Archive for June, 2007
The example below, Hardric’s “transition from Petty politics to Racial Politics” represents EXACTLY what I am trying to produce here.
Someone made a joke about whitakerism since I object so much to a Wordist Whitakerism. But as I was on the trip to New York playing possum in the back of the van, someone said something and then said proudly, “Now THAT’S Whitaker thinking!”
I realized that what I am trying to get to here is Whitaker thinking. A Whitakerism would exclude OTHER thoughts, as Wordism always does. But Whitaker thinking can be used by an evolutionist or a creationist, by either of just about any two sides in a discussion.
Hardric gave a new phrase to Whitaker thinking. But if you USE Whitaker thinking, you will realize that the LAST thing I want to claim is that my thinking is NEW.
Gravity was OLD when Isaac Newton was born. Ask anyone doing the work building the pyramids and he would have said, “Yes, I did notice gravity from time to time.” The Law of Displacement was in action when the only things floating on earth were on hot lava, but Archimedes came up with that explanation for floating ships billions of years later.
Occam’s Razor, that one should look for the first and simplest cause first, was in operation when the first nerve cell appeared on earth. But when the brain got a certain size, they began seeking complicated solutions first. Occam’s Razor is the basis of Western science, but it is also a return, literally, to horse sense.
Whitaker thinking is no substitute for knowledge or experience. It is an ADDITION.
The gravitational system of Newton is SIMPLE, but it is not EASY. Europe’s greatest minds were still finding its implications and working out its mathematics for a century afterwards. You can state the Laws of Physics in a few sentences, but it takes a little longer to become a physicist.
Whitaker thinking is probably a subset of Occam’s Law in social areas. But its implications goon and on, and it is not based on faith. When a subject comes up, you can try it. If it doesn’t fit, screw it. Don’t try to cram the universe into it.
I am going to try to give some of the basic rules of Whitaker thinking. I am sure it took Occam a long time to figure his objections to Scholastic Philosophy down to one sentence, and I am not even sure HE is the one who did it.
SOME rules of Whitaker thinking are:
1) WHY did that person say ANYTHING? We know to ask that about commercials, but we seem to go blank about it in everyday life;
2) LISTEN to what a person says and SEE all the assumptions he is making. For two generations we have heard people demand immigration into ALL white countries and ONLY white countries all our countries. We have heard the question asked routinely asked, “Is Eastern Europe READY for immigration YET?” But only with Bob’s Mantra did the IMPLICATIONS of this thinking get targeted.
There are lots more. Some are below, and I will be going into more with more specificity. But by now I should NOT be doing this ALONE.
Hardric has comeup with one of those lines that only appear HERE!
“… the transition from Petty Politics to Racial Politics…”
That is DYNAMITE!
There is one problem with this whole discussion.
The concepts of left and right and liberal and conservative and republican and democrat all have NO MEANING. If you are still discussing our political/existential situation in those terms you are STILL part of the problem.
All those above terms are meaningless and deadly in a multiracial polity. You have minorities practicing racial politics behind the facade of unity politics.
Ah, yes, the political terminology of yesteryear. We can, nevertheless, in this transition period from Petty Party Politics to Racial Politics, use these terms to suit our needs. Conservative? If you want to categorize verbose fools of the William Buckley School, include a racial adjective and an additional: “Respectable White Conservative Fools.” Bring race into the picture.
Are you a Respectable White Conservative Fool? Nice to meet you, anytime you want to get serious about the future we must have a chit chat.
Thanks, Hardric, for getting us out of the swamp.
I talked about the swamp before. What I have to say here is difficult to explain. So when someone starts critiquing the only language I have at my disposal, all it does is trip me up. I end up neck-deep in the swamp, off track.
It is like when I try to explain the nature of power as I understand it, which is my function in BUGS, and somebody informs me that the other side is very large and very powerful or gives me another lecture about how this is a RACIAL struggle or any of a hundred ways to sound profound and get the discussion off track.
Our problem with Stormfront is that it is at least 90% swamp.
WE cannot do anything about the white birth rate, so Al’s telling me we might as well close up shop if whites don’t have more children is pure swamp stuff. It’s certainly a concern. The question is whether it is a concern that we should deal with HERE, or is it just taking attention off of what we CAN do something about?
Just a couple of entries back, in “An Intellectual Exercise: Why Money Doesn’t Buy Power” I went over some of the basic ways of thought I am trying to inculcate here. Now that the seminar is carrying itself I am free to go back over the basics that have developed here.
Before the Masturbation Generation, slogans like Peace and Freedom and Anti-Racism met solid criticism. Only with the screaming Jews of the sixties were grownups able to use phrases like this freely in America. Screaming Peace and Freedom was the hallmark of the Love Generation that used to call families of troops in Nam and tell them falsely that their son had been killed in action and other Love-like actions.
I reached my twenties in the 60s so that period is fresh in my mind. It was everything hateful and stupid proclaimed as Idealism. And I SAW where it was going.
And the simple rule here is that the question is NEVER “What is wrong with Love and Brotherhood?” The question is “What is wrong with MY VERSION of Love and Brotherhood?”
