“So one commenter told me that the reason people did not go the trouble of putting Bob’s Mantra in newsgroups was because

they were afraid to put their names on the Mantra in public.”

Who said that? I read through the comments and I didn’t see anyone saying that.

Now I said: “It may be some of us are wary about posting our activities where anyone can read them,” and what I meant was

that it may be that people are posting your comments all over, but they didn’t think it would be helpful to publicize a

report of where and when, lest that lead to deletions of your Mantra in fora by Jews reading this blog and then threatening

to sue those message boards. Some of us have told you about posts. Perhaps not everyone can see a reason to give a

play-by-play here.

Or would you like that?

Comment by Pain

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“Perhaps not everyone can see a reason to give a play-by-play here.”

Amen, brother.

Comment by Mark

MY REPLY:

Pain, I misread you. Sorry. But my misreading led to a comment which I needed to make.

As to play-by-play, please don’t let it interfere with constructive work. I keep getting reminded others have lives, and it never occurs to anybody that I do, too, so I understand time limitations.

But we need play-by-play here. You cannot imagine how encouraging it is to me that one of our commenters keeps telling me how he is USING Blog arguments. I believe in prewaching to the choir, but we do give the impression that we are only talking to each other. ONLY play-by-play can overcome that impression.

NOT PLAY-BY-PLAY actually. Just a general one or two sentence ( see our summary experts here) report on hwat you are doing and especially the responses you get would help a LOT.

Budarick’s website ( our discussion repeated below) reminds me of Catell’s Beyondism. There was an actual convention on it, and Beyondism was considered a threat for while by the Jews. I think Budarick may want to look into Beyondism and comment on it in his blog. Maybe Budarick could also take up where Cattell left off.

To make it clear that Beyondism was considered a threat by our enemies, I refer you to the attack on it which was the first item to appear in my Yahoo! search inspired by Budarick:

Beyondism: Raymond B. Cattell and the New Eugenics
by Barry Mehler
Originally published in Genetica 99: 153-163 (1997). Revised for posting on ISAR web page, Copyright ©, ISAR, January 1998.

http://www.ferris.edu/isar/bios/Cattell/genetica.htm

ORIGINAL PIECE:

Budarick
Filed under: Comment Responses— Bob @ 12:59 pm Edit This
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Dear Bob,

Please spread www.quatzikosahan.com widely and on StormFront too.

I have given up my love affair with Hitler!

I am taking on the world without the crutch of Hitler to lean on.

I now have for the first time original material of substance
on my website and i shall be working on it EVERY day.

Go have a look.

When my ban on SF is over in September
i shall apologize there and then get on with MY work.

Thanks for all your help Bob.

We sure are going to kick some ass from now on!

PGB.

Comment by PeterGene Budarick

MY REPLY:

You have gladdened an old man’s heart!

Remember that Hitler himself fought his heart out for the Second Reich in World War I, but when it fell, he went on. It is time for you to do the same.

Welcome aboard!

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Dear Bob,

Please spread www.quatzikosahan.com widely and on StormFront too.

I have given up my love affair with Hitler!

I am taking on the world without the crutch of Hitler to lean on.

I now have for the first time original material of substance
on my website and i shall be working on it EVERY day.

Go have a look.

When my ban on SF is over in September
i shall apologize there and then get on with MY work.

Thanks for all your help Bob.

We sure are going to kick some ass from now on!

PGB.

Comment by PeterGene Budarick

MY REPLY:

You have gladdened an old man’s heart!

Remember that Hitler himself fought his heart out for the Second Reich in World War I, but when it fell, he went on. It is time for you to do the same.

Welcome aboard!

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You said a while ago that you’d be going to the BNP’s Red White and Blue festival this summer. Are you still coming?

Comment by richard

***** Richard, I spent a lot of time trying to find out who it was who had said they would be disappointede if I didnn’t make it to the BNP Conference as I had promised. I coudn’t FIND it.

It doesn’t look like I am. Cheap air fares cannot be gotten in August and with the Value Added Tax, Europe now costs a fortune to visit. I fly round trip to Moscow for less than one-way to London in August.

I have received no indication that the BNP wants me there particularly, which would be my motive for going. NG seemed to want me there when I talked to him last here in the States, but I think he has his hands full there.

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Repetition was what Goebbels states, as being the very essence of propaganda. Repetition of tired arguments, is exactly what we get from the ‘anti-racist/multiracialist’ crowd, and last time, I looked, it worked for them. But they have TV, schools, universities, radio, books, newspapers.

Comment by Dennis

Stolen by the Blog

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The hand wringer saying “all is lost”.

