I join a distinguished group fo commenters in congratulating mderpelding on this really SHORT, really excellent, insight:

Our great weakness when confronted with so-called progressive thought is to be conservative. Resisting change gives the initiative to the other side. So then we counterstrike. The progressives call this being a “reactionary”. They are correct. This is a defensive position and the best outcome of defense is the status quo. In extremis it means extinction.

Every Roman battle began with the Javelin throw.

Note that it didn’t begin with an enemy attack.

*** AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

What a great opening salvo!

I put Tolerance and Namble on SF Opposing Views.

An anti said he agreed with me about my condemantion of NAMBLA but not on my attacks on interracial datingand on my attack on alcoholics.

I replied that my stataement about alcoholics was the official position of Alcoholics Anonymous. He replied that he hadn’t moticed that for a reason.

The exchange follows:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered1234
Sorry, it was hard to discern from the other stuff. love and tolerence is a creed.

ME:

Please don’t think I’m just being rude by talking to others here about you. You bring up a vital point.

Unregistered here could never know it, but he has made my point. I discussed the fact that we all know that neither Tiger Woods nor OJ Simpson would have anything to do with women who looked like the mulatto daughters they produce with their blond wives. But a white man who thinks that way is anaziwhowatnstokillsixmillionjews.

No anti can SEE what I am saying. And it takes a LOT of mental perversion to be able to overlook this completely.

As this anti says, he was looking for buzz words like love and tolerance. These people imprisoning us for disagreeing with us really do believe they represent love and tolerance.

I was discussing this “tolerance” and NAMBLA and like perversions and just how warped one’s thinking have to be to actually not notice the children a blond and a black will have.

“Tolerance and love” in the anti creed is, of course, the exact opposite of tolerance and love in the real world. The Inquisition talked about Love and Mercy all the time. If you are bnr4ainwaashed enough, you can honestly believe that you are screaming people down for Love or jailing disagreement in the name of Tolerance.

Unregistered here is incapable of seeing that. He can see the Inquisition misused Christianity, he can see NAMBLA is pushing perversion in the name of tolerance. But he is incapable of seeing himself as doing the same thing in the case of forbidding whites to see what Tiger Woods and OJ.

Which happens to be my exact point.

AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, WHITE CoUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

” It is said that there is this RACE problem. They say this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.”

“The Netherlands and Belgium are as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.”

“Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.”

“What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?”

“How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?”

“And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?”

“But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

“Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”

http://whitakeronline.org

http://www.nationalsalvation.net/

On another WN Forum, a poster decided to accept the painfully gained advice of Dr. David Duke for actually making the beginning of headway IN PREPARATION FOR the actual practice of the responsible assumption of political power.

Some time back, Dr. Duke argued we should get involved with the political parties at the grassroots level, where they offered FREE courses on how to organize and get things done, in the current political framework. Everything is there for you; expert advice on fund raising, finance, sign design and manufacture.

Great idea.

My variation was to work within the new Ron Paul organizations – Internet based, Meet-Up types – and learn with them, gaining practice on a playing field where it would cost us nothing, but offer us a chance to deal with the politics of true alienation.

The other choice – if you are serious about the issues involved in forming a nation – would be to get with Dr. James Dobson’s new proto-party, NOW, and work within that system using the same techniques that worked for Gramsci, in his followers long march through the Institutions. Our difference would be to use the word “Family,” but always apply it, in practice, to mean “Race.”

The tree fell in the forest, and, no one seems to have heard it.

Not one word of commentary on a solution to issues the owner and founder of the board claims to have had in mind when he designed the board.

Not one – not from anybody.

I have done this with my nephews looking over my shoulder, explaining to them what I was doing, and why it mattered.

They were amazed at the complete lack of response to the suggestion.

The answer, of course, is simple.

Tonight, and for the next few days, we shall be discussing the differences between a meeting to alter the Articles of Confederation, and the ratification of the new Constitution by the affected States in 1791.

They have the time ahead I don’t, and I know they will enjoy attending Ron Paul Meet-Ups – “Hey, guys, a chance to meet women for free!”

I’ll find the local Dobson people, and get them to work with them, too, if an opportunity develops.

The lesson?

The Lesson of how a meeting to revise the Articles of Confederation became the foundation of a New Nation is also a lesson in how a small, intelligent, organized minority, given time and a singular focus, can form the lever that rests of the back of the indifferent, moving them into the formation of a New Nation.

