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Marx, Engels, Che and Race

Posted by Bob on July 31st, 2007 under History


I pointed out that Che said:

The Negro is indolent and lazy, and spends his money on frivolities, whereas
the European is forward-looking, organized, and intelligent.
— Che Guevara

Mexicans are a band of illiterate Indians.
— Che Guevara

Marx and Engels naturally wrote to each other in German, but they never used the correct German word Neger. They always used the word “nigger,” and unlike all other nouns in German, they didn’t capitalize it.

Marx asked Darwin’s permission to dedicate Das Kapital to Darwin and Darwin refused. The modern Marxist insists that Marx did not believe in the importance of genes. If you actually READ his introduction to Das Kapital, you will find that he makes it very clear that he recognized the revolutionary new ideas abut genes in his day, but that his book was about society.

Those revolutionary new ideas included De Gobineau.

Finally, I never expect an anti to THINK about anything, but when one says “From each according to his ABILITY, to each according to his need” one is taking it for granted that ABILITIES differ. According to modern Marxism, in a perfect Marxist environment, there would be no difference in ABILITY.

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  1. #1 by Hardric on 07/31/2007 - 12:47 pm

    One may have differing opinions about how a well run society should operate, but ignoring Genetic and Racial Realities simply makes you a damn fool.

  2. #2 by Tim on 07/31/2007 - 1:09 pm

    Marxism is now just wordism. If anyone actually reads Marx you will realize he had NO interest in non-whites. In fact, he would be shocked and insulted that this junk is called Cultural Marxism. When actually it is just Cultural Communism (or as I say 2nd generation Communism and Corporate Feudalism mixed).

    Marx wrote “Letters to the Confederacy” and in it he condemns elite Whites. He goes on to say the poor Whites should overthrow the elites who demand negro labor. He was correct on that much. Marx had NO interest concerning the blacks of the South (other than throwing them out).

    And look at how many Marxist and Communist fought against Non-White immigration into America a hundred years ago. The Immigration Act of 1915 was heralded by Marxist and Communist around the world. At least back then they were against Corporations taking advantage of our Working Class.

  3. #3 by danerebor on 07/31/2007 - 1:53 pm

    Observe the self-hating white people in this picture –> http://cofcc.org/?p=538 . I wouldn’t be surprised if they were carrying toy guns in holsters under their Che Guevara T-shirts.

    These mislead cowards won’t receive any support from mommy professor when their real mommies & daddies can’t afford to support them financially anymore. Mr. Mexican won’t be so nice to them either when they have to leave their ivory towers and live and work near him and his LARGE family.

    Self-hating white people only have the bravery to beat up racially aware white people, when they outnumber them 10:1. Like when they beat up my friend Erick and his WIFE.

    Finding out what Marx and Guevara really meant are going to be the LEAST of their rude awakenings.

  4. #4 by mderpelding on 07/31/2007 - 8:43 pm

    Six months working in a factory would have convinced Marx that his vaunted “dictatorship of the proletariat” was a truly stupid idea.

    A thought… quotes mine…
    “Finally, I never expect an anti to THINK about anything, but when one says “From each according to his ABILITY, to each according to his need” one is taking it for granted that ABILITIES differ. According to modern Marxism, in a perfect Marxist environment, there would be no difference in ABILITY.”

    Of course “modern” Marxism and “post-modern” Marxism are a bit different. Modern Marxism assumes equality of all people and states that inequality is caused by economic factors. Hence the famous aphorism relating need and ability.
    Marx’s worldview was based on never ending conflict, traditionally economically.
    But free trade improved the lives of all people. Much better than scientific socialism, with it’s planned economy.
    So the Marxist intellectuals went back to the drawing board, and decided that the conflict wasn’t based upon economic need, as in class warfare, but instead was based upon egalitarianism, as in race/cultural warfare.

    The origin of Marx’s ideas are certainly arguable, but their nature needs to be understood. Marx and his followers viewed life as based upon never ending conflict instead of cooperation. That means that in any cooperative population there MUST be conflict. Even if it is esoteric. Straussians take note. This is of course a religious position.

    Our world has always been based on understanding, not conflict.
    The auto mechanic doesn’t fight the car, he understands it.
    The engineer doesn’t view physical properties as enemies to be overcome, but as properties to be harnessed.
    To the mathematician, the renegade function presents a challenge to ones intellect, not a monster to be dismissed out of hand.

    Fun thought…
    Conflict…bodies clashing in space…death and destruction…nihilism…zoroastrianism…taoism…eastern dualism.

    None of these will make an airplane fly. A steel ship float. A logic program function. A crane lift a load.
    But all those “isms” employ intellectuals.

  5. #5 by Pain on 07/31/2007 - 9:49 pm

    “I pointed out that Che said:

    The Negro is indolent and lazy, and spends his money on frivolities, whereas
    the European is forward-looking, organized, and intelligent.
    – Che Guevara

    Mexicans are a band of illiterate Indians.
    – Che Guevara”

    One thing Che had that today’s neo-Marxist PC politicos don’t is a little realism.

    PC cultees are so lost in hate of white people, that they cannot let reality come into their hearts. This is another reason that if they got the revolution they want, they will be lined up and shot by the people who give them their orders right now. The cultees are useful in tearing things down, but people lacking realism are useless in “normalizing” a revolution.

    And if WE win, we can watch the hate-filled greedy people kill each other off.

  6. #6 by juanito on 08/05/2007 - 8:19 am

    The Negro is indolent and lazy, and spends his money on frivolities, whereas
    the European is forward-looking, organized, and intelligent.
    – Che Guevara

    Can you provide a source for that quotation, please?

  7. #7 by Bob on 08/05/2007 - 10:50 am

    juanito, wardrum 73 says on SF:

    those quotes were from Che’s writings while he was in the Congo. Just go to your local bookstore they should have his books in stock. A good one to check out is “che” guevara on revolution. a documentary overview by jay mallin

    “in order to defeat your enemy you must know how they think and act” wardrum

  8. #8 by Steve on 10/12/2007 - 12:04 am

    Where and when did Guevara say those things about blacks and mexicans? I’ve only heard Fontova claim he say those things, but I’ve never hear him cite the source. I have seen Guevara criticize US treatment of blacks though, and I can cite the source if you’d like. But please provide the source where he makes those comments. I am not pro-Guevara by any means, btw.

  9. #9 by CHARLIE CRUZ on 11/24/2007 - 10:07 am

    CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME THE SOURCE FOR THE QUOTE,

    ” MEXICANS ARE A BUNCH OF ILLITERATE INDIANS,”

    AND ANY OTHER RACIST QUOTES BY CHE W/SOURCE OF QUOTE

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