Archive for May, 2008
The point made by the Mantra was to ignore all of what the other side CHOOSES to say, and making clear the whole picture BEHIND it. No one does this on the term “ethnic cleansing.” In fact the solution to all our problems is presented as ethnic soiling of white countries.
Is ethnic soiling worth fighting for?
No one noticed when General Wesley Clark stated flatly that his troops were in the Balkans because, “there is no place for an ‘ethnically pure” country in Europe.” This is a great deal more than just objecting to VIOLENT ethnic cleansing. It was a statement of policy made by a man who would later be a candidate for the presidency that “assimilation” is to be enforced by the US.
No one noticed it but me.
Since no one objected to that statement, it became legitimate US policy. Any European country that stops immigration and becomes TOO “ethnically pure” in America’s opinion is subject to invasion. That is what the man SAID. America is willing to go to war from ethnic soiling, which is precisely what the Mantra says, if not MORE than the Mantra specifies.
Ethnic soiling is a principle America is willing to go to war to enforce in Europe.
A commenter mentioned in passing modesty, “I am not a futurologist.” Well, those of you who have read my stuff carefully may have noticed that I have just a little tendency TO look down on “experts.” My immediate reaction was to say that, precisely because of this lack of qualifications, the commenter wouldn’t make the dumbass mistakes futurology is famous for.
But since then I have deeply impressed by the discussion about the future between our commenters. The joy of a good professor’s life is to get things to the point where the discussion rolls on without him. Of course, good professors are a practically extinct species.
The reason futurology is such a fake is that no futurologist gives a damn about the future. Like every other “expert,” his job is to get grants and tenure NOW, not fifty years from now.
BUGS is precisely the opposite. Our ONLY concern is what the future will actually be like. THE FUTURE IS OUR BUSINESS.
The establishment gives grants and university money. You do not get money from them by saying that something awful might happen to them, or that they will be forgotten in times to come as other establishments have been.
I believe there a few differences in 2008 that has never been present before in the history of the world. We should be aware of them.
One, modern travel, the best and brightest our race could literally all move very quickly around the world. This is new. Ultimately, we could go to another planet completely.
Two, modern communication with minimal restrictions. The best and brightest of our race can communicate and create ethnocentric communities online. Thomas Paine wrote common sense and the printing press made him famous. Bob started BUGS and we will make his IDEAS and Mantra infamous. Information has never traveled this fast. This is new and revolutionary.
Three, there are such glaring differences between White countries and non-white countries. This will come to play as Eastern Europe leads an ethnocentric rise. Eastern Europe benefits from understanding Communism and Capitalism. They are not demoralized and are NOT likely to be anytime soon.
Time is NOT on the side of the Anti-Racists. Thanks to the internet the Eastern Europeans are reading the websites that everyone here reads when the Mexicans move into neighborhood. The Russians are reading them BEFORE they let in Mexicans.
I suggest you read the above article about ZENIT. The St Petersburg football team that has a racial recruitment policy. This is in St Petersburg. Which is supposedly cosmopolitan. If this is going on in 2008—It will only get better for our race as the differences become more obvious. The differences have become glaring to healthy Whites. All this is due to the new media!
I saw an interview with a Russian Nationalist that was put in the mainstream media. They asked him why he wanted Russian for the Russians. He pointed out the disaster of multi racialism in the UK and places in Europe. He stated on camera:”if you find that acceptable then you are not human”. And again if this were 1950 the propaganda would have hidden the multiracial problems. They can’t hide the problems anymore.
Those differences will matter down the stretch. When the wall of 2nd Generation Communism (Scientific Racism) comes down in White countries there will be an epic fight for “Genetic Capital”. I will go on record saying that Anglosphere will be in a huge disadvantage. White Countries with little to no 2nd Generation Communism will have a huge advantage. How would the UK or America be able to compete if Russia started offering money to smart young Aryans to move! Could you imagine? Don’t think it can’t happen.
So there are many differences between now and thousands of years ago. Namely, our race has expressed itself in a way that will prove truly liberating for those of our race that are smart and aware. Our technology has set us apart and will ultimately set us free. And you read it here first.
In Closing Richard, I agree with your observations. However, I have a different conclusion from these observations. If OUR RACE can survive with all these glaring challenges in our face, we are going to survive this last step. I actually get exited thinking about a newly settled planet full of Aryans and ONLY ARYANS somewhere out there in space. Don’t think it can’t happen. We are out of the dark age and for good.
As you always point out, Bob, nobody is more ready to admit the superior desirability of white genes than non-whites. Your usual example is the global popularity of Baywatch, until the blonde babe left. I always remember the little Indian girls I used to teach, drawing pictures of themselves as beautiful blonde princesses.
I learned recently that on the Congo riverboats, the native sailors have nicknames for the different decks – the first class deck is ‘Europe’, the second class is ‘China’ and the third class, where nobody wants to go, is ‘Congo’.
I’ve been thinking about the comment pointing out that the most valuable commodities in the illegal body-parts racket, presumably run by some of those Mafias, are reproductive organs of European women. As the commenter said, “European” does NOT mean naturalized non-whites.
I was also thinking about how anti-whites in OV always laugh at their own jokes. They repeat Mommy Professor’s oldest, stalest clichés and then put ROFL, showing how they have really hit us IGNUNT racists where it hurts.
I put the two together and imagined a scenario:
An anti-white goes to the Russian Mafia and sells some body parts from a body he says is European. Said Mafia then finds that the woman in question was black. Naturally they drop by his house to ask him some polite questions about this.
The anti-white then shows them naturalization documents that prove that the black woman in Question was a naturalized GERMAN. He then says, Hardeharhar! Got you! Rolling on the Floor Laughing!
I am not sure exactly what would happen next, but I AM sure that some new body parts would be on the market.