Nobody shows up?

More opportunities for US!

Treasure sinks to the bottom. Anything worthwhile ends up on the bottom or is stranded on shore.

The only thing the mainstream will tolerate is water.

BBG:

BobW disappeared for several days. Was concerned for his health. But he is back, ornery as all hell. That is the Bob I want to hear from. This seminar. We are looking for truth, not balm. If Bob sh*ts on me, he’ll find that can diarrhea back. We are among friends, pour a little bourbon & branch. Have a laugh. And stay on message.

I expanded somewhat on the point below on SF.

I am realy upset that you missed the point so completely:

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I did not get ONE comment on this!

Everybody wants to talk about whether things are hopeless or not, not what to do if we succeed.

The Southern Poverty Law Center is doing more to convince people of our possible success than we do.

Someone on my blog DID comment on this, an anti, and my reply is important:

– Hpfeffer

Wow! You fellas are truly drunk with power! Where did you get these ideas as to what you are going to do?

– hpfeffer

ME:

As a matter of fact, this is exactly the kind of thinking we have NOT been doing.

I mapped out a sixty-year program, and one comment got back to whom we should have vengeance on FIRST.

No commenter pointed to the PRACTICAL aspect of what I said.

Everybody feels a groundswell, and the desperation of the ruling class shows it. That means we should take ADVANTAGE of it. Instead, the comments are generally the same old same old.

If we make it clear that we will have the same mercy on genocide that Jews had, it adds a whole new dimension to the equation. First of all, unlike anything anyone else has said, this is a direct threat tot eh superrich, who are already our enemies. Right now they can safely look on their going with the flow as costless.

Secondly, a lot of people will benefit from this ruination of the traitors. All this is more important to me than anything any commenter has discussed. This is PRACTICAL POWER POLITICS.

What is NOT PRACTICAL POWER POLITICS is sitting around asking each other, “Is it all HOPELESS?” The only PLANNING we seem to do is planning when to surrender. Surrender is not a complicated process. Winning IS a complicated process.

For God’s sake, let’s PLAN for WINNING.

Lenin never spoke to more than a small roomful of people before he arrived in Moscow in 1917. What gave him the Soviet Empire was the simple fact that he hit the ground running. No one else had PLAN for revolution. hpfeffer have made fun of this little man making such grandiose plans when he was an exile in Switzerland.

Lenin won precisely because he would have given hpfeffer the finger.

We get a revolution or we don’t. The ONLY discussion that makes sense for us is to plan for when it happens.

I am not advocating anything illegal. I am advocating what is being done. The idea of being chased and punished FINANCIALLY with the enthusiasm Jews and the US have put into chasing down reparations will put the necessary dread into more and more of our enemies as the SPLC and others convince that our takeover is a real possibility.

As it is, they have nothing to lose by being our enemies.

The piece below, “TOLERANCE and NAMBLA,” is illustrated by the respectable conservative position genocide against. The sole spokesman on the subject for the respectable right is David Horowitz.

Horowitz condemns the ban on discussion of race to an extent respectable conservatives will not do – Buckley has endorsed the Thought Crime laws in Europe – so he is actually extreme for a respectable. But Horowitz insists that his approach will lead to “assimilation” – the end of whites – even BETTER.

Horowitz says all whites need to “assimilate” with non-whites because “Americans are BETTER than that” – meaning objection to the melting pot. Once a race-mixer, ALWAYS a race-mixer.

Yes, Horowitz is a Jew, but white gentile anti-whites are EXACTLY the same way. He speaks for the whole respectable right.

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AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

” It is said that there is this RACE problem. They say this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.”

“The Netherlands and Belgium are as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.”

“Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.”

“What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?”

“How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?”

“And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?”

“But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

“Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”

http://whitakeronline.org

http://www.nationalsalvation.net/

BW says:

“You can be reasonable or you can be truthful”

“This is not diplomacy.”

“Every Truth is saleable and reasonable. The truth is neither.”

I say:

Do not take BWs above statement and turn it into DOCTRINE. BW did not say, “Diplomacy doesn’t matter”.

That would be an excuse for failing to master diplomacy, a practical necessity in the real world.

Something turns into Wordism at the very moment it furnishes an excuse for failing to do what is necessary.

