Archive for September 5th, 2006
Sounds like you were working your tail off. I was just concerned. That is all. I did not understand what you meant. All clear. I totally understand.
Comment by Tim
Loud and clear.
I want you to make comments like that, TELLING ME I sound like some Washington gobbledeegook to you. If it sounds that way to you, it sounds that way to others, and I need a chance to explain it. If you worry about my reaction, I don’t get the feedback I need.
I am searching for another comment I received about referring to Google.
One problem with repeating basics is that it sounds like I am saying, “Well, you clown, all you have to do is …”
You will notice Joe has no problem with this. When you get our age you are very used to forgetting basics. Look, gang, if you were not a part of the VERY few who understand the basics, we wouldn’t need to BE here.
I get these terse little messages about how I’m misspelling things or I got a fact wrong. The people who do this are generally outsiders who do not understand this is not Mommy Professor territory and if I say something wrong, you will simply correct me. That is absolutely ALIEN thinking outside this Blog.
Just repeating the basics can sound like I’m being peevish. Telling someone the same thing again normally sounds crabby. But let us remember what we are doing here versus what Mommy Professor does. If you are in Mommy Professor territory you take down what M.P. says and then you vomit it up at the next exam.
Then you forget it.
We are like Isaac Newton. We are hammering at basics, building on basics. Newton kept reminding people that things fall and water runs downhill. And he never took his eyes off that basic. He was not trying to dazzle them with his footwork.
I remind you over and over and over that water runs downhill and things fall. This can easily sound crabby.
It doesn’t matter HOW I sound. I appreciate your respect for my opinion, but the simple fact is that I appreciate my regular commenters more than I can express. Let me just go ahead and say things and you get what you can out of it. If you don’t get something, say so.
If it confuses you, it confuses others. Every single thing I get from you makes me hone what I am saying. If it sounds peevish, it is because I am concentrating hard on what I am trying to say.
If I sound peevish, let me know. But that is not the point. The point is what YOU are getting out of it, how YOU will expand on the basics I keep repeating, how ***I*** am contradicting my own basics.
We are leaving Mommy Professor far, far behind.
Ain’t it GREAT!?
Let me respond to something somebody is likely to come up with:
“But, Bob, if everything is so transparent in the movement, why did YOU say you had to keep it SECRET in your blog entry from DC?”
Because I am an advisor. I think I am one of the best, but I can say without fear that I am a pro.
I told Kelso to go public instantly. But if someone asks you to advise them, what they tell you is between you and them until THEY give you permission to go public. As an advisor, no matter how ridiculous I consider it that someone is keeping something secret, it is HIS call, not MINE.
Even if hte whole world already knows it, I STILL can’t say HE told me this.
If someone said to me, “In my opinion, the sky is blue” while they were asking me for advice, and asked me not to tell others that they said that, you would have to use torture to get it out of me.
This is very frustrating, because I have often told people, as I kept telling Kelso, that he needed to get it out immediately. But as an advisor, no matter how frustrating it is, that conversation stays between him and me until he says differently.
Most secrets are a mistake. While you are agonizingly over what to say, the other side is telling the story ITS way.
But as an advisor, this is NEVER my call.
Willis said Kelso was “an agent.”
In Communist Russia, any opposition was called “fascist.”
In Fascist Italy any opposition was called “Communist.”
In Politically Correct America, all opposition is crushed as “HATE!”
In our movement, anyone one does like is called “an agent.”
What strikes me as particularly funny is that, of all the people who use that word so much, I am the only one who actually WAS an “agent.” Which is what makes the whole thing so hilarious to me.
For YEARS. At every clearance I had to explain once again that I was part and parcel of the pro-white movement and madeno bones about it. In fact, their problem was that I might be an agent FOR US.
I never betrayed any of them and I never backed down from my total devotion to the pro-whites. The Feds needed me against the Communists. That’s what I did.