FORTY YEARS LATER, Bloomburg, a former media insider, explained this attitude in his book “Bias.” Bloomburg said that the media moguls don’t gather together each morning and say, “What will we do for our leftist agenda today?”
They don’t know it’s an agenda. More specifically, and more correctly, they don’t know there is any OTHER agenda but their own. To them, there is either gun control or gun nuts. There is no QUESTION that there is a QUESTION.
Which is why we use the Mantra. The Mantra begins where people ARE. People in general are not aware that there IS a question when it comes to white survival. Most conservatives are exactly like the media when it comes to liberalism: There is either goodness or evil racism.
Since the total wimp-out of the Masturbation Generation our first job is to remind the world that there ARE questions. As Dave points out, Political Correctness is nothing but bullying, and the Masturbation Generation with it World War II obedience training allowed bullies to take over completely.
Point 1 is that we must now concentrate on standing on our feet and making it clear that there IS another side. But there is a second step.
From now on NO ONE can be allowed to use words like brotherhood and nonviolence and peace without being faced down. They MUST use the words, “what IN MY OPINION is love, brotherhood, nonviolence, anti-racism.” Those three words would make political debate SANE.
You cannot make a living as a respectable conservative if you ask, “What IS racism?” I have heard the question asked, but no one EVER presses for an answer. “Racism” is an in dispensable part of the Politically Correct bullying process. To question it is to DESTROY it.
Today only respectable conservatives stand between Political Correctness and its destruction. The day that the forces of Political Correctness are forced to use the three words IN MY OPINION is the day PC will become history.
My cell phone store is less than a block from the church where my parents were buried, in 1958 and 1961 respectively. As I was looking at the graves and the house my father built in memory of my mother for the church, I thought abut the cell phone on my belt.
As I walked out of the store with the cell phone on my belt, I remembered very well when my parents and I saw a real technological advance in personal communication: WE went from an eight-party line to a private line.
I remember that we couldn’t use the phone if any of the other seven parties were on the line. I remember that, in order to call anyone ELSE on the party line, and everyone else was at least a mile away, you dialed 1191and hung up the phone. It rang for all seven others and you waited until the ringing stopped and got on the line and you might have four different people who had answered. You talked to the one you were calling and the others hung up.
So the private line was quite an advance.
In a huge house there would be ONE telephone, as you can see in all the old movies. A separate phone meant a separate line, and that was an extravagance even the rich didn’t consider worth having.
I then went by the church to check on the graves and look at the building my father built in memory of my mother, which is now the Boy Scout meeting place. It looks better and will last longer than the ten-year old new church building and will be fifty years old next year. But the brick and the brick work is, needless to say, the best there is.
As for the graves, I had stood in the same spot for two funerals in a time I remember so well and that everyone else has forgotten. Practically nothing that people said in 1959 and 1961 is remembered today. But practically everything that we take for granted today is based on that FORGOTTEN thinking.
But for now let’s stick with the contrast between my cell phone and the modern 1950s miracle of private lines out in Pontiac, SC.
I was just watching a modern version of the old scifi show “The Outer Limits” on the Sci-Fi Channel This 1980s version still has, “We are in control of your television set. We control the horizontal. We control the vertical.”
I have a disk of “The Simpson’s Halloween Special” that has the same take-off with the same words in one episode, “Do not adjust your television….We control the vertical. We control the Horizontal.”
The obvious question to anyone born after 1960 would, “What the HELL is the horizontal and the vertical?” People know abut THAT, but they don’t remember any of the thinking of that same period.
Do you remember that the old “Police Squad” movies starring Leslie Nielsen had OJ Simpson as his sidekick Nordberg? When it was on television about 1980, “Police Squad” had, as a joke, the words, “Police Squad — IN COLOR!” A quarter century after my parents were buried this was still familiar enough to be joke, since by then all shows had long since been in color. But neither of my parents ever saw a color TV show.
When my parents were buried, you could not take your driver’s license exam in a car that had an automatic shift. You had to bring a car that had the “real” three forward gears on the steering wheel.
Eight years before my parents died, you could not drive anywhere without knowing exactly where Charlotte, North Carolina was. It had the only television station anyone could get from Columbia until after 1950 and you had to have a tower on top of your house to get it. On top of everything from mansions to shacks there was a metal tower aimed straight at Charlotte.
About the time our eight-party line became private all three networks set up stations in Columbia.
In 1953 I acquired my first amateur radio license. I had a hundred-foot wire antenna stretched and I could, using Morse Code, converse with other people, all by myself, in Tennessee and North Carolina with ease. But that took LOTS of work to get a special license and you built the station yourself. But at that time, I was one of the few people in my area who knew ham radio existed, much less having a license.
Today I am one of less than half a dozen people in South Carolina who has an Alcor bracelet on my am to be frozen at death. The idea of being “brought back” today from freezing is less absurd than a heart transplant when I buried my father, who died of a heart attack that would make him an outpatient today.
The idea of a WhitakerOnline where I cannot tell what CONTINENT a person is writing contrasts with my very advanced hundred-foot antenna.