I have a question.
As a newbie trying to make sense of things as they are,
I have found a simple definition for left and right.
An absolute rightist puts blood before belief.
An absolute leftist puts belief before blood.
If you devised a test to score a population’s standing on this you would probably get a Bell curve.
Most people are in the center, which are moderates.
Whites rank high on this wordist scale.
Our racial competitors do not, by a large margin.
There are no Chinese marxists as we understand it.
No Jewish liberals.
No Black christians.

What do you think?

Also, an ass has a purpose and value.
An intellectual is a waste of rescources.

Comment by mderpelding

MY REPLY:

First off, this an exceelent way to out it. But I have fallen out of love with the right. What about “A decent person puts blood before belief. A Wordist puts belief before blood.

We need to separte outselves from the right-left bit.

You gave me a short piece with lots to chew on. I am thinking over what you said about non-white Wordists. Does anyone else have a comment on this?

Your last point: I think a person who would rather be called an ass than an intellectual has purpose and value, hence your last sentence is spot on.

Nobody needs to call himself an “intellectual” unless it is a dodge for saying something ridiculous and expecting people to take him seriously.

Good work.

I just went through over 400 Spam, looking for NO SPAM

None. So I hit on “Mark all as spam.”

If you don’t start with NOT SPAM, separate paragraph, preferably twice, you get cut from now on. If you say this is giving you orders, you have no consideration for someone with Attention Deficit.

I assume no one has commented. Or you are playing competitive macho.

If you want to comment, help me out. If not, to hell with it.

One additional admittedly pointless point.

I said below that,

1) I am trying to avoid boredom here and

2) If I am being an ass, you should tell me so.

These two points can logically contradict each other. If you point it out every single time I make an ass of myself, our discussion could be hopelessly repetitive.

Joe, check your lexicon. We need some synonyms for “ass.”

mderpelding says:

Truly sophisticated people can kiss my you know what.
Truman never rejected his machine politician beginnings.
The “sainted JFK” actually was hit by a Japanese destroyer in a war zone for crying out loud.
After being kicked out of a cushy Naval intelligence posting.
His father was ambassador to the UK.
I happen to like Bach, and other polyphonic music.
But blacks and blonds disgust me.
JFK’s, FDR’s , HST’s , and all their fellow travellors no longer matter.
None of us can change yesterday.
Every decent man I know has regrets.
Because our gut speaks to us.
I need your help for tomorrow.

Comment by mderpelding — 7/17/2006 @ 9:46 pm | Edit This

Please don’t talk past me.
I will try to reciprocate.

Comment by mderpelding

MY REPLY:

Reading this blog the last thing you would dare accuse anybody of being is KIND. But mderpelding is being kind here. He made a quick list of a few things things he knows. Repeat, “a few.”

I keep repeating that I make the mistakes I condemn. Again and again and again I have made the exact miustake I accuse other ex-professors of making. I assumed that the people I am talking to are ignorant. People like mderpelding are just a little bit tired of people making that assumption, in the same sense that Simon LeGare’s slaves were a LITTLE tired of being whipped.

Point taken, mederpelding, with apologies. I will do my damnedest, which is pretty damned, not to talk past you.

But commenters are also touchy about this. A lifetime of dealing with giggling professors will do that to you. I just admitted that I am thin-skinned about the World War II Generation. How can I ask you not to take it personally when I go off on a tangent you made me think of? Do you REALLY want to read, “Now, Joe, I am saying you are making the neo mistake here, but I am not accusing you of being a neo.” Very soon you would be saying, “Dammit Bob, get to the friggin’ POINT!”

I want people to start with the basics. This does not mean they are implying that I don’t KNOW the basics. In his quick little list, mderpelding said “After being kicked out of a cushy Naval intelligence posting.” I am going to look that one up. I didn’t know about it.

This reminds me of an episode in the old camp TV program “Batman.” Batman was explaining some obscure facts about Tutankhamen and Robin said, “Gee, Batman, is there ANYTHING you don’t know?” In a spirit of humility Batman answered, “Yes, Robin, there are things I don’t know. SEVERAL things.”

“Several” means more than one but not many. This was perfect camp. Batman admitted that, in the entire universe, not only was there something he did not know, but ther was more than one thing he did not know.

But not many.

You hit on one of the several things that even semi-omniscient Bob doesn’t know!!!

The reason I am worth bearing with is that I know that my pretenses are a joke. I just need to be reminded of it a lot.

And try to remember that you, too, can misunderstand what I am doing. Do you REALLY want me to go through all the “mderspelding/Joe, Elizabeth/Shari, Dave knows this and I am not accusing you of ….”? Do you REALLY want to read all that crap?

