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Around Here Sergeanting is a Verb
Posted by Bob in Bob, Coaching Session on 02/26/2007
If you are a REAL Man, the Greatest Generation tells us, you don’t NEED anybody. But I told Mark that I needed him, our Sarge. Bob’s a wimp, gang.
I’m PROUD of it. No matter how pissed off Mark gets, and God knows I understand how pissed off he is, I can appeal to him by the unfair tactic of saying ***I*** need him.
However he may criticize me, Mark knows WHO I am, and Ole Bob takes pride in that.
As for being a wimp in the eyes of the group that calls itself The Greatest Generation, Basso Profundo says, “you deballed the World War II Generation again …”
Hey, Profundo, you can’t deball a hen.
It is hard for others to understand how completely I identify with Mark. Mark is out there hitting with the Mantra. He asked REPEATEDLY for some of us to join him.
Nobody did..
The reply was, “But I am doing something else.” How many times has every sergeant heard that line?
You may BE doing something else. My ideas will spread. But you also owe MARK some backing, some ACTION.
Mark is pissing you off. He is sarging.
Show me a sergeant who pisses no one off, who is beloved. I’ll show you a noncom who needs to be retired or transferred.
Mark is doing what I cannot do. I need to keep our little force in being. If I were to bitch and moan endlessly about how people aren’t pitching in, I would lose my audience.
So I’ve got Mark, who sergeants. He doesn’t give a flying horsehockey whether he is hated or not. In fact, if he started being liked, he might feel very uncomfortable.
Mark is sergeanting.
Understand where I am coming from. To me, follow-up is everything. Mark is out there in the trenches and HE says he is alone. Mark told us again and again where we could meet him and back him up.
NOBODY did.
I have faith in spreading ideas. I believe that my writing them down here is critical. I believe Alan when he says he is pushing these ideas in his own way.
But I have also been out there alone the way Mark is. Mark says, “Here we have these marvelous weapons. I am out here and no one else is.”
Just saying, “Well, have faith that I am doing just as much on other fronts” is not enough. If you want to be part of this war, and a comrade like Mark says you are MIA, you should think about HOW you are being MIA.
Thanks, Mark. I can’t sergeant like you do. You are the only one out there and that takes a courage I appreciate. Just keep coming here sergeanting. Tell is EXACTLY where we should be.
Do what you are doing, but hit us regularly with your demand that we get out there like you are.
If you think Mark pisses you off you would never want to meet the younger Bob Whitaker. Mark is what I used to be, though, like all old men, I think I was even meaner.
Sic ‘em, Sarge!
P.S. Something just occurred to me.
I was considering whether I should put the piece above, “Schuldhunger,” on Stormfront.
But then I thought about THIS piece. Why doesn’t somebody ELSE copy and paste that onto Stormfront? If what I say is so good, so praiseworthy, why do ***I***, and I alone, have to put it on SF? Remember that Mark is dealing with newsgroups out there, but we ALL know about SF. If everybody is doing things, why is the most obvious forum of all empty of the best blog stuff unless I put it in?
Pain put one of my pieces of SF once, but I already had. So did that make us look BAD?
No way! Nothing would be better than for Stormfront readers to say, “Oh, my God, Whitaker’s fans are putting his stuff in here AGAIN!”
Granted it wouldn’t make YOU look great. But that isn’t the point, is it? It would make it look like a group thinks what Whitaker says is critical stuff.
I don’t think that, outside of Pain, I have ever seen one of you put my stuff into SF.
Including Mark.
That makes me a bit doubtful that everybody is doing “something else.”
I am asking for copy and paste, not a frigging moon landing program.
If for no other reason, do it to make Bob feel better.
DO something.
Dave
Posted by Bob in Comment Responses, History on 02/24/2007
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The Greatest Generation “models” contributed little. Their “corporate form” had to be undone in the 1980s to get improvement in America’s productivity.
The Greatest Generation was one of the most unproductive generations in history, the proof being the great inflations of their working lives (1940s through early 1980s), inflation representing nothing more than a shortage of consumer goods, the opposite of what the MSM tell us.
The Greatest Generation was good at getting others to pay their bills. That’s over, and that fact that we are stuck with their bills is the biggest economic problem we have.
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Yes, we are STILL paying for WWII and those benefits. I tried to introduce this into the economics literature, and you can imagine the reaction I got.
Back in the 1960s I added up the costs of the DEBT from World War II, just the war, not the veterans’ benefits still being paid. The war had been paid largely by debt. But that debt had been racked up over twenty years before. The INTEREST on the debt had more than doubled it.