My concerns are the future of a century from now will seem to be – from the perspective of one of the Elite – damn near a different world.
We have seen what Cultural Eugenics could do in less than forty years, with Singapore.
My concern is two areas will merge – Artificial Intelligence, and Eugenics.
These areas are compounding out in terms of growth of knowledge, and could work together to usher in a phase shift event for Mankind, at the expense of Humanity – homo superior.
Take an extra 10% increase in intelligence, and compound it over several generations.
At a certain point, certain trends become obvious, and Homo Superior will look at us as we look at pets.
I have no doubt the Chinese are working on this full tilt; even Britain has admitted to “chimera” experiments – human/animal engineering.
We of the “Limits to Growth” crowd see what they will see – there is little to no need for about ninety percent of humanity.
It will make “Brave New World” seem like Paradise Island.
If I had my schooling to do over, I would have skipped the business courses, and taken a ton of biology, because the future will be shaped by Living Systems.
And not all of them will be “human,” as we know it.
Let me repeat this – ninety percent of humanity AS WE KNOW IT will be net negatives, in Malthusian terms.
I am brutally determined that MY nephews, and THEIR Posterity, will be on the Winning Team.
By. Any. Means. Necessary.
“A different WORLD.” Totally different TRENDS!
In an earlier piece u are talking about will happen faster than you think. You bring down one of the Absolute Inevitables of the Future, population growth.
In an earlier piece I mentioned the monumental importance of the end of the Mach 2.2 Supersonic Transport, the STT. It just didn’t catch on and died with a whimper, whereas every other major jump in civilian transportation speed had become part of the landscape. I seemed to be only one who noticed it was a hell of change when the latest Big Jump died.
Please note I did NOT predict an inevitable future in which we moved steadily back to stagecoaches I just noted that one of our most rigid Inevitables went away. On you point about populating, I remember a TV news item a generation ago when India decided to reduce her population explosion by using vasectomies.
It showed one Indian lying down in the train section to get a vasectomy. What was the Great Cultural Revolution they used to get him to do it? They gave him a small portable radio.
Maybe it is because I am so familiar with the third world, but I was always amused by the Great Sociologists and their Sophisticated Cultural Explanations of the huge families in the third world. You know, the Manhood by lots of Children stuff. Manhood by Large Families, to the extent it was true, was true because they were incapable of having anything BUT large families.
If you think whites traded off larger families for big houses and new cars and college educations, you ain’t seen nothing until you see transistor radios at work in the third world.
On Planet Earth, population GROWTH – not population yet — is dropping like a rock. That was my POINT about the future in the SST article. But commenters obsessed on the example instead of the LESSON.
“Ideology is dying, genetics is being born.” Simmons’s summation is the sort of thing we should be drawing out of these discussions of the future. AFKAN’s summary of the changeover from quantity to quality is this sort of lesson. We should be looking at TRENDS, not Popular Science-type “the latest thing” talk.
I was just reading a description of the present situation in San Francisco. In passing, they said, “as in most major cities, blacks are moving out.”
Twenty years ago the inevitable future was that major cities were all going to become ghettoes with all the affluent whites out in the suburbs. Nobody seems to notice that the “inevitable future” changes every decade or two like every other fad.
I was bemused by another point in the discussion It turns out that, as with “other major cities,” the whites moving in are HAVING TOO FEW CHILDREN. Now PLEASE don’t turn these little observations into a grand prediction of a grand revolution in thinking that is inevitable in the future. I just think it is healthy to keep pointing out how SILLY all these prophecies, INCLUDING THE PROPHECIES OF DOOM, are.
In 1900, the inevitable was represented by the phrase The Vanishing American. Indians were dying out. Ever since the end of slavery, when the black death rate suddenly doubled, blacks were an ever-decreasing portion of the American population. Blacks who moved north died because of their lack of “the sunshine vitamin,” Vitamin D, because their black skins blocked their getting adequate sun.
We all know what The Inevitable Future of Race was in 2000. Our job is to change it.
The same but different. How are we supposed to know unless you want us to sound like Popular Mechanics. Heck one time I mentioned Peak Oil you went junk yard dog on me. And I only mentioned it because plans would not be able to be made according to the “expert’s” predictions of limitless oil, nothing more.
To be constructive I will write that we must depose the story tellers of the 20th century. That they are Jewish supremacists only makes that easier since they have about alienated everyone. People like Jared Diamond, Gould, Adorno, Freud, Boas and their junior partners should be easy to set up as the fall guys since the latter two have fallen into the humor category.
If you want sound bites this is my first try; “Ideology is dying, genetics is being born.” Not very good but I’m in a hurry.
Cut the false modesty. ““Ideology is dying, genetics is being born.” Is the sort of brilliant summary I am looking for.
One of my continuing themes here is how ridiculous it is for people to talk about the “inevitable future.” It is on of their main weapons to discourage us. Having had so many years of this, you naturally react as if I were PREDICTING the future. That is one of the purposes of my piece below.
I did jump on you when you first mentioned Peak Oil because it sounded like that, but you forget that I later discussed it seriously.
The comments on my discussion of the future were generally unfriendly, but you did actually address it this time, which is quite an improvement. I’ve had plenty of unfriendly comments in my life, and if I have to get you het up to give some material to address, the effort has been a success.
The last two paragraphs of Simmons’s reply more than made up for his bruising of my delicate ego.
If you compare turn-of-the-century radiotelegraph to the TV networks of the 1950s, and notice things move FASTER now, you can get a look at how I view the coming century. Look at us as 1908 instead of 2008, instead of wireless radio, look at biological advances.
I remember when cloning was declared impossible, about two decades ago. I remember when heart transplants were declared impossible, and then when those who had declared them impossible were banking on the fact that patients only lived a few extra months or years.
