Secular historians agree what the greatest American theologian was Jonathan Edwards in the eighteenth century.

Here’s a sample of Edwards’ Puritan Wisdom:

The Eternity of Hell Torments
by Jonathan Edwards

Fourth, the sight of hell torments will exalt the happiness of the saints forever. It will not only make them more sensible of the greatness and freeness of the grace of God in their happiness, but it will really make their happiness the greater, as it will make them more sensible of their own happiness. It will give them a more lively relish of it: it will make them prize it more. When they see others, who were of the same nature and born under the same circumstances, plunged in such misery, and they so distinguished, O it will make them sensible how happy they are. A SENSE OF THE OPPOSITE MISERY, IN ALL CASES, GREATLY INCREASES THE RELISH OF ANY JOY OR PLEASURE.

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Edwards represented the Calvinist reaction to Catholicism.

The Medieval Church, by which I mean the Wordist institution that grew up using the name of Christ, had an interesting version of “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” They insisted that what a truly Holy Man would do to himself was to starve, go without sleep, wear hair shirts, and effectively castrate himself.

I said EFFECTIVELY because they condemned Origen when he PHYSICALLY castrated himself to remove temptation. Such a cheap out as not allowed. You had to SUFFER the lack of sex your whole life, or God didn’t get any fun out of it.

Protestants never disagreed with this. They felt this suffering was too undemocratic.

In fact, the only outrages Protestants talked about with monks was when monks DID have sex and fun.

Puritans insisted that EVERYONE should get in on the suffering.

How could a people with good, healthy Traditional values like that have ended up declaring that the highest morality consists of destroying their own race?

It had to be the Jews that did it.

PC is a religion, that means it places things off limits to debate behind an esoteric cloud of verbiage. In America that is its weakness leaving it open to a ceaseless barrage of never ending ridicule of its high handedness. But respectables being robe worshipers counter with esoteric nonsense themselves, they lose.

It really is that easy to defeat PC and liberalism there is nothing there but smoke and mirrors, even Dorothy had enough and wanted to ask questions of the witch directly. Dorothy was Mantra thinking before Bob was being Bob its right in front of us.

Enough of my high handedness I have to go back to destroying a Jew’s arguments against Iran. I’m asking him directly what his religion’s end times dictates are versus the crazies of Iran to see if we need to listen to either side in that spat.

— Simmons

One reason people pay any attention at all to the Media is that they still worship status, are suspicious of authority, and don’t know the difference between the two. Once they realize that truth is more valuable to them than a glitzy broadcast, the revolution is already done.

–Pain

One thing that always puzzled Europeans about Americans was that we were very religious and at the same time we were anti-clerical all the way to the gut.

We think of Catholics as the most obedient to religious authority. Yet even American Catholics naturally react this way,

American Catholics are the mainstay of that church throughout the world. A priest once told me that American Catholics benefited from the fact that this is a very deeply religious country.

Unlike other countries, where most people are Catholic simply by default, Catholics here have an attendance record and pay for their churches on a scale that, while we bitch about it, leaves the rest of the world in awe.

Here there are a lot of bitches about the priest shortage. But other countries today produce almost no priests at all.

Practicing American Catholics are known to routinely ignore the Pope’s more extreme pronouncements on birth control and the like.

But they don’t do this for the European reason, Europeans simply don’t take their faith seriously and that is the reason they ignore what the Pope says.

Practicing American Catholics ignore the Curia when it writes up a fashionable statement that capital punishment is evil. This is not an irreligious attitude. They simply don’t think such social dictates are necessary to the Catholic RELIGION.

Ignoring the preacher when he doesn’t make sense is traditional here. We are RELIGIOUS, not SLAVISH.

I think that, in order to follow Pain’s advice, we need to get that back same natural American attitude toward the priest of our PRESNT established religion.

It is important to remember that that attitude is deep in our national consciousness.
I see it on the Internet all the time. That is why constant reference to “repeating what Mommy Professor says” is such a deadly effective tactic in online debate.

Look at the responses. Europeans and South American are always looking for a religious or Intellectual or Titled Authority to adhere to. This Mommy Professor stuff makes this habitual dependence so clear that it even bothers THEM.

But the “Mommy Professor” truth makes AMERICANS on the Net go ballistic.

One of the two people Jesus specifically condemned to Hell was the Jewish High Priest who read and knew the Old Testament backward and forward, as modern preachers recommend as the Path to Heaven. Jesus made it clear that that high priest preached and followed The Law perfectly. He stood at the front of the Temple and proudly depended on his adherence and his reading.

Unseen in the back of the Temple was a sinner and back-slider who meekly admitted his failures, present and future, and begged to be forgiven for them. HE, said Jesus, was saved.

This parable may have meant nothing. Jesus may have just been gassing off.

I doubt it.

It is downright funny that the Bible should say “Wise Men from the East” as a code-word for priests of the Zoroastrian faith.

Today scholars say the same thing, “Ex Oriente Lux”, “Light Comes from the East”

But today they mean that all knowledge and wisdom comes from Israel and Egypt and Mesopotamians on both sides of Israel.

When scholars said “Ex Oriente Lux”, “Light Comes from the East” today they mean that all knowledge and wisdom comes from Israel and Egypt and Mesopotamians on both sides of Israel.

But in Matthew, Israel was the Western Place the Wise Men rom the East came TO.

Today a “Christian theologian” likes to sound profound by denouncing everything he disapproves of in early Christian days as “Gnostic.” It sounds impressive and is nice and vague, like all phrases used by intellectual snobs. .