ME:

The mistake Dave is pointing out is how they managed to justify the Inquisition in the name of the man who said, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

I meant that WE have to see what is not true, clearly and without compromise IN OUR OWN MINDS. THEN we must find a way to tell others what we have concluded. That, as Dave says, is a matter of diplomacy, advertising work, any of a number of things that we do not like to say we are doing because, to our Aryan minds, the words sound dishonest.

But you cannot just shout people into believing what is true. You have to recognize Wordism’s methods and counter them. Diplomacy, war, espionage, all these are real world methods. And if you can’t use them to spread the truth, a Truth will win.

Diplomacy often just means decency. The person who says he is “always frank” invariably is using that as an excuse for cruelty. Diplomacy can be a lie or kindness or a trick, depending on who uses it how.

I hope this explanation by Dave and me was unnecessary, but in any case, it makes the point that I cannot do without your applying common sense here.

My concept of power is coming up with an idea and getting it to the world in general. Most people get an idea and write a book about it. That is RELATIVELY easy, thought I hope never to write another book.

“If I had had more time, I would have written less.” In other words, this old writers’ rule says that the more you want to boil your idea down, the more work you have to put into it. A big book takes a lot of work, but not nearly as much as thinking and rethinking a concept until one has it in a short form that seems obvious once somebody has heard it.

There is no reward for this but raw power. When someone finally writes a thick book saying what I worked out, the doctrine goes in his name.

But this endless work of boiling it down is only the beginning. Once an idea has been boiled down to “Labor VOTES” or “EVERY white country and ONLY white countries,” it is just the beginning, though that is more work than a book in itself. Once I get the formula and say it, I get a blank look and the person I am talking to goes onto discuss the Great Theory or The Latest Thing.

It was not until 1982 that I was able to put together The New Right Papers, and it was the vehicle for Societal Property Rights — “Labor VOTES” — to be the vehicle I had been seeking for years.

Getting a formula into tens of millions of minds — that is what Madison Avenue makes its billions doing. I pointed that out in my Arizona speech and got the usual dazed look back.

I did this on concept after concept, and I have found that it works best when no one traces it back to me. Power is NOT getting credit. Getting credit is a separate job altogether.

But try to conceive of the WORK involved here. Try to imagine the YEARS each idea took.

It is important for me to take credit here so that you will REALIZE that you have the only key to true power in the real world right here in BUGS.

All this is to introduce a comment from me:

YOU have made the Mantra proceed. You need to keep slamming at them with it and be encouraged by the fact that Fjordmann and others are getting the idea after I have been pushing it for over two decades.

We are changing the world, the REAL world, not the “I am Tough and Practical” world.

This is a geometric progression. When my ideas come back in a mainline source, it has gone from me to a hundred thousand. From a hundred thousand to a major impact on policy is a shorter process — though it seems long to us — than getting the first stage.

I join in Sarge in saying, “We are marching. YOU are the only ones who understand what we are doing. Power is the only encouragement you will get for a while. It has driven me for over half a century.

Now, with Fjordmann, you SEE it working. It took two decades to get this far.

But as long as only we see it, only we have the power.

AFKAN:In reply to Simmons:

you wrote:

*snip*
Dave and Afkan have slipped into the sand trap of trying to make sense of the idiots in charge machinations.
*end snip*

in reply:
We have spent fifty years fighting Shadows established by “the idiots in charge of machinations.”

We have been, effectively, played for Fools by people who define ALL issues in the Light of a Positive Theory of Race; at least, it is positive, and positively good, for them.

When I was much younger, I wondered why lawyers who went at each other tooth and nail in the courtroom would retire to expensive restaurants, and have expensive dinners together.

One day, my uncle told me, “See, the whole thing is like the professional wrestling you see on television. They support the System, and you are simply food for the System. The irreplaceable energy of your life simply feeds the Machine when you go to court. No matter who wins or loses, the lawyers win, because, either way, they are getting paid.”

Since then, the worlds “political oligopoly” have entered my vocabulary.

Since then, national politics is seen in an entirely different light; eight years of Bush, eight years of Clinton, eight years of Bush, eight years of…you get the idea.

So, I only am interested in the one issue that effectively leads out of the Platonic Cave in which we find ourselves, and that is the intellectual model of Family, as the microcosm of Race, Race, as the macrocosm of Family, and Race as the Living Bridge between Family and Culture.