So I will put a news time here, which I seldom do:
SAN ANTONIO, Texas (CNN) — Last week in an operating room in Texas, a wounded American soldier underwent a history-making procedure that could help him regrow the finger that was lost to a bomb attack in Baghdad last year….
What the usual discussion of this would produce would be a set of comments by Super Doctor Gillboob saying this is nonsense or Respected Finger Specialist Gottlieb saying this one won’t work or Harvard Ethics Professor Finklestein saying it’s Evil and Pat Robertson backing him up. I would also receive the usual statement about the different between embryonic stem cells and others.
My idea of the future is entirely different. I have been described by those who have know me for decades as “so right it’s CREEPY” about the future because I see a PICTURE, not a bunch of current news or current commentary. I see a PICTURE.
As I said, I look at this finger replacement ATTEMPT the way I would have looked at wireless telegraphy as Marconi moved from sending signals room to room to sending them across his yard and so forth, year after year.
The reason Georgia dentist Crawford Long’s anesthesia was rejected and patients had to have surgery in agony for years was because, when he demonstrated nitrous oxide, the patient GROANED. That happened with NO2 though the patient was deep under. It justified the experts that anesthesia was impossible.
Cute joke. Look what it COST!
But Crawford Long clearly demonstrated that doctors were TRYING anesthesia long before they finally found out what the far more dangerous method later adopted was tested out. It was the key to the FUTURE, which is my concern.
If we are to influence the future, we must have a clear idea of what it will NOT be like. ALL our present discussions of the future are hopelessly mired in what IS and the expectations drawn from what IS.
I have discussed this before, but had no real comments on it. That was why I was so ecstatic to see Prometheus’ exposition on temporal provincialism below.
Has anybody ever studied Whites in prehistory? It’s depressing.
There were White Eurasian tribes in North and South America 9,000 years ago. They were wiped out by the Amerindians. Same in China and many other places. A combination of conquest and interbreeding.
Presumably there weren’t any Jews around in those days. We could do the job pretty well by ourselves.
All those centuries living in the frozen north during the Ice Age made us superior in many ways, but they took away our natural defences. You could only survive and pass on your genes if you were prepared to help and share, so we bred a race that was too trusting. Living among other more selfish races, we didn’t stand a chance.
Bob’s right when he says the future belongs to the few whites who have inherited immunity to the ‘white guilt’ virus. I just hope there are enough of them to sustain a people.
I can’t speak for whites nine thousand years ago. I was much younger and less observant back then. As I remember my big interest at that time was developing a palatable recipe for mammoth stew.
In more recent millennia, our big problem has been that we developed a unique way of thinking. No other race ever asked whether life itself was WORTH LIVING. Hinduism and Buddhism came in an age when it wasn’t. Their goal was not, as we Christians misinterpret it, achieving Heaven or Nirvana, but achieving total annihilation, total oblivion, escape from the Wheel of Life represented by eternal reincarnation.
Modern Political Correctness is totally white supremacist in this sense. There is no question of a question in Politically Correct doctrine that the white race, and ONLY the white race, would consider self-annihilation the ultimate virtue. It would never occur to any adherent of our established religion that a black man or a Jew or an Oriental would consider the end of his own genotype to be a VIRTUE.
No one commented on the USEFULNESS of the term “Ethnic Soiling” as I specifically asked you to. What I got back was wandering thoughts.
AFKAN spent hundreds of words justifying his train-of-thought long pieces. All writers do that early on.
Long writing is lazy writing. Montaigne said it hundreds of years ago:
“If I had had more time, I would have written less.”
Rewriting, tightening up, is what makes writing for the market so HARD. Writing to be read is a matter of courtesy to the reader. As Pain points out, it also gets your important points READ.
If I address that Montaigne quote at AFKAN, another one of his quotes could have been addressed to ME:
“If I expected everything I say to be believed, I would not write.”
About everything I criticize, especially when it comes to writing, is a sin I myself have committed down through the decades and STILL repeat. For years readers here had to beat me over the head to get me to CONSISTENTLY take the simple step of putting my pieces in Word and check for errors before publishing them. Reading through my pieces where I left in all those errors, a sin which AFKAN does NOT commit, was a pain in the ass.
I have been in this game professionally for a long, LONG time, and I see laziness in AFKAN’s work
If I didn’t, AFKAN would be the only writer in history who never did lazy writing.
I wouldn’t make this objection if I didn’t think AFKAN’s points were worth it.
Someone sent me those two words.
I think that by now you know how to use that phrase. I want some responses on this. I want YOU to explain how to use it and why it is so valuable to us.
I want seminar members to start explaining BASICS here. AFKAN needs to cut back on the verbiage and go into Movements Past in a tight thinking way. A new member whom I asked to register said in passing that Rushton has to stay with some political correctness in order to do his job. I want him toe explain that. Each person has a ROLE to play in our movement, Dr. Duke on Jews, Pat Buchanan says things that only he can say, but that also requires his remaining a national columnist. I had to be disgustingly mainline when I made my living in politics.
This does not make it all right, but it is a necessity we who regard this as a war on many fronts must see and analyze clearly, and I am tired of doing all the analyzing. It is WORK tying down the very specific and subtle points here, and it is time YOU started doing it YOURSELF.
I also need people to tell me whether I am making this CLEAR. Too often my statements about what I need from YOU get no comments at all. But that is a major portion of my job here, and I need to know you are paying attention.
When it comes to “attempts at organization” there are no slights of hand, color TV notwithstanding.
The German people, a people with a hardwired native competence, were saddled with governments that lacked sobriety and proportionality during the first half of the 20th century (they were not alone in this among the peoples of the world at the time). These governments were full of folly, being organized by conceited personalities, who tended to confuse their own careers with the destiny of their of their own nation, eventually falling pray to self-created myths and their delusional millennialism.