Ever since 1945, the Federal Government had routinely run a deficit. But if you subtracted the interest on the debt from World War II from that deficit, outgoes and income were equal. In other words, our ENTIRE debt came from WWII. It has not been paid.
Now WWII and its debt are in their SEVENTH decade. Would you care to do a little arithmetic and figure what the geometric progression has made it NOW? PLUS the debt we ran up paying those benefits to twelve million “vets.”
Giving a third of the world’s population to Stalin and Mao was an expensive proposition.
Besides which, since we had destroyed the Anti-Cominterm Axis — the word before “Axis” has not been pronounced in many, many years — we spent most of the Federal budget defending against a threat Germany and Japan were no longer there to resist.
Dammit, Simmons!
Posted by Bob in Bob, Comment Responses on 02/24/2007
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I tried to say that with my Peak Oil posts, that the timing for the death strike against white liberalism is very near, but you chewed my head off then beat me with the mantra. Even white liberals (and that is the only kind) realize that what they advocated in regards to racial equality is a failure, and so most of them are switching over to Global Warming and energy depletion as their choice of “dramatics.” If it weren’t for the propaganda efforts of the “respectables” and their quest for empire the whole charade would collapse, and it will once our economy seeks its natural level and the cult’s lies are no longer profitable to the average lumpen.
Comment by Simmons
ME:
A little while back Simmons told me to take a break, “We’ll take it from here.”
So I took break, a long one for a workaholic like me, and waited for Simmons to get in here. He disappeared, unless this is my attention deficit talking. Now here he is back, thank God, but the old bastard Bob has another bitch to make.
I want Simmons to stop mentioning it and giving us web sites and TELL is what EXACTLY his “Peak Oil” idea is.
Yes, Prof Bob pooh-poohed it once, but this is NOT Mommy Professor territory.
Basso Profundo just got slammed — again — but he’ll be back and he enjoys it. I have slammed about everybody here and nobody minds slamming me when they think I need it.
Try THAT on Mommy Professor’s turf!
I approve your comments. I decide who is an old timer here, and I think you should be COMPLIMENTED when you get in here as a regular grad in our seminar. This puts an obligation on you. I am not interested in what some website says. I am interested in what YOU have to bring to US.
Even SHARI, whom I thumped on for a year about her humility, has stood up and started walking tall. She now understands that if you get in here the way she has, it offends ME if you act like you are not proud of it.
Dammit, Simmons, I want you to sit down and WRITE what Peak Oil IS, and put it in OUR context. No one outside our group can DO that, so referring to a web site won’t do it.
AFKAN
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 02/24/2007
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The Artist Formerly Known As Nobody replies:
Alan makes a much stronger point than many may realize.
For instance, I broke with Conservatism when I realized that, for SOME reason, the Godless Communists of the USSR were always facing massive crop failures, and yet, somehow, we kept bailing them out. At THAT point, I realized that Conservatism, in practice, was more of a CON game, than CONservatism.
I suspect that, at the end of the day, it all comes down to Peter Shank’s elegant formulation of FAMILY, RACE and CULTURE – especially RACE, which I see as the Living Bridge between Family and Culture.
I also realize that we are degenerating into the Aristocratic Republic we grew from; twelve years of Bush, eight years of Clinton, eight years of Bush – and Hilary guaranteed to run in ‘08. Further, it looks like The Game was rigged all along – BOB DOLE for President?
Thirty years ago, Robert Townsend, writing in “Up The Organization,” noted that the corporate form ws useful; even if the people who owned them were using them solely to keep the Game going, it was useful. Those corporate Forms were derived from the self-proclaimed “Greatest Generation’s” experience, and models of organizational behavior. You respected the uniform of a superior officer, and ignored the character of the man in it.
Those were the matters of Form that led us to where we are today.
We have been led down the path of folowing the matters of Form without question, and pretty much, ignoring the matters of Substance – Family, RACE and Culture – to our peril.
Our hereditary RACIAL enemies, the Satanic demons known as JEWS, have never lost their clear focus on just these issues; to them, RACE above all, and CULTURE exists solely to serve the RACE.
We have been like blind men playing baseball, with no idea what the game board looks like, or what the rules REALLY are, with the referee working hand-in-glove with our RACIAL enemies.
It’s really very simple – everything outside of Family, RACE and Culture – especially RACE – is really something of a sideshow, designed to keep the Drones amused, and busy, while remaining in their place, as cattle before Gods.
