Archive for February, 2007
One time in his life, Joseph Stalin actually had a JOB! He only did it once, and he only worked for a short time, but that destroyed his virginity forever. The only place where virginity gets renewed is in the Islamic Paradise.
That was Stalin’s unique crime as a Champion of the Working Class.
Go through the whole list, Lenin, Trotsky, Malenkov, NONE of the Leaders of the Working Class ever held a JOB. None of them would have been known which end of a shovel to hold onto. Ted Kennedy is the Champion of the Working Class in America.
You show me somebody who praises the Working Class and I’ll show you somebody who has not had an extended talk with any working person in at least a decade. Jane Fonda talked about how great Communism was. She said that if we really knew what Communism was, we would get down on our knees and pray to God (WHO!?) for the dictatorship of the proletariat.
How often has Jane Fonda ever sat and LISTENED to a working stiff?
Yes, Stalin was our Great Ally in World War II. But his name is soiled forever in the eyes of True Idealists.
I sent the mantra to 12 people that I know personally. I got replies from exactly no one. Well damn, I don’t care. They have been told.
Comment by shari
Shari, most people think that twelve mail outs and no replies is bad. But the grassroots conservative movement, back when liberals absolutely controlled ALL media, as based on direct mail.
Here’s the way it works.
1) You rent a random three thousand names off of somebody’s much bigger list. That is enough to make a statistically valid test of that general list. If you were a conservative interested in prayers in schools, you might rent three thousand off of a list of a hundred thousand who have given money to support some other conservative religious cause.
2) If you get a TWO PERCENT RETURN on that list, it is a wild success. That means not one in twelve, but one in fifty. You almost always lose money on a test.
3) Now you decide to go ahead and rent the whole hundred thousand because you only lost about half the money you spent on the test. Why on earth would you do this, knowing it will cost you money?
Because when you mail the whole hundred thousand, you can expect two thousand people to respond. Actually two percent is ridiculously high, but this is for basics.
You have now found, by the only way then possible, two thousand people who are interested in YOUR cause and will give you money. You put those two thousand on your OWN “house list.” These are people you can appeal to from time to time and you will get a ten to twenty percent return from them.
4) You mail your house list to fund your organization, but you keep testing other lists.
When conservatism was a grass roots movement, this was about the only way groups survived. Now the neos have brought in the usual big Jewish money which has control and conservatism gives the finger to the grassroots.
But dealing in direct mail teaches you that people don’t respond to even small group mailings more than we do. I get a HUGE number of things that I read, but I respond to very, very few.
My local newspaper has a circulation of at least a hundred thousand. They print almost every letter to the editor that is not blatantly Politically Incorrect. People who read the editorial page send in maybe a half a dozen letters a day. Call that a response rate of one in ten thousand. Cut out the repeat offenders and it is down to on in twenty or thirty thousand.
But every day the newspaper keeps putting out editorials anyway.
You will note that when I get comments here I am a happy old bigot.
Now you know why.
For the first time in the history of The Blog People, I went to comments and there was NO Spam.
THREE comments arrive at my door. Can you imagine how you would feel if, one day, your mail consisted of nothing but PERSONAL replies?
What if we were like the leftists, and put the manra into EVERY note, every e-mail, and we didn’t give a damn if anyone was offended by it or not?
Some would decide you are nuts. Others would do the same thing.
WHICH group MATTERS?
Be inconsiderate. Be aggressive.
As Sarge says, DO it!!!
“May you live in INTERESTING times.”
So goes the Chinese curse. Nobody is interested in good times. When you read about them, they are boring. Have you noticed how fairy tales END with, “And they lived happily ever after.” No fairy tale describes this “happily ever after” period. It wouldn’t have been safe to do that.
You have just told fairy tale to children who enjoy the concept that Hansel and Gretel were about to be baked alive in an oven and who are now cheering the fact that a hungry old woman died in that agony instead. You then proceed to bore them to death with a description of the day-to-day uncluttered, uneventful life of uncomplicated happiness that Hansel and Gretel lived for the next fifty years, day by day.
I shudder to think that those kids would do to you. You had damned well better be sure there is no fire on the stove.
Compared to the fourteenth century outbreak of the bubonic plague, we live in BORING times.
No one will forgive me for pointing out, on balance, that Plague outbreak was a good thing. For the next two centuries, people in Europe lived MUCH better because of it. But those were BORING times.
You see, back then the population did not bounce back from a disaster. “A woman’s place is in the home” comes from the fact that a woman back then had to spend her entire life having and raising children just to keep the population stable. We have more fun blaming all this on a plot by men to suppress women, and the fact that it isn’t true never kept any documentary from having a guy with a British accent from pronouncing this Politically Correct point of view in the ad for Politically Correctness that comes at the end of every documentary.
Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth, the Plague created a population deficit that remade the economics of the time for two centuries. With so many whole villages wiped out, owners of land had to pay the remaining peasants unheard-of wages. The old sharecropper system completely collapsed all over Europe.
Yes, the Intellectuals tried to stop all this by Planning. They got together and set wages. But, as in the Soviet Empire, it just didn’t WORK. Back then they couldn’t even build a Berlin Wall to keep the workers from escaping.
All this brings us back to Global Warming. There are three positions on Global Warming and the Global Freeze it is supposed to lead to:
!) Liberalism: There will be Global Warming and Freezing so we must have Intellectuals take over the world and plan everything;
2) Respectable Conservatism: Yes, if this were the truth Liberal Intellectuals should rule the world, but it’s not true:
And mine, which nobody but The Blog People hear:
3) So what?
Here comes the Politically Correct narrator:
“Oh, God, Bob! Unlike me, you do not appreciate the HUMANITY here! I feel the pain that only a True Intellectual can appreciate!”
I will agree, because they bore me too much to do anything else, that only Intellectuals like Rousseau, who never saw a savage, Noble or not, in his life, can really appreciate Human Suffering more than I can, thought I have seen and SMELLED starvation.
As I say, all this Politically Correct hysteria bores me so much that I am happy to stipulate what this London-bound narrator with his Politically Correct ad at the end of every documentary says just to shut him up.
Yes, British Accent, only you and the Intellectuals understand Human Suffering.
I was watching a documentary about The Little Ice Age. They discussed the Black Plague and how it may have been so bad because people were weak and hungry from the change of weather. So far, so good.