So Whitaker Online is written in terms of a century when a modular man will be routine, a human being who will simply replace ANYTHING that wears out.
I remember that, into the middle 1950s, my father would sometimes say to me, “Bobby, go over to the Rosses and tell them …” and my mother would always remind him, “Whit, we have a PHONE for that.”
The Rosses lived exactly 1.1 miles away.
My parents are buried at that Methodist Church because that was their community. It was and had been for a thousand years the only place where adults CAME TOGETHER every week for anything but work.
I will not be buried. I come together with those who share my beliefs DAILY. And this is just the beginning.
If you think you can conduct politics or religion or anything else the same way now as you did then, maybe you need a long rest.
You can buy a Krupp.
You can’t buy a Hitler.
Put another way:
An expert postulates the existance of “A.”
This expert builds a machine to sense “A.”
The machine dutifully senses “A.”
The expert wins public accolade because he has proven the existance of “A.”
The above is the template for most modern science of any sort.
Political, social, biological, whatever.
Lots of people know who Hitler is.
How many recognize Krupp?
Anyone with real skills in science and research is unlikely to succumb to any type of bullying.
Political Correctness is a brand of bullying, that’s all it is.
There are two types of bullies. The first type is narcissistic. These are essentially juveniles (regardless of age) who are easy to defeat. This is because they don’t even know where power begins and are never realistic about what is actually going on.
The second type of bully is a realist. They are several orders harder to deal with. They are absolutely cynical and hard headed in everything they do. These are the true promoters of Political Correctness and any form of “correctness” will do for them.
The “Greatest Generation” had no street smarts, was favored by an affluence that was not of their doing, and accordingly was easy prey for the second type of bully. If life were harsher for them, they would have been more prone to stand up to the second type of bully.
I think one of the greatest mistakes that revolutionaries continually make is failure to accurately identify the second type of bully for attacks.
A policy of attacking only the truly guilty is critical and tragically almost always ignored.
As an experienced old man, I have a set of basic rules about human behavior which are useful for anyone to take into account. That is what I want you to absorb.
Let’s take “money buys power” and run it through my way of thinking:
1) A person who has little or no money will tell you all about how rich people get rich;
2) A person without power will be glad to explain to you about where all the power is, who has it, and how they got it.
3) A person who has neither power nor money will tell you that money = power.
4) NOW TO A REALLY BASIC RULE OF LIFE:
Any opinion which is explicable is probably WRONG.
We take this for granted every time we watch a commercial or an infomercial: This person is trying to sell me something, so he is not being completely truthful with me.
But since our Obedience Training in World War II, this rules ends right there. We have things called “professional objectivity” and “peer review,” both of which should make a rational person laugh out loud.
A lawyer or a doctor may not be trying to SELL you a specific product, but they have a very definite idea about WHO should end up with a huge share of the money and power. Social science professors are the same way.
In fact, my main view of the future is a battle I talked about in my first book over thirty years ago, but which no one is aware is developing. It is the war between social science and hard science.
This latter combines my rule on EXPLICABLE opinions versus simple truth. We all know that hard science is pretty reliable (Pace SysOps) until it begins to conflict with social science. Then the “scientist” who wants to keep his job bends over backwards and lies with absolute shamelessness. That is because the only excuse social scientists have for demanding power and money is their doctrine of Political Correctness, and since professors rule campuses, it has been easy for hard science to stay out of PC’s way.
Until now. But the power to bring endless life and happiness, once the province of the theologians and now the province of Political Correctness and Marxism or Libertarianism is becoming REAL. And hard science will have it.
It is as simple as that.
Just as science could not continue under the rigid rule of theologians, it cannot go ahead under the rules of PC. The conflict is just in a few areas now, and is hardly noticed. But what makes the future is NEVER noticed in the present.
Which leads us back to anther basic thought: Opinions which are EXPLICABLE are not true. Which is why the field of Futurology is a bad joke. What does Futurology EXPLAIN? Does it have anything to do with explaining the FUTURE?
Of course not! Futurology depends on funding and publication TODAY. A professional Futurologist must predict a future which will hit the mass media and appeal to the “peer review” committees that give out money TODAY. All Futurist predictions are explicable in those terms. I gave you a good example of this by telling you why demography is known among sane economists as “panic science.” Population predictions that make it to the media and produce movies like Soylent Green get fame and funding,
And this leads me back to the original subject. Why does money NOT buy power? For the exact same reason that Futurology money produces nothing but misinformation about the real future. Funding produces experts who tell rich people how to influence “the people,” but those “people” are as alien to real people as any E.T. They are “the people” Marxists talk abut, “the people” professors talk about, and therefore “the people” that the rich believe in. Just how many members of “the working class” she has talked about all her life has Jane Fonda ever LISTENED to?
This rule was stated LONG before Bob discovered it: “No one ever tells the truth to a rich man or a beautiful woman.”
Presbyterians, Lutherans, United Methodists, they all laughed at the “holy rollers.”
But my father would point out to them that THEY began the same way. John Calvin and John Knox were shouters who brought their audiences into terror and tears. John Wesley yelled for sixty years, and even the hardened Welsh coalminers were rolling and crying.
