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July 4 and REAL Traditional Values

Posted by Bob on July 4th, 2007 under History, How Things Work

Here is some history you do not hear about. You have heard that Jefferson and Adams both died on July 4, 1826. In fact, the only ex-president who had died before that date was George Washington over a quarter of a century earlier. July 4, 1926 was the fiftieth anniversay of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

The critical point is that it was NOT a concidence that both men died on that day.

In fact, if you THINK about it, a forgotten art to historians, the date of the death of Jefferson and Adams provides an important insight into human nature. Before modern medicine, it was normal for very old people to decide WHEN they would die. My grandfather reached ninety during a recurrence of a scalp tumor, so he lived until his birthday in August of 1966 and promptly died.

My 86-year-old uncle by marriage lived alone in Florida, drove his own car, and had outlved two wives. Then a widow of 75 years he was courting told him she could not marry him because, in those days, her Social Sercurity from her dead husband would be reduced if she remarried.

He promptly died.

He HATED being alone, so no one was surprised at his death. Back then, it was taken for granted when a man that age gave up the will the live, he died. Today the idea that a very old person can decide on the exact date they will die seems like a superstition.

AND, back then, no one would have felt OBLIGATED to talk him OUT of it. It was his right.

“We’ll MISS you,” would have been an argument. “God demands that you live every last second you can, no matter how miserable you are,” would have been considered blasphemy, and no one even THOUGHT of it.

He died, excuse the expression, with dignity. He did NOT die being wheeled into an emergency room with an intern sitting on his chest pounding away.

AND the possibility that he and a 75-year-old woman might live in sin together never even came up. Modern Thought, both EXTREME Pro-Life and modern liberal, would have condemned the two choices we took for granted. His right to die was assumed and no one even suggested they “live together.”

Again, EXTREME pro-life and liberalism are on the same side in opposing REAL traditional values.

So most modern historians consider it to be a myth that Adams’s last words were, “Jefferson still lives.” If you understand the way people REALLY thought then, it would be exactly what he would have said. He and Jefferson both PURPOSELY stayed alive until that date, and both knew the other was doing just that. Jefferson had actually died a few hours earlier.

James Monroe was the next ex-president to die, in 1834. He ALSO died on July 4th! Now THAT you DON’T hear about. It says too much about REAL traditional values.

  1. #1 by AFKAN on 07/04/2007 - 10:10 am

    It also says that we have adopted the materialistic ocnception of who, and what, we are, at the expense of what we really are.

    I have no doubt hat we have two different models of Mankind at work here; the one, seeing the Mind, and the Soul that created it, as ghosts in a machine, and the other, seeing the Mind/Soul complex as the center of Consciousness for the Persona.

    The problem is, to the first, the physical body is the locus, the center, of their universe; that, and little else.

    To the second, there is NO Locus of Mind; Consciousness Itself is transfinite, and who you are is always a subset of who you are becoming.

    In my grandmother’s day and place, there was no medical care as we know it, and no medical/industrial complex. It was her firm belief that you went to the hospital to die.

    Finally, at 87, and QUITE against her will, she was admitted to the hospital (quite against her will), and died, two days later.

    This is the power of Belif on the human Mind; this is the power of the Words we use to construct our Reality, in general, and our social Reality, in particular.

    Remember what I keep saying about the Wordist’s intellectual construction called the double-bind, and how it places you in neutral, at best, while your hereditary RACIAL Enemies ignore the double-bind, and move past you. Their forcing you to accept TWO false premises at once, AND accepting them as being equally valid – an overpowering oxymoron, if you will – let’s them win the battle before you take the field.

    That, in large part, is what is responsible for Burnham’s “Suicide of the West.”

    A useful formulation for dealing with the all-important issue of RACE, incidentally, is to see Family as the microcosm of RACE, and RACE as the macrocosm of Family, and don’t allow someone else’s definition of those concepts limit them, in ACTION.

  2. #2 by Dave on 07/04/2007 - 12:38 pm

    My experience is that almost all medical professionals and other officials who actually have to deal with dying people day to day are fully aware of how spiritual death events really are and the role of the individual in choosing when to die.

    This has nothing to do with their medical training. It has to do with the fact that system foists the death event upon them.

    This is why all the carrying on about “the laws of dying” and “assisted suicide” is so ridiculous. There is no way any human law or policy can dispose of the human death event. The law is just not up to being able to administratively dispose of it.

    In practice, all the laws and ethics policies regarding death are universally ignored, from clerics, to doctors, to the police, to the coroner.

    Oh Oh! I just mentioned the truth. Better not do that! Shopping time for caskets for the baby boom generation is getting closer and closer…

  3. #3 by shari on 07/04/2007 - 4:18 pm

    Dying at this day and time seems extremely undignified a lot of the time. There is enough technology, that the elderly get paid for, to keep them propped up for years, but it’s not much of a life. Myself, I would like to go at some point that I’m still competent and would be missed, then be around until the only thought would be, “well, thank God that’s over. But then I’m a baby boomer who won’t have all that “social security.” We need to combine traditional values with the increasing knowledge. Right now, things are stymied. A very good reason to speak up for the survival of the white race.

  4. #4 by mderpelding on 07/05/2007 - 4:55 pm

    One thousand years ago intellectuals were used to provide justification for the actions of the powerful.

    Now intellectuals initiate the actions of the powerful.

    Both so-called conservative right-to-lifers and liberal pro-choicers wish to use the power of the nanny state.

    State force is the enemy of white people.
    We are adults and don’t need mommy to make our decisions.

    What we do need is a true aristocracy to conduct politics on our behalf.

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