They talked about how the Intellectuals of the age reacted to the Plague by burning witches. We have seen the same reaction when Soviet economic plans kept failing. Obviously this couldn’t be the fault of the Perfect Economic System run by Intellectuals, so it had to be “wreckers,” tens of millions of them, who were sabotaging the Perfect Economy.
Those who burned witches in earlier centuries were pikers. They killed a paltry few thousand witches. “Soviet Power” killed its witches by the tens of millions.
But every documentary must end with an ad for Political Correctness. This one ended by saying that if we have global warming it will be worse, because we have a lot more people on earth than they did in earlier centuries.
When somebody says something this dumb, I can laugh or I can cry. As Basso Profundo advises, I have spent too much of my life raging and moaning. So I’ll smile, though you might hear a bit of tooth-grinding in the background.
How in heaven’s name can anybody say that we are less able to handle a fifty or hundred-year crisis today than Communists or earlier witch-burners were? I quoted the Politically Correct advertisement from another documentary that said that half the population lived on the coast, and if sea level went up over the next half century, they would all drown.
There are two positions on global warming:
1) Liberals say that every white country must stop economic development to stop it;
2) Respectable conservatives say it ain’t gonna happen.
As an evil racist, let me add a third point of view:
3) So what?
If there is global warming occurs, with global freezing after it, we will turn up our air conditioners and then our heat, year by year.
Back to Peak Oil, which by now I may understand. Air conditioners and heat up will require more energy. So we will produce more energy. Just as people will move out of coastal areas as they go under water, we will produce the energy. We can do that now with nuclear power, but in fifty years that will be primitive.
Speaking of primitive, all the Political Correctness ads at the end of documentaries feature the fact that agriculture will be screwed up. Will we all starve? No, we will develop hydroponics. Like Peak Oil, we don’t develop hydroponics now because it is cheaper and easier to take the cheap stuff we can get from the soil, be it oil or wheat.
But are we all going to die because developing something else is expensive? I doubt it. If we spent the money we put out now protecting Israel’s interests in Iraq on atomic power plants and hydroponics, we would have more good and fuel than we do today.
A good example is what happened with rubber during World War II. You can still see movies from abut 1942 and 1943 when people were fighting over old tires. The Japanese had overrun the rubber-producing areas of Southeast Asia and, even in the other panics of the early World War II period; the total absence of rubber caused a panic.
That crisis had been forgotten by 1945. A synthetic rubber was produced. It was a very bad rubber at first, very brittle. But by 1950 NOBODY would have gone back to natural rubber.
It is too bad our documentary-makers couldn’t be in the 1942 period. They could have pissed and moaned about our artificial white society had depended on exploiting the poor Southeast Asians for rubber, and we were going to PAY THE PRICE. They would say that our only salvation was to ration rubber and turn Rubber Planning over to the Intellectuals.
Of course, having a Kyoto Conference on Rubber in 1942 might be a bit awkward, but there is always a place for Intellectuals to meet and Plan Things.
It might be helpful if someone followed-up with a reply.
Comment by cl
I see one reply so far. Is that one of the Blog People?
Come on, gang! Let’s not leave cl hanging the way we did Mark!
I don’t think I have ever posted one of your essays, but I post the mantra so much that I’m surprised someone has not whacked me over the head and said “DAMNIT WOMAN, STOP POSTING THAT THING. WE HAVE READ IT ENOUGH!”
I just don’t bother to report back on here with a “look at me, aren’t I so wonderful by doing something so simple as cutting and pasting words that aren’t even my own”. I mean, why brag about that? The answer to that seems to be that it makes you feel better, but I’m telling you, it feels awfully unnatural.
Papillon, you made a common mistake:
You were so concerned about the social lesson you have been taught about not being a braggart that you completely forgot the fact that Ole Bob may NEED to hear what you just wrote.
It helped a lot.
Please see if you can help Mark and cl out.
I don’t repeat what mderpelding says out here a lot. What mderpelding says always has three vital elements:
1) A beginning;
2) A middle;
3) An end.
What you see is what you get. You may think it’s good or ridiculous, but it’s all right there.
I like that.
My brother told me he had caught up with the Blog but he said apologetically, “I didn’t read the comments.” That was satisfying to me because he had read the Blog enough to realize that I KEEP saying that you haven’t read it if you haven’t read the comments.
I know the comments are being read because commenters are talking to each other. And the commenters are answering each other in the terms of THIS BLOG. I will come down hard on anybody who wanders from the point.
Mderpelding brought up a point I need to expand on:
Have you ever questioned WHY global warming HAS to be the fault of whites?
Have you ever questioned WHY third world poverty HAS to be the fault of whites?
Have you ever questioned WHY the third world must be integrated with us and ONLY us?
Us whites, that is.
In our world, we usually only accept responsibility for that which we can CONTROL.
Do you see where the real “white supremacists” are?
Do You See?
Who insists that global warming IS the fault of the west?
Who insists that third world poverty IS the fault of the west? (imperialism)
Who insists white countries and ONLY white countries benefit from “Diversity”?
White Supremacists. Of course.
Ironic, ain’t it?
Comment by mderpelding
During the nineteenth century whites found ways to end starvation for the first time in human history. We ended diseases that had always been considered a part of life.
No white man ever did anything bad that every other race had not done before. Everybody who had the people had always enslaved others. While we were developing our guilt complex about blacks in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, blacks in Africa were taking land from the Hottentots and committing genocide against them. That’s what strong people ALWAYS did to weak people.
There was only ONE unique characteristic of whites. They found ways to make life BETTER without enslaving others. They found ways to gain a new level of wealth without whipping it out of the hides of conquered peoples.
No one had EVER done that before.
So what was our reaction?
We told each other that we were rich but other people were poor. By “poor” we meant they were in the same miserable condition they had always been in. We whites were HUNGRY for guilt. We wanted to feel BAD about anything we had done that was good.
A commenter mentioned Weltanschauung to me, “world view. There are German words like Gestalt that have been adopted into general discussion. Schadenfreude, the joy a lowly person feels at something awful that happens to more fortunate people, is a German word that is better than some English translation.
That word is Schuldhunger, “a Hunger for Guilt.” It is the disease of Germany today. It is the essence of “ianity” as opposed to Christ. It is the basis of genocide against whites:
“Liberals and respectable conservatives say there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.”