I seriously doubt that Peter and Paul limited themselves entirely to quiet, sermonic reasoning in their hey-day.
My analysis of religion begins precisely where the theologian’s should end. My analysis of religion or any other ideological institution is pure heresy to most adherents of the Faith, because I know that most of it, be it Christian, libertarian or Communists, is exactly the same. CS Lewis said there was only one required Christian belief, the Resurrection. Thought JRR Tolkien was very upset at Lewis for becoming a Catholic after Tolkien had had so much to do with his conversion from atheism, the fact that the pope require belief in the Immaculate Conception for Salvation in 1870, after saints had argued over it for so long, was enough all by itself to keep Lewis outside the Pope’s jurisdiction.
Theologians qualify for their jobs by knowing all about the Old Testament, the Igubrian language translation of the Vermillion and the Syphilitic Monstrance.
According to Gospel, Jesus knew all that crap when he was twelve years old. Twenty years later, when his mission was serious, he was out reducing things to parables. Yes, he did say ONCE that he did not come to supplant the Law and the Prophets, so the Church put them on the same par with the Final Truth. Had Jesus said anything else, he would have been stoned to death n the spot.
And when his enemy’s asked him about paying Roman taxes he said that the right of Caesar to his property was as important as God’s right to his – if you translate his words the way the churches do on the Testaments.. Same reason: anything else and he would have been stoned on the spot.
So why are professional theologians so nuts about the Old Testament? Because you would have a hard time making a living out of what JESUS said. It is no accident that it was the Old Testament theologians who got him crucified.
All ideologies and all religions are ninety-nine percent the same. That is MY area of expertise, the development of HUMAN institutions, HUMAN politics. Theologians would like to lynch ANYBODY who exposed that fact the way Christ did.
Another thing I’ve noticed when spreading the word is the effectiveness of the label ’self-hating white person’. It really puts the brainwashed on the back foot. I think it works because it strikes at the core of their sense of self-worth.
Bob, that’s the perfect soundbite right there -
“Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White countries for everybody”.
I’ll be incorporating that into the mantra, and reporting on its effectiveness
That’s why we need to work together. I hadn’t thought of it.
It would make a great title for the Mantra or a great first sentence.
COMMENTS? This is IMPORTANT!
It would make the point clear fromt he outset:
AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!
” It is said that there is this RACE problem. They say this RACE problem will be solved
when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.”
“The Netherlands and Belgium are as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or
Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote
assimilating unquote with them.”
“Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY
white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.”
“What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if
hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black
“How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am
talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?”
“And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black
man wouldn’t object to this?”
“But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the
white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
“Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”
Reply to a black guy on Stormfront:
But you are NOT dealing with the point.
In the REAL world today’s policy is “Africa for the Africans,” “Asia for the Asians, “White countres for everybody.” Out in the real world, NOBODY demands that non-white countries import ANY immigrants. Out here in the real world, ONLY Eastern European countries get asked, “Are you ready for immigration YET?”
The question is so obvious no one even WHY Eastern European leaders are
cnstantly asked this. In real world discourse it is routine:
They are WHITE and therefore the next step is third world immigration. Japan’s population fall is the worst on earth, and no one is DEMANDING, I repeat, DEMANDING that they open their high-income borders.
But to ask this of Eastern EUROPE is so rutine you haven’t even NOTICED it.
The real evils of any age are so obvious they are not mentioned and are therefore not thought about.
You are intelligent and reasobale, but you missed this blatant example of Eastern Europe being asked if it is “ready” for immigration by floating off into a little standard bubble of cliches about American immigration policy.
I believe it was Pain who summed up my discussion on the subject as “Christ Against Christianity.” I was delighted with this. It is hard for me to sum up my own thoughts, for the same reason it is hard for a writer to edit his own work. So when Pain did it and mderpelding did it below, I was delighted.
When Lord Nelson completely astonished me by simply using Mantra logic to define the white race, I LEARNED something invaluable. It had never occurred to me! Lord Nelson did not get into the muck of detail, he simply said that the white race has already BEEN defined: It is the race that makes up the countries all the antis say the third a world should be allowed to pour into.
Western genius does not come in tomes. It comes in Occam’s Razor or the Laws of Thermodynamics. I repeat, Lord Nelson’s statement is GENIUS.
If you read my 1976 book you will be mystified why it caused such an explosion. It’s all common sense now. But every child knows when you fire a gun you get an equal and opposite reaction. It is easy to miss the genius of those who first cut through all the crap and SAW this.
There were a lot of ships before the Law of Displacement was stated.
Go ahead and TALK. Ramble. Just let me say when I think you are getting off track.
And don’t be afraid to make your OWN track. This is NOT a contradiction to the swamp analogy. But like all true thinking, this has to be two-dimensional. You need to express your OWN thoughts for no reason except that they are your OWN. No loud-mouthed Jew or cranky loud-mouthed old Bob should stop you. Out in the real world, if you express yourself, you will have to face a lot worse than a snide comment from Coach.
The coach is a bit mean in training, but if he does a good job, you will get better results on the field from it. If you don’t catch SOME hell from me, I’m not doing my job.
