For the true revolutionary verbal attack is lightwork. He has important work to carry out. He expects to get his face slapped. Look how Bob verbally beats up on me and calls me everything but a White Man now and again. I don’t take it personally. In this game you can’t take things like that personally. There’s a job to do. The idea is to get it done.

Comment by joe rorke

ME:

You see how commenters treat me?

I work my butt off to insult Joe and his attitude is, “I don’t take it personally.”

This is frustrating work, but I persevere.

If I could spare the old S.O.B. I would say something NICE about him and he would have a coronary.

Bob..do you consider the southern culture a FAILED ideology?

Comment by Kelly

ME:

Back when National Review was still trying to get some Southern support, they published an article by a then-buddy of mine who started the Southern Partisan, for which I was a Senior Editor. The Article was called, “The Death of the Yankee Culture.”

That death went unannounced and unnoticed, but if you want to see the memory of it, you can look at Thurston P. Howell on “Gilligan’s Island.”

It was the rule of the Cabot Lodges and the Haahvahd people that was at its height under Coolidge. They are gone with the wind. In fact, there wasn’t even a wind.

The Old South itself was a stupid FAILURE. From the time Washington assumed office in in 1789, the Federal Government’s was entirely supported by tariffs. If you think that just meant New England got a free rise, you are being naive.

New England’s main profit from Our Glorious Union was not just that the South paid for the whole government, but that they got even more money because the South had to them more for THEIR products to avoid tariffs.

From the word go, we agreed to be New England’s colonies. Southerners kept refusing to take the ultimate step and seceded until Lincoln was lected and our colonial status was absolute.

We were crushed and we became outright Yankee colnies. Discriminatory railroad rates kept industry outo f the South and the South impoverished until they were finally abolished in — get this — 1951!

Until then it cost several times as much to send industrial products NORTH as to send them South!

Like the Death of the Yankee Culture, no one knows about this now.

As to what Southern Culture might be, it was New England that was the Bible Belt before the Civil War. The crushed, impoverished, defeated South went Old Testament AFTER the War.

The old Southern Culture WAS represented by outposts like New Orleans which WAS the only place in America where you could carry your mixed drink right down the street or on the bus with you. It was representd by the open bars in Charleston when the rest of the state had to obey a STATE-WIDE ban on mixed drinks.

We were WILD. At the South Carolina College, faculty was terrified of students who carried weapons.

But we were very, very polite. An armed society tends to be that way. In the first issue of the London Times in 1785, I read about a duel. It said both men acquitted themselves bravely and no one was hurt.

Southern duels almost always left somebody DEAD. As he fell dead, he would usually wound the other guy.

I am a Bible Belter AND an Old Southerner. So when you say “Southern culture” you are desribing several different things to me.

The South in the Union as one of the stupidest failures in human history.

But we’re still here.

The Yankees aren’t.

Super! Two great posts. Dave is truly coming along. Maybe he’ll be a mean old bastard like me someday. He’s definitely working on it and doing a good job.

Comment by joe rorke

ME:

Joe, I know you have a hard time handling compliments, but I am sure Dave will join me in saying he has a LONG way to go before he can become a nasty, vicious, bitter, disagreeable old S.O.B. like you are.

But with BOTH of us to advise him, he is off to a flying start.

Joe says:

Bob, My eyes are not what they used to be. I don’t have your tenacity. I don’t want to work too hard. I want to read what you have to say but I don’t want to have to struggle through it because of serious misspelling. When I write to you and to the members of this blog I will have the courtesy to not make you struggle to read what I have written. Courtesy. Someone mentioned it in another piece on this blog. It’s a wonderful characteristic.

I had no intention of picking on you or trying to make you look like a clown on your own blog. I consider myself a gentleman. Gentleman. That’s another word that may be going the way of all flesh in our land. It once meant something in our land to be referred to as a gentleman. Today, the news media refer to an armed robber as a “gentleman.”

“The gentleman entered the pharmacy brandishing a pistol and demanded drugs from the pharmacist.” Perverted language. That was no gentleman.

If the blog can be made a better place for everyone to visit I would think that anything that makes it better is a good thing.

Finally, I am what you might think of as an unusual mean old bastard. I am unconcerned about praise or condemnation. They are simply opposite ends of the same stick. That stick is not in my life. It makes life a lot easier.

Comment by joe rorke

ME:

As I said, your criticism was perfectly timed. Please notice I am checking my spelling far better now.

If you will look at my discussions of you as a mean old bastard, I very often use the pronoun “We.”