For the first time, we transcend the false duality and double-bind mechanisms of political control inherent in the nature of “Wordism,” and can tap vital sources of Ideas, and Energy, in the fulfillment of something uniquely Creative, fighting the fight on Our Terms, for a welcome change.

OUR Terms.

For a Change.

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ME:

OUR terms:

One thing we have trouble with is understanding what a fundamental revolution we are demanding. That is why AFKAN keeps capitalizing RACE, but he doesn’t do the WORK to fully explain, or maybe to think out, what he means.

The simple fact is that, in explaining reality, race substitutes for EVERYTHING people make a living on. Jesus may save your soul, but that is not what preachers make a living on. That is not a doctrine they can get power from. They need “Judeo-Christianity,” something that allows them to say that God is a social agenda.

Listen to O’Reilly. He says that “the idea that some children can learn better than others is evil.” That’s a quote.

We are proceeding into utterly uncharted waters. There was a comfort in the idea that civilization had a clearly identifiable beginning and that mankind is a single, utterly malleable unit.

There were civilized people. Those who had become the heirs of Egypt, and savages of all races and who only needed the ministrations of civilized folk, of paid intellectuals. There was a lot of argument over which ministrations were the True Ministrations, but the basic concept that All Mankind needed the right words was not questioned.

Nobody but me seems to realize how fundamental this assumption is to everything we call civilization, including Western Civilization.

We are saying it is not true.

While others crowd around and decry Neoconservatism as if it were some kind of Special Jewish Concept. It is an opportunistic concept in which Jews take the lead.. But abolitionist-minded New Englanders, National Review types, would have led the charge and invented Neoconservatism had there been no Jews — and they had had the smarts.

I see neocons as one of a number of natural responses to the them that will crush present social thinking the way that modern medicine crushed bleeding two hundred years ago.

Nobody studies the embarrassing history of the end of bleeding in favor of bacteriology. Nobody will even notice the disappearance of everything that was Intellectual in our age.

Neoconservatism says that liberalism as not what we said it was, a set of ideas that would lead to disaster. No, says neoconservatism, liberalism was correct until on or about January 1, 1970. Then, unaccountably, it went wrong. That is the doctrine of conservatism today, as detailed by National Review.

The establishment is becoming more and more openly oppressive. That is because everything it is based on is becoming more obviously ridiculous every day. Rome did not disagree with Galileo; it simply said that the implications of what he said were destructive to Doctrine.

What AFKAN calls RACE violates the fundamental Doctrine of professional Intellectualism, that there is room for Compromise. If we do not accept some form of Neoconservatism, even Judeo-Christianity, we are saying that thousands of Intellectuals were complete nincompoops.

No, we are saying, they did not “have a point to make.” They were totally destructive and far, far, far worse than useless.

That is why no historian has EVER written a history of the actual transition of medicine in the early nineteenth century. The Royal Navy was still regularly bleeding crews in 1815, despite one of our commentators who says that bleeding was out of date long before then.

It wasn’t.

But there was no COMPROMISE between Galen’s crap about balancing humors and reality.

Period.

If race is everything, then every single professional in the social sciences back to classical times is a damned FOOL. As in the case of Galen versus reality, there is stark naked CHOICE. People don’t LIKE that. They want a Judeo-Christianity, a Neoconservatism, that bridges the gap, something that says that everybody had a point, that Intellectualism was not a vicious, silly, destructive FRAUD.

But it WAS a vicious, pretentious, destructive fraud.

Let the Orient worship profound-sounding horseshit.

The wheel, declared to be the most fundamental of inventions, did not EXIST anywhere but in Indo-European lands. I am a fan of the comic strip BC, but no caveman had the wheel. China had it because they were in contact with Indo-Europeans.

We have no history; we have a set of convenient lies agreed upon, as has been stated before. It makes everybody happy. Truth NEVER makes everybody happy.

Race is the crunch. EVERYTHING is racial.

There is no compromise that is not an outright lie.

There will be many, many “neos” after Neoconservatism has been forgotten. But something is true or it is not true.

PERIOD.

They are Wrong.

We are RIGHT.

There is no NEO anything.

This is not reasonable.

You can be resonable or you can be truthful

This is not diplomacy.

Every Truth is saleable and reasonable. The truth is neither.