“The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.”
“Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.”
“What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?”
“How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem? I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?”
“And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?”
“But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
“Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”
But I want to introduce a German word that nobody needs today more than Germans do.
If you are a REAL Man, the Greatest Generation tells us, you don’t NEED anybody. But I told Mark that I needed him, our Sarge. Bob’s a wimp, gang.
I’m PROUD of it. No matter how pissed off Mark gets, and God knows I understand how pissed off he is, I can appeal to him by the unfair tactic of saying ***I*** need him.
However he may criticize me, Mark knows WHO I am, and Ole Bob takes pride in that.
As for being a wimp in the eyes of the group that calls itself The Greatest Generation, Basso Profundo says, “you deballed the World War II Generation again …”
Hey, Profundo, you can’t deball a hen.
It is hard for others to understand how completely I identify with Mark. Mark is out there hitting with the Mantra. He asked REPEATEDLY for some of us to join him.
The reply was, “But I am doing something else.” How many times has every sergeant heard that line?
You may BE doing something else. My ideas will spread. But you also owe MARK some backing, some ACTION.
Mark is pissing you off. He is sarging.
Show me a sergeant who pisses no one off, who is beloved. I’ll show you a noncom who needs to be retired or transferred.
Mark is doing what I cannot do. I need to keep our little force in being. If I were to bitch and moan endlessly about how people aren’t pitching in, I would lose my audience.
So I’ve got Mark, who sergeants. He doesn’t give a flying horsehockey whether he is hated or not. In fact, if he started being liked, he might feel very uncomfortable.
Mark is sergeanting.
Understand where I am coming from. To me, follow-up is everything. Mark is out there in the trenches and HE says he is alone. Mark told us again and again where we could meet him and back him up.
I have faith in spreading ideas. I believe that my writing them down here is critical. I believe Alan when he says he is pushing these ideas in his own way.
But I have also been out there alone the way Mark is. Mark says, “Here we have these marvelous weapons. I am out here and no one else is.”
Just saying, “Well, have faith that I am doing just as much on other fronts” is not enough. If you want to be part of this war, and a comrade like Mark says you are MIA, you should think about HOW you are being MIA.
Thanks, Mark. I can’t sergeant like you do. You are the only one out there and that takes a courage I appreciate. Just keep coming here sergeanting. Tell is EXACTLY where we should be.
Do what you are doing, but hit us regularly with your demand that we get out there like you are.
If you think Mark pisses you off you would never want to meet the younger Bob Whitaker. Mark is what I used to be, though, like all old men, I think I was even meaner.
Sic ‘em, Sarge!
P.S. Something just occurred to me.
I was considering whether I should put the piece above, “Schuldhunger,” on Stormfront.
But then I thought about THIS piece. Why doesn’t somebody ELSE copy and paste that onto Stormfront? If what I say is so good, so praiseworthy, why do ***I***, and I alone, have to put it on SF? Remember that Mark is dealing with newsgroups out there, but we ALL know about SF. If everybody is doing things, why is the most obvious forum of all empty of the best blog stuff unless I put it in?
Pain put one of my pieces of SF once, but I already had. So did that make us look BAD?
No way! Nothing would be better than for Stormfront readers to say, “Oh, my God, Whitaker’s fans are putting his stuff in here AGAIN!”
Granted it wouldn’t make YOU look great. But that isn’t the point, is it? It would make it look like a group thinks what Whitaker says is critical stuff.
I don’t think that, outside of Pain, I have ever seen one of you put my stuff into SF.
That makes me a bit doubtful that everybody is doing “something else.”
I am asking for copy and paste, not a frigging moon landing program.
If for no other reason, do it to make Bob feel better.
Ten of them this time, and great ones!
WOL was just me talking, and the blog started that way. But unlike Mommy Professor, and unlike most old men, Bob has been evolving steadily. We went into seminar mode. Now most of my entries are titled with the name of the commenter who got me going.
Hopefully you think this shows humility on my part. Actually it shows PRIDE on my part. My BUSINESS, the BUSINESS I got paid for, is knowing people. I AM a people, gang! I know very well the rut that a person my age gets into. The old guy becomes the Authority: “Children should be seen, not heard,” and every year the old guy’s idea of the age at which one ceases to be a child goes up.
Not Ole Bob. I have completely lost track of the ages of commenters.
I got a kick out of Basso Profundo’s reply to my saying I had stomped on him, which amounted to “You stomped WHO, Whitaker?”
Pain, with whom I have spoken a few times so I know he was born when I was middle aged, jumped on me saying that the Soviet Empire was the greatest tyranny ever known. Good point, Pain, but I did think about that before I wrote it. The one that you are referring to is not KNOWN. If it were, much of OUR job would already be DONE. The Soviet Empire was a part of it, and I am still proud of having done some surgery to cut THAT piece of its anatomy off.
I understand Mark’s frustration. He has been boycotting me, and I don’t like it at all, which is one reason he is doing it. Mark, I was in the same mood many, many times. If I could get people out there FIGHTING, we could rip the antis to pieces. But this is all I HAVE, Mark, this is more energy than the doctor tells me I should be expending. Give me a BREAK, man!
I NEED Sarge and I’m not too proud to say so.
The Greatest Generation “models” contributed little. Their “corporate form” had to be undone in the 1980s to get improvement in America’s productivity.
The Greatest Generation was one of the most unproductive generations in history, the proof being the great inflations of their working lives (1940s through early 1980s), inflation representing nothing more than a shortage of consumer goods, the opposite of what the MSM tell us.
The Greatest Generation was good at getting others to pay their bills. That’s over, and that fact that we are stuck with their bills is the biggest economic problem we have.
Comment by Dave —
Yes, we are STILL paying for WWII and those benefits. I tried to introduce this into the economics literature, and you can imagine the reaction I got.
Back in the 1960s I added up the costs of the DEBT from World War II, just the war, not the veterans’ benefits still being paid. The war had been paid largely by debt. But that debt had been racked up over twenty years before. The INTEREST on the debt had more than doubled it.
Ever since 1945, the Federal Government had routinely run a deficit. But if you subtracted the interest on the debt from World War II from that deficit, outgoes and income were equal. In other words, our ENTIRE debt came from WWII. It has not been paid.