I go to a lot of effort to insist that you separate yourself from all the spam. I keep repeating that I am not the Ultimate Authority, I am leading a seminar. If I talk past you, call me on it. This is not a lecture.
Let me do my thing and you do your thing.

I am very often an ass. Just say so.

Joe seems to be familiuar with alcohol and drug recovery, but I doubt he has ever been IN it.

But Joe is a wise old bastard, so he understands. He says:

“A sponsor’s first responsibility is to lead a pigeon through the 12 Steps. It is not the sponsor’s responsibility to prevent the pigeon from falling down. If they fall and you blame yourself you are not fit to be a sponsor. That, by the way, is not an unusual occurrence. There’s a lot of sponsors who don’t know what their job is and it shows. ”

I have never heard a sponsor refer to anybody in the program as “a pigeon.” You are a sponsor only if you live in the same glass house, so you don’t throw stones. But your point, because you understand things by now, is dead accurate.

Bob’s Blog is written from Bob’s point of view. So I knew a lot of people who had been brave in combat but who died because they could not handle drugs. So to me the kid fighting drugs is more impressive than the old fart bragging about how heroic he was in Nam or WWII. To keep anybody from getting all choked up abouthow I respect these young folks, please remember that I am expressing a deep personal loathing for grown men I have heard moaning about what heroes they were in The War. If the old guys sitting at the alcoholics club were the heroes they claim they were, iuf they couold handle everything by Personal Valor the way they say they can, they wouldn’t be in a recovery program.

And for every one bragging old bastard in the recovery club, there are ten who dies because they didn’t have the guts and the humility to get there. The old AA members are a pain in the keester. They kept bragging about how they were alcoholics but they were too good to touch drugs. I found the perfect reply:

“You know, you should thank us junkies. Who else on earth can an old drunk look DOWN on?”

I was in Narcotics Anonymous mostly. In that group, I was the second oldest person, and I have always been in politics, so I threw myself into helping out. Contrary to popular myth, people in politics are mostly people who want to help people out. As a result of this combination, I got asked to be sponsor by a LOT of people. Even my counsellors in recovery would ask me how the session went when I was new.

As a result, I got sponsees long before I was ready for them. No matter old and wise you are, you go through the same phases when you, personally, are a drunk and a junkey. No matter how old and wise you are, no matter how many episodes of combat you have been in, you are still deep in the same hole with everybody else. In fact, if you are older it just means you stay in the early phases LONGER. A kid who was clean and sober for a year after a decade overusing was in his next phase. I had been overusing for decades, and at the end of the first year I was still a complete wreck.

In other words, when I took sponsees I had the requisite year but I was still in the “pins and cushions” stage. I still did not have the perspective not to FEEL I had let someon down. I knew the program, but that doesn’t mean I understood the concept. But I didn’t let it make me a bad sponsor. It just hurt ME.

But I keep saying that the mistakes I condemn are the ones I have made myself. This is just anohter example of that. If I say you are acting like a neo, you may be sure I have acted like a neo many, many times before I caught myself. If you think I condemn YOU, you should remember what I said to myself. The last persojn we Aryans forgive is ourselves.

To repeat what one German wisely said, “If we said to others what we say to ourselves, we would be considered sadists.” Remember that is very true of ME. That is why you are willing to take from me a lot you wouldn’t stand for from someone else.

And that is why Ole Joe enjoys battling it out with me.

Joe said,

“Not Spam. **A sponsor’s first responsibility is to lead a pigeon through the 12 Steps. It is not the sponsor’s responsibility to prevent the pigeon from falling down. If they fall and you blame yourself you are not fit to be a sponsor. That, by the way, is not an unusual occurrence. There’s a lot of sponsors who don’t know what their job is and it shows.

Yes, you’re still going to use “silly” and “sophisticated” excessively because you are not one to accept correction.

That piece you just wrote, by the way, didn’t make a damn bit of sense to me. I mean the whole piece. I’m not talking about the stupid nonsense about me being a neoconservative. That’s taken as a joke. That’s all it could be. Mderpelding wasn’t giving you a compliment, Bob. He was slapping your face as I read it. When somebody says, “who made you God?” that’s not a compliment. That’s a challenge. No, don’t send me any money. The lesson is free.

Comment by joe rorke

** I damn near marked this as Spam, and NOT on purpose. See comment below, “Random Comments.”

MY REPLY:

I also said in recent piece that I was acting like a Jew. When I think you are acting like a neo or a Buckley I say so. I say so precisely because that is not how you want to act. If I thought you WERE a neo or a George Will this would not be corection, but a compliment. I do not see you taking it as a compliment.

