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		<title>By: shari</title>
		<link>http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2008/03/31/z-on-odinism/comment-page-1/#comment-42174</link>
		<dc:creator>shari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pain,  What you have said reminds me of this statement, &quot;the greatest joy spoils laughing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pain,  What you have said reminds me of this statement, &#8220;the greatest joy spoils laughing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the History Channel hates the Germans; they stopped the Jewish would-be World Revolution!  Next down are Anglo-Saxons, because we already ruled the world the Jews were sure they wanted.

&quot;Odinism&quot; bears no resemblance to the paganism of our forefathers.  Neither does Asatru.  The paganism of our forefathers was all about sacrificing the self to your tribe, like Tue (Tyr) with the Wolf and Woden (Odinn) on the tree.  But modern Odinism and Asatru are all about worshipping yourself, which is as Jewish as it gets.

Remember, modern Odinism teaches that the &quot;gods&quot; aren&#039;t real; they are just little pieces of yourself.  So if you worship a god, you are just worshipping you.  In other words, modern Odinism teaches something it knows does not exist -- a lie -- and it teaches you to worship yourself as a god -- a fraud.  Lies, fraud... 

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Bob-

The Norse loved wisdom.  That&#039;s what Havamal (High&#039;s Speech) is all about -- wisdom.  They distinguished between knowledge and wisdom.  I read Old Norse very well.  There are very specific words for each, and in the myths you are referring to, knowledge is not one of them.  Woden gave his eye for wisdom, not knowledge.  He sacrificed himself on the tree for runes -- for mysteries -- not knowledge.  Woden already had all the knowledge he needed, because as Sanngetall, he was the Begetter of Reality.

The Orient lacks a word for our wisdom.  Instead of the wisdom of the wiseman, they have the sagacity of the sage.  The sage is not wise.  He is whatever he says he is, because he is the sage.  He holds no authority, he holds power.

The sage is the modern sheriff of the Orient.  He pulls you over not so much for what you may have been doing, but because he can.  And he will tell you that.  Claim innocence however politely and meet his wrath.

Likewise, the sage is no wise man.

The reason is that the Orient mixes up authority with power and thus right with wrong.  Wisdom is the perception (wit) of your intelligence.  But Oriental sagacity is the monopoly of the officially recognized, approved -- and well-paid -- sage.  You cannot be a sage until a sage says you are a sage -- no matter how smart, wise, or useful you may be.

A good translation of Confucius or any other Oriental talker uses &quot;sage&quot;, not &quot;wise man.&quot;

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Now back to Odinism.  Our forefathers&#039; ancient paganism had two defining traits:  total chaos and pure selflessness.  The chaos, I believe was the fruit of two thousand years of Roman manipulation.  But their selflessness was what kept them together through all that.

Both traits led to a smooth conversion to Christianity.  Earlier, the chaos meant there was constant, malicious bloodshed threatening our racial existence -- exactly as Rome intended (divide et regula).  The selflessness meant the Germanic peoples knew there was something more than themselves and that they had the self-discipline to keep together once they found it.

The Volsunga Saga characterizes these traits of chaos and selflessness in great depth and detail.  It was written before the coming of the white Christ and was updated in the Niebelungenlied thereafter.  Our forefathers needed freedom from the chaos and bloodhsed.  They understood their paganism as being part of the darkest evil the world could sink to.  The story ends with the greatest of heroes having their hearts ripped out when still alive whiles the greatest hero of all, he who slew the dragon, betrays his oath to his true love, the nearly divine war-angel!  This would-be savior then dies in shame, having lost everything.  This was the great, lone epic that swept the north on the eve of Christ&#039;s coming to the wild forests and heath.

So then, our Germanic forefathers also had the self-disclipine to recognize the way out of hell when it came and had the necessary selfless loyalty to pull together as a race and choose the right way.