If you don’t give ME some static, as Sarge is so good at doing, we need some waves.
The question is not how I LOOK or how you LOOK. We are here training and thinking.
I spent fifty years getting the points I have, the guts to fight it out, the willingness to go it alone. But mine has been a life of frustration. I have been teaching arithmetic to people who, as Orwell said, simply will not allow me to say that two plus two is four.
By the time my course is over, you will head on to the Calculus and to the stars.
The article below was, as is usually the case, not the one I sat down to write.
What I WAS going to write about was a sign of real progress. Then I made two regressions. First, I was going to explain that OUR message is showing up in every mainline article about the white movement. “A plot against the white race” now appears in every sneering article. It USED to be “Hate.” Now it is a crazy idea we have about this “plot against the white race.” That is a MAJOR change.
But I realized that I was going to have to wade through all the “You are looking at THAT tiny thing while we are fighting Israel’s war in Iraq” or “NEWS ITEM: Illegal aliens are flooding in’ or “This doesn’t affect the Powers That Be” and on and on and on. My point gets lost in all that muck.
Outside the blog I cannot make a point because it gets lost in the swamp of muck, stuff others want to rant on about. So I made a SECOND regression: Why is the point I am making more important than the ten thousandth repetition of a standard theme.
Well, to begin with, I made TWO regressions, two starts, before I found the NEW points I wanted to make. That should be worth something. But I wrote the article as a result of the second regression: Why should you pay special attention to the point ***I*** am trying to make?
A change in media wording certainly isn’t in the same league with someone who thinks he is going to expose and bring down a world-wide conspiracy.
How do I DARE say that my observation is so critical that you must ignore tomes of material and concentrate on it? Because I have one field of expertise, and this is a seminar on it. If you are a freshman ad the professor mentions a point, you can afford to privately obsess on it. But in a real graduate seminar, your professor is following a CHAIN OF THOUGHT. It is an IMPORTANT chain, or you would not be in his seminar.
That means I am saying that I am a valuable resource AND that your Conspiracy is not as important as my expertise. That is one HELL of a claim! So how did I get to the point where I would have the chutzpah to make a claim like that?
Which is what I ended up writing abut.
And that, boys and girls, is how a SEMINAR should be conducted. After years of trying to poke supply and demand or the fact that congress has two houses down the throats of bored, hung-over and/or horny students, he FINALLY gets a chance to talk to people who are INTERESTED in his subject and who do not have to be spoon-fed.
That’s what seminars USED to be and what MINE still is.
That means I am saying that I am a valuable resource AND that your Conspiracy is not as important as my expertise. That is one HELL of a claim! So how did I get to the point where I would have the chutzpah to make a claim like that?
Which is what I ended up writing about.
What I have to say is a result of a lot of mental WORK, as you can see. I do not APPRECIATE it when somebody decides to get off the very, very subtle and complicated track I am trying to lay out by expounding on The Grassy Knoll or something.
Today, what is called “seminar” is like any other class: You learn to repeat the Party Line. So there is no ORIGINAL anything. Your notes have everything you need to know. But HERE I am not just TEACHING. I am trying to get you to JOIN me in critical thinking. That means feeling down through all the muck and finding the POINTS.
This is not your only source of mental stimulation. You can Google up tome after tome on any subject that mucks up this intellectual swamp I am picking through. PLESE NOTE: Only HERE is Covington or evolution or anti-evolution theory an intellectual swamp. There is nothing wrong with talking biology, but you should seldom do it in a physics seminar.
What I have to say is HARD to explain. I am engaged in a seminar that results from a LIFETIME of practice. I made my living figuring this stuff out. I had to CREATE this seminar at huge expense to myself and work my doctor says is more than I should be doing.
We have changed the mass media in a way THEY are not aware of. That Village Voice article would have looked VERY different a decade ago. All the swastikas and Confederate flags are incidental to our paranoia, not the result of “Hate.” The THRUST is different.
AND it so happens that a lot more readers every day find the “plot against the white race” line a lot easier to accept.
That is a PRECIOUS bit of truth. But you can’t SEE it until you drain the intellectual swamp before you look at it.
You will read many times here my admission that I not only MADE the mistakes I criticize, but I still do and I will do the same thing in the future. If only perfect people gave advice, there wouldn’t be any.
I kept jumping all over Shari for APOLOGIZING for her very good opinions. She has quit it, and I have criticized others for the same thing before and since. But it reflects an attitude I had, so I recognize it.
“Who am I to say this?”
In fact, one of the main problems that made the 1960s was THAT attitude. It was the high mark of the loud-mouthed leftist New York Jew. A WASP who had been taught deference would be scared off by a screaming Jew. The kids learned that their obedience-trained World War II fathers had gotten a double dose of this fear of expressing their opinions. So, after watching Bella Abzug and Abbie Hoffman scare off disagreement kids learned that all they had to do was scream and his father would capitulate, fast.
It was the fact that the elders I SHOULD have been able to follow were such wimps that forced me to realize that my Southern reticence had to GO.