We have always been the ones who compromised, who HAD to compromise, as we accepted our RACIAL enemy’s terms and definition, in a social environment, a Culture, where we were encouraged to “go along to get along.”
No more.
Either we recognize that this is a life or death battle, and our children, our Posterity, and the world they will inhabit, are the stakes here, or we are doomed to always playing the Enemy’s gsmer, at the Enemy’s table, on the Enemy’s terms – and the Enemy gets to referee.
For the FIRST time, we have reduced the terms to what truly matters, and understand them.
Now, we must apply the same level of skilled ruthlessness to them, that they apply to us.
Above all, we must develop that skill, first and foremost, within our selves, by being focused and disciplined, and never allowing ourselves to forget the REAL issues at stake in every decision we make, no matter how small or trivial it may seem.
And what ARE those issues?
Family, RACE and Culture – simple as that.
Especially RACE.
Basso Profundo
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 02/24/2007
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Just keep plugging everybody. Total victory is just around the corner. A week. A month. Maybe a year at the outside. Just keep plugging. Surely you can see the signs of victory all around you. Your check is in the mail.
Basso Profundo
ME:
I stood on a bridge in Moscow and gave the finger to the most powerful despotism the world has ever known because I had been instrumental in destroying it.
I was appointed to a critical job by a president I was instrumental in electing.
During all the years I was doing these things, the Basso Profundos kept losing, and kept telling me I would lose.
I wonder if you see any connection?
Alan: My War Experience
Posted by Bob in Bob, Coaching Session, Comment Responses, History, How Things Work on 02/23/2007
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Liberal was in fashion when civil rights was pushed along with busing, equality and immigration reform. Once these negative effects of this came forth then the heat was on the “Liberals”. This one label carried the stigma of all that went wrong with leftist idealism mentioned above. The “Liberals” became progressives or moderates etc, they figured nobody would notice. The proper conservative was used to save the cultural deviants, if Bob Dole was seen along side Ted Kennedy then he must not be all that bad so it goes. Every time these SOB’s are on the ropes it’s somebody on the other side that saves the “Liberals”, why not, the propers would have to behave like all the others who are never allowed on TV.
Comment by Alan
ME:
Anti-racists today are in EXACTLY the position liberals were in in the period you talk abut, when they got discredited. “There is no room for racism in American society” is phrase you hear less of today. People are EXPERIENCING what it means. It means suppression of all opposition, which is what liberalism came to mean in the 60s.
It took quite a while for people to even begin to attack the holy word “liberal.” It had been a mantra for a full generation. But it critically important that I now find that EVERYBODY laughs when I say “anaziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.” People would have seamed bloody murder if I had said that before 1980. I am attacking what WAS a Holy Mantra. Now it is laughing stock.
The trick is knowing WHEN that turning-point has come.
I did a piece recently on white’s right to discriminate. The brilliance of this argument IS NOT THE ARGUMENT. I will get people chiming in and saying I am RIGHT. But as I keep complaining, that precisely misses the point. We were RIGHT when we said the white man made life worth living in the 1920s. It does not matter that I’M RIGHT.
What MATTERS if the TIMING.
I have had to wait all these years for the antis to go too far. Now THEY are demanding reparations. Now THEY are saying whole races deserve things. Now the whole Ex Oriente Lux crap, where we all owed everything to Moses and Pharaohs, is collapsing. NOW we can attack and state flatly what WE have a right to.
War or politics, which is the same thing, is a matter of TIMING. When I was saying that integration was aimed at genocide in the 1950s, I was RIGHT, but Norman Rockwell was portraying people like me as an attack on little black girls being protected by troops as they entered white schools surrounded by Evil Rednecks. Now it is OBVIOUS genocide.
NOW is the TIME.
But every time I mention the WWII generation and the example of moral cowards just like them in the Catholic hierarchy who played the Godfather to priest who raped little boys, every reply I get is abut what people are used to talking about: homosexuality in the priesthood. That not only has nothing to do with my point, it TRIVIALIZES what I am telling you.
Which is why Mark is so pissed, thought he has a lot to learn from me, too. The simple fact was that in 1968 we cold have DESTRYED liberalism. Humphrey was down to 29% in the polls, and his working-class anti-liberals and Republicans anti-liberals were ready to stomp them into the dust. Mark, can you imagine that I spent TWELVE YEARS in rug-chewing fury while these dolts slowly, slowly got together against the common enemy?
First the enemy does what Alan said. His REAL motives become so clear nobody can miss them. But that is not enough. THEN the whole establishment which has been opposing them has to slowly, glacially, begin to realize it is time for ATTACK. All the subtlety and survival tactics they used before are out of date. It takes a LONG time to get this across.
