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Prometheus

Posted by Bob on July 15th, 2007 under Coaching Session


I had always wondered why Jesus never said anything which people COULDN’T have known. Back then, people would have already known the golden rule, it needed no explanation.

Dealing with the incessant shriekers, those foul liberals of exaggerated indignance, again, requires nothing we don’t already know.

Every kingergarten student will be able to tell you that if you can’t do what you want, then you aren’t free.

Our education is based on giving us books, books and scriptures to make us forget what we knew, to cloud our judgement. To make us think we CANNOT know, and we MUST turn to the established authorities for facts, for meaning, for definitions. That was my experience. Race doesn’t exist because WE SAY SO. The difference between sexes doesn’t exist because WE SAY SO. What YOU observe is wrong. What you THINK is wrong. It is WRONG because you are NOT one of the established.
You are not supposed to use your values. We have the books and you dont. Your judgement, your opinion, was of no value if you didn’t have the books and the authority.

This is why I’ve hearn hundreds of philosophers babble about ‘freedom’ and never make a point. This is why I’ve heard gun control nuts talk about how we need gun control to be free. It’s all based on words and NOT you and I, and no one ever questions it.

I went to a philosophy event where six philosophers argued about the philosophy of happiness and what it means to be happy, and how to achieve it.

Kindergarteners don’t need 6 professors to tell them what would make them happy. This puts them head and shoulders above everyone who went to that lecture expecting some form of answer.

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  1. #1 by shari on 07/15/2007 - 1:04 pm

    When my older son was about 11 or 12 there was an argument going on about what was put in school textbooks. I remember his disgusted opinion was, “They’re TEXTBOOKS, WHO reads them?”

  2. #2 by Mark on 07/15/2007 - 7:19 pm

    This has got to be the most enlightened and thought provoking item I’ve ever read. Bob, if you don’t put a permanent link to this you will be doing all of us a great injustice. This piece hits home like nothing I’ve ever seen.

    BRAVO!!!

  3. #3 by Alan on 07/16/2007 - 9:11 pm

    This post reminds me of Bob’s works on the, Proper Authorities and Costume worshiping etc. When we feel it in our gut that things are a little weird these days then they probably are. Those folks seeking answers, the folks attending lectures by so called experts are in reality refusing to face up to reality, they want somebody to tell them everything is just huncky dory.

  4. #4 by Pain on 07/17/2007 - 1:35 am

    My dog would say he is happy. He is.

  5. #5 by Sys Op on 07/17/2007 - 3:06 am

    Onto Prometheus, which is a post comment under Bob’s post “Freedom Screamers” and shriekers, etc.

    Prometheus, have you read every word in context (available to us) that Jesus said?

    It is ironic that there are established authorities for facts, for meaning, for definitions that are real to the best of their honest abilities. That is my experience. Race doesn’t exist because we say so. The difference between sexes doesn’t exist because we say so. What we observe cannot be wrong–as if some of the keys on a piano were right and some were wrong. What you think may or may not be wrong. It is absolutely NOT wrong merely because you are NOT one of the established authorities (real or shrieker-fake).

    [after discussing his/all atheism] … Very well then, atheism is too simple. …

    It is no good asking for a simple religion. After all, real things are not simple …

    A child saying a child’s prayer looks simple. And if you are content to stop there, well and good. But if you are not–and the modern world usually is not–if you want to go on and ask what is really happening–then you must be prepared for something difficult. If we ask for something more than simplicity, it is silly then to complain that the something more is not simple.

    Very often, however, this silly procedure is adopted by people who are not silly, but who, consciously or unconsciously, want to destroy Christianity. Such people put up a version of Christianity suitable for a child of six and make that the object of their attack. When you try to explain the Christian doctrine as it is really held by an instructed adult, they then complain that you are making their heads turn round and that it is all too complicated and that if there really were a God they are sure He would have made “religion” simple, because simplicity is so beautiful, etc. … Notice, too, their idea of God “making religion simple”: as if “religion” were something God invented, and not His statement to us of certain quite unalterable facts about His own nature. …

    Besides being complicated, reality, in my experience, is usually odd. … Reality, in fact, is usually something you could not have guessed. …

    In my experience, that works for me. These problems have been around forever. The power of control over youth is awesome. One of the few times the men close to Jesus were strongly rebuked by Him was over this very issue.
    In all my life I could never subject myself to the torture of hearing 100s of philo-sophers (lovers of wisdom) blather on.
    Condolances to you. But I’ve heard or read 100s of kindergartener’s tell what would make them happy.
    Condolances to parents — wrapped up in a lot of good hearty laughter.

    But “every kindergarten student will be able to tell you that if you can’t do what you want, then you aren’t free.” And that IS the bottom line here.

    Quotes from C.S. Lewis, M. C., II. 2.

  6. #6 by Prometheus on 07/17/2007 - 7:32 am

    “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” doesn’t require a Masters, PhD or intimate knowledge of social science. Quantum science or Calculus didn’t need to be developed in order for Christs words to make sense. The people he preached to at the time had the faculties to be able to put that into practice.

    The complexity in the argument “what is happiness”, is not based on the inherit complexity of the question, but the difficulty in keeping the answer SIMPLE.

    Keeping things simple is HARD.
    Arguing with ever increasing levels of complexity is EASY.

    I’ve argued such questions with philosopher types and gotten into ever increasingly complex arguments, bringing in all manner of philosophers, theories, science etc.

    It certaintly looks difficult, and impressive. But its EASY and LAZY.

    Try doing that, and just keeping it simple, being able to nail the basic point and sticking to it. That’s HARD.
    That requires a mental clarity and discipline that we aren’t taught at school.

  7. #7 by Truck Roy on 06/11/2008 - 10:53 pm

    Much more powerful then logic is social norms. Social norms are maintained through constant affirmation.

    To succeed, it is not enough to get people to agree with us. To succeed, through constant affirmation of our position, we must help our people view any White who is not a White Nationalist as a freak.

    Any White who is not a White Nationalist is a freak.

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