While people here whine about how the Mantra is too complicated or something, one anti over on SF is sobbing that it’s all too obvious and all too effective. In fact, we have to quit it becuase Lord Nelson hitting him with it over and over is like a KGB interrogation.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/traitors-denazification-approach-431285p8.html
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TECHS: Why doesn’t this show as a LINK? When I copy and paste it on my address bar it goes right there. Thanks for pointing this out, Z!

Way to go, LN!

Commenters, please TRY the Mantra before you say how it doesn’t work.

ME:

I LOVE it when the truth is put into minimum space CLEARLY.

Alan has put a critical rule PERFECTLY:

“COMPLEXITY BLURS THE OBVIOUS.”

PRENOTE FROM ME”

In The Dispossessed Majority, “Wilmot Robertson” points out that the oil industry is particularly unpopular because it was, at his time of writing, the only industry in America not controlled by “minorities.’

When I was on the Hill, the oil lobyists were the only ones who felt strong rnough to use the term “sand niggers.”

ON TO DAVE:

Simmons,

Let me say first that if there were any group elites more aware of the fact that nonwhites “no can do” it is oil industry insiders. You have no idea of how thoroughly the politics of the oil industry revolves around that very issue. Accordingly, they see the world very realistically.

What passes for public debate all over the world is truly ridiculous. Only the uninformed respond emotionally to these debates.

But elites ARE FORCED to respond to these ridiculous debates if they are in any way dependent about public perceptions regarding the sale of their products, or reactions to their development activities. Accordingly, as heavily white dominated as the oil industry is, it takes care not to offend nonwhites for nonwhites purchase gasoline and live in neighborhoods close to their refineries. They also have international diplomacy issues to consider.

So now I have given you a specimen outline of the sensitivities involved for the oil giants. But let us leave aside the oil industry elites, for they are already quite solidly on Robert Whitaker’s page already, and go to other types of “elites”, say for example, “local command” types.

Now what I have actually done on several occasions is that I hold up my hand and say, “Challenge”. (I get them to agree to take on a “challenge”.) Then I say, “Let us consider this from a standpoint that in our current environment is strictly forbidden and considered pure heresy, that is let us consider this from a PURELY RACIAL standpoint.”

Then I say, “Mexico is a very resource rich country, why are Mexicans so poor?” (The response is the usual bullshit). Then I say, “But what if the real cause of Mexican poverty is the Mexicans themselves, that they are simply genetically incapable of self-directed progress and of being equal to white people?” (The response is the usual bullshit).

Then I say, “Why should the directional flow of population be from Mexico and Latin America into our country? What makes that logical?” (There my respondents tend to stumble a bit). Then I quickly insert, “The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan and Taiwan, but nobody is demanding that those countries be integrated with mass immigration. What is going on? Don’t white people have a right to exist?” (Here my respondents have tended to say, “You are indeed speaking heretically”).

And my response back is, “Yes, I am speaking heretically. I told you my challenge was to look at this from a strictly forbidden standpoint.

Then the discourse usually gets to where the respondent makes some heartfelt statement about his or her belief that everybody is inherently equal and that whites aren’t really threatened. But so what? That’s throwaway bullshit and what I have really done is leave in my wake an educated person who I have deeply impressed without stumbling into disciplinary violations of organizational standards (because I forewarned them about the nature of the discourse in advance and disciplinary standards regarding speech cannot be invoked in private conversations outside of formal organizational settings in any event).

We do live in a country where free speech is permitted (outside of formal organizational venues) although there are many bad actors that would like to abolish it.

I notice the response in their hearts. The mouth says one thing and the heart says another.

Life is like that, isn’t it?

Racial loyalty does exist, but it is disconcerting to be hit with the Mantra for the Mantra is evidence of the mounting crises the most aware white people know is transpiring and dread.

I keep getting comments that amount to, “I’m too smart for the Mantra” or “I’ve got my own agenda.”

Basic training is as boring for me as it is for a D.I. To the extent that YOU get discipline, I do not HAVE to keep pounding in the basics. Everybody who does not get the basics thinks he’s too smart for them. Which makes more work for me.

BORING work.

Two other commenters said, respectively, that people keep finding exceptions to the mantra and the mantra is too much at once. Who do you think you’re fooling? It reminds of students who would use the old excuses I used for not giving the right answers or not showing up. I had to explain I had not only hears those excuses, I’d USED them.

