Archive for November 1st, 2006
Bob: since you may not want to draw too much attention to a single individual, please feel free to reply with another comment.
I was answering replies. I noticed that replies maybe more likely with outrageous headings, such as “Soon we shall send all the Mestizos home” in a Liberal newsgroup.
I answered with the Heresy boilerplate, but I felt a pull to preface it with a comment using his own line of thinking in his cliché reply.
Here’s how it went:
> Paine wrote:
>> They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
>> Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
> So here it is. The races are locked in opposition to each other, and if
> I do not believe it is so, then I am against the white race — I’m a
> race traitor! We are therefore all hyphenated humans — not one species
> but umpteen different races.
> Here is why this is obscene and dehumanising. We can’t be human because
> being white or black or Asian or whatever takes precedence and
> alienates us from all other races. Instead of being able to appreciate
> or at least understand each other, we must put all our effort into
> creating and emphasising difference.
> The only possible states we can live in therefore are constant conflict
> ending in “them” killing all of “us” or vice versa, or some sort of
> ghettoised isolation.
> That’s all crap. We can decide to make a big deal out of race and
> culture, and we can voluntarily make the value judgements that ‘they’
> are inferior. Or we can all decide to be human and get over our own
Spoken like a true robot! Your religion demands that you hate your fellow man and so you do. This religion cannot allow men to unite in families and by nature for then the people would have the power to throw off that religion’s shackles.
So instead you are left as a lone ego.
You will stand with no one.
No one will stand with you.
You have been dehumanized by a religion that hates you. Look within you and find your long lost nature. Look within you and find your humanity. Look within you and be a man.
Or continue being a robot fighting with every other robot for a job promotion… fighting with every other robot to keep from being fired… fighting with every other robot for your child, your “property” to get a grade he/she/it (robots have no race or gender) does not deserve… fighting with every other robot in traffic to get home before 10:00 pm.
“Obscene and dehumanizing” is vapid name-calling. It is the desperate cry of a religious robot trying to maintain his religion’s orthodoxy of hate.
By name-calling, you are calling every MAN (”human” is an abstraction good only for robots) a “heretic.”
Each society has its own word for HERESY!
Communists called all HERESY! Fascist. Fascist Italy called all HERESY Communist.
Today, under the Politically Correct tyranny, HERESY! is called HATE! or “racism.” Nobody wants to try to deal with a point such as that anti-racism means white genocide, so they start demanding that nobody say it, just like any other tyranny does. They call people who speak HERESY! names.
You Political Correctness fanatics are playing a very old game.
When you call people names who disagree with you or scream Hate or racism, a.k.a., HERESY! it says nothing about the point we heretics make.
But it tells us ALL about YOU.
Comment by Pain — 11/1/2006 @ 3:18 pm | Edit This
I should add that there are as many positive replies as well. I make sure I tell them I thought well of their statements.
Comment by Pain
After all the above work-related genius, Pain asked ME if he should use the proposed Norwegian Mantra.
Dammit, Pain, do what you are doing!
The LAST thing Mark wanted to do was to keep you from drawing attention to what WORKS. Give the man CREDIT! He had some points Bob should have paid attention to so he bit me on the ass.
As to your getting too much credit, nobody would be more ecstatic than Mark if you took over the world.
Except maybe me.
Just keep on the attack. We are working on some stuff we found out about Europeans. Bob is not ABOUT to tell you how to use it. You are fighting the fight and doing a great job of it, and don’t tell me or Mark you don’t know it. Even I am not that dumb and Mark sure as hell isn’t.
Sic the bastards, and we are beyond the point where I need my ego massaged by your asking me HOW. Do what you are doing.
The seminar can offer you very useful, practical stuff only WE know how to use. But the torch has been PASSED. You are IT now.
I, being the dullest knife of the drawer in this seminar, would be more than willing to put it though the idiot test. That is, if you wouldn’t mind.
Comment by Kevin —
You are putting ME down. I don’t let dumb people in here.
But I sent Kevin the manuscript without even running it through the spellchecker first.
I am SO grateful!
Which, of course, doesn’t mean I treated Kevin pleasantly. The title was, “Manuscript. Lots of Misspellings. Screw Them, Chief Dull Knife.”
If I got nice, Kevin wouldn’t believe it was me.
Dammit, could anybody PLEASE read my book manuscript for me?
The fact that people don’t hear the exact words “race problem” doesn’t keep them from understanding exactly what it means. Let me repeat, the British National Party uses the Mantra all the time, and they are in Europe, too.
There simply weren’t any nonwhites to speak of in Europe until recently. Blacks have been here since 1619. So when we refer to “a race problem” it is an ongoing matter that has been normal in our discussions for centuries.
But that doesn’t mean a reasonably intelligent person can’t understand what the term means. I suspect this because here respectqable conservative routinely tell each other on discussion programs that “intermarriage isthe solution to the rce problem” and then, when we bring it up, they say, “DUHH! Me never heard such a thing!”