Nevertheless, the German people went on being natively competent both during the long trajectory of their ruin and afterwards when they astonishingly and rapidly repaired things (which you would expect of such a competent people).
But at the end of the day (May 1945) their successive one-off governments of folly did one thing supremely competently: It very competently handed off the baton of its millennialist folly to Political Correctness, a force that has been running wholeheartedly with it ever since.
That’s because refuges in Wordism and millennialism have staying power, seemingly with us perennially. And when Politically Correct zealots return (yet again, again, and again endlessly) to their favorite haunt of denouncing Nazism, to me at least, it is certainly a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
It never occurs to the anti-white whites (in the delusional millennialism they share with the very thing they denounce) that morally they are no friends of nonwhite people. And believe it or not, it has occurred to many of the more thoughtful coloreds, and other nonwhites, that perhaps the cult of Martin Luther King, the hordes of anti-whites whites, and the whole integrationist Politically Correct “civil rights” trajectory has, in fact, worked against their real long-term interests.
This is because there is no substitute for sobriety and proportionality and realism in life. There is also no substitute for the related attitude of calm and poise that goes along with it. It is this attitude that puts race relations to rights, and encourages people to organize their affairs and relations in a wholesome and realistic way. This encourages a responsible reining in of the hotheads, the millenialists, the BELIEVERS, and the (mentally and emotionally) disproportionate and fearful of every stripe.
But bear this in mind: Once you SEE, once you really have accurate visibility, there remains the greatest barrier to “sight” of all, and that barrier is the fulcrum of interpersonal trust (or lack of it) that underlies all relations.
There is no “gaining visibility” on the issue of trust. There is no “SEEING”. When it comes to trusting others, you can only “believe”.
And that is why I believe nonwhite people want the white race to succeed and fill the roles of “creators”, “governors”, and “anchors” for the world that nature seems to have assigned for us.
This view is greatly at odds with the views of the Politically Correct millenialists. And this view is also greatly at odds with most of the opponents of Political Correctness (who in my view are for the most part delusional millenialists themselves).
Accordingly, we white nationalists have a row to hoe. And that row is hoed one step at a time, patiently, in proportionality, in sobriety, in realism, with an attitude of calm bearing and poise (especially toward the challenges of our adversaries).
That is how I think it is done.
Back in the 1970s an Arkansas Republican made one of those obviously true observations that gets people into trouble. His party had just won a big election and he said that it was because Israel was in a crisis at the time, and the Jewish money that would have gone to the liberal candidate had been diverted to that vital campaign for Israel.
This was the sort of exposure of the obvious that REALLY infuriates the establishment because it so obviously true and it makes the Jewish outlook so obvious. I haven’t seen anybody make the equivalent point about our post-Communist world, so I will make it.
While the Communist Empire was around a major share of the money and power of the media and the left was dedicated to fighting its battles. The desperate, giant last-ditch fight to end the Strategic Defense Initiative and Reagan’s ratcheting up the killing pressure on the Soviets took up a major share of the resources of the left. Those resources have not disappeared, so like that Arkansas Republican, there is room for lone heretic to ask where they have gone.
I, alone, have pointed out repeatedly where a major portion of those resources have gone. I have noted that the moment the Soviet Empire collapsed, every single leftist switched overnight from a socialist to an environmentalist. No one else seems to have noticed this BASIC rule.
The situation for leftists is a lot like that of the Jews if Israel disappeared. Their ideological homeland is gone. But the goals are the same. Leftists want the priesthood of Political Correctness to rule. When they lost the Professor-rule in Moscow, they instantly switched to Kyoto.
Jewish strategy is equally consistent. Like Emma Lazarus, who wrote the words on the Statue of Liberty and was a lifelong dedicated Zionist, Jews want 1) to destroy all other identities, and 2) to make t Jewish identity the only legitimate one. Dershowitz is as obvious about this today as Lazarus was well over a century ago.
Dershowitz has Lazarus’s consistent theme, 1) he is constantly worried about the disappearance of Jews and 2) he is totally dedicated to ridding the earth of the white race. He makes comments about how blacks and whites don’t kiss enough on television. What is enormously frustrating to me is that anti-Semites do not point to this obvious reality, but keep presenting Jews as supernatural Satans, which is precisely the argument they have centuries of practice countering.
The fact is that getting rid of the Soviet Empire gives us a clear shot at our enemies. I had to hold my nose and join with respectable conservatives to fight the ideological homeland of our enemies. I seem to be the only person on our side who has NOTICED this fundamental reality has changed.
In the real world of our real war, the role of respectable conservatives has not changed in the post Communist era. Their function has always been to divert attention from the real struggle, but in the case of the nuclear-powered Soviets they were actually facing a REAL enemy, a critical part of the enemy left.
Like the leftists who have morphed into environmentalists, the respectable right has had to find another way to do the same thing WITHOUT the Soviet Empire. They have morphed into anti-Arabs under the banner that we must not be divided by race in the face of the Real Enemy.
My point is that this is the basic REALITY. But no one MENTIONS it.
In the new world we must cut the old crap and take a new look at the old reality. In AFKAN’s “Movement Past” leftists who were peaceniks were still our enemies. In the new reality leftists who are peaceniks are potential allies. But what is critical here is that we must look upon this, not as a Revelation, but as a simple reality of power politics.
Less tomes, more logic.
We have an argument that is easy to accept, rather than a battle for Revealing the Truth about the outright pro-Communist efforts of the left.
Simple logic, bringing people to simple reality, is our BUGS specialty.
You went ahead and took over the seminar here, which is my biggest ambition for BUGS.
Let me cite one example in these comments of our difference from others. It is only one.
Not the least benefit of being part of the only real seminar on earth is learning again what a seminar or a moot IS. The exchanges in the Tim comments show a group of equals going at each other but as a TEAM.