So when I hear this “agent” crap, I get this picture in my mind. A top operative walks into the office of the FBI and says, “We are going to send this AGENT to pay $150 to attend this Free Press Conference.”
The Director of the FBI then replies, “Brilliant! Now we will find out what is going on there!”
Actually, the operative who made the proposal would be put on psychiatric leave.
There is absolutely nothing in our movement today that a reasonably competent detective agency couldn’t long since have found out.
I told Willis, “If Kelso is an agent of the enemy, it’s the best thing the enemy could have done for us.”
Apparently, as a commenter guessed, all this apparently came from an incident where Kelso did make an enemy of a psychopath a year or two ago. This psychopath poisoned the minds of older leaders against Kelso.
Now THAT is the kind of work a ADL or government real agent might do. But why should they bother?
I never tell ANYBODY anything “an agent” could use. My problem is things OUR people DISTORT. My problem is the people who smile at you and praise you to your face and then tell each other how bad you are.
My problem is that Carto will hear that I called him a psychopath in an article dedicated to the propostiion that I am very much like him and that we are NOT psychopaths.
Our problem is nasty little people doing nasty little things. And the code word for this is “an agent.” No any discussion is required as to WHOSE agent and WHAT they are there for.
Or any evidence except “five or six people,” unnamed.
The enemy’s best friends are already in our movement. Our worst enemies inside the movement have no contact with the enemy. In fact, it would be a ridiculous waste of resources for the enemy to pay someone to do what we do for them free charge.
Maybe Kelso can explain scientology to me. I researched it more than once, but couldn’t understand what it was about.
Comment by Al Parker — 9/5/2006 @ 5:55 pm | Edit This
Wow, I’m glad I bothered to do the search. I hope im getting this right, but I never would have made the connection that Jamie Kelso is the same as the one in “what really happened to the class of 65″.
Comment by Red
I answered these with, “I hope you’re joking.”
Then it occurred to me that Jamie did, in fact, go through a scientology phase. I didn’t know he published in that period. I don’t know. I don’t much care.
None of this was at the front of my consciousness when critical issues were at stake.
As for explaining scientology, Jamie said he found it was just a fraud.
Like me, he went through many phases.
But if anybody wants to, they can see why I went with Jamie to this and other conferences.
Someone asked me who Kelso was.
This is a bit harder to Google! than Willis Carto, who has been in this game longer than even I have and fills the pages.
The trick is you have to put “Jamie Kelso” into Google! rather than “James Kelso in order to get the formidable list of hate (Anti-Hate) pieces directed at him from them and from our side.
I was proud to note that MY name came first in some of them. Fox reported that Bob Whitaker and Jamie Kelso were the exceptions to the people who would not talk to them, for instance.
Also, are you calling Willis a psychopath since he is in charge of this affair?
Comment by Mark —
I am SURE that is the way it will get back to Willis.
The article was ENTITLED “Old Fighters versus the Psychopaths.” I talked ENTIRELY about how Willis made this mistake beause he is NOT a psychopath.
So you ask me if I am calling Willis AND MYSELF psychopaths.
This is the way these fights get going. You did a good thing here. You made me change the title to make the whole thing absolutely, crystal clear. But it will still get back to Willis that I called him a psychopath.
Bob I forgot you covered that in one of your radio lecture/porch talk lessons…I’ll go back to what I thought (but forgot) as I do sometimes
Comment by Kelly
As I said below, us old warriors get mean. So I called Kelly’s excuse for the WWII Generation “BULLSHIT.”
But my commenters are getting used to me. A year or two ago somebody would have been personally hurt if I had said that. Kelly takes it in stride. I am not aiming this at HIM. I am aiming it at all those others who keep coming back at me about how I am insulting their Beloved Grandaddy Earl who was in World War II.
Did Kelly make some monstrous mistake here?
Of course not.