The three excuses for failing to have the discipline to use the mantra are transparent, not only to me but to Dave and everybody else her who is serious. Those of us who are in ACTION have no trouble with the “too much at once” or the “exceptions” crap. It’s odd that no one but those with the respective excuses ever run into these problems.

The three excuses cited above cover two simple human motivations: 1) You don’t want to appear average, so you want to make your own argument and look smart, regardless of the effect on the larger struggle, and 2) you have your own agenda.

I don’t mind people breaking a discipline I have no right to impose. I do, however, object to people lying to themselves and to us. We all do that. We all do that all the time. But like other human failings, it should be minimized despite the fact you can never get rid of it. I am not sure I would want to the kind of robot that couldn’t lie to himself or want to deal with such.

But these ARE delusions and excuses. An old warrior can hear those coming out of himself.

Simmons,

I am often in settings where what I call the “local command” shows up (e.g., judges, city and State officials, senior bureaucrats), but also through my family I have sometimes have access to senior oil company executives, key industry lawyers, etc.

But through my professional work I also often find myself with C-level people of prominent foundations and charities and NGO personalities and figures. For example, recently I was able to meet the senior executive heading up the NGO providing America’s contribution to relief of the refugees from the fighting in Dafur.

These are lily-white venues. The occasional nonwhites in them do not mean anything. These venues are full of aggressive, interesting, and competitive people heavily involved in doing real things.

My conversations are heavily Whitaker influenced which makes for impressive conversations. Armed with Whitaker, you cut through the bullshit quick.

By the way, it has been a while but I was actually able to have a chat with a former CEO of America’s largest oil refinery and I picked his brain on the oil business. Invaluable information.

Here are facts he related to me (you will never get them from the mainstream): Because of the huge advances in geological imaging, the risk of the development of new properties has declined significantly. Economically extractable oil is running 1% ahead of the increases in demand, one of the greatest rates in history (demand is increasing 2% annually, new discoveries 3% annually).

Because of financial innovation, there is far more participation by the speculators in the futures markets. The difference between cash prices and futures prices has for last several years been unprecedented. This has been a bonanza for the oil giants. They have been more than happy to sell to the speculators on the most advantageous terms they have ever had.

The distributors have been buying any container, any ship, any form of warehousing they possibly can because of the high spread between oil cash and oil futures.

Our high gas prices are due to speculators (hedge funds and bank trading desks), not oil shortages. Oil is in great abundance and will be, absent general war, for the foreseeable future.

The refinery industry and oil giants love it. They get to book record profits at the expense of dumb speculators and blame it all on “peak oil”. Like any other commodity, oil is usually in oversupply. The commercials (oil giants) know their bonanza can’t last. It never does.

ME:

I love comments that describe ACTION on your part.

Dave says:

There are certain very important facts in the basic plumbing of social life that will not and cannot change ever. And I have lived enough to realize that only the “street smart”, only the “feral dogs” among us, tend to know this.

“Feral dogs” avoid the adoption of sterile goals and beliefs. That is why the Mantra, being virile, is a big “dollop” for a tame dog.

But odd thing that is perennially misunderstood is that the most privileged venues have the largest counts of “feral dogs”, exactly the opposite of what is ordinarily believed.

This is because the strongest competitors tend to land in the privileged venues.

And personally I have access to privileged venues. Also, I am working at insinuating the Mantra into these venues. These venues are more amenable to the receipt of the Mantra than most participants in this seminar realize.

However, this takes clear sightedness and I use BUGS to assist me in obtaining that clear sightedness.

ME AGAIN:

Al is in action, too. He describes problems he has with people finding holes in the Mantra. I have seen this attempt in action, but it is answered by quotes from the UN Genocide Treaty, which covers exactly what is being done to the white race.

But as one of us three who is speaking from experience IN ACTION, I noted something just now. Nobody ever hits ME with these exceptions. They seem to know I’m ready for it. They can tell Al is more ready to listen to the other side, so they feel he can more easily be distracted.

If I were a Tough Guy, you could hear nothing from me here but the sound of beating my hest and the Tarzan scream which is the motto of the crowd that calls itself The Greatest Generation. But, in being willing to listen, Al, BY BEING IN ACTION, gives us a perspective we NEED.

One Al is worth a dozen armchair Tough Guys.

So I see Al and Dave in a different perspective. Both are REPORTING FROM THE FRONT, as am I.

Al is USING the Mantra, and has a different perspective on it, from, BEING THERE. EXPERIENCE in the field is ALWAYS worth listening to.I don’t a uniform group of Bob Whitakers out there, bull-headed old men. If there is only me and Al and Dave, discussing our actual experiences from slightly different viewpoints, that is as big a team as I am used to working with and getting astounding results from.