In my defense, let me point out that history told me I had a RIGHT to expect my elders to take out those New York Jews themselves. We had taken our state back from Reconstruction. We had taken America from the Indians and built a power. No civilization in history had ever dreamed of. The generation before the WWII wimps had passed the national origins immigration acts in 1921 and 1923.
The white man stood over the world like a Colossus. I had a hard time believing that only ***I*** could see some loud mouths needed standing up to.
From a colossus to a groveling wimp in ONE GENERATION!
The leaders I looked to were all older men, the Harry Byrd types. But no younger men came to stand in their places. It took me YEARS to realize that no one WAS coming and the Old Guard was dying out.
Every time I saw something else incredibly stupid, like the idea that bureaucrats running the economy would be efficient, socialism, I could not BELIEVE that I was the only one who did not see it as intellectualism and idealism, but as obviously pig stupid. I often had that same feeling in Washington when I was sitting (or standing by my boss) in a Committee meeting.
But I was always right and they were always NUTS. This is not an easy thing for a sane man to accept. All one of them had to do was shriek or shout how offended he or some group he said he spoke for was and the Masturbation Generation would go into grovel mode.
One man said that the Kennedy assassination will always seem to be a plot because people look for causes for big events. A little failure like Lee Harvey Oswald could not change the history of the United States. There had to be more to it.
PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME THE STANDARD CRAP ON JFK. I am trying to make a point here.
And the point is illustrated by the italicized words above. What was wrong with socialism, and what ended the Soviet Empire, was that it was SILLY.
What kept it going were CIA growth estimates which are laughable now that we have seen the pitiful ex-USSR economy and were laughable TO ME then. What kept it going was that no one pointed out that Communist countries SHOT escapees. Instead, because of leftist shrieks, we kept feeling guilty about tiny non-Communist tyrannies. Everything THEY said was what WE dealt with.
We are living in the bad dream I understood THEN. But I felt that I MUST be an extremist, that I MUST be missing something. Every extremist position I had is now accepted generally as common sense.
One miserable little generation created this nightmare. PLEASE DO NOT GIVE ME THE STANDARD CRAP ABOUT OTHER GENERATIONS’ MISTAKES. They were mistakes, not wimp-outs.
What we are reversing here is a giant wimp-out, a wimp-out that has become a HABIT in two generations.
We must reverse the wimp-out.
Christianity in it’s various forms and Marxism in IT’S various forms make natural bedfellows when viewed through the lens of a thoughtful mind. Isn’t neo-conservatism that synthesis? Likudnik collectivists and
conservative evangelicals both view their respective poetic tomes as scientific fact, don’t they?
Both Christians and Marxists seek perfection through magic. White people seek perfection through EFFORT. That is why both Christianity and Marxism should be rejected by whites. They are oriental religions.
Let us be free of eastern hocus-pocus and concentrate doing something.
Just like our distant ancestors.
We are at the edge of a historic tidal wave.
Either ride it or be swept away.
1. Mark says:
You know what’s scary, Bob? I find myself asking you a question, like about 911, or looking for an answer to a question on WOL and then, after reading your opinion I find myself saying, “Okay, Bob says such and such so the matter’s settled.”
I even caught myself telling my wife something about race or politics or something — I forget exactly — and my only argument to back it up was, “Well, hon, Bob Whitaker said so.”
I’m gonna’ have to go have my head examined….
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2. Brian says:
Ole Bob is going to slap me for this, but it means you’re a whitakerite.
This is light-hearted stuff, but it gives me a chance to define again what Wordism is.
Mark, keep in mind that what I am doing here is either wild egotism or I’ve learned a LOT of things people need to know. Over fifty years of experience, thought and pain went into it.
If I didn’t think my advice was the best you can get, I wouldn’t be doing this.
Most of what I say without pay is correcting what bureaucracies have drummed into you FOR pay. I try to explain how those bureaucracies work, and they penetrate every part of your life.
Brian, there is nothing wrong with being a whitakerite if by that you mean you learn the tricks of the intellectual trade I have developed. I always welcome correction, which a Wordist will not tolerate.
All learning is not Wordism. All intellectual habits are not Wordist. For example, I keep explaining that Guilt pays MONEY, so teaching and communications bureaucracies naturally push guilt.
Mark may NOW be a whitakerist, small w, but he will DEVELOP his own markism. Only if he becomes a Whitakerist, capitalized, will things have gone too far. A Whitakerist would look in the Book of Bob for every answer all the way t Utopia as an unimpeachable source. A whitakerist thinks about it on his own and examines the source of ANY information to the point of psychoanalysis. He figures out WHY the source, including Bob, said that in the first place.
Somebody is spending money to publish or publicize it and we want to know WHY. To us, there is no “professional objectivity.”
And “peer review” means The Party Line.
Real whitakerism is simple truth fighting millions of Truths.
Moral of the story?
Don’t worry about “the future”. Worry about doing what’s RIGHT, right now.
In fact, why worry? Just do what’s RIGHT for US.
I screwed up and accidentally put Denebor’s IP in a copy and paste. He complained and by the time I read it it was fixed.