Now WWII and its debt are in their SEVENTH decade. Would you care to do a little arithmetic and figure what the geometric progression has made it NOW? PLUS the debt we ran up paying those benefits to twelve million “vets.”
Giving a third of the world’s population to Stalin and Mao was an expensive proposition.
Besides which, since we had destroyed the Anti-Cominterm Axis — the word before “Axis” has not been pronounced in many, many years — we spent most of the Federal budget defending against a threat Germany and Japan were no longer there to resist.
I tried to say that with my Peak Oil posts, that the timing for the death strike against white liberalism is very near, but you chewed my head off then beat me with the mantra. Even white liberals (and that is the only kind) realize that what they advocated in regards to racial equality is a failure, and so most of them are switching over to Global Warming and energy depletion as their choice of “dramatics.” If it weren’t for the propaganda efforts of the “respectables” and their quest for empire the whole charade would collapse, and it will once our economy seeks its natural level and the cult’s lies are no longer profitable to the average lumpen.
Comment by Simmons
A little while back Simmons told me to take a break, “We’ll take it from here.”
So I took break, a long one for a workaholic like me, and waited for Simmons to get in here. He disappeared, unless this is my attention deficit talking. Now here he is back, thank God, but the old bastard Bob has another bitch to make.
I want Simmons to stop mentioning it and giving us web sites and TELL is what EXACTLY his “Peak Oil” idea is.
Yes, Prof Bob pooh-poohed it once, but this is NOT Mommy Professor territory.
Basso Profundo just got slammed — again — but he’ll be back and he enjoys it. I have slammed about everybody here and nobody minds slamming me when they think I need it.
Try THAT on Mommy Professor’s turf!
I approve your comments. I decide who is an old timer here, and I think you should be COMPLIMENTED when you get in here as a regular grad in our seminar. This puts an obligation on you. I am not interested in what some website says. I am interested in what YOU have to bring to US.
Even SHARI, whom I thumped on for a year about her humility, has stood up and started walking tall. She now understands that if you get in here the way she has, it offends ME if you act like you are not proud of it.
Dammit, Simmons, I want you to sit down and WRITE what Peak Oil IS, and put it in OUR context. No one outside our group can DO that, so referring to a web site won’t do it.
The Artist Formerly Known As Nobody replies:
Alan makes a much stronger point than many may realize.
For instance, I broke with Conservatism when I realized that, for SOME reason, the Godless Communists of the USSR were always facing massive crop failures, and yet, somehow, we kept bailing them out. At THAT point, I realized that Conservatism, in practice, was more of a CON game, than CONservatism.
I suspect that, at the end of the day, it all comes down to Peter Shank’s elegant formulation of FAMILY, RACE and CULTURE – especially RACE, which I see as the Living Bridge between Family and Culture.
I also realize that we are degenerating into the Aristocratic Republic we grew from; twelve years of Bush, eight years of Clinton, eight years of Bush – and Hilary guaranteed to run in ‘08. Further, it looks like The Game was rigged all along – BOB DOLE for President?
Thirty years ago, Robert Townsend, writing in “Up The Organization,” noted that the corporate form ws useful; even if the people who owned them were using them solely to keep the Game going, it was useful. Those corporate Forms were derived from the self-proclaimed “Greatest Generation’s” experience, and models of organizational behavior. You respected the uniform of a superior officer, and ignored the character of the man in it.
Those were the matters of Form that led us to where we are today.
We have been led down the path of folowing the matters of Form without question, and pretty much, ignoring the matters of Substance – Family, RACE and Culture – to our peril.
Our hereditary RACIAL enemies, the Satanic demons known as JEWS, have never lost their clear focus on just these issues; to them, RACE above all, and CULTURE exists solely to serve the RACE.
We have been like blind men playing baseball, with no idea what the game board looks like, or what the rules REALLY are, with the referee working hand-in-glove with our RACIAL enemies.
It’s really very simple – everything outside of Family, RACE and Culture – especially RACE – is really something of a sideshow, designed to keep the Drones amused, and busy, while remaining in their place, as cattle before Gods.
We have always been the ones who compromised, who HAD to compromise, as we accepted our RACIAL enemy’s terms and definition, in a social environment, a Culture, where we were encouraged to “go along to get along.”
Either we recognize that this is a life or death battle, and our children, our Posterity, and the world they will inhabit, are the stakes here, or we are doomed to always playing the Enemy’s gsmer, at the Enemy’s table, on the Enemy’s terms – and the Enemy gets to referee.
For the FIRST time, we have reduced the terms to what truly matters, and understand them.
Now, we must apply the same level of skilled ruthlessness to them, that they apply to us.
Above all, we must develop that skill, first and foremost, within our selves, by being focused and disciplined, and never allowing ourselves to forget the REAL issues at stake in every decision we make, no matter how small or trivial it may seem.
And what ARE those issues?
Family, RACE and Culture – simple as that.
Just keep plugging everybody. Total victory is just around the corner. A week. A month. Maybe a year at the outside. Just keep plugging. Surely you can see the signs of victory all around you. Your check is in the mail.
I stood on a bridge in Moscow and gave the finger to the most powerful despotism the world has ever known because I had been instrumental in destroying it.
I was appointed to a critical job by a president I was instrumental in electing.
During all the years I was doing these things, the Basso Profundos kept losing, and kept telling me I would lose.
I wonder if you see any connection?
Liberal was in fashion when civil rights was pushed along with busing, equality and immigration reform. Once these negative effects of this came forth then the heat was on the “Liberals”. This one label carried the stigma of all that went wrong with leftist idealism mentioned above. The “Liberals” became progressives or moderates etc, they figured nobody would notice. The proper conservative was used to save the cultural deviants, if Bob Dole was seen along side Ted Kennedy then he must not be all that bad so it goes. Every time these SOB’s are on the ropes it’s somebody on the other side that saves the “Liberals”, why not, the propers would have to behave like all the others who are never allowed on TV.
Comment by Alan
Anti-racists today are in EXACTLY the position liberals were in in the period you talk abut, when they got discredited. “There is no room for racism in American society” is phrase you hear less of today. People are EXPERIENCING what it means. It means suppression of all opposition, which is what liberalism came to mean in the 60s.