I cannot imagine a European who is able to write his name not understanding what the term MEANS. He using a variant on the “DUHH!” tactic: “Me never heard anybody SAY those worfds.”
So we are not retranslating the wordking to make an honst person understand it. We are putting in a way where they cannot deny they have SAID that. With an American I just call it “The DUHH! Tactic and it works. EVERYBODY here has heard “the solution to the RACE problem” in those exact words.
In Europe others will chime in and say they never heard “solving the race problem” either.
Adelheim’s wording is probably necessaary. By the way, Adelheim, I did not say you needed to translate it just into Norwegian. You need to translate it so that Europeans cannot DENY they know what you are saying.
That is why we need tenestre and Budarick and others in that environment to chime in here.
None of this is EASY work.
As you might remember I talked about translating the mantra into Norwegian.
The problem is, however, that we do not use the term “race-problem” in Norway.
So I was thinking about in what way we put it. I realized that we use the american term melting pot (”smeltedigel” in norwegian.). It is not precisely the same but it might work. It is not used a lot I think, but everybody knows what it means. So I tried to use that term instead.
This is only a first draft but this text can be more or less directly translated into Norwegian. I do not know whether or not “melting pot idea” sounds good in English.
What do you think? I have to do much more editing but I wonder if you think I can use the term. That I can get the point across.
“Everybody talks about the melting pot idea. They say that it is the idea that all peoples will be mixed and become one race which includes that the original race will vanish. To make the melting pot come true, EVERY white country and ONLY white countries have to take in millions of non-whites and quote assimilate unquote with them.”
“Nobody says that the melting pot idea is a good thing for Asia, Africa or other non-white countries. When people object to this policy of melting pot and mass-immigration, they use the excuse that all white countries have a low birth rate.”
“Japan and Israel have also low birth rates, but nobody suggests that the melting pot idea nor mass-immigration is neither necessary nor a good thing for Japan or Israel.”
“What if I said that this melting pot idea was a good thing for EVERY black country and ONLY black countries?”
“How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a melting pot idea. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK people?”
“And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?”
“But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, everybody agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”
“They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.”
“Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”
Comment by Adelheim —
I did your editing for you. We now need input from others who live in Europe or elsewhere where the term “race problem” is not used.
Come on, tenestre, Budarick! I DEFINITELY can’t do this one alone!
“Adelheim, the Torch is Passing to YOU!”
Sounds easy, right?
On the track team I ran in the mile relay. There are four runners, each of whom runs a quarter of a mile and then passes the baton on to the next runner. I was not a championship runner, but I was ASTONISHED to discover that, even on COLLEGE teams, the baton got dropped.
I doubt a single team that dropped a single baton ever won the relay. It costs SECONDS, and in a relay a single second is usually decisive. As the exhausted runner comes in, you must start running, get to full speed, and take the baton out of his hand. You must get started up to full speed and get that stick just at the right moment.
When you drop it, it makes you look a bungling amateur, the way an Olympic skater looks stupid when they fall on their ass in the middle of a routine that would have put a mere professional on their backside long since.
Passing the torch is hard. TAKING the torch is harder.
Adelheim sent me a PM on SF that led me to put the last entry in here.
What he is doing is translating the Mantra. That I will deal with last, because, if you read the peices below, you will realize this is deadly serious WORK. Our message IS our work.
We must formulate it and TRY it. You cannot imagine how great it is for me not to be doing this alone.
In response to his PM I asked Adelheim to put the comment HERE rahter than in a private PM so I wouldn’t have to go back and forth and check ut what I could quote here. This is SEMINAR business.
Adelheim did more than that. He put the comment here and then wrote me a PM telling me WHERE it was.
He then ended by quoting my words, “Adelheim, the Torch is Passing to YOU!”
He is taking that torch cery well. You see, Adelheim has been reading my ravings here and he knows one problem I have that escapes the notice of others. I clear comments and then I can’t FIND them. They all come together and by the time I want to get to them I have to guess which article it was a comment on. So Adelheim let me know.
As it happens, I had just done the exact same thing he was anticipating. I had cleared his comment and couldn’t FIND it.
There is a more general point here. One of the main things a Big Chief staffer for a busy man must do is look at the world from HIS point of view. You don’t sit around worrying whether his last comment to you was a hint that your mother is ugly. You don’t sit around worrying what he may ask you.
YOU work for HIM. If he asks you something, you just answer honestly. The answer is often, “I didn’t do that. I’m sorry. I will.”
He doesn’t care WHY.
Write while he is talking or as soon as you leave his office. What HE told you is the ONLY important thing going on. I only went back to him when I HAD to or when the job was done and he may want to give me more instructions.
In mid-project, fi I HAD to get back to him, I would usually write a short paragraph reminding him what he asked me to do. He is is lliterally dealing with ahundred other things and no matter how senior a staffer I am, that particular subject will not jump to his mind.
If wht I have to say does not leap to mind the moment he sees me or my note, I am not supposd to get under my bed and suck my thumb because it doesn’t and he doesn’t appreciate me.