So how does MY screw-up which somebody ELSE fixed make ME great? If you have ever managed anything, you will KNOW.
I feel especially sorry for the beginning manager who has new and none-too-bright people to deal with. They LOOK like homo sapiens, but they will come to YOU to tell you water is running out in the bathroom. You go and see that, yes, water is running in the bathroom, and they didn’t CUT IT OFF.
Two of our blacks once knocked on our front door at the plant. My brother went to the door saw a bag right in front of him and the two blacks cowering away from and they wee standing back from a bag they had placed on the porch. They were afraid it was a bomb, so they had brought it to US.
It was a bowling ball that someone had, God knows why, had left in the woods. They had carried this possible bomb half a mile to our door and THEN backed away from it. Actually, the likelihood of someone leaving a bomb in the woods was in the same range as someone leaving a bowling ball, INSIDE a bag, in the woods. They did what they always did; they brought the thing to the Whitakers to figure out.
Bless their hearts, I guess they would rather carry a potential bomb in their hands rather than ask US to go look for it. But they should have known we would rather look at it than have them risk their lives over it.
When we went out to prospect for clay, two of them would dig an auger into the ground. I would get them started by winding my finger in the air clockwise, which is the way AMERICAN augers and screws go.
I ran campaigns, where everybody was a volunteer and nobody knew what they were doing.
I have led Africans, South Americans, and white Americans. When I got people on Capitol Hill who could just DO things, I was in hog heaven.
Other people who are used to managing people who are wholly dependent get SCARED when they get somebody under them who can do it themselves. That is why coming up through the management bureaucracy, like coming up through ANY bureaucracy, is such a disaster.
I don’t need to tell most of you what it feels like to work under somebody who got his job through the management bureaucracy. No, you’re not being hypercritical. They ARE the dolts you take them for, and it could not be otherwise.
As I say, anyone HERE with management background can understand why I am so PLEASED that, in a small unpaid group like this, people just DO things. The better you are, the better I can manage you.
That makes me proud of ME.
I was an econmics professor, but I grew out of it. Demography, population study, is a branch of econmics. No long-run demographic projection has EVER been accurate. In 1900 Indians were The Vanishig Americans.
Real economists call demographics Panic Science. Demographers who get published take the population tend of the last generation, make a geometric progressin of it, and declare the world is doomed one way or another. They’re always wrong but nobody remembers it.
For example, everybody remembers the movie Soylent Green but nobody remembers that, in 1972, demographers had taken the arithmetic growth of the Boomer Generation, projected it into the future, and decided that WHITE people wuld be standing on each other’s heads in the 21st century, hence the desperate overpopulation in that movie.
That panic led to a lot of demographers becoming famous and helped cause the population bust of the 1970s. Now THAT population bust is being projected into the future by NEW famous demographers.
Demographers who START the panics are smart oportunists. People who never cease to BELIEVE them need psychiatric help.
It is not surprising that so many climatologists agree with global warming and global freezing. It is amazing that so many DISAGREE with it. After all, if you agree with Al Gore, there would be a cabinet-level job for a climatologist and a whole new Department of Climate.
By the same token, the intelligence community never did itself a bigger favor than allowing 9/11 to occur. Everyone who contributed to that disaster has been promoted, every department that failed has twice the budget ad ten times the power that it had before.
I have talked before about how other economists refer to demographics as Panic Science, since only those who take the latest population trends and expand them into a geometric progression, which ALWAYS means impending catastrophe, get famous.
The first rule in all fields is that panic pays and science is handicapped from the start. If you don’t understand this up front, you cannot evaluate any real data specialists put out,
“Professional detachment” is an oxymoron.
Alarmism rules professional opinion.
BW in this post sure does a good job of getting to the point.
I think future generations will look back to the genetic anarchy of our times and not only be appalled by the ubiquitous and humiliating buffoonery, but also horrified by the vicious evil of the orthodox dismissal of the terrible suffering of countless millions afflicted with genetically borne ailments, disfigurations, and ugliness, all in the name of some sort of religious “good”.
The religious orthodoxy of our times, distilled especially by “pro-lifers”, finds glory and divine ecstasy in the worst possible brands of suffering and sustained agony, all in the name of “life” in its supposed unutterable baked-in-the-cake “nobility”.
Future generations will not only be horrified, but will not comprehend. How could people be that evil?
So the stupid, the horrifically obese, the chronically infected, the insane, and every ghastly disfigurement imaginable is celebrated as God’s means to propagate “compassion” in a supposed “lesson” about the nobility of life no matter what its guise, no matter how intolerable.
Accordingly, people like Mother Teresa are celebrated.
The thought police dare not let us contemplate her vested interest in the horrors, humiliations, and indignities of the slums of Calcutta.
Do not mention that she aligned for 60 years with the political interests that traffic and sustain slums that need not be, should not be, and could instead have been abolished.
Too many careers would be ruined for that. Accordingly, the Pope wasted few precious moments in running to Mother Teresa’s corpse. And if there was ever a careerist, that careerist is the Pope; delay might have terminated her “sainthood” mystique in all of its profitability.
And where would the prison industry and police be without drugs and gangs?