The day I urge I urge you to take neos seriously is the day you can blow a gasket. Don’t hold your breath inthe meantime.

I read over your comments again and you want me to use better words. “Silly” is, as you say, girl’s word. It is the sort of word one would use to describe girlish behavior. Two commenters gave examples of social science teachers who had hysterics in their classrooms.

You are fully aware of the derivation of hte word “hysterical.” It is a feminine term, as in historectomy.”

I said that attitude is everything. What is the exact attitude that professors adopt against us? It is either hysterics or giggling. You have run into it plenty, and I defy you to say there is anything masculine about:

“But, dear boy, that is so GAUCHE! Isn’t, Chauncey, isn’t it Bertram?” Bertram and Chauncey join in the giggling. “My dear boy, no one wears that opinion any more! Don’t you read the Fashion Journals? They would laugh you to death at the Sorbonne!”

Joe, you said in your comments you had substitutes for my words, but you woldn’t tell me what they were. I have not played “I know but you don’t!” since about the third grad, and I am not about to start now. If you have suggestions, make them like an adult. I have accepted many, many corrections here and I have apologized here, but I will not respect grammar school games.

Until you have the basic respect to state an alternative, I will not use a masculine adjective to describe hysteria and fashionable giggling.

This is what Dave THINKS he said.

But I like it, so I am going to steal it:

BW has a rare luxury: He can know (as we know), actually know, that his position is destined for victory. Real outcomes are not something opportunists or manipulators can game.

Bill Buckely is a circus performer performing the role of official “intellectual”. His kind is endemic to affluent society and Ivy League environments. You know, you go to a party and there are these nitwits discussing “the issues of the day” under rules that you are not supposed to take offense.

But that is the nonsense of polite society. Meanwhile, politics is about people taking offense and that is why it regularly degenerates into bloody violence. But don’t tell your Congressman. He doesn’t want to think about it.

Comment by Dave

mderpelding says:

Wow, you actually want to be at fault for our present situation?
Who made you God?
I was born into a lower class Republican family.
You know, authority is allways right.
In the upper midwest.
It took me years to overcome the crap programmed into my head.
I still am trying desperately to think for myself.
FOR A CHANGE.
What has happened to us as a people ANYWHERE is not the failings of a few “enlightened”
individuals.
You don’t have a monopoly on bitterness, or regret.
Neither do I.
So wah for me, and wah for you.

Comment by mderpelding —

MY REPLY:

If you weren’t into Bob’s Blog, you couldn’t recognize this as a commenter’s version of a compliment. underpelding was presumably not in the recovery program, but he has common sense, which is the same thing. When you are in that position, you try desperately to save people.

If you are a sponsor and so forth and you trry desperately to keep people from falling back on drugs, and they destroy themselves anyway, you blame yourself.

At first.

Then someone points out to you that you are not the God you think you are. Get off the self-punishment, Bob. Not because it is good for you to get off the self-punishment, but because the self-punishment is, forgive me, Joe, SILLY.

mderpelding says that me and Joe cannot bear responsibility for what happened.

But if I had nothing to add to this, it wouldn’t be Bob’s Blog. I am NOT saying that I take responsibility for THEIR failure, THEIR cowardice, THEIR pretenses. I am NOT saying that there is Great Responsbibility here that only a True Philosopher could Truly Understand. I AM saying that it is time that we called silly asses silly asses and went on.

Bless you miderpelding, but I am not inside the moral dilemna you are trying to free me from.

Someone needs to keep repeating silly and trying to be sophisticated because it is the truth. I do NOT feel guilty. I feel BORED. I feel that I have listened to this crap for fifty years, and I am TIRED of it. Your attempt to make me feel better is appreciated, but misdirected.

And the bottom line is that you are pushing the same line Joe is, the neoconservative line, the respectable conservative line. The silly people ant to talk about how i feel, they want to consult the dictionary, they want to talk about guilt complex and factual complexity as a philosophical concept.

I say they are silly asses who cover themselves with “sophistication.” I say that everybody who tries to deflect attention to Bob’s Guilt complexes or dictionary definitions is their ally.

We could get off the point by discussing whether you MEANT to do that.

I won’t do that. You are doing something bad. Joe is doing something bad.

Back to the reality we are dealing iwth.

I want to thank Dennis for what he said. Joe would never admit it, but he is grateful too:

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This may not be much, and not really on topic, but this comments section is here, and I’m going to use it.

This following quite means a lot to a Gen X’er (or am I a Gen Y?) like me..

>Joe and Budarick and I are not the jolly old Santa Claus types who sold out everything you young >people SHOULD have inherited from us. We are hurt and bitter and vicious about the fact that you >got
>sold out. We tried so desperately hard decade after decade to sound the alarm.