HE or SHE, the person I am working for, needs a quick reminder of what the subject is, what I was supposed to do, then what I found out so far and a QUICK summary of what I need HIM to decide.
Then comes the most important piece of punctuation there is in dealing with a busy, important person:
He is not fascinated by how hard I looked for something. He MAY need to be told whether it CAN be found or not. That’s what he’s paying YOU for.
He is not interested in side subjects, no matter how fascinating. If they get that interesting, I’ll send him another note or see him about THAT subject. Otherwise you must assume he has subjects of his own to deal with.
He takes two minutes, checks one of the options I put there, and can then drop it in his Out box. I am flattered to say that all of them usually called in his Office Manager and said, “Get this to Bob.” I considered his time, he considered mine.
REAGAN did that once, and the whole office was jealous.
Management and doing a good job consists largely at looking at things from the other person’s point of view. The people who talk about that seldom practice it.
Use it sparingly, but not for the reason you think.
If you send me an e-mail or a PM on SF, I have to go through th ritual of asking you what I can quote in the blog. For me, private messages are PRIVATE.
If you do write me at the above address, please let me know up front what I may quote. I don’t need your name or even your pseuodnym to quote you here, but I can quote NOTHING from a private communication without permission, which is a pain in the keester.
My name has ALWAUS been in the phone book, complete with my address. I have gotten many threatening phone calls. So what? I have subject to clogging on my private address
It goes with the territory and it always has.
I just explained to Mark something he already knows:
Mark, the Mantra and HERESY! did not spring out of my typewriter fully grown, as you well know. They are so good htat nobody NOTICES it outside our little circle.
One thing that makes writing a book such a misery is that you do it ALONE. I have over 23,000 words in draft. The big question is, is it still on an understandable subject in an understandable direction or have I wandered too far?
I dread submitting it to anybody for a read.
First, I will have to listen to their ritual bit about they “have a life” several times. Then they will tell me I should read oneof the two books they have read since I gave them the manuscript.
Finally, at long last, I will call them the fifth time and they will say, yes, they read it last week.
The reason I am so exhausted and so anxious is that writing 23,000 words for publication is hard work. But it may all need to be started again from scratch. Whether or no I can proceed depends on my getting someone else to read it over. This is a BIG deal.
After the ritual “I’ve got a life” and “Why don’t you read the books I have read since you sent me this” comes the announcement that they did read it last week. Now comes ANOTHER painful ritual.
I want to know. I NEED to know, if it makes sense when someone reads it over the way a regular eader would. Everybody knows that a writer has a hard time proffing his own spelling. You need someone ELSE to edit it.
So, finally, this person has read it, though they didn’t bother to tell me so. Now comes the NEXT ritual:
“I read it and I’ve been thinking about it.”
“Yes, yes, what’s the verdict?”
“Well, I know you ran it through your spellchecker, but I still can’t decide whether you spelled “peanut butter” right. Shouldn’t there be a hyphen in there?
In the movie “Telefon” someone was able to kill the person on the other end of the line. I want to find out how to do that.
No, I did not write the book so people could check my spellchecker. I want to know if people can read it and if it follows. The time you spent reading magazines last week would be enough to read it over quickly, which what the reader will do, not even taking those two books into account.
How is the book coming? I put the intro here. I put a later chapter here.
Nothing back about whether it flowed or makes sense.
I am taking them out. I need a reader who will READ the damned thing.
And I am going to stop writing this before I bust a gut.
“I noticed they and my answers seemed to have disappeared, but my initial Mantra post remained.”
Peter, would it be possible for you to show how you answer the, “I don’t know anyone advocating non-white immigration/assimilation…” objection? If we could put that alongside the Mantra for a fast cut and paste it would speed things up and make it harder for our posters to get “off message.”
I’ve asked Bob a time or two to put the Heresy piece below the Mantra on his Mantra page but so far he hasn’t had time — or else I haven’t found it. If we had the 1.)Mantra, 2.) Who’s advocating this?, and the 3.) Heresy Response within reach it may make things more efficient and get more of us posting.
BTW, good work!
Mark is doing it right. If I don’t answer a pit you need answering, REMIND me. If you don’t feel I am addressing somebody adquately or or rightly, bite your pack leader on the tail.
I am getting CONSTRUCTIVE suggestions from you. You are necouraging EACH OTHER and leaving it all to me. I haven’t seen this sort of thing in fifty years of trying.
Mean, moan, there has GOT to be something WRONG here. My first thought is htat you are all agents snert by the Secret Service of the Planet Xenon.
You came BACK with something critical. How else would I KNOW that so many people in Europe may not have heard the exact words “race problem?”
Mark, the Mantra nad HERESY! did not spring out of my typewriter fully grown, as you well know. They are so good htat nobody NOTICES it outside our little circle.
But now I am going to try grind out what you ask for with the hundred rewrites to cut it down, cut it down, cut it down, and to make it unanswerable.