AFKAN just wrote an 1864 word long defense of defeatism as Wisdom. The Mantra is 230 words long.

He gives examples of failures in history. He quotes Charlie Brown and points out that Charlie Brown kept gong after that football. He talks about AMWAY rallies.

What gets me is the sheer amount of WORK he put into this. I can’t positive commenters to put their delicate hands on copy and pasting 230 words, but a defeatist will fight like a fiend, on and on and on.

I mentioned the fellow I thought Mr. Webb might be. He would fight tirelessly for defeatism.

And AFKAN WROTE half of this. The less-than-half was quoting my entire article against defeatism, contradicting it line for line.

He also concluded that no realist COULD have a smile on his face.

Actually, any realistic doctor in 1850, 1900 1950 or 2000 would have had a smile on his face if he had known the real future of his field. In every area I mentioned, I would have had a smile on my face if I had know the USSR would fall or the hereditarian view on race would get to the point that, as noted in LIBERAL publications, no one even bothers to try to refute it anymore. They may say it shouldn’t be mentioned, but the argument against it is over.

I would have had a smile on my face in the 1950s had I known that the old method of choosing children was doomed. That is the area on which anti-whites have put ALL their cards.

I smile when I know that I can NOW talk about what the world OWES the white race. It used to be all abut individuals, but the black reparations movement has opened a fatal gap in their ranks. It will be fatal when we stop writing thousand-word treatises on defeatism and take a look at the REAL world.

The argument over the wisdom and usefulness of defeatists used to be covered by the military law imposed on someone who was spreading defeatism in the ranks.

They were shot.

One should carefully examine all previous defeats. One should look at all possible scenarios of defeat in the future. But no force ever won any war, political or military, by calling defeatism “realism.”

AFKAN is wasting a huge talent and the work WE need in a very pointless way.

I wish I could be inspiring enough to channel a FRACTION of the dedication people put into defeatism for OUR cause.

Mr. Webb may be a guy I worked with for many, many years.

Finally he became a complete Jewish Supremacist, shouting, “Resistance is useless!”

Then he came up with a newspaper scheme that would make him some money. He tried to sell it to us. He would start with how hopeless everything was with the same story of a card shark, and how the Jews were geniuses and cheated, too, so all was lost.

It was the same spiel, over and over.

BUT, he said, if someone would pay for him to start a local newspaper, all could be won. It was a good scheme, as all such schemes sound, but he had no newspaper experience, and, as I say, I have been through my share of world-saving schemes that also make money.

His first theme, like Mr. Webb’s, was that all is lost unless we buy him a newspaper. If you don’t accept his scheme he is a fanatical defeatist, a fighting, insulting, total defeatist like Webb.

Most people go through that stage early and outgrow it. I had the Only True Way disease a few times myself. But I didn’t try to discourage my whole side to get them to go along. This guy’s second childhood seems permanent.

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And a man with as big a mouth as you, MrWebb should certainly have an alternative plan to Bob’s. Can we hear it — or is all you have just the same bullshit? Come on, man — tell us your plan to topple the big bad media. Come on! Tell us Already!

Or can you?

Mark

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Mark, if Webb DOES come up with a plan and somebody agrees with it, that person will become what Mr. Webb calls a “heel-clicking follower.” So Webb, like all defeatists, has a perfectly good excuse to do nothing.

http://www.nationalsalvation.net/

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Bob, do you have any idea how handy and helpful this new site is? I really like
the way it’s laid out. Bob’s Mantra and so much other great stuff in such an easy
to explore format. I’m going to spread www.nationalsalvation.net far and wide and
hope everybody else here does the same. A lot of people could actually learn how to
think as a result of this.

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It’s WONDERFUL!

I have wanted to pick out my ideas that really matter and put them down this way, but I can’t do it. You know how hard it is for you to edit your own writing.

It takes another mind on my own level to do this. If someone wants to start on this blog,

www.nationalsalvation.net is better than looking at the blog itself

You may want to make some suggestions abut it yourself. Don’t make Dave work ALONE. I am embarrassed to have ignored it for so long, and my apologies.

I left off answering Mr. Webb because I didn’t think it was necessary. Then, when I did, Papillon said that she was tearfully glad I did.

I am not doing a very good job here.

When someone comes on with nothing but defeatism and personal insults and you take it seriously, I have failed. Some of my commenters did defend me, which is what one does for a friend when he is insulted, but the fact that this crap impressed someone disappoints me to the extreme.