It took quite a while for people to even begin to attack the holy word “liberal.” It had been a mantra for a full generation. But it critically important that I now find that EVERYBODY laughs when I say “anaziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.” People would have seamed bloody murder if I had said that before 1980. I am attacking what WAS a Holy Mantra. Now it is laughing stock.
The trick is knowing WHEN that turning-point has come.
I did a piece recently on white’s right to discriminate. The brilliance of this argument IS NOT THE ARGUMENT. I will get people chiming in and saying I am RIGHT. But as I keep complaining, that precisely misses the point. We were RIGHT when we said the white man made life worth living in the 1920s. It does not matter that I’M RIGHT.
What MATTERS if the TIMING.
I have had to wait all these years for the antis to go too far. Now THEY are demanding reparations. Now THEY are saying whole races deserve things. Now the whole Ex Oriente Lux crap, where we all owed everything to Moses and Pharaohs, is collapsing. NOW we can attack and state flatly what WE have a right to.
War or politics, which is the same thing, is a matter of TIMING. When I was saying that integration was aimed at genocide in the 1950s, I was RIGHT, but Norman Rockwell was portraying people like me as an attack on little black girls being protected by troops as they entered white schools surrounded by Evil Rednecks. Now it is OBVIOUS genocide.
NOW is the TIME.
But every time I mention the WWII generation and the example of moral cowards just like them in the Catholic hierarchy who played the Godfather to priest who raped little boys, every reply I get is abut what people are used to talking about: homosexuality in the priesthood. That not only has nothing to do with my point, it TRIVIALIZES what I am telling you.
Which is why Mark is so pissed, thought he has a lot to learn from me, too. The simple fact was that in 1968 we cold have DESTRYED liberalism. Humphrey was down to 29% in the polls, and his working-class anti-liberals and Republicans anti-liberals were ready to stomp them into the dust. Mark, can you imagine that I spent TWELVE YEARS in rug-chewing fury while these dolts slowly, slowly got together against the common enemy?
First the enemy does what Alan said. His REAL motives become so clear nobody can miss them. But that is not enough. THEN the whole establishment which has been opposing them has to slowly, glacially, begin to realize it is time for ATTACK. All the subtlety and survival tactics they used before are out of date. It takes a LONG time to get this across.
But I have been this way before.
First the enemy makes his motives so clear nobody can miss them any more. THEN those who have led the moderate response, who are the spokesmen of the opposition, have to be replaced. Reagan lost the nomination fight in 1976.
I am STILL trying to get across to BLOGGERS what the FIRST step is. I am hitting on the second with “respectable conservatives.”
This really bothers me for a very good reason. If you NEVER get over the idea that my exposure of moral cowardice dealing with boy rapes in the Catholic Church and its relevance to the Greatest Generation — and THAT was a wild overstepping that generation gave us to hit them with – how am I EVER going to want you against Step Three?
All those clever people who kept control of the anti-liberals didn’t just get mad and go home, the way Mark sounds like he is doing. They invented Neoconservatism. Now the neoconservatives have us in Iraq in EXACTLY the same way that EXACTLY the same kind of people who got us into Vietnam.
I have made that point several times, but all I get is responses about how Jewish they are and other standard stuff.
Please LISTEN to me! This war will be won. I saw the same war before. But paleoconservatives won the war and lost the peace.
REPEAT: We won the war but we can lose the peace and right back where we were AGAIN. And conservatives did it by going back to the same old crap like a bitch to her vomit.
If you want to WIN, and STAY won, get off the old crap and GET MY POINTS!
Bob, you make important points on this topic and brilliantly.
From the comments here, I think there are a few of us who have watched fine people ruined by malicious gossip. Tale-bearers quickly discover that they can destroy whomever they are jealous of as long as the tales are sensational and nasty enough.
I have known people who have gotten away with exactly what you are talking about. And I know far more who did nothing but a good job but who were ruined by malicious tales.
It seems to me that insiders with the right connections can get away with anything, just as you suggest.
And yet, outsiders and new people with few connections are routinely ruined by jealous people.
This is the price we pay for living in a society where almost everyone is an employee. There are too many of us fighting over the same jobs, perks, promotions, boss’s praise, or corner office. We all are begging for a dollar on the same street.
The routine response to sensational gossip is: “We take these charges seriously.”
The boss may know that the gossip is a habitual liar and that the victim HAD an excellent reputation; but if he were to investigate the matter and question people about it, the sensational nature of the gossip could quickly become impossible to keep awat from the public. So if the victim is new or has few connections, the easiest thing is to fire him.
Gossips know whom to attack.
I know you don’t like the Bible much, but Paul (in Romans 1:28-32) makes a good point that these gossips deserve death: they destroy people’s lives.
My comment here is an extension of what you say, and I also must stick up for the people who have been ruined by false charges of perversion.
Here’s the formula:
The better you do your job –> the better your reputation –> the more jealousy over you –> the more gossip about you –> the more damage to your career.
Everyone wants to be popular; but popularity is costly.
Can you see the clear thinking you have inspired, Bob?
Comment by Pain —
The two pieces below, and a major part of my work, consists of making people take a new look at themselves. I watched while the word “liberal” went from everybody’s favorite label to an abandoned term, all in a decade or two.
And during that decade or two, liberals had absolute control of all means of communication outside of very local newspapers in the South and West. There were NO, repeat NO alternative media AT ALL.
So how did this seemingly hopeless attack on “liberal” in the time John Kennedy took office make it a word you didn’t US after 1972?
Simple: “Liberal” went from MAKING YOU LOOK like an idealist to making you look like a traitor and a fool. As long as the anti-racist or the pro-Communist or the libertarian LOOKS like an idealist or an intellectual, they will be out in force.
THAT is the vital function that respectable conservatives perform. Respectable conservatives began to populate the media at the exact moment that liberalism was becoming a laughing-stock. Suddenly every liberal was paired with a Faithful Conservative Companion.
I distinctly remember that, in the 1950s and early 60s, you would have two liberal Republicans and three liberal Democrats. I remember being in Washington at a Young Republican Leadership Conference when Jack Paar had William Buckley on his program. It was shocking at the time!
In fact, abut half the audience got up and walked out when Buckley left and Paar shouted, “I KNEW this wasn’t my regular audience!” But back then everybody was aware what his regular New York audience was. Can you imagine someone making such a self-revealing statement today?