This is a very critical distinction. If you read these statements, you will see something unique. This is not an ARGUMENT with each person trying to justify himself.
Simmons makes a statement about Tim that would totally sidetrack all discussion on Stormfront. Instead of the SF, “God, how DARE you accuse me of that?!” Tim used it as a basis for some hard thinking. In other words, Tim’s reaction was not to fight back because Simmons was not being diplomatic.
This is two separate points. First, Tim did not RUSH back to counterattack. He thought about what Simmons had brought up to make it a part of a CONTRIBUTION here. Second, Tim did not regard his role her as just arguing with Simmons. Simmons was not being diplomatic; he was making his CONTRIBUTION as he saw it.
That is what separates a TEAM, or Moot, approach from the stuff we are used to and are trying to GROW out of.
Put in basic terms, we regard ourselves not as debating individuals in competition but as a TEAM trying to get at the TRUTH. We have plenty of tolerance for a lack of diplomacy or bad examples of the sort I often use, but we are mutually the enemies of NONSENSE.
Brilliant posts Dave. Especially the previous one about minorities vying to stay near whites. I have read all about the riots in South Africa and seen the grisly photos. There are not enough whites to go around. I am all for cloning BOB’s.
Most Americans only watch the news on cable. That is changing with the internet. I believe a surprising number of Americans are becoming more savvy about what is going on around the globe. This is only natural as you get your news online. They are turning to the internet for news in shocking numbers.
When your neighborhood gets destroyed by Mexicans you become more aware about the wonders of diversity. That is only natural. Then you do a search online and find out there are plenty of budding racists just like you. On the internet, we are never alone. If racism were a stock, I would go long. Stormfront Futures.
I am SO glad Tim did some THINKING about the world WE have to operate in. Tim is the OPPOSITE of the torchlight procession crap so many in SF concentrate on. This is a brilliant summation of our present situation and what WE must look to.
It is depressing to see young people waste their lives talking about the Glory Days of the Third Reich.
Yes I said depressing, not scary. It is natural for frustrated young leftists to have pictures of Che Guevara and for frustrated young pro-whites to carry around swastikas. Getting all excited about that is as pointless as bitching about the Law of Gravity. When dealing with young people, I don’t get all het up screaming I’m not a Nazi. Healthy young people grab the most extreme thing they can find.
But when it becomes an obsession, it is a DEPRESSING waste of precious time. Young people can understand the flow of technology in a way that is hard for old guys like me. They need to USE that understanding.
What is the REAL lesson we can learn from Hitler? In fact, what is the REAL lesson we can learn from Lenin? Their ideologies fitted into 1918 Russia and 1920s Germany. That is not what we have to learn from them. The real lesson they have for us is that of POLITICAL GENIUSES.
Let’s look at what Hitler did POLITICALLY. He took Germany from the established leadership of giants like Hindenburg and Ludendorf. How did he do that? For one thing, though he was a vegetarian and a teetotaler, he went to the place where he could get lots of Germans to LISTEN to him. Hitler did his big work, not in the torchlight parades which RESULTED from his earlier work, but in the BEER HALLS where the hard-drinking Hindenburgs and Ludendorfs would never have set foot.
In other words, Hitler looked around and found the VEHICLE he needed. Our vehicle, as Tim so brilliantly points out, is the explosion of technology in the NEW century. In a young person’s lifetime today, the changes Tim describes will seem as primitive as crystal radios did in the age of television.
All the old communications monopolies are becoming as outdated as Western Union. Genetic engineering will determine the future of human evolution. So when young people OBSESS over torchlight parades and “Let’s get out on the streets and FIGHT” it is just plain depressing.
Like the torchlight parades, we’ll get out there and fight when we’re READY. In the meantime, the WORK is in today’s beer halls like the Internet.
The world is of full ironies. There is no economic problem in a well-ordered society. There are bees for honey, cows for milk, and orchards for fruit. The stewardship of these is placed in competent hands for those living in the present and for those yet to be born.
The “family”, accordingly, is sustained through descent with an inheritance that grows and is not wasted or dissipated. Marriages are properly supported and capital is properly husbanded so that marriages can succeed and children are raised in security.
But this is not the reality. The reality is the dominion of criminals who see to it that dereliction is officially sanctioned and that ruin is encouraged. Hence “carnival rides”. These criminals have a vested interest in the dissipation of capital because their object is theft, not husbandry.
Look at the “Greatest Generation”, for example. We have been subject to over 65 years of the romanticizing of the violence of WW II. Even where that violence is strongly condemned, it is covered with a patina of romance, the “Holocaust” included.
But what is never confronted is the reality of the dominion of criminals and their evil for that is what WW II really was, a situation where the restraints were entirely lifted from criminals who went about committing crimes without any fear of retribution.
Have you ever heard a member of the “Greatest Generation” mention this? Or mention the fact that the lifting of the restraints upon those with a proclivity toward criminality was universal?
And those members of the” Greatest Generation” who were actually thrown into combat never honestly talked about it, not because of the horrors, but because they were fully aware of the enormity of the crimes that were committed and of their personal subordination and cowardly attitude toward those crimes and toward the criminals committing them.
They in fact recoiled at the romanticizing of the War at home. Nevertheless, it was heresy for them to mention it. They dare not, and did not.
Did Stephen Spielberg ever catch even one little sliver of that truth in his abominable portrayals of “history”?
He did not because Spielberg’s vested interest is in the sanctioning and promotion of dereliction for profit, and the encouragement of ruin, an object he shares with most of the Hollywood film industry.
But the takeaway is this: Evil is for real. Criminals are for real. They hold dominion over large swaths of life. They are widely and officially celebrated and we are forever encouraged to subordinate ourselves to them. It has always been so, and in that, nothing ever seems to change.
It is taken for granted today that for youth in the entire third world (Japan included) the most important marker for prestige, status, and opportunity is the ability to speak English.