AFKAN just came up with a list of the great power Jews have, and says that proves they are THE Enemy on whom we must concentrate. Mr. Webb kept talking abut how powerful the media were, and how hopeless it is to come up against them.

I seem to be the only person here who lived through the 1980s. The power that AFKAN ascribes to the Jews in the United States was paltry compared to the power the Soviet Empire had inside its borders. ALL criticism of government was banned, and the name of the tiny publications put out by starving Russians were called samizdat — “self-publications” — which were by definition illegal.

Now here is the important point: EVERY SINGLE professional Sovietologist absolutely agreed with AFKAN and Mr. Webb on this. NOT ONE of the people we paid even hinted that the Soviet Empire would collapse in the last century. Even Science Fiction books by anti-Communists, like The Mote in God’s Eye, predicted a permanent USSR.

PLEASE don’t tell about that college professor you heard abut who predicted that collapse. He doesn’t EXIST. If you discussed any internal collapse, every single expert would do what AFKAN and Webb do; they would just point at the power of Moscow and shout you off the stage.

That happened within my lifetime. That happened LESS than twenty years ago. In 1992, if Perot had not been a nutcase, the polls showed that he was out front and gaining. That was less than fifteen years ago.
So here we are again. The Knowledgeable Ones are explaining to me, AGAIN, that one group is very, very powerful, so “Resistance is Useless!”

And some bloggers STILL listen to them!

I’ve fought alone a long time. At least I now have SOME people with me.

http://www.nationalsalvation.net/

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While this is an interesting post, I don’t think it has a solid point. You seem to dislike it when people marry for love and when people marry for money. You say they should marry solely for aesthetics. But aesthetics is something you get used to — that’s why it’s discussed as only as a mere preference. You get used to what your partner looks like — this is why ugly people look less ugly as you become more familiar with them. The parents don’t seem to care what their children look like since they are acquainted with them from birth. And I have never any non-white say, “I wish I were white.”

Just for fun, I searched Google: 898 results for “I wish I were white” — 253 or so results for “I wish I were black” and 248 for Asian to put it in context.

If you grow up looking a certain way, you cannot imagine looking differently, nor would you seriously want to, unless you were a Semite in the Third Reich.

P.S. Are the browns in Brazil really going crazy over the blonds in Brazil because they are blond or because they look “exotic”? (Like the inverse of what we think of exotic here).

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All the old crap in one package.

“You seem to dislike it when people marry for love and when people marry for money. You say they should marry solely for aesthetics. ” Yes, and if you criticize Jews, you are a Nazi, right? I said that if you sell out your race, you are prostituting yourself. Money is not forever, miscegenation is. We are talking about women who prefer white looks but are willing to have permanently ugly offspring for money.

Think a little there, Al.

And the old one abut how exotic is beautiful! I’ve heard THAT one all my life! Bay Watch was a worldwide favorite, whoever was exotic. There is no evolutionary justification for blondes except to compete on looks. Peacock males would not have that fan if they were fighting for bare survival against other species.

Thank a little, there, Al.

“If you grow up looking a certain way, you cannot imagine looking differently, nor would you seriously want to, unless you were a Semite in the Third Reich.”

You just pointed out that people WANT to be white.

Are you thinking AT ALL, Al?

AFKAN and Mr. Webb gave me about the same comment today. Like the guy who sent the PM saying he would deign to speak to me if I gave the right answer, they want to know WHO is the group that is running the world. Mr. Webb says it’s someone called the media and AFKAN says it’s the Jews.

I have been where a lot of power is, and the world just isn’t BUILT that way.

I have said before that if you want lots of financial advice, just go to a bar, find a guy who is nursing his rink because he can’t afford another, and buy him lots of liquor. He will tell you all abut money. He will tell you all the people with money have a conspiracy gong. He will tell you how, if he had some money, he would quickly to a billionaire.

Advice from people who actually HAVE money, and especially those who MAKE money, is a little harder to come by. It also is not as appealing as the broke drunk’s advice was. The broke drunk has 1) a quicky formula or 2) He explains why it isn’t your fault you’re not rich.

In other words, he tells you why 1) it’s easy, or 2) it’s hopeless. Either way, it takes the burden completely off of you.

People who have actually had to deal with either money or power cannot sympathize with you if you think it’s hopeless, and are not about to tell you it is easy.