That is where things were in 1962. One conservative on a late-night talk show was revolutionary. By 1972 every liberal had his Faithful Conservative Companion.
And it was accomplished, not by new arguments alone, but by new arguments SUPPLEMENTED BY IMAGE-BREAKING. You cannot let the other guy walk away with his image intact. He is NOT an idealist. He is NOT worth listening to. He is Mommy Professor’s robot. He hates his own people and wants them destroyed.
Do not seek and correct. Seek and DESTROY.
The article below tells you one reason why actors tend to be leftists. Leftism is based on dramatics, Evil Capitalists versus Feeding the Hungry, the World is About to Drown and so forth. The old British actor James Mason always liked acting without an audience because, he said, “I hate for people to see what a silly thing I do for a living.”
Going to pieces on demand in front of a camera is not what most of us would like to be seen doing. Most of us have trouble smiling three times for a photo that isn’t coming out. Nut the person who can be a professional actor tends to be the opposite of Mason, he is someone who cannot get ENOUGH drama.
What has come close to killing the white race is precisely the fact that we have SOLVED all the dramatic problems. You can RAISE MONEY on dramatic problems. There are huge organizations in DC and New York City and everywhere else that are LOOKING for dramatic problems to raise money on.
Naturally, this desperate pursuit of anything dramatic is going to get a bit silly. Like the idea that, of there is global warming, half of America’s population will simply sit where they are for a century and drown.
“The poor we have always with us.” But we DON’T. What Jesus called “poor” consisted of people whose most usual cause of death was starvation.
Not going to bed hungry.
Not a lack of Vitamin D.
I have seen the funny movies where a beggar demands that Jesus make him a leper again because he made his living begging, but in the real biblical world the competition was fierce and the poor starved. I have watched the third world go from those times, when I could SMELL the special odor of starvation on beggars to now, when they beg for money BEYOND food.
The white man has solved the problem of poverty as any other generation saw it. But you can’t raise a dime by saying THAT.
We have a world in which no one, even in the third world, can imagine what a world without whites would be like. And that, boys and girls, is our biggest single problem.
I tend to laugh in the wrong places, and then feel very lonely.
One example I gave in my book was that, at the age of 17, I first heard the Preamble to the Soviet Constitution. It declared that the USSR was a union of workers, peasant, soldiers, and intellectuals.” I laughed out loud. Then I noticed the rest of the class and the professor were looking at me funny.
To me, the idea that this guy will work in a factory, that guy will work on the farm, and the others guy will be out there freezing his butt off on the front until he loses an arm, while I am “the intellectual” who sits in an office and gives the orders is FUNNY. Who would fall for a load of crap like that?
Who would take that crap SERIOUSLY?
Everybody but me, apparently.
I did the same kind of lonely laughing at a documentary dedicated to the oncoming weather catastrophe. At one point, they state that in fifty to a hundred years the ocean would overwhelm the coast, and that over fifty percent of America’s population LIVES on the land that will be drowned fifty to a hundred years from now! The clear implication is half our population is in eminent danger of drowning.
I STILL can’t write this without bursting into a fit of giggles.
I live in the state where many people didn’t get out of the way of Hugo. I know a lot of people got drowned by Katrina. But even the present administration of the City of New Orleans could probably evacuate most of the population within fifty to one hundred years.
In order to keep up the drama, this program went on to show how Africa had suffered when the weather went awry. But Africa can’t cope with ANYTHING. When was the last time you a picture of starving child who was NOT in Africa? Hundreds of thousands are starving in North Korea and in places like Haiti. You don’t have to be in Africa to have a black skin.
If half of the money spent on Studying World Hunger were spent on food and transportation, nobody would be starving outside the black and Communist worlds. We had a blog entry about a Japanese researcher in Britain who did a study saying that Africa’s problems were due to low IQ. A representative from Oxfam, the anti-hunger group, attacked him for being a yellow naziwhowantedtokillsixmillionjews.
What does Oxfam have to do with this? Nobody cares WHY a child is starving, but Oxfam is there for ideology, not hunger. Can you imagine how many children could be fed the minimum diet they need for the salary that career spokesman gets?
But this is not the point. The point goes back to why that documentary had to shout that half of America was going to drown because the population could not be moved in a period of fifty to a hundred years. You and I know why they implied that:
It was EXCITING.
A whole classroom full of people takes “a union of workers, peasants, soldiers and intellectuals” seriously because it is about the most exciting thing you can to a classroom:
That lecturer up there living the welfare-state life of a tenured professor is not the drone he looks like. He is a Hero who will lead the Working Class. He, along with his fellow intellectuals, meaning YOU, will overthrow all those generals and politicians and capitalists – No one will ever again ask him, “If you’re so smart, why ain’t you RICH?” — – and he, along with his Faithful Hippy Companions – YOU, no less, will assume your rightful role as rulers of the Earth.
That’s why I laughed my ass off. And that’s why I was the only one who did.
We are not armchair generals. Nor are we Buckleylite sounding do-nothings.
It is essential to understand BW’s contribution to triumph of the truth, so bear with me and I will try to convey why I think BW’s perspective is important.
The advent of photography 160 years ago was profound for the prospects of truth. Its implications remain misunderstood to this day. A camera allows you to perceive longitudinally in forward linear time through time-lapse photography. For example, before photography, we were not able to perceive the actual development of a blooming rose.
Also, the camera is a profound lie detector. For example, look at the actual photos of Lincoln. See him dressed impeccably in the latest of European elegance of the time. See his extraordinary attention to narcissistic issues of his personal appearance, his over tailoring right down to the extraordinary polish of his boots.
See the great haughtiness and arrogance of his actual demeanor.
That should tell you more of actual Abraham Lincoln than the billion of words that have been written about him by the intellectual bullshit artists.
The camera was there to record the actual Lincoln. This puts the Orwellians who want to change to past to fit their bullshit to a disadvantage. We have an actual picture of the bastard.
Similarly, I see BW as a discoverer of an analytical camera as profound as photography itself.
BW has taken the facts of history and assembled them into analytical framework based upon racial politics, something only a genuine heretic would do, and something that has never successfully been done before.