Our MSM media ignores this phenomenon entirely.
For example, the crush of African youth from French Africa wanting into Gambia for access to English speaking Africans is so overwhelming, Gambia must strictly control access from the surrounding countries, for without the ability to speak English, the only emigration opportunity for African young people is France with its high unemployment, or Spain with its impossibility of work visas.
In India, the ability to speak English is the major class marker as it is for the Chinese (who have as difficult a time of getting proximity to English speaking people as young people in French Africa).
But my point is the unmistakable and ever increasing desperation of third world youth who will do anything to get proximity to white people and their languages. They see it both as a matter of survival and class distinction.
We are now entering a phase where nonwhites are defending their proximity to white people violently as exemplified in the anti-immigration riots (against refugees from Zimbabwe) occurring in South Africa. (Of course, nonwhite South Africans don’t perceive it as that owing to the reality of their racial segregation, but that is what is really occurring if you look at it from an economic dependence perspective.)
Meanwhile, the affluent classes throughout Asia will do anything to look more Caucasian and Black Africans will do anything to acquire mulatto children, a mark of high prestige throughout Black Africa.
Want to make money? Market an effective skin lightener in Asia. Your fortune will be assured.
None of this, not one wit of it, is reported honestly in our MSM.
It is just absurd. It really is. Meanwhile, most white Americans know none of this. They are completely ignorant.
“Never lose sight of it.” Losing sight is what makes thinking all of life is a series of carnival rides does. Not merely enjoying something. And then there are Christ’s words about it not profiting to gain the whole world and losing your own soul. Not a good trade off.
It’s interesting how profundists like me and AFKAN are more and more taking Shari’s comments as our starting point. As we say down South, That gal is about half BRIGHT.” I read her summation and it gets my brain into action.
As usual, I am not agreeing with or disagreeing with what she says. There’s too much common (What a misnomer!!) sense in what Shari says to leave any room for disagreement. Good comments provide a springboard. The above statement hit me between the eyes because it reminded me of how professional preachers use Christ’s words as a springboard for them to prove their own importance, their own detailed Biblical knowledge, and how little they read what he said and then THINK about what HE meant.
Take the Lord’s Prayer. We are told that the thing to do is to repeat it endlessly, or, as Jesus said, “Many thin they will achieve salvation by much saying.” But if you look at the context, that is exactly what he was NOT advocating.
What Jesus was saying when he recited the Lord’s Prayer was, “It is enough to call a fish a fist.” He was contrasting what one should say to God to what was being done at the Temple, where endless hours were spent praising God and talking, talking, talking.
No wonder they ended up having to crucify him. Nothing could have been as infuriating to the Temple priesthood as Jesus’s reducing all their endless chants to a simple, bare, stark petition to God for what a person needed while he DID good things. We need bread to keep us going, forgive us IF and to the extent that we do the same for others; provide as few temptations to us weak humans as you can.
One minute long. All those endless hours Temple priests made their living on meant very little.
Then there is the rich young man. How many sermons have been devoted to Jesus’s instructing the young man to give all he had to the poor? They build whole social systems and Marxist Liberation Theology on that. But what Jesus said was, “If you would be PERFECT, sell all you have, give it to the poor, and FOLLOW ME.” Listening to the average sermon you would think the last three words were never spoken.
The question Jesus was answering was NOT, “Lord, what is the ideal socioeconomic system?” The question was, “What must I do to be SAVED?” The answer was, “Follow me, and nothing else.” The man’s property was a detail, and earnest of really abandoning all and following Jesus.
Modern “Christians” intensely dislike the idea that Jesus really meant it when he said “My kingdom is not of this world.” One of the perversions that have destroyed the “Christian” right has been their turning him into a fanatical Israeli nationalist. That was precisely what frustrated the Jews of his own time. The rejection of Zionist nationalism is EXACTLY what Jesus was renouncing when he said, “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.”
The Modernists were terribly upset with the idea that Jesus was really as obsessed with the Next Life. Now the “Christian” Right is rejecting that same idea. They are deeply upset at the idea that Jesus was betting everything on the Next Life. How can they keep their dues-paying congregation in church if they don’t give them a Guide to Better Living and Political Truth, and just keep talking about some Next Life?
Sorry, gang, that is what Jesus WAS obsessed with. Every word he said to thetrich young man and to everyone else had nothing to do Political Relevance. When he speaks to us, he speaks of what is needed to save our particular souls. It is altogether personal.
Frankly, I have not the slightest need of one more political philosopher. If Jesus was wrong about the eternal future of the soul, he was openly, totally, gloriously wrong. The woods are full of world view philosophers like me. But Jesus, to use Lawrence Brown’s words, “towers above history” precisely because he had a unique message, a total, uncompromising commitment to the idea that he, and he ALONE, knew how to save my personal soul.
Jesus was that absolutely unique phenomenon, a man who was either totally right or totally wrong. And he put EVERYTHING on the line for it. No Buddha, no Confucius, no Aristotle is fit to tie his shoes in terms of pure moral courage.
Besides watching all the documentaries, I also go on e-Bay from time to time and order some old magazines. As I read them, I apply them to today. Things jump out at me that others don’t even notice.
I read the November, 1932 Time Magazine and note the quotes from every expert that a restoration of the Kaiser is an absolute certainty. With the recent election, the NSDAP and the Communists held a majority in the Reichstag, so no government could be formed without including one of them. No way would Hindenburg allow the Stalinists in, so he would look to the extreme right. In 1932 the extreme right was Kaiser Bill, then in exile in the Netherlands.
The 1923 Time Magazine discussion of the failed Munich Putsch described Hitler as a “monarchist.’
