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Sorry, I’ve been saying what I would have had you never been born.
Shari
ME:
From constantly apologizing, Shari has advanced to become one of my star pupils.
I wonder if “pupil” is the right word. “Participant” sounds too Politically Correct. But my definition of a “good student” at this level is selfish. That is, I don’t need an elementary schoolchild or college student to repeat what I say. I need someone to give ME some keys to new thinking.
Just as the person who shuts “liar” is not to be believed, just as the person who shouts “Hate!” is the one whose life revolves around hatred, it is the person like Webb, who offers The Only True Approach, who must destroy all other approaches but his own, who talks the most abut “heel-clickers.”
I am running out of enthusiasm. After fifty years of concentrated effort, I have the right to do so. I haven’t been able to explain this to myself, but Shari just did. Over and over and over I keep pointing out that I do not KNW the future. But that is where I am valuable. I am perfectly aware that I do not know the future, and that anyone who thinks he does, INCLUDING THE PESSIMIST, is a damned fool.
I believe this is the ONLY place where you will find a Prophet of Doom denounced as as much an idiot as a Pollyanna Prophet. It isn’t optimism that makes these people stupid, it’s presuming to know the future. If a pessimist did any OTHER prophesying, everybody would laugh in his face.
So comment after comment here, and even more SF stuff, ends with the cry, “We have to act before it is TOO LATE!” This is dramatic, make the writer sound sincere, and, since it is part of the All Is Lost bit, nobody laughs in his face for saying he’s a prophet. Only if you have lived through dozens of Historical Inevitables the way I have does the person who says that seem to have donkey ears and a tail.
But I am NOT going to ARGUE this. Crying in your soup has become far too much a Sign of Wisdom in our Old Testament Prophet-based society for me to contradict it.
So let’s get back to Shari’s statement. For once, someone noticed what I had been saying all along and USED it as a LESSON. It reminded me what I brought up designer children FOR. It was NOT a PROPHECY, it was a POSSIBILITY. It was a sample of the entire world that Doom Prophets and their acolytes never think of.
So, as Shari shrewdly noticed, JUST when I NEEDED her to, Shari reminded us that the conversation went right where it would have gone on Stormfront. Instead of any of us, INCLUDING ME, remembering designer children is something that WILL influence the future, which is a complete wild card in the Doomsayers’ certainty; the debate began over Traditional Families and the probability that Bob’s Prophecy would become reality.
That’s STORMFRONT stuff, gang! And it wasn’t Bob but SHARI who caught us at it!
James Kelso and Don Black not only d fine job of running Stormfront, the growth of which is scaring liberal and conservative pants to an interesting yellow color, but Kelso takes care of US, too! F we are duplicating SF, it’s time t fold our tents and get the hell out.
I do not want to discuss Family Values. I want to open LIFT OUR EYES. I do not want to debate what would be debated had I never been born. This blog is your only chance to discuss things that CAN happen.
Everybody else is telling us we need to move to Alaska or Idaho or fund a local paper, or do what HITLER did. They are all fighting the last war. That’s a hell of a lot more fun than the work of thinking about the next one.
Unlike most people. I LIKE intellectual work.
http://www.nationalsalvation.net/
#1 by Dave on 04/05/2007 - 1:13 pm
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Forecasting and prophecy are two entire different things.
For example, there is no prophecy of the weather. However, there is early detection. Early detection is what a forecast is.
I count BW as a particularly talented forecaster. He is skilled in early detection and an outstanding practitioner of textured thought.
With the Internet, the gatekeepers (e.g., the NY and University publishers) lost their monopoly and are no longer able to block the best minds from being published.
Accordingly, the Internet greatly advantages those who care about and have the skills for detecting the best minds, textured thought, and evidence.
It is through textured thought that new evidence is brought to light. It is the very process of science.
Orthodoxy is the enemy of science and if you want to understand what I mean by textured thought, consider the quote below from Orwell. It expresses the opposite of textured thought:
“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?… Has it ever occurred to you, Winston, that by the year 2050, at the very latest, not a single human being will be alive who could understand such a conversation as we are having now?…The whole climate of thought will be different. In fact, there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking—not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness”
— Syme, in George Orwell’s 1984
#2 by Mark on 04/05/2007 - 6:32 pm
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Off subject. I had a thought today — have you ever noticed how when the USA becomes involved in a war we end up bringing over thousands of people from the country we have just fought to live here as citizens? What’s up with that?
Mark
#3 by Pain on 04/05/2007 - 9:20 pm
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The Reagan Revolution was the last great high water mark. How instructive is that without refighting that one too, Bob?
On this one you should really have MUCH to tell us.
#4 by Al Parker on 04/05/2007 - 11:32 pm
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AFKAN is going to be a bit disappointed by this one.
But my question is: How is a migration idea part of the “last war”? Yes, the Jews did it, but white gentiles have never similarly done it.
Are you not excited about the idea because you know that whites will never do anything so drastic? I mean, what whites value these days uber alles is material possessions and comfort. They probably won’t trade them for anything and will only take action when these things are threatened. Also, related to this, whites are generally “soft” — the alpha gene that has conquered and warred has largely disappeared from the white race. Now, non-whites conquer us because we are too lazy to do our own work.
(But by their materialistic nature, most white or non-white-but-assimilated parents would want to spend the extra money on Beautiful White Children.)
I think if the migration ever happened, it would probably look like a white form of Zionism — only substantially materializing as the result of massive anti-white actions — but it would only last a number of years, falling apart in a South Africa sort of way because of a lack of a fundamental change in Weltanschauung in whites.