Not only that, he has constructed racial facts of American history according to the racially influenced dynamic chain of causality in forward linear time. Accordingly, we see the development of racial fortunes in the United States in the same way a time-lapse photographer sees the blooming of a rose.
There is something wrong with you if you are unable to perceive that this is a monumental intellectual achievement, rescuing real history from the Orwellians.
For those complaining of the impotence of the blog, I have this to say:
There is nothing more ordinary that a group of people with “big plans”. There is nothing more ordinary than people complaining of organizational impotence.
I see it everywhere. It is standard.
But it is extraordinary to find people with an understanding of how to actually get from A to B.
Everybody always knows the “what” he or she wants to achieve, but they are forever flummoxed by the “how”. This is Mark. He is flummoxed by the “how”.
Let me tell you this, if you want to understand the “how” you need to know that strategy and operations are the same thing. That makes planning and campaigns irrelevant.
Planning and campaigns ARE irrelevant and I could say it a million times, but if you do not understand, you do not understand.
Strategy is the simplest and most basic thing in the world. That is because only visibility on the truth matters, SEEING WHAT OTHERS DO NOT, HEARING WHAT OTHERS DO NOT, AND KNOWING WHAT OTHERS DO NOT.
Accordingly, our cause will be won one convert at a time.
It is not possible for it to happen any other way.
Mark reminds me of the story of the drowning man telling an oarsman to go on explaining, “God will save me.”
Then the man drowns. In heaven, the man exclaims to God, “Why didn’t you save me?” God replies, “I sent you a boat you damn fool!”
We have been sent a boat in the form of Robert Whitaker.
You are a damn fool not to know it.
This e-mail gave me lots of info in one place, with pictures, so this one time I’ll pass it on:
More clear evidence of the blessings of diversity!
This link is the FBI’s wanted list, for violent crimes – murders:
And this is the FBI’s wanted list for violent crimes, additional (meaning other than murder, I guess):
Please note that the mot waned include one who comitted “Murder with a Deadly Weapon” and one who is charged with”Murder and Failure to Appear.” I wonder if anyone but me finds anything to mull over about these?
I cannot say that I’m totally on board your theory of the services as queer fraternity
PLEASE don’t do this to me! This is the kind of mindless reaction our enemies will have to what I say.
I DID NOT say the armed services were a queer fraternity. I did not say the Catholic priesthood was a queer fraternity. A queer fraternity would be morally superior to what they ARE.
The only people punished in the Catholic Church were the pedophilic priests. What about the heterosexual priest who simply ignored the little boy — obviously to the first he had seen — who was being raped. Above all, what about the BISHOPS? Every single bishop in America knew this was going on. Compared t the bishops who were godfathering these rapes for decades, sending pedophiles to new locations for new victims, the pedophile priest himself was a saint.
IT is NOT, NOT, *******NOT***** the perverts I am condemning here. Having been a drunk in treatment myself I have less power to condemn other weaknesses than you do.
I condemn the judge who put a drunk driver back on the highways until he kills a family. I am outraged that not one single bishop even got MENTIONES in the church scandal. I am outraged at the heterosexual members of the Masturbation Generation who, I cannot doubt, world NEVER have reported ANY abuse of young boys in basic training by the Sarge or anybody else.
They carried that SAME silence into the destruction of my race. This has NOTHING TO DO with perversion itself.
I do not LIKE homosexuality. I also do not like the idea that I spent a major portion of my life, “Knee-walking, commode-hugging, shit-kicking, nigger-kissing drunk.” I was not cursed with homosexuality, but that is an accident, not my moral superiority.
addicts and queers need to be harshly controlled. But people who ABET addicts and child molesters should be executed, slowly and painfully and in public.
“Their sergeant taught them you can’t fight City Hall. So a real, tough experienced man shows his manhood by giving up.”
Because I am younger, I haven’t run into too many of the Sell It All generation. My grandfather didn’t go because he had a family and was a preacher. The few I’ve run into didn’t like to talk about their experiences. Generally they said yes they were in combat, no they didn’t want to talk about it. If asked if they were decorated, they said yes, but anyone could get a decoration.
I always found it frustrating that the ones I ran into weren’t like the stories I saw on TV.
Until a few days ago. Whooee. I had missed nothing all the years. I spoke to a man’s grandson who told me some of his stories, but I had already heard them before. On TV. In fact the stories sounded exactly like a TV show, down to the exact words used and the PC script about the poor segregated black folk and the Jews they rescued from the disaster shelters. My historian’s sniff meter read: “This man was a cook far back behind the lines.”
Why is it the ones with the real stories of bravery are trying to forget?
Comment by Pain
I will rephrase Pain’s last question:
“What is it that the ones with the real stories of bravery are trying to forget?
Once again, let me remind you of the combat veterans I have talked about here repeatedly, officers who let a fellow officer go to PRISON rather than speak out against their abusing colonel.
Someone said that by MENTIONING the boy rapes by Catholic priests, and the even guiltier bishops who abetted them and helped them do it again, I was being evil. Sorry, but if this is evil, then count me in. There is a HUGE lesson here, because it does not just relate to sickness inside the Catholic Church, but inside of every bureaucracy. And it demonstrates that just because a bureaucracy is running around in costumes, uniforms or backward collars, does not mean that its sickness will be exposed.
British boys’ schools have been homosexual breeding grounds for centuries and everyone knows it. A military force that is given an absolute cart blanche like the World War II one would NEVER expose even the grossest of sex abuse. I remember one little boy talking abut his being raped by a priest when the other priest came in. The other priest, who did not molest boys, didn’t even say a word. He wanted to keep his costume and his job.
When I was in alcohol recovery, a number of the guys there had been molested as boys. They ALL felt guilty abut it, as if it was their fault. They had never before talked about their shame, and THEY had nothing to feel guilty about.
WWII vets may well feel guilty about not exposing what everybody knew was going on. Remember, don’t-ask-don’-tell is always thought of as applying to soldiers of the same rank, an entry-level requirement. The Masturbation Generation probably DID.
We are dealing with a group whose men of established physical bravery let their buddy go to prison rather than speak up. In the conditions of WWII a soldier would NEVER have accused a superior officer of abusing another young man, certainly not himself, and that complaint would never have gotten outside his chain of command.
Field Marshall Montgomery was certainly a raging homosexual. Eisenhower despised him for it. Who in the British Army would have denounced him for ANY action in his bedroom?