I always have one big advantage: You can’t truly realize how powerful you are. I know that from fifty years of experience.

In terms of understanding the exact battle we are fighting, my group of commenters is a HUGE group to have hammering on the very point that the enemy cannot afford. It was a big risk for me to give up every pretense of respectability in favor of the hope that I could get this down-to-the-nub ACTION group together.

I WON.

Thank God for Dave and Al and the rest of you.

Responses to the article below, “Tim: Traitors, the Denazification Approach” provide a very useful example of how I want you to look at things I write and life in general.

Lord Nelson and mderpelding got the point.

My entire real emphasis here was on providing a threat that would realistic bother the other side, especially the ones we need. You see, we are4 involved in a REAL fight here, not a theoretical exercise.

After all these years of ineffectiveness, this is almost impossible for our people to realize.

So on your side we envision a great torchlight Parade of Victory when everybody suddenly becomes Awakened. So it is very, very unusual for somebody to actually pay any attention to what I am actually talking about.

Look at it from the point of view of someone TODAY who is on the other side. They talk a lot about Nazi Suppression and Holocaust, but they talk about precisely they don’t take it seriously. As Isawi pointed out, today’s social scientists, like today’s generals, are fighting the last war.

Meanwhile, what is the REAL nightmare that could scare them today? It is the one we are familiar with: a group of activitists who get paid to hunt them down for the rest of our lives. That is VERY realistic. It will PAY MONETY. It will end when it stops paying money to go back and get somebody for what they did for white genocide in our age.

In other words, it will never end, and we have the example before us from the other side.

It is not a torchlight parade, it is realistic. Only a fool or a conservative would fail to use such a vehicle. It tells them what will happen if a group takes over that does not have William Buckley’s inferiority complex and groveling attitude toward those we are fighting.

It is in short 1 )probable, 2) workable and 3) common sense.

The comments on it from our side were entirely predictable:

1) Denazification BAD. BAD people did.

2) It is ridiculous for people in our hopeless position to talk about the results of victory… ALL IS LOST! and that is what we should be talking about,

3) Bob is not talking about JUSTICE. The sound of chest beating drowns out the rest, but it boils down to we should deport then or hold them morally responsible or some such muck.

I am looking for tactics which will 1) encourage or side and 2) is obviously realistic and therefore scary to our opponents. In the mass of predictable comments here and on Stormfront, that point was totally lost from the word Go.

I’ve just came across “The Untrained Eye” audio broadcasts on Bob’s Website. Very rarely do I listen to something so closely. If I don’t hear something right, I rewind it and listen to it again. These recordings are a wealth of ideas/facts/truths that I would recommend to anyone who’s interested in understanding Whitakerism.

I’m starting to realize that everything we need is located at this website. After spending time at the others, I can see why people sound so pessimistic. Enough Stormfront can result in being put on suicide watch.

Whitakerism is a doctrine of understanding, recognizing , and gaining power. Its too practical to waste time on the latest black on White crime. Its a “lean production” system which has vertically disintegrated all components that harm its efficiency. Its similar to a “Just-in-time” production strategy because it doesn’t waste resources on warehousing “bad news.” It has an comparative advantage on practical power projection. The manta produces more in one page than what dozens of books and websites have produced. That’s lean production. That’s post-Fordism.

What the Germans and Japanese did for the car industry, Whitakerism is doing for the White survival industry. It was while reading this site, I came up with the Diversity Price Curve. It goes as follows.

“Multiculturalism works just like an economic price curve. As we all know, when prices go up, demand goes down. The same is true for diversity. When the number of non-whites increases, the tolerance for them goes down.”

Of course I’m working on refining it. But the point is, it was this place which enabled me to expand my thoughts.

This is enough for now. I will return with more later.

There has been a lot of discussion of the University of Delaware’s Politically Correct Code for dorms. The discussion is on whether students can be “saved” from this. That is DEFENSIVE thinking.

No one can be salvaged who cannot take in the Mantra. It may not hit them now, but in the long run it is deadly to PC. But if you just counter PC like a conservative, you lose, as conservatives do.

Throw the MANTRA.

Throw the MANTRA.

Throw the MANTRA.

Throw the MANTRA.

AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

” It is said that there is this RACE problem. They say this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.”

“The Netherlands and Belgium are as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.”

“Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.”

“What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?”

“How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?”

“And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?”

“But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

“Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”

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