You may not be aware of the disgust and dismay I had, watching the baby boomers and their ilk, revel in what they had, get lost in pointless nostalgia, and leave for us the bill for their lifestyle. I can tell you, that some of us, those in my generation who understand, feel robbed by the ones before us and much of my politics comes as a rebellion against the baby boomers/WWII generation and counter culture ‘revolutionaries’.

But it is good to hear people like you admit this and genuinely feel bitter that your peers couldn’t leave a better future behind, it does mean a lot, a lot more than you may think, because you really are in a minority, a very, very small minority. A minority so small, I’ve yet to meet anyone in person who would even begin to THINK like that.

I certaintly have learned from that mistake, and will under no way allow myself to do anything which will give my children a more uncertain future.

Comment by Dennis

It is SO good to have one of the people I fought for acknowledge me.

When I was in my teens, I kept demanding conisederation of “future generations.” All of the peole I was talking to, from Catholic priests to liberals to Objectivists, kept explaining to me that these “future generations” didn’t matter. The priests, in which category I include the preachers the way Jefferson did, told me that Jesus only meant “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” to apply to the PRESENT generation.

I could not explain to them that none of us were in Jesus’s PRESENT generation, so there was something wrong with that argument.

That was in my teens. My teens ended in 1961. So if you were born after March 31, 1061 you are one of those mythical and completely unimportant “future generations” that no decent “Christian” gave a fig about.

At the University of Virginia, a Public Choice expert explained to us why it was absurd to be concerned about “future generations.” He said, “What is a representative of these ‘future generations’ could talk to you? What if he came back inhis ghostly garb and tried to make a DEAL with you? What could he OFFER you? NOTHING! So why would you be concerned with him?”

From Buckley to Marx, their only concern was that a Mexican NOW was real, whereas future generations — you — was something mythical.

This is something for the birds. Literally.

If a bird was logical he wouldn’t spend all that time mating and feeding chicks and defending chicks with his or her life. What does he get OUT of it? Nothing. A lot LESS than nothing.

Why should a bird spend most of tis one precious lifetime assuring that birds who look like him or her populate the earth long after he or she has ceased to exist? This is how every sociopath reasons. But in my day, thiis was not the basis of being a sociopath. This was and is the basis of being a CHRISTIAN or a conservative or a libertarian or anything else.

This is MORALITY!?

Joe could desribe this as a disagreement between me and them. He could pull out his Lexicon and find forty-two good solid synonyms for “disagreement.”

I do not regard this as a disagreement. It is a DISCONNECT. Mortality is NOT how you bargain with people. Morality first of all applies to people who CANNOT bargain with you. Above all, morality concerns the future you leave to people who are not born yet.

Dealing with people who can hurt you is not MORALITY unless you are a sociopath.

Two plus two is four.

No synonyms.

I care about future generations because I was BORN to care about future generations. I was born to care about MY future generations. A more sophisitcated person, a non-redneck, would be BEYOND such tribal basics. Everybody has told me that, and Joe is merely the latest.

Which is why the article by Rushton and Jensen was such a landmark, why Premise Checker and Elizabeth pronounced it as such. The leftists and respectable cosnervatives did not even bother to demand a lynch mob when it was published. LibAnon will tell you that the left is more than willing to accept its premise: Race is family.

Race is family is not nostalgia, it is MORALITY. That article states that a healthy person wants his own kind to survive and prosper. In fact, thought neither Rushton nor Jensen would be willing to listen to a redneck like me, they said that the race that took America would say, “We the people of the United States of America … and OUR posterity …” was the basis of all morality.

Power does not come from the barrel of a gun wielded by some black militant. Power comes from US. The only way to take power from us is to make us take any other idea seriously. Which is what Joe and George Will keep trying to do.

Before this SILLY — no apologies to Joe — generation came along, nobody but Lincoln-obsessed conservative would have taken a second to agree with this. A healthy mind would wonder why I have to belabor the obvious.

Dennis honors us, which we appreciate. But more important, he swears what he will never take this silliness-covered-by-sophistication seriously. He will be MORAL. He will listen to no preacher, no priest, no libertarian.

Joe will never admit it, but that is what the remnant of white moral beings on this planet live for. And Dennis is almost unique in not just bitching about he has been screwed, but in recognizing that there are a few of us mutations around who carried the truth on.

I don’t NEED somebody to see this. I have carried on alone. But it feels good to see that Dennis declares the truth. For every Dennis there are a hundred more who see it but don’t express it.

To me, THAT is a triumph of morality.