Speaking of easy, I am getting bored with Mr. Webb’s substituting insults for thoughts. He has not had one single useful concept and every post includes a personal insult. I am good about allowing this kind of childish behavior, but I am not going to keep on flouting my tolerance at the expense of ideas.

Something else you will not gain money or power by doing is substituting nastiness for thought.

I cannot tell exactly what Mr. Webb IS saying. He seems to be upset that 1) I am not saying the media are all-powerful, and that 2) for that reason, we are doomed.

Why is it that people fight so desperately or defeatism? I don’t mean that some are discouraged from time to time; I mean that some people in our movement are nothing less than defeatist fanatics. Their entire energy goes into saying how hopeless it all is. If you say anything encouraging, they react as if you had called their mother a whore.

All this comes, of course, in the form of dedication to the cause. I think that is sincere. The defeatists want someone to blame for their frustration. Mr. Webb talks about the media, but he is really blaming me. I am his demon in human shape, on whom he can take out all his hates and frustrations. This is, I realize after decades of dealing with this phenomenon, routine. Defeatism is always personal. It comes with personal insults and fury.

S the first appeal of defeatism is that it gives a chance to take your anger out on someone who will LISTEN to you. You join with other pro-whites, so you are part of the crowd. Then you blame THEM for what makes you furious.

The second appeal defeatism has is that you don’t have to DO anything. You just show that you FEEL for the Cause, and you have been betrayed by it. But since all is lost, the last think you are obligated to do is act.

Defeatism is appealing for third reason. It is easy to argue. “Look how big they are and how small we are.” Yu then quote every single argument THEY make on this point.

“The enemy’s best asset is not the troops in his own ranks but the defeatists in yours.”

In Ben Franklin’s Autobiography he talks about a man in Philadelphia he called The Mourner. No matter what happened, the Mourner said all was lost. Franklin said he was happy The Mourner paid twice as much for the house he wanted because he had been predicting the whole city was lost when he could have bought it.

ME:

There is a lot of work I can no longer do. I had to plow through 424 items this morning looking for your NO SPAM. I can’t get “Peter” off of every entry. I keep getting good advice as to how, if I had unlimited energy, I could take care of these things.

Pain has taken the trouble to set out a set of my ideas here, and how they interconnect. This is being done wonderfully on the national salvatin site, but I can’t even cite it here. Somebody give it to me again, and I’ll keep repeating it.

Shari just went back and tried to find one of HER comments. It is terribly frustrating here, and she didn’t succeed either. I am not betraying you or ignoring you. I’m just worn out and an old man trying to deal with a new technology besides.

Bitching and feeling betrayed is a hell of a lot easier than doing what needs to be done.

I have set out my means of spreading ideas . I get someone telling me it would all be better if we owned CBS or did something else UNSPECIFIED to control the media, and that I have not talked about what I have talked about. I am supposed to go back and argue it all again.

Thank you, Pain, this was constructive. If anyone wants to add to what Pain says or correct him on points I would DEEPLY appreciate it. I have something specific to offer you, and not a lot of energy to go back through all the Stormfront arguments.

PAIN:

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“One commenter says institutions are all corrupt. Anther says fiddle-faddle, that is absurd. This is an excellent example of getting away from what I THINK I have to teach you.”

I think you earlier said that we need to focus less on institutions because they scatter our energies in different directions. Instead we should concentrate our energies into the one issue that matters: race.

I think you also have been making commentary on the patterns in which institutional corruption effects the race. Aryan religion tends to question whether life is worth living, it sometimes decides it is not and then adopts policies of sterility — since life or “the flesh” is bad. Such sterility is harmful for the race.

Then I think you said that such sterility led to the particular policies of the Roman Church to forbid priests to marry, and since the priesthood was made up of the best and the brightest, this was dysgenic for the race.

Furthermore, excessive institutional loyalty and blind obedience to authority makes men submissive, producing a homosexual personality type that will submit to anything no matter how heinous. In the Church, celibacy combined with this homosexual submissiveness and led to the abuse of boys. In the military actual sexual abuse may be less, but there is still the emasculated submissiveness. In particular you find this emasculation in the WWII generation, which for years after the war was the Silent Generation for its guilt over the atrocities they committed against our race. But this Silent Generation has since become the “Masturbation Generation” because they enjoy having their sorry egos massaged in public.

This is how I understand what you have been saying about institutions, Bob, so if I got it wrong it should give you some more material to write on.

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