We are considered mean old bastards because we have never adapted to the follow-orders refusal to object to things the way the group that calls itself The Greatest Generation did.

I wrote a piece lately about how it really distracted me when somebody said that I had somehow insulted them or put them down when what I did was criticize people their comment reminded me of. I can call you a mean old bastard and go on with my point.

Just stay as sweet as you are.

We have Shari and Elizabeth for our sugar, so a couple of sour old geezers like you and me are needed to balance out the flavor.

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Bob, what ever became of your weekly (or daily) Stormfront radio show? I miss them. I am not able to keep up with this blog as much as I would like and enjoyed listened to your wisdome, er, knowledge. Please begin again.

Comment by joe odin

ME:

Thanks for your interest.

What happened was that I did the shows and then went to Stormfront Radio to answer comments. All the comments were the same that would have been there if I had never been born: the latest on Iraq; the inside story about JEWS; why Bush is a nasty man.

Doing programs is WORK. I don’t get paid for it. The only thing that keeps me going is getting my message across.

I keep repeating Bob’s Mantra. Nobody uses it.

NOBODY uses Bob’s Mantra, though I KEEP demonstrating how devastating it is.

I love it when somebody gives me an exception to this.

Sometimes somebody says they did use part of Bob’s Manra in passing. I thank the Lord for small favors. But the fact is that there are hundreds of Newsgroups, and I keep begging people to simply copy and paste Bob’s Mantra into them.

The few people who raise their limp wrists to copy and paste my stuff are right here on Bob’s Blog.

You do very little, but you do SOMETHING.

Why don’t I do programs for Stormfront any more? Why would I have to explain that to YOU? You know how HOPELESS Stormfront is.

Dr. Duke makes his living this way. I HAVE my living. MY only incentive is getting my message across.

Make it worth my while and I’ll work my tail off for you.

But why would a sane Bob Whitaker do any more programs for Stormfront?

Shari just sent me a comment:

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I hesitate to reply for a couple of reasons. One is that this is Bob’s blog and this is a side issue, and the other is that I’m not wanting my own argument. So, I will say that I think that anyone should read what ever they want. I’m not superstitious. Having said that, I also think you should also consider who you are reading and what point they are really trying to make. Not to do that, will not help to hammer out what you really DO think, but just leave you reacting to what bothers you.

Comment by Shari

ME:

The moment I saw “I hesitate to reply…” from Shari, I got ready to give her hell, as usual, for being apologetic about what she was about to say. Regular readers will remember that it upsets me when someone like Shari, whom I have long since approved as a regular member of our seminar, apologizes for saying what she says.

But in this case, she was right.

Ole Bob reads with his lips moving, so he often misses the context. That is what I keep lecturing YOU about.

Please keep in mind that a major reason I feel free to point out YOUR mistakes is because I have already made them many times before most of you were born.

There is no reason for you to suffer for boners I have already paid for, so my bumblings can be of use to you.

This time, the reason Shari said “I hesitate to reply …” was because she and Mark were having a debate between themselves. She said she hesitated to keep this debate up.

Shari is right. Her statement prodded me into going into the whole subject of commenter crosstalk.

We need to address this whole question of commenter crosstalk. Shari has made mistake. A productive mistake.

Which also why she is a full member of this seminar. being willing to risk screwups are part of your tuition.

Let me explain to Shari and Mark how they screwed up:

Your comments are required reading for this seminar. That puts a reponsibility on YOU.

Mark made a set of comments I thought were pretty good, and Shari accused him of being a disciple of some writer. Then they got into a dispute over prayer.

Shari was right to apologize for this crap, and Mark shouldn’t have gotten into it HERE either.

Please note that HERE is in caps.

I put words in caps for a reason.

I try hard to interest my readers, but I honestly cannot give you a clear explanation of why people read this Blog. But they sure as hell don’t read it to watch a debate over some dumbass writer or the Power of Prayer.

ON THE OTHER HAND (Did you notice the caps?) I would LOVE it if crosstalk here develeoped into topics RELEVANT to the reason people READ the Blog.

Ole Bob will not be here forever, and this whole effort will be pointless if I don’t leave behind people who can go from my basics into talking to each other about how to go ON from those basics.

When I am gone, all I will leave behind is YOUR crosstalk. When YOUR crosstalk is crap, all my effort is crap.

Crosstalk that goes into the usual gutter shows me I am making no impression at all.

Let me suggest some crosstalk I WANT to see:

What IS Wordism? All I hear is people labeling anything they don’t like as wordism. They are back in their own ruts using my words. If all you can do with Wordism is make it a nice erm for what you would have said anyway, all my effort is wasted.