This is directly relevant
In 1923 and 1932 World War I totally dominated our world view. Nobody bothered to know anything about Hitler, and everybody knew all about the Kaiser. The result was laughable absurdity. Today all discussion of race is a dominated by our world view which includes World War II and civil rights. The result is laughable absurdity.
Today race is a matter of 1933 torchlight parades. It is a million Germans showing up at the Nuremberg rally of 1936, chronicled in the latest thing, a talk movie by Leni Riefenstahl.
In short, all discussion in 1932 was dominated by 1918. That is how popular NEWS is made, and the magazine that looked to the future instead of the past did not connect with the minds of THEIR own day.
On the one hand there is NEWS and on the other hand there is an accurate view of the FUTURE. The twain never meets, and we must LEARN that. I have lost patience with those who concentrate on NEWS and the past.
From the point of view of the FUTURE, a commenter made the critical point that the most valuable commodities the biological market are the eggs of a white woman. We don’t see that in the media, but not only because it is embarrassing to Political Correctness. More important, no one watching TV news would UINDERSTAND it.
I want to talk to people who DO understand the MEANING of that. In the COMING technology, genes will be a CHOICE. The only discussion of this comes in quoting the alliance of Harvard “ethics” professors and fundamentalists who want it not to happen. I don’t have time or patience to waste my time on one more bunch of people who want the future NOT to happen.
Luddites were big news, but they are a historical aside.
When KDKA broadcast the 1920 presidential election in the first real broadcast it was NEWS. But no one foresaw television and its role in the FUTURE. Now we put down the Internet because it is not TV NEWS.
In short we keep doing the same thing over and over. We do not learn the lesson on the FUTURE. In the future the choice of genes will be NEWS, but the real FUTURE will be an extension of something that is, at most, a minor blip in the NEWS.
Aldous Huxley used to say, “Differences among ‘human beings’ are so great that it is astonishing they breathe the same air.”
Huxley was considered a “lefty”, so go figure how a man who could utter such a statement gets the “lefty” label.
Huxley was an opponent of Wordism and committed to real science. He considered the term “mankind” to be a profound distortion of the truth.
We are all “primates”, yes, and can share language, yes, let us leave it at that.
The differences among us are enormous. They can’t even be measured in terms of light years for there are qualitative differences among “men” that create an unbridgeable separation among them.
That, in fact, is the way the world works. Never lose sight of it.
in reply to Shari:
Thanks for your thoughts!
I’d like to tie my response into the “Jammed Brains” topic of this thread, and then discuss part of what I am doing with my nephews to insure the jamming does not take place.
I’ve always had the belief the System was lying to us, big time, and the stories and histories we were given were not true, and were not true in some deep, substantial manner.
When I read the Frank Herbert’s novel “Dune,” I thought he was really discussing human consciousness, and how it is shaped by society to serve social ends. This is the underlying theme of Herbert’s work – shaping and structuring human consciousness.
So, when Bob talked about Wordism, I remembered my readings of Hoffer, and of Hayakawa, and my Marketing Research course, taught by a singularly ruthless man.
Seeing my nephews in the light of where they came from, and I can see how so many were trapped in the hills in more ways than one. If you’re nice, clean, upper-class church holds coat drives for poor people in the winter, these are the people whose clothing are hand-me-downs.
So is their thinking – the public school system exists to serve the local employers, who want trainable drones; that the local employers all left had no effect on the school system, whose curriculum is on autopilot.
THOSE are the people who, for the most part, composed “Movement Past,” and their brains are jammed with lies, half-truths, and the dreams of the powerless.
They posed more of a threat to themselves than they do any system of governance…
I’ve spent a lot of time wondering why “Movement Past” didn’t make any of the headway it should have, given the political realities it was facing.
I’ve broken it down to two factors:
One, most of the Leadership of “Movement Past” was Greatest Generation. Relentlessly submissive to authority, they waited for the Leader, and followed the most conspicuous Leader they could, who used the symbols they had been indoctrinated to follow.
So, for instance, Pierce used Kevin Alfred Strom’s words on American Dissident Voices broadcasts, and they listened, just like they did when they were younger man, to the quietly wise voice of an old, wise man.
Strom’s words, and Pierce’s speaking, inspired them, and gave them comfort, of a sort, in a world win which they were destined, at best, to be marginal, at best.
They, and their fathers, came out of the hills – no tv in those days, particularly in the hills, and most anywhere, for poor people – and listened to the radio, while they were told what to think about World War II, and Korea, and even the early phases of Viet-Nam.
The symbols used to control their thinking had been implanted, and they reacted to them damn near blindly.
These were all they had to hold onto, in a world in which they were becoming increasingly marginalized, every day.
And they had been lied to.
Still, “Movement Past” included fat men wearing camo BDU’s, adopting the Forms and Symbols of POWER when they were young men, without the Substance of Power to fill the empty Forms.
Daily, they grew older, poorer, and broker and they could not understand why this was happening.
So they retreated – blaming “the Communists,” and, in time, “The New World Order,” and you name it. They did not have a Positive Framework in which to place their efforts, and transform their Identities.
They used the Forms of the Past with greater intensity, to lesser avail…
Two, “Movement Past” seems damn near calculated to AVOID dealing with the issues before them in an intelligent manner, starting with the foundation of a Positive Theory of Race.
Thus the fat, subpotent alcoholics – which is what far too many of them had become – filled yesterday’s Forms, with yesterday’s Substance – the failed Substance of a day that had passed, and no one understood why, much less what to do about it. So they did the wrong things with ever-greater enthusiasm, until they were too old to do it anymore, and put aside their hooded robes, and contented themselves with the jobs they still at the factory.
And then the job went away and soon the factory closed down largely because they all missed the larger issues. I have been reading Beinhocker’s “Origins of Wealth,” and realize his models hold true in biological systems – organic systems – as well.