And what would Hollywood be without a cop show to show how noble the police are?
And where would pastors and priests be without retards and others writhing in intolerable flesh bound casements?
And where would the spirit be if there were suddenly no needs for heroism?
People in the future will not be able to comprehend this evil.
That is my hope.
Jun 17, 2:52 PM — Mark Vents
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Multiculturalism counterracts ‘assimilation’. You cannot have proud non-whites and Borg at the same time, even if our enemies want all-brown Borg.
We should quietly support La Raza and press 2 for spanish, at least for now. The less they have in common with whites, the better.
All the damn mexicans across the street from me only have mexican friends. Thank God. My PC white neighbors hate that.
About three minutes ago I was watching a documentary about The Little Ice Age. They said the Vikings in Greenland should have noticed that the Eskimos had a type of spear that could catch fish in the winter, which, if the Norsemen had adopted it, would have helped them enormously. Then the documentary went straight into the line no one here remembers: “If they had mixed blood with the Eskimos they would have survived.”
Why it requires blood mixing to adapt a type of spear was not specified. It didn’t have to be. No one here except me would even remember they said that, it is so standard. When I discuss it here, I face the “DUH, MEN!” chorus, “I never did heerd nuthin’ lak THAT!”
It was less than ten minutes ago. But I will remember it for hours, even YEARS.
Having a memory is a LONELY business.
Forgive me Bob, but I’m gonna’ vent. My next door neighbor died and his kids held an estate sale, which attracted all the gutter trash too poor to live in my neighborhood. After watching this vermin (all white)tramp across my lawn even after I told them to get the hell off, I began to wonder why we should save the white race at all.
I believe, if serious about this, that in addition to saving the white race from extinction — the hard working white race, that is — we also have a duty to make extinct that portion of our race that is too lazy to work and leaches off our tax dollars and sweat.
I’m talking about white trash here, the welfare crowd, the social security disability whores who could work but won’t. The ones who race their kids to apply for welfare as soon as they hit 18. I don’t know about you but I’d much rather be surrounded by working blacks (few in number I’m sure) in leau of non-working good for nothing white trash.
Perhaps we should add a line to the Mantra about them. Or maybe wirte a whole new Mantra just for them.
Okay, I’m done venting. And yes, I feel better….
Actually, the biological revolution is going to take care of your concerns.
I see a tide moving. The biological revolution will not only LET us make choices on our children’s genes, it will FORCE us to. Random children cannot compete with bettered ones, like it or not.
And, while “pro-life leaders” have moreimportant things to do than remember the Golden Rule, children born relatively ugly and stupid will not APPRECIATE being born that way. And trash can no longer have any excuse for their children’s behavior. In fact, once the importance of heredity is realized, it will the parents, not the children, who will bear the brunt of the damage their children, and the credit for heights their children attain.
A welfare mother is a criminal, and long before 2200 that will become a legal realization. “Pro-lifers” are all for them
I remember back when “pro-lifers” were trying to outlaw in vitro, they gave the distinct impression that children born from in vitro fertilization would be soulless literally God damned robots.
They didn’t SAY that, they just left that impression. Since dealing with them, I have learned that if a pro-lifer says the sky is up you had better Google it first. Compared to their Truth, truth means nothing, which is a typically Wordist attitude.
The 30,000 in vitro children born as of a decade ago are normal, except for the fact that, unlike random offspring, they are all WANTED by their parents and are generally home-school material.
Yes, we are going to see a total change in the 21st century. By 2200 you will see as many dumb, genetically misformed children as you do Amish today. BUT if they are mixed-race, they will lack creativity, THE MAIN HUMAN CHARACTERISTIC WHICH CANNOT BE MEASURED. A high IQ Oriental world would be as stagnant as an ant colony.
So we are moving in intellectually. It will not be good enough just to produce paint-jobs like Japanese cartoons that make the children LOOK white. Don’t get into a Eugenics Balloon. Concentrate on destroying the mentality that makes the end of the white race a virtue.
Already people are denying they ever said that intermarriage is the solution to the “racial” problem. Already people are denying they ever HEARD of “assimilation.” These were Holy Writ a decade ago, though only I remember it.
I know I have won a battle when the media enforces its forgetfulness of its own argument.
The battles I win are forgotten. Which is just as well, because there’s always another hill to take, and most of our enemies and all of our friends forget my role in taking the last one.
I try to get used to being the only person alive who has a memory, but sometimes it gets a bit tiresome.
At least a dozen times people have told me HERE that they have never heard of “assimilation” as the cure to the race problem. Then they read about the English-Only Movement, which says that parents who don’t teach their children English prevent “assimilation.” “Assimilation” is discussed in almost every issue of National Review.
If you literature-searched “assimilation” in periodicals you would probably find entries coming in faster than you could read them
But when I use assimilation in the Mantra, it’s suddenly, “DUHH! Asimba WHO?”
This phenomenon is not new, and I’m ALMOST used to it.
The White Mantra
” It is said that there is this RACE problem. They say this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.”
“The Netherlands and Belgium are as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.”
“Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.”
“What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?”
“How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?”
“And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?”
“But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
“Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”