Do you see things that way too, Bob? I would say as you say that no reply constitutes an answer. 😉
Al Parker
#5 by mderpelding on 04/06/2007 - 12:13 am
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Funny thing,
we are masters at understanding cause and effect.
Straight line thinking.
Our worldview is in many ways predicated upon it.
After all, we harnessed energy, didn’t we. Something never done before.
Based on the assumption of “intelligent design” no less.
The world works according to certain rules.
We have problems with the idea of “chaos”.
That is why so many of us take comfort in the idea of predestination.
But…politics assumes chaos.
Because politics is concerned with people and not things.
But we live in the era of “Scientism”. Cause and effect.
Straight line thinking. Socialism.
Humans can be manipulated as raw material just as steel or carbon.
This is the ghastly world we live in.
Politics is an art. Not science.
“Political Science” is an oxymoron.
Sometimes I think that if we were as “politically” profficient as we were “technically” profficient we wouldn’t be facing extinction.
#6 by Mark on 04/06/2007 - 8:22 am
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“I am running out of enthusiasm. After fifty years of concentrated effort, I have the right to do so.”
Not so long ago I felt I had the right to do so as well; I even boycotted WOL for a bit; until my teenage daughters started “correcting me” on my anti-negro stance, and even my Oh-So-Stupid-and-ew-t.v.-indoctrinated-Wife (yes I know that’s a tad mean of me to say) did the same. It’s not time to run, Bob, it’s time to dig in and do whatever it takes to win. Even if it means screaming at people fighting the “old war.” The old warrior fights the old war because no one has shown him a new war to fight.
And if you don’t think so, just ask yourself this: If more whites had had the balls to fight alongside you (way back before I was ever born) would there be so many dead, mutilated whites being murdered by our “colored cousins?” in this country and abroad?
Forgive me for ranting, but I recently re-read the nigger-on-white killing of the white TN couple and it’s funny how my dislike for Lincoln’s children takes shape so early in the morning.
A very very pissed Sgt. Mark
#7 by Bob on 04/06/2007 - 11:45 am
Mark, what the hell good is a sergeant who doesn’t rant?
#8 by AFKAN on 04/07/2007 - 4:26 am
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The Artist Formerly Known As Nobody replies to Bob:
you wrote:
*snip*
Everybody else is telling us we need to move to Alaska or Idaho or fund a local paper, or do what HITLER did. They are all fighting the last war. That’s a hell of a lot more fun than the work of thinking about the next one.
Unlike most people. I LIKE intellectual work.
*end snip*
in reply:
I can’t speak to local newspapers, or the Creative National Socialist solution to the Weimar Dilemma that developed organically in Germany between 1934-1945.
I think you see the “move to Idaho” crowd as part of fighting the last war.
Hell, we were ASLEEP during the “Last War.”
We have never – since Nathan Bedford Forrest, anyway – “fought back” in any manner whatsoever hat inspired anything other than mockery and quiet contempt from our RACIAL enemies, in general, and the demonic Jews, in particular.
I’m not being “Defeatist” in the least; after all, we never took to the field of battle in any remotely substantial way.
Let’s learn from the example of our demonic RACIAL enemies, who only have our own power to use, and use it against us with rare delight.
My proposal for something along the lines of Harold Covingtons’ Northwest Republic is NOT a retreat from the last war, any more than trying to retake Detroit for our RACE is an advance.
I’m saying it is (a) NONE OF THE ABOVE, and is mentioned as a starting point to identify the Creative Solutions to the problems our RACE faces right here, right now.
Instead of acting like the CONservatives, Patriotards, and Libertariots have done for the last FITY YEARS, and bemoaning the inevitable triumph of our RACIAL Enemies in one form or another, I use Covington’s formulation as a starting point for solving these problems along the lines of an organic solution, in accordance with our RACE’s Creative Nature.
I am inspired, in part, by Mancur Olson’s model of governmental systems that become sclerotic, and ossified, because of the failure of Governance to clearly define, shape, and control the issues the social order faces. My idea of tax reform thus starts with a much simpler, much fairer system, one that is impossible to build in this society, but is easy to build into the Next Society, in our RACIAL Homeland. Corporate taxes, for instance, are simply a flat tax on all corporate purchases…
This is no more fighting yesterday’s wars, than was Brigham Young’s moving the heart of the Mormon Church, and the Mormon people, to the middle of Nowhere itself, The Great Salt Lake Basin, in 1846.
Remember, they rejected conventional models of organization, and thought FIRST in terms of RACE; Family became their watchword, and RACE became the Living Bridge between Family, and Culture.
This is one example – but, it seems rather worthwhile, and illustrative, from many perspectives.
Above all, they created a social order that served their RACE, above all, in a place where none could make afraid.
It’s that Mindset – Conquest, in the fulfillment of a shared RACIAL DESTINY, that fascinates me.
They refused to accept their RACIAL Enemy’s Definitions of who, and what, they were.
That is an excellent place for us to start.
Alex Linder nailed it when he observed that if you could take ANY state, no matter how forsaken it may seem, and make it “Whites Only,” you would see the greatest land rush in American history.
Quite inadvertantly, Linder’s point can be proven in the example of Brigham Young, and the Mormon Trek to the Great Salt Lake Basin; “Just US, and no others.”
The idea of our own Country begins with the idea of our own Nation; the idea of our own Nation begins with the acceptance of our unique RACIAL Identity, both temporally, as an extension of our Families, and spiritually, as that of a People chosen to fulfill a certain Destiny, and thereby secure the blessings for their Posterity.
If we do not have the ability to transcend our RACIAL Enemy’s definitions of Who and What we are, if we choose their Words over our Ideals, than we shall have allowed the termites to destroy the house from within, in the name of “tolerance” and “Christian Universalism.”
It ALL begins with RACE.