This choice immediately led to the greatest expansion of our Germanic forefathers in all our history.  Europe became theirs and then the world was ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the History Channel hates the Germans; they stopped the Jewish would-be World Revolution!  Next down are Anglo-Saxons, because we already ruled the world the Jews were sure they wanted.</p>
<p>&#8220;Odinism&#8221; bears no resemblance to the paganism of our forefathers.  Neither does Asatru.  The paganism of our forefathers was all about sacrificing the self to your tribe, like Tue (Tyr) with the Wolf and Woden (Odinn) on the tree.  But modern Odinism and Asatru are all about worshipping yourself, which is as Jewish as it gets.</p>
<p>Remember, modern Odinism teaches that the &#8220;gods&#8221; aren&#8217;t real; they are just little pieces of yourself.  So if you worship a god, you are just worshipping you.  In other words, modern Odinism teaches something it knows does not exist &#8212; a lie &#8212; and it teaches you to worship yourself as a god &#8212; a fraud.  Lies, fraud&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Bob-</p>
<p>The Norse loved wisdom.  That&#8217;s what Havamal (High&#8217;s Speech) is all about &#8212; wisdom.  They distinguished between knowledge and wisdom.  I read Old Norse very well.  There are very specific words for each, and in the myths you are referring to, knowledge is not one of them.  Woden gave his eye for wisdom, not knowledge.  He sacrificed himself on the tree for runes &#8212; for mysteries &#8212; not knowledge.  Woden already had all the knowledge he needed, because as Sanngetall, he was the Begetter of Reality.</p>
<p>The Orient lacks a word for our wisdom.  Instead of the wisdom of the wiseman, they have the sagacity of the sage.  The sage is not wise.  He is whatever he says he is, because he is the sage.  He holds no authority, he holds power.</p>
<p>The sage is the modern sheriff of the Orient.  He pulls you over not so much for what you may have been doing, but because he can.  And he will tell you that.  Claim innocence however politely and meet his wrath.</p>
<p>Likewise, the sage is no wise man.</p>
<p>The reason is that the Orient mixes up authority with power and thus right with wrong.  Wisdom is the perception (wit) of your intelligence.  But Oriental sagacity is the monopoly of the officially recognized, approved &#8212; and well-paid &#8212; sage.  You cannot be a sage until a sage says you are a sage &#8212; no matter how smart, wise, or useful you may be.</p>
<p>A good translation of Confucius or any other Oriental talker uses &#8220;sage&#8221;, not &#8220;wise man.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Now back to Odinism.  Our forefathers&#8217; ancient paganism had two defining traits:  total chaos and pure selflessness.  The chaos, I believe was the fruit of two thousand years of Roman manipulation.  But their selflessness was what kept them together through all that.</p>
<p>Both traits led to a smooth conversion to Christianity.  Earlier, the chaos meant there was constant, malicious bloodshed threatening our racial existence &#8212; exactly as Rome intended (divide et regula).  The selflessness meant the Germanic peoples knew there was something more than themselves and that they had the self-discipline to keep together once they found it.</p>
<p>The Volsunga Saga characterizes these traits of chaos and selflessness in great depth and detail.  It was written before the coming of the white Christ and was updated in the Niebelungenlied thereafter.  Our forefathers needed freedom from the chaos and bloodhsed.  They understood their paganism as being part of the darkest evil the world could sink to.  The story ends with the greatest of heroes having their hearts ripped out when still alive whiles the greatest hero of all, he who slew the dragon, betrays his oath to his true love, the nearly divine war-angel!  This would-be savior then dies in shame, having lost everything.  This was the great, lone epic that swept the north on the eve of Christ&#8217;s coming to the wild forests and heath.</p>
<p>So then, our Germanic forefathers also had the self-disclipine to recognize the way out of hell when it came and had the necessary selfless loyalty to pull together as a race and choose the right way.</p>
<p>This choice immediately led to the greatest expansion of our Germanic forefathers in all our history.  Europe became theirs and then the world was ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The history channel hates Germans.  I was watching some show about the plagues.  They mentioned how people across Europe were &quot;blaming Jews&quot; for poisoning the wells.  They &quot;reenacted&quot; a scene which showed people speaking English with German accents killing Jews.  They made them sound real evil-like.  The purpose was to make the Germans seem like the most evil people ever.

They also do this during &quot;Barbarian Week&quot; on the HC.  They have shows about the Goths, Vandals, and Lombard&#039;s which make the Germanic tribes out to be the white-trash of the classical period.  

Of course, then they&#039;ll show the &quot;very advanced&quot; African Zulu&#039;s or Bedouins, and talk about how &quot;complicated&quot; their social structures are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The history channel hates Germans.  I was watching some show about the plagues.  They mentioned how people across Europe were &#8220;blaming Jews&#8221; for poisoning the wells.  They &#8220;reenacted&#8221; a scene which showed people speaking English with German accents killing Jews.  They made them sound real evil-like.  The purpose was to make the Germans seem like the most evil people ever.</p>
<p>They also do this during &#8220;Barbarian Week&#8221; on the HC.  They have shows about the Goths, Vandals, and Lombard&#8217;s which make the Germanic tribes out to be the white-trash of the classical period.  </p>
<p>Of course, then they&#8217;ll show the &#8220;very advanced&#8221; African Zulu&#8217;s or Bedouins, and talk about how &#8220;complicated&#8221; their social structures are.</p>
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		<title>By: shari</title>
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		<dc:creator>shari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuesday is named for the god of war.  Wednesday is Wodan&#039;s day {Odin&#039;s day}.  Thursday, Thor&#039;s day. Friday, Freya&#039;s day.  I read some norse mythology eons ago in a book aimed at children, or young readers, but like most things that seem to have no more importance or relevance it&#039;s forgotten.  Looks like knowledge of old myths will also help white people regain their faith and sense of who they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuesday is named for the god of war.  Wednesday is Wodan&#8217;s day {Odin&#8217;s day}.  Thursday, Thor&#8217;s day. Friday, Freya&#8217;s day.  I read some norse mythology eons ago in a book aimed at children, or young readers, but like most things that seem to have no more importance or relevance it&#8217;s forgotten.  Looks like knowledge of old myths will also help white people regain their faith and sense of who they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2008/03/31/z-on-odinism/comment-page-1/#comment-42159</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was watching O&#039;Riely one day where he had a guest talking about White prison &quot;gangs.&quot;  The &quot;expert&quot; said that many of the &quot;gang&quot; members were Odinists.

O&#039;Reily made some ignorant remark like &quot;these gang members believe in Odin or something stupid like that?&quot;

I&#039;m not sure if that&#039;s the exact quote but it was very offensive?  Now if you ask a left winger, she would tell you that Muslims are the most persecuted religion in America.  

But do you think you&#039;d ever hear a hack like O&#039;Riely call Islam STUPID???

I think we all know the answer......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching O&#8217;Riely one day where he had a guest talking about White prison &#8220;gangs.&#8221;  The &#8220;expert&#8221; said that many of the &#8220;gang&#8221; members were Odinists.</p>
<p>O&#8217;Reily made some ignorant remark like &#8220;these gang members believe in Odin or something stupid like that?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if that&#8217;s the exact quote but it was very offensive?  Now if you ask a left winger, she would tell you that Muslims are the most persecuted religion in America.  </p>
<p>But do you think you&#8217;d ever hear a hack like O&#8217;Riely call Islam STUPID???</p>
<p>I think we all know the answer&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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