In other wars, there was a smaller number of soldiers and the lack of total war would have given them a better chance to complain. It was noted at the time that WWII vets never talked about their experiences, whereas Korean War vets talked abut it all the time.
It seems very likely to me that a Catholic Church type situation was in the World War II armed forces. The same generation that kept the Catholic one under wraps kept that one under wraps.
Yes, sir! A Band of Heroes!
You may wonder why I don’t comment on this blog very often like I used to. Truth is, I find you folks comical — yes, even you Bob.
While debating how to word the mantra, hardly anyone is using it I’m assuming here, but with the lack of feedback of how it’s being used, when, and where, makes this a no-brainer. It just plain ain’t being used.
Go on, comment you whiney-babies. Re-word the damn thing to death, and have your intellectual conversations all you want you Buckleyite-sounding do nothings. Little has changed and unless in the so-called pro-white movement. There are a thousand armchair generals endlessly “getting ready” for the next “big push” but the privates have all gone home to watch Jew T.V. and wait for baseball season to return. I wonder how the white race every got anything done in the past. If genetics is responsible for our achievements you couldn’t prove it by watching you oh-so-smart pro-whites in action today.
Inactivity in action? Hell, I’d call it comatose babbling of the worst sort.
So what am I supposed to do about this?
Believe me, I think regularly about closing up the blog, but where would I put my own thoughts? I do the paying, I do the work, and you are upset that people aren’t putting in effort.
My contributions have, given diminishing returns, over ninety percent already made. Problems with the cable monopoly here have made me pay for a land line in order to keep my DSL.
I am thinking about doing all my internet work on another computer once a week.
What you may be doing is overestimating my importance in my own eyes. I am no longer assembling a team or expecting people to do what they manifestly are not going to do. But what we have here is a group of people who are WORTH me putting my ideas to.
But Mark and I are burned out. I have had two nervous breakdowns and am back. I just read a biography of Stalin that mentioned that when the Germans brought Lenin to Russia in 1917, it was the first time in his life he had ever spoken to a large crowd. The large crowds and the marches come at the end, with the sunshine patriots and the summer warriors marching in them.
I listen to Basso Profundo here telling me I haven’t overthrown the establishment. Gee! How would I have known that if he hadn’t had the originality of thought to come up with it?
I am doing what I can do. Don’t think I have been disappointed for fifty years?
Mark, if you are going to roar in and then quit, you will join a long, long line of others who have done the same thing, including three separate teams who did WOL. All did fine work. But no one has asked a warrior to serve his stretch for twenty-five years since the Roman Empire.
I do not expect ANYBODY else to serve WITHOUT PAY as long as I have. I would have gotten my political money easier if I HADN’T insisted on fighting for our cause. I simply CANNOT stop, and I have watched soldiers and honest fighters like you who have actually done greater things than you will ever know come and go.
You have more than done your stretch. No one will stay in the way I have – nobody else has been in the front of this fight nearly as long as I have is they didn’t make their living at it.
That’s my JOB. That is what I will die with, and it makes me very contented.
I don’t need the torchlight parades. I can see the side I started out against sinking slowly in the mud, with a whisper, not a blast. I see a new world that no one else who has not been right where I am can see. Even if they SAW it, they couldn’t SAY it. A person who makes his living at this must search for things that reinforce his audience’s preconceptions. He must demand attention to his part of the whole. Finally he thinks in no other terms.
Once again, “the manufacture of information.”
If I relied on the work of my audience, I would have quit long ago. I would have quit in the 50s when I saw the Masturbation Generation weaseling out on us and a hundred times since.
But I cannot speak for Mark. I see where I am going. If anybody else could, I would be turning the thing over to them.
In the meantime, I do my duty and I see what others do not see. I predicted every major trend until today, so I have pretty good faith in me.
An unknown voice speaking as Peter delivers the following comment:
“It would be more to the point to suggest that you were ATTEMPTING to deprogram a cult.”
This was in response to Simmons’s comment that we are deprogramming a cult when we deal with Political Correctness. Now whoever said this would have said the same thing if neither Simmons nor I had never been born. There is always somebody who wants to sound profound by saying, “Ah, but the forces against us are POWERFUL!”
This is supposed to be the profound and MASCULINE voice in our conversation, “Boy, what you don’t realize is that it’s a hard, hard world out there.” It is the surrender motto perfected by the Masturbation Generation. Their sergeant taught them you can’t fight City Hall. So a real, tough experienced man shows his manhood by giving up.
Oddly enough, I have some nodding acquaintance with the world outside this room. I will even go so far as to suggest that everyone in this blog is aware that the forces against us are pretty substantial, though this ten millionth reminder of it cannot be anything but impressive.
I am deeply impressed. I am so deeply impressed I think I’ll go puke before I finish this piece.
Not denying the enormity of Wisdom behind all the thousands of Basso Profundos I’ve heard, I might suggest that it comes at a cost to the heroic masculine experience and wisdom soaked being who utters it. That cost is that he hasn’t listened to anything anybody outside PC has said since 1945.
If Mister Masculine Experience had read this blog, he would have seen example after example after example of the steady deprogramming going on. He may even have heard that it took decades for this deprogramming at the top to filer down. The lag time in this day of the internet is down considerably, but Basso Profundo is not aware there IS a lag time, so this is a note to others.
All of the icons of my youth are falling at the top levels. Equal innate racial IQ was at the top of the list as unquestionable. It’s gone now. Ex Oriente Lux, the absolute basis of History 101 in my youth, is gone now. The Holocaust is more and more seen as questionable history with teeth. The idea that the program of “anti-racism” is simply anti-white genocide sells like hotcakes because it’s true. It always was, but it seemed too far-fetched in the segregation days.
I just did a piece on whites’ right to discriminate. In my youth, this could not be sold. But by opening up reparations at their peak of power, minorities have opened up the question of who is owed what, which is one they would not DARE have discussed in my youth, even with Ex Oriente Lux in power, which gave all the white man’s credit to the Middle East. But TODAY the logic of reparations takes us back to logic, that a white skin is a far more just ticket to privilege than the name Kennedy or Rockefeller.
But Basso Profundo noted none of this. Basso Profundo was one of those waiting to say what he would have said had I never been born.