As Shari says, this IS Bob’s Blog. That does NOT mean that this is Bob’s PROPERTY, it means we are a group of people who believe that there is something to Bob’s Basics that is worth expanding on. What we have in common is not Bob the Demigod, but Bob who is worth reading because readers think he is saying something worthwhile.

Something worth TALKING about. A good STARTING pointI keep trying to expand on my own basics, which would be enough if this were just a course on Whitaker’s Words of Wisdom.

But this is a SEMINAR.

I am giving you basics. I am giving you a way of thinking. I am passing you the ball. You are not supposed to be some kind of Marxist who catches the ball and spends the rest of his life saying, “Gosh, this is the Ultimate Ball! What a Great Man the quarterback is!”

If I am a Great Man, it is because I finallly learned how to move the ball nearer our goals.

Go thou and do likewise. How can you use what readers find interesting to provide MORE discussion readers find interesting, WITHOUT all roads leading back to Bob the Ultimate Authority?

I am begging you to write for the OTHER readers of Bob’s Blog.

Not about the Power of Prayer. Not about some other writer you happen to know about.

Write for THIS AUDIENCE.

If I am writing BASICS as I keep insisting that I am, it means that you can use those basics, expand on those basics, correct those basics.

Try to imagine, after all this effort and all the very real progress we are making, how it makes ME feel when you suddenly start arguing with each other about subjects you would be talking about if I had never been born.

There should be a LOT of crosstalk here, GOOD crosstalk.

Give me some!

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There are very few truly talented people in the world. Because of this, they are tremendously influential. Bob Whitaker is one these people.

His books are few and thin, a great sign in an intellectual. ”

ME:

Good Lord, what a brilliant observation!

Eric Hoffer once mused,

“So many people write short books that are ful of brilliance. When those are successful, they then write bigger books going into the subject more, and those books are boring and useless.”

I made my best money writing long books for others. But you catch me flatfooted when you observe that my four books in my OWN name were short. In fact, I had to put in extra stuff at the insistence of the publishers.

Mark Twain’s first very successful book was “Innocents Abroad.” Back then a book had to sell for the high price of one dollar, so it had to be THICK. Twain kept on adding to it to get it to the required length.

So in the end, when someone asked him what “Innocents Abroad” consisted of, he replie,

“It’s kind of like the Planet Earth. There are a few good parts and a lot of desert, but most of it is water.”

It like this blog better.

It consists of some good, solid ground and something good land needs:

Plenty of manure.

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Looking back on what i’ve wrote, i’m amazingly hard on the average SF member. I’m frustrated because i believe they should know better.

Ive found StormFront to be very similar to FreeRepublic and Democratic Underground, being that it is an echo chamber. If i want the standard white nationalist line on an event, i’ll be sure to log on. The membership upsets me when they don’t take a word you say seriously. Just a “good job, Bob” or “right on” to what ever you post from the blog.

If they took you seriously, they should fear the entire sub-forum devoted to an ideology. It will one day gain acceptance and, like all wordism, purge a faction.

If they took you seriously, they would realize not everything is the Jews fault. You’ve explained that over and over, they are people! People who cant see past their hooked noses. By all means, i am not a friend of the jew. i include this for all those who say i mean to deflect attention from them.

If they took you seriously, they would put what you say to action like we do in this seminar, and stop chasing windmills. “Gibson said what? we must defend him. direct all efforts to Lebanon and Gibson.” Whats happening to us is GENOCIDE, it doesnt seem like that has sunk in yet. They still want to play “name the Jew”.

You say that those obsesed with toilet humor have the mental age of a 6 year old, the repectables have a mental age of a 10 year old, i believe. I propose that the average StormFronter has the mental age of a 14 year old. Old enough to be rebellious. Old enough to know right from wrong. But too young to do anything about it, the “world is just too scary”. So they it in their own little group, pointing and laughing at those outside it.

Bob, you have given us a great mantra. Besides you, DOES ANYONE AT SF USE IT? The anti-racist is an amazingly weak opponent, you show that every time you arrive in a thread in opposing views.

I would like to hope that these people actually think and haven’t traded an official version of wordism for an unofficial white nationalist wordism. I don’t understand why you scream at a brick wall. Your time is important. Your efforts are better spent here, at the blog. After all, your commenters have made progress.

Comment by Brian

ME:

Like most humans, the first thing I notice here is what Brian says about ME.