But I have been this way before.
First the enemy makes his motives so clear nobody can miss them any more. THEN those who have led the moderate response, who are the spokesmen of the opposition, have to be replaced. Reagan lost the nomination fight in 1976.
I am STILL trying to get across to BLOGGERS what the FIRST step is. I am hitting on the second with “respectable conservatives.”
This really bothers me for a very good reason. If you NEVER get over the idea that my exposure of moral cowardice dealing with boy rapes in the Catholic Church and its relevance to the Greatest Generation — and THAT was a wild overstepping that generation gave us to hit them with – how am I EVER going to want you against Step Three?
All those clever people who kept control of the anti-liberals didn’t just get mad and go home, the way Mark sounds like he is doing. They invented Neoconservatism. Now the neoconservatives have us in Iraq in EXACTLY the same way that EXACTLY the same kind of people who got us into Vietnam.
I have made that point several times, but all I get is responses about how Jewish they are and other standard stuff.
Please LISTEN to me! This war will be won. I saw the same war before. But paleoconservatives won the war and lost the peace.
REPEAT: We won the war but we can lose the peace and right back where we were AGAIN. And conservatives did it by going back to the same old crap like a bitch to her vomit.
If you want to WIN, and STAY won, get off the old crap and GET MY POINTS!
Pain
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session on 02/23/2007
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Bob, you make important points on this topic and brilliantly.
From the comments here, I think there are a few of us who have watched fine people ruined by malicious gossip. Tale-bearers quickly discover that they can destroy whomever they are jealous of as long as the tales are sensational and nasty enough.
I have known people who have gotten away with exactly what you are talking about. And I know far more who did nothing but a good job but who were ruined by malicious tales.
It seems to me that insiders with the right connections can get away with anything, just as you suggest.
And yet, outsiders and new people with few connections are routinely ruined by jealous people.
This is the price we pay for living in a society where almost everyone is an employee. There are too many of us fighting over the same jobs, perks, promotions, boss’s praise, or corner office. We all are begging for a dollar on the same street.
The routine response to sensational gossip is: “We take these charges seriously.”
The boss may know that the gossip is a habitual liar and that the victim HAD an excellent reputation; but if he were to investigate the matter and question people about it, the sensational nature of the gossip could quickly become impossible to keep awat from the public. So if the victim is new or has few connections, the easiest thing is to fire him.
Gossips know whom to attack.
I know you don’t like the Bible much, but Paul (in Romans 1:28-32) makes a good point that these gossips deserve death: they destroy people’s lives.
My comment here is an extension of what you say, and I also must stick up for the people who have been ruined by false charges of perversion.
Here’s the formula:
The better you do your job –> the better your reputation –> the more jealousy over you –> the more gossip about you –> the more damage to your career.
Everyone wants to be popular; but popularity is costly.
Can you see the clear thinking you have inspired, Bob?
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Posted by Bob in Bob, Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 02/25/2007
Ten of them this time, and great ones!
WOL was just me talking, and the blog started that way. But unlike Mommy Professor, and unlike most old men, Bob has been evolving steadily. We went into seminar mode. Now most of my entries are titled with the name of the commenter who got me going.
Hopefully you think this shows humility on my part. Actually it shows PRIDE on my part. My BUSINESS, the BUSINESS I got paid for, is knowing people. I AM a people, gang! I know very well the rut that a person my age gets into. The old guy becomes the Authority: “Children should be seen, not heard,” and every year the old guy’s idea of the age at which one ceases to be a child goes up.
Not Ole Bob. I have completely lost track of the ages of commenters.
I got a kick out of Basso Profundo’s reply to my saying I had stomped on him, which amounted to “You stomped WHO, Whitaker?”
Pain, with whom I have spoken a few times so I know he was born when I was middle aged, jumped on me saying that the Soviet Empire was the greatest tyranny ever known. Good point, Pain, but I did think about that before I wrote it. The one that you are referring to is not KNOWN. If it were, much of OUR job would already be DONE. The Soviet Empire was a part of it, and I am still proud of having done some surgery to cut THAT piece of its anatomy off.
I understand Mark’s frustration. He has been boycotting me, and I don’t like it at all, which is one reason he is doing it. Mark, I was in the same mood many, many times. If I could get people out there FIGHTING, we could rip the antis to pieces. But this is all I HAVE, Mark, this is more energy than the doctor tells me I should be expending. Give me a BREAK, man!
I NEED Sarge and I’m not too proud to say so.
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