Here is my reply to his comment above:
“Kelly, it would be nice if you remembered every single golden word that falls from my keyboard, but it ain’t gonna happen. Trying to remember all I write would be like trying to swallow Niagara Falls without a bathroom break.”
“If you get the basics and build on them that is more than enough for me.”
Whoever this Willis is…..he’s definitely my kind of guy, Bob.
Comment by joe rorke
I just Googled “Willis Carto” and the first page and a half of the list of sites are dedicated to the this same Willis Carto. You don’t get lost in a bunch of OTHER names like you do with “Bob Whitaker.”
It is not the Jews we need to take our country back from. The Jews have simply used the ammunition dumps they had already been provided BEFORE most of them got here.
If we are to take America back, we must take it back from Abraham Lincoln. Ithe was he who declared that our country is based UPON THE PROPOSITION that all men are created equal. This is as alien to our Constitution as any Marxist Russian Jew. That is the declaration of the melting pot.
George Will says this perfectly. He says, “Other countries like Germany and France are based on a population, based on Frenchmen and Germans. America is based on a proposition: YOU ACCEPT THE PROPOSITION AND YOU ARE AN AMERICAN.”
I will not say, “in other words” because there are no other words. What Will is saying that anyone on earth who agrees with him is more of an American, has more right to BE here, than those of us whose families have been here for three to four hundred years.
The Constitution of the United States could not have said anything more opposite. Its only basis of power is “We the people of hte United States of America and OUR posterity.” The only REASON for the existence of America is secure the blessings of liberty “for ourselves and our posterity.”
As Secretary of State John Quicey Adams put it, “We are the friends of liberty everywhere, but the guardians only of our own.”
For this entire century every war from World War I to Iraq has been fought on the premise that our only mission to is to protect foreigners. We left our borders open and fought to save Stalin. We leave our borders open and go our to fight for Israel. This has been going on since Lincoln took citizenship away from the people of the United States ofd America and our posterity.
Almost every monomaniacal anti-semite I know agrees with Lincoln. He just says Lincoln had the wrong proposition. He says America is based on the CHRISTIAN proposition, not the JEWISH proposition. He may say that America is based on a “freedom proposition” or a capitalist proposition. Lincoln and the Jews are just unAmerican because the only right we have to be here is based on a DIFFERENT proposition.
This is the very embodiment of the Big Lie. It is a lie so gigantic and so basic that everybody assents to it.
I told you below that there were lessons in the Kelso-Carto situation you needed to think about. Here’s the first:
Willis apparently did something inexcuable in this case. I have done things I cannot forgive myself for. I can easily say that. Willis has a huge number of people who depend on him and he may not be able to apologize, and certainly he cannot apologize as easily as I can.
But Willis and I are in a category it is very hard for anybody who has not been in this battle as long and as hard as we have to undersand something that is, as usual in our Blog here, so simple as to be overlooked in the heat of a fight.
The reason that psychopaths rule our society is that no one suuposed to say a single wrong word. I keep coming back to the fact that Ted Bundy was able to give a great, big, broad, sincerity-right-out-of-the-can grin when his picture was taken.
In a society where anything you said wrong twenty years against you and is on record, people like me and Willis are at a hopeless disadvantage against the psychopaths.
We say the wrong thing. We blow our tops. We are cruel. Psychopaths like Bill Clinton and Ted Bundy and respectable conservatives are smooth as glass all the way through.
I have seen many movies where a person with a big-caliber rifle would shoot somebody and the person they shoot is lifted off his feet by the blast and thrown several feet backwards while the person who fired the weapon just stands there.
This is physically impossible but it doesn’t matter. It looks good and it’s entertainment.
But in the real world the power transferred by a bullet in one direction is entirely marched by the kick the person firing the gun gets hit with. If a last knocked the person being shot ten feet backward, the person doing the firing would be knocked backwards too.