After all my raving about being hard on people I like, people would think what Brain said would be too “sweet.”
Brian knows me better than that.

There is not a word of “sweetness,” a.k.a., flattery, in this.

Every good word Brian says here is an expression I EARNED. But Brian doesn’t just give me credit, he USES tthe kind of thinking he learned from me. He APPLIES it to his comments on Stormfront.

Let me admit once again to being human. Three comments have already come in giving me credit. Us humans who work hard NEED credit. Management very often fails precisely because they do not give credit.

No, Brian, they do NOT use Bob’s Mantra. But YOU will. Dave will. Peter will.

A man can take over the whole white race’s future and tower over history if he gets twelve disciples, even if one of them is a Judas.

Joe says that my failure to correct my spelling shows a contempt for my readers.

Joe is a mean old bastard, but he is a mean old bastard with a feel for reality.

Yes, I didn’t bother to correct my spelling, and it DID show a contempt for MANY of my readers.

I got so desperately TIRED of having to make the same points over and over and over and over and over and then getting replies that completely ignore the points I make over and over and over and over. When I make the same point for the dozenth time, I don’t want to read it over again and correct the spelling.

I was SICK of it!

But Joe made me realize something critical. The only person who can deliver a kick in the ass to a mean old bastard at the right time is another old mean old bastard.

Just after I wrote the above “I was SICK of it!”, I went back to find some examples of what I was sick of. But I found that ALL the comments I have received lately are exactly the ones I keep asking for.

For example, I went exuberantly ballistic at Tim’s hitting dead on target. Dave gave me encouragement. The rest of you were on target.

As Joe says, it’s time I realized this.

After YEARS of reading Old Testament quotes and detailed agreements and disagreements, I am FINALLY getting dead on target participation in this seminar.

Joe’s criticism came in at just the right time.

I am not about to knock myself correcting my spelling and grammar on Stormfront. On Stormfront I just wrote a piece that was hard work explaining to a Jew about why we don’t trust Jews who try to have the right opinion.

Most of the responses consisted of the usual canned crap about how Jews are a tribe or religion or a nation or a brand of rock candy.

But Bob’s Blog commenters are coming around, and, as Joe says, it is about time I treated you with more respect.

Tim has a LONG quote in the comments section under “But Dave, Nobody Wants to Rule the World Any More.”

But Tim put that long quotation in AFTER explaining, in his OWN time, what it was about and how it fits in here. Tim understands what the rules on quotes here are.

Let me repeat, if you don’t read the comments, you are not reading Bob’s Blog. I approve each one. You will see “Comments (4)” at the bottom of “But, Dave, Nobody Wants to Rule the World Any More.” You click on Comments (4) and you read the comments.

That is REQUIRED reading for this seminar.

Then, having read the give and take here, you see examples of the best and the worst.

The WORST is a quote from the Old Testament with no explanation. The BEST is a piece that relates everything to what is being raught in this seminar, or, even better, an expansion on it, as mderpelding is particularly good at.

This very long quote from Tim falls into the latter category.

There is a PROCESS going on where some Jews are having to try to find some way to face their own stupidity and still say they are Shrewd. There is a PROCESS going on where respectable conservatives like Buchanan are trying to wiggle out of saying what everybody is beginning to realize about race.

If you read Bob’s Blog, and you don’t just decide whether you agree or disagree with Bob, you will profit from Tim’s comment. If you don’t understand our Blog way of thinking, your mind will wander off into the “agree/disagree” crap and you will have no idea of the PROCESS Tim is using this long quotation to illustrate and expand on.

You’d think the guy would have the decency to at least spell his words correctly so that people wouldn’t have to figure out what the hell he’s saying. But you would be wrong. He doesn’t even think about spelling his words correctly so that you don’t have to figure out what he’s trying to say. This is a basic contempt for the reader. What else can it be?

Comment by joe rorke

ME:

Joe, please do not refer to me in the third person.

I work very hard here to earn your abuse, and you owe it to me to give me PERSONAL credit for pissing you off.

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Hello Bob,

I have come to join your seminar. I take it the above must be written before commenting. Is one enough for the system?

Your ruling the world would be most splendid. For all concerned.

- Papillon

Comment by Papillon

ME:

Welcome aboard!

We’ll see if you qualify, but youa remore than welcome anyway. This seminar is for people who have outgrown their college education whether they had one or not.

I charge zero tuition, but for your benefit I provide you with a student loan to cover it.

You cannot feel that you have had a truly University Experience these days unless you have to carry around a debt for a student loan for the rest of your life, even if it’s just a theoretical one.