed his own points. He saw whether they were effective in the actual battle he was actually in.

After long practice, once the person said he attached no particular importance to white people, I would have asked him if he has ANY feeling of special loyalty to ANY people.

The really important point is that Unconditioned Canuck used Bob’s Mantra:

” Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.”

“The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.”

“Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.”

“What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries.”

“How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I want the final solution to the BLACK problem?”

“And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?”

“But if I say that, I’m a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”

“Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”

He found that this Mantra puts the other guy on the defensive. He is no longer objectively defending Humanity or doing anything he has been taught to do.

UC’s opponent came up with an answer:

“One thing the antagonistic individual brought up in the debate was that he didn’t associate any extra meaning to White people (in comparison to others) – thus, from his perspective, there would be no reason to preserve us.”

“In addition he mentioned that, if there was something about us of special value, from an evolutionary point of view, those genetic permutations would probably be captured during the mixing with other races.”

Having been through so many of these battles, I have my own approach to this. I stick to the Mantra. The magic word is ***I***

As I said in my two minutes at the last EURO Conference, “It is not a question of THE white race. It is a question of ***MY*** race.”

This person was able to switch the conversation to THE white race: “If there was something about us of special value…”

I go right back to the mantra: “So you are saying you are only loyal to something that has special value. Do you have any loyalty to your country? Do you have any loyalty to your family?

What would you think of the black man I mentioned who would simply accept a program of genocide against blacks?

Could he take an oath of allegiance to Canada to enter government service?

Now here is a very important point: everything I say connects.

Often the person will say that he is only loyal to principles. I then have a chance to go into the whole concept of Wordism, on which I did a program.

He is saying he is only loyal to principles, which is exactly what the Inquisition said.

But my way of thinking is mine alone. I cannot even GET anybody to argue with me now.

I am NOT a Wordist. I did a Stormfront radio program on Wordism.

Are they loyal to ANYTHING?

If they are loyal to some words, do they have any idea what monstrosities have been justified in a loyalty to words?

What I push is a way of thinking. I don’t want anybody to worship me after I am dead. I want them to advance so that what I say is basic arithmetic and they are reaching the stars with calculus.

There is no Whitakerism that is rigidly written down in a book.

There never will be.

Fight it out, Canuck!

[QUOTE=Unconditioned Canuck]:)

Hi Mr Whitaker,

I’m working from my family’s cottage which appears to have internet connection 😀

When debating someone earlier today I used some of your mantra. One thing the antagonistic individual brought up in the debate was that he didn’t associate any extra meaning to White people (in comparison to others) – thus, from his perspective, there would be no reason to preserve us.

In addition he mentioned that, if there was something about us of special value, from an evolutionary point of view, those genetic permutations would probably be captured during the mixing with other races.

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So, I had two [B]points [/B]to address and win:

[B]1) [/B]Is there anything valuable about the White race?
[B]2) [/B]Will White race family lines benefit (evolve) by allowing themselves to disappear through mixing?

[B]Point 1)[/B] Is easily won (IMO) by comparing humans to other animal species

Bears: polar bears, brown bears, black bears – are fertile, would we ever want a day in which there were no more herds of polar bears in the Northern Hemisphere to examine and appreciate?

Breeds of dogs: almost all common breeds of dog are fertile and there are clear differences in intelligence, mannerism, beauty, etc

[B][URL=”http://www.petrix.com/dogint/intelligence.html”]Ranking of Dogs for Obedience/Working Intelligence by Breed[/URL][/B] – this study concludes that border collies are the most intelligent, afghan hounds are the least

[B]Point 2) [/B]Is easily won (IMO) by pointing out that from the perspective of Whites, our mixing with other races would be considered a [B]devolution [/B]not an evolution because:
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[*]one – despite having slightly lower IQs on average in comparison to Orientals, based on a comparison of creativity (music, art, science and technology, etc) and knowing that, especially with respect to Japan, both our societies have generally been on par in terms of industrial potential, WE have a far greater propensity for creativity, on average, within our race; in addition, our intellect IQ is sufficiently high so as to make the need for mixing, based on an IQ acquisition benefit, [B]meaningless[/B] (in the aggregate)
[*]two – our race is exceptionally better looking in comparison to others, not only do most of us think so, but most of them think so (polls conducted on Black or Oriental questioneers strictly show this); not only is this quality (prettiness) worthy of preservation for its attractive value, but perhaps the beauty of the White race is partly responsible for inspiration towards vital productive endeavours ie art, science, technology, etc[/LIST]From the perspective of other races, their mixing with us, without a doubt, could be considered an evolution rather than a devolution, no differently than a border collie mixing with an afghan would be considered an evolution from the perspective of the afghan but a devolution from the perspective of the border collie.

My conclusionary point: selling our organizations: Stormfront, etc.

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Note: one difference between the races I failed to mention was voice sound – important for singing
Last note: Mr Whitaker’s analogy of non-Blacks pouring into Black nations to solve a Black problem would be better stated with respect to Orientals because Blacks have a genetically dominant overall phenotype when mixing with non-Blacks (ie Black + non-Black hybrids look Black – they don’t lose numbers through miscegenation, polls conducted have shown Blacks to be the least opposed to miscegenation / they’re overwhelmingly in favour of it).
Final edit: describing the widespread anti-White sentiment predominant in Western opinion in terms of [B][I]Biological Marxism[/I][/B] also assisted me in winning the debate.[/QUOTE]