Human dynamics work the same way. When you send a Willis Carto or a Bob Whitaker out there to shoot it out with the other side, he doesn’t come back smooth, with every hair in place and all the gentleness we have come to expectf from the Bill Clintons and the Ted Bundys and the respectable cosnervatives.
Willis is often mean and inexcusably cruel and even, as in this case, just plain cowardly.
Get used to it or resign yourself to rule by psychopaths.
“I spent an adrenelin-soaked week in the middle of intrigues I can’t talk about.”
Every once in a while you say something like that at it ANGERS ME. If you are going to post something like that. You should at least post that it was something good for OUR RACE. We both know there are plenty of ways for you to do this without being too descriptive. If it was just Washington BS…..please do not post it. It is too much intrigue for us young ones to handle. We do NOT know what the hell you mean (or if you are in trouble or something??). Of course you know that…..So why bother?
I assume you are always doing something for OUR race. Because that is what your record states. However, you post stuff like this and leaves people like me in limbo. I expect more than ‘limbo’ from you.
Comment by Tim
This was definitely about our race.
Kelso got a number of young people to the AFP Conference and Willis Cartp was very buddy-buddy with him. Then suddenly Kelso walked up to Willis and Willis said to him, in public, “Kelso, why are you a ringer? Five or second people have told me you are an agent. Get out of here.”
Then Willis signalled a gurad and Kelso was ushered out.
Kelso was stunned and crushed. He has only been inthis movement four or five years, and he did not know Willis’s tendency to do things that are, at the very least, rash. He staggered up to the room we were in and honestly felt that if a patriarch had denounced him as a spy, he was ruined.
Like anyone hwo works in this totally thankless movement, Kelso was already taking the straing of doing things for people, working day and night and breaking himself fiancially, and getting kicked in the teeth for it.
He thanked God I was there later on. He owuld have been staggering out inthe rain if I hadn’t.
His thousands of hours of selfles work and he thought he was FINISHED! How can you deny you are a SPY, especially when no evidence at all is produced?!
So I spent hours talking him off the ceiling,a nd that is not easy work when someone has an emotional crisis like this.
Then Kelso was worried about hitting back at someone of Carto’s stature, since he is a comparative newbie. He had difficulty listening to me, and he had to get over his emotional trauma first. That took many hours into the night.
He began to get back on his feet after I pushed him the next morning, but he STILL could not decide whether to hit back directly or not. I explained to him over and over and over that damage control starts RIGHT NOW. As soon as I had talked him around, he went downstairs and started saying, as I told him, that even if he might be a spy, Willis had no right to buddy up to him and then spring this on him in public at Willis’s own conference.
If we had not worked this out, he might have either left or come back swinging irrationally. This is the kind of thing I’ve done for decades, meeting crises and setting up a quick response, but it is NOT easy.
I was in no shape to write what happened here in the blog. There are some critical lessons in it I need to talk to you about. Kelso kept saying I could and then I couldn’t. I said he should have it on Stormfront the next day. But at least he did go down and face the delegates, many of whom had heard he had been denounced. Almost all of them were on his side after he talked to them.
The police incident had nothing to do with any of this, but I wsas exhaursted and I wanted to write something in the blog. I wrote what you are complaining about and Kelso cleared THAT.
I was WEARY. And I am WEARY of a life of playing Secret Squirrel, and THAT I needed to share with you. Even I, who gets vented TO so often, need to vent some, too. And at that pint, I took it that I could say this to my Blog friends.
I am sorry you took it personally.
I was under obligation to the person who came to me for advice. This is in confidence, that’s part of being an advisor. Which also means I carry a lot of pressure and can’t tell people WHY.
I got his permission to tell you about this on the way back down down here, one day yes, one day no, b ut I finally got it. There is much I need to talk about that this incident illustrates, but I just got out of hte car from DC and I am not up to it right now and I am not even going to check my spelling before I hit the sheets.
I may have saved Kelso for our movement. I think that’s a pretty good thing for an old man to do for our race in one weekend, and I am an emotional wreck.