The Foundation of Society is Family. Jobs come and go, employers come and go, but the family remains, and the most successful Families are extended Families.
In his discussion of tmporal provincialism below Prometheus gave the best example yet of something I am trying to encourage here, TIGHT thinking. This is exactly the opposite of the kind of comment you so often see on SF, where a person uses a thread to wander off into his pet repetition of something he would have said if the person starting the thread had never been born or as a chance to put in some news item about Iraq or JEWS or something.
Prometheus had a thought and he put it down. He thought about how anti-whites use dates, explained it, and QUIT. The compliment to the rest of us is that he then left it to US to expand on his observation. He thought it out and put it out there. It is tight, it follows, and it becomes food for our minds.
Contrast this to the “education” we are overcoming. We have learned to listen to every word Mommy Professor says and regurgitate it, preferably word for word, in exact detail. I know this intimately. When I was a graduate assistant, the professor would tell me how to grade papers. On each “essay” question a student was supposed to say certain things, so many points for each thing regurgitated.
The last thing an “essay” question asked for was an essay. An essay is a discussion of a subject which consists of YOUR OWN interpretation of it. An essay is what YOU have to say about it. What is called an essay question in college is exactly the same as a multiple-choice test, except that you have to put in the right choices on a blank sheet.
The exact same perfect contradiction exists in what is called a “seminar” course. I always considered it rather funny when I got there before the FINAL EXAM in what was called a GRADUATE seminar course. The students would be sitting there comparing notes and cramming on what Mommy Professor had told then in the course.
Which was exactly what they had done before a final exam as freshman.
Which was exactly what they had done when they were HIGH SCHOOL freshmen. In modern “education” you never grow up. That is why BUGS is the only surviving example of an otherwise extinct animal, a real, honest-to-God GRADUATE SEMINAR. There will be no final exam. I can tell how well you are doing by the DISCUSSION you present, since a SEMINAR is by definition a DISCUSSION, not a COURSE.
In real education, making you repeat the multiplication table is what a grammar school teacher does. But I would walk in and see a bunch of graduate students in a so-called graduate seminar sitting around and cramming on what amounted to another example of a multiplication table.
As far as Mommy Professor is concerned grad students are still six years old.
So when I say that BUGS is for people who have outgrown their college education, whether they had one or not, it is not just a “cute” statement as SFers would generally think. It is a profound truth. My profound truths are simple, and a weak mind will assume that they are therefore childish and go on to repeat what they think is Profound.
Just the opposite. ADULT thinking is TIGHT thinking. It is the opposite of regurgitation. It is Porch Talk. Adult thinking is making an observation and then leaving it to other minds to expand on it. Old grandpa out on the porch had more respect for his grandchildren’s minds than any Mommy Professor is capable of.
Just wanted to share a thought that popped in my head late one night.
Anti-whites hate discrimination for whatever reason, but there is one kind of discrimination they engage in, and it discriminates against most people that ever lived in this planet.
TIME discrimination. They often say, “This is 2008, not the 1950’s” or “This is the 21st century, not the 19th”. “We don’t hold that backwards, racists beliefs anymore”
What they are saying, is that prior to this year, or these past few decades, everyone was a racist bigot and everyone held views which are today contemptible.
Talk about disparaging most of the humans who ever lived.
Maybe is a silly though, but say something negative about blacks living in violent ghetto and get your head bitten off.
Say that ever human that existed before you held fundamentally wrong and horrid beliefs, and its all
Read BUGS comments a couple of years back and now. You will see a complete change around. Our people are thinking in OUR terms. We are talking ORIGINALITY, not just applying whatever is said here to the standard old line, “Well, that just proves that X was right, the JEWS did it” and so forth..
Uniquely among those in our movement, OUR brains are unjamming.
Political Correctness, as we all know damned well, exists only because we accept its Big Lies. As AFKAN says, what we lack is a POSITIVE racism. They hit us with the Big Lies and we argue with the Big Lie on THE BIG LIE’S OWN TERMS. Our brains are jammed. We never get OUT of the Big Lie.
It is surprisingly easy to get OUTSIDE the Big Lies. It invariably EFFECTIVE to change the terms of the debate. But our brains are as rusted as there are. A documentary says that Thomas Jefferson, from a Welch family, had some Phoenician genes. This proves, they say, that Jefferson was an African, and since he didn’t LOOK African, it proves that looks don’t matter.
It is likely that, due to the ancient tin mines in Britain, Jefferson might have had some Phoenician blood, as do many of the Welsh.
Instead getting tied up in that crap, I simply point out that what it proves is that Phoenicians did not look the way documentaries portray them. Like people of that day in general, they were white. One sentence and their whole load of crap is turned on them.
When the debate gets on to how the Plague ended, I point out below that it was simple GENETICS. The people who died of plague had less and less genes in each generation, so the plague, like all other plagues, including the common cold, became non-fatal to remaining generations. I then go on to make a POSITIVE, i.e., OUR points instead of chasing THEIRS around endlessly.
I THINK about the point just made, and I point out that the common cold almost wiped out the Eskimos, and the hard=earned European resistance to disease was a major factor in the conquest of America. Note how this turns all their crap on its head. Instead of evil whites selling liquor to the Indians, the fatal problem of Indians was that they had not had the millennia of exposure to strong alcohol our ancestors did, that their4 ancestors did not EARN resistance to diseases that ours paid so much for.
But every time I do this kind of thing, my comrades, “That’s a CUTER point. Now let’s get back to JEWS.” Like insane military commanders like those who ran the French Army to defeat after defeat, they do the same things over and over and over. They say a new approach against a place where PC never expected an attack is “cute,” then they go back to charge the most heavily defended area in the enemy’s line.
No, my points are not “cute.” They take intellectual WORK, intellectual ELASTICITY.
In short, you have to THINK, not just act like a brick wall bouncing the same old crap back.