The actual Gnostics were snobs, too. They said that salvation was not for the common people — you know, the ones Jesus went out and preached to. Salvation was for Intellectuals who Truly Understood the Secrets in the Book.

In early Christian times those Secrets had an Iranian flavor. They were from the Orient of THAT day.

Gnostics separated the God of This World from the True God. In the newly-found Gospel of Judas, Jesus LAUGHS at the Disciples who are sacrificing to Jehovah and explains to Judas that they are worshipping The God of THIS World. If you know anything about Zoroastrianism, which modern theologians don’t, you will immediately recognize the Zoroastrian separation of Ahura Mazda, the Good God of the Next World, from Ahriman, the Zoroastrian Satan from whom we get our Satan, who was the creator and God of THIS world.

The Gospel of Judas was excluded from the canon because it was a Gnostic Gospel BACK WHEN PEOPLE KNEW WHAT “GNOSTIC MEANT.

Theologians and Renaissance “intellectuals” are and were still just snobs.

They just had a different “Orient” in mind.

Yet – and this is part and parcel of the power of widespread color television – see Strom and Humphrey in the context of their times, and see why neither would last for five minutes today.

Thurmond dealt with the First Great Depression by working, and working more, in ever more valuable jobs and professions; he dealt with WWII by enlisting.

Humphrey’s family all but lost their family business, a pharmacy in South Dakota, during the end of the Roaring Twenties. They moved, and stayed in the drugstore business, seeing the First Great Depression as it played out on the Great Plains. Humphrey always want to teach college, and didn’t qualify for WWII for medical reasons. He taught college in DC during the war.

Thurmonds’ life story is quite impressive; Humphrey, that of a man who knows One Big Thing, and ran the table with it.

Both spoke for the tremendous sectional differences that were in place in America, even in 1948 – this, before widespread television.

“Professional journalists” – another archaic “profession” in the day of the blogosphere – are now providing entertaining commentary on the entertainment, as people see the major trends as being pretty much locked in place, and changes only occur on the margin. REAL political changes, take place because a Federal judge says so; the politicians then hide behind his dress.

Ever wonder why the transformational political decisions from the Federal judiciary come, at least as seen by the public, from the men, particularly older, White men?

The Indoctrination of the Self-Proclaimed Greatest Generation seems to have worked; they respond damn near automatically, like beaten dog

— AFKAN

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— BOB’S NOTE:

“this is part and parcel of the power of widespread color television ”

NEVER FORGET that when you discuss the power the old media had, you are also saying what power the NEW media can have.

Back in the 60s I noted a change in the nature of politicians. No one else understood what I was talking about, as usual.

I put it this way: If a Strom Thurmond or even a Hubert Humphrey were lost for two weeks on a trip and gave a press conference, they would hold a press conference at which they would speak off the top of their heads.

If a New Type politician was lost for two weeks, a Lott or a Dukakis, eh would hole the press conference until he had read over the newspapers and seen the latest polls.

On talk shows, media people always say, “The question is whether he will screw up during the campaign.”

These same media types then bitch about how both sides are so negative. They wonder why the public is not interested in a candidate’s program but only on the dirt.

They just SAID that the campaign IS the dirt. The campaign IS the screwups.

If you want to make a LIVING as a reporter, you send your editor what he wants to PRINT. When he hands out a paper droning on abut some policy initiative, you are thinking about how to use the question time to get him to screw up, to say something Jesse Jackson or NOW can declare is Evil.

“Professional” has only one meaning: You get PAID.

For a “professional journalist” a campaign is the screwups, not policy.

The changeover from the Ole Stroms to the new Lotts came largely because of the simple fact that campaigns meant less and less each time. People elected Strom or Humphrey because they MATTERED, and when Ole Strom or the Ecstatic Frog said something stupid it was just entertaining.

Strom was fighting integration and Humphrey was putting civil rights platforms into the Democratic Platform. Harry Byrd was fighting every expenditure and liberals were pushing whole new areas of taxation. Nobody was going to give up those critical matters over a silly remark.

Today in terms of real policy the only difference between Obama and Clinton is, IN FACT, the color of the skin. Every dime that can REALLY be spent is being spent, every tax that can in real politics be taxed is BEING taxed.

“Civil rights” and every other critical non-fiscal issue is decided it the courts, not in the White House or in Congress. All that is LEFT to vote on is looks. All that is LEFT to report on is verbal screwups.

For being such a “slothful” person Bob Whitaker certainly doesn’t suffer logical inconsistency. That’s because he fully comprehends that one of life’s greatest errors is conceit, for it is the hardest error that anyone has charging himself with.

Understanding this is how you get to know politics. And when BW says, “What creates the future goes unnoticed”, he is simply stating what the conceited don’t see: “Death walks on cat’s feet”.

That’s why you need to be young to get conned into fighting a war. It is invariably too late to discover how you have been betrayed.

There is a reason veterans come back bitter.

But rest assured no “anti-war” type could ever really understand this. They are too busy serving Political Correctness for that.

Also there is another contradiction: A revolution depends upon repenting conceit and fully comprehending how it leads to error. That’s how you get a “leg up” on the opposition.

But don’t worry about the secret getting out. Rest assured, it won’t.

“Death walks on cat’s feet.”

BRILLIANT insight!

My caps:

“A revolution depends upon REPENTING conceit and FULLY COMPREHENDING how it leads to error.”

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“But don’t worry about the secret getting out. Rest assured, it won’t.”

The secret WILL get out out with our new modes of communication. That is why anti-whites spend such titanic resources and concentrate monomaniacally on suppressing even tiny groups of tattle-tales like us.

Shari won’t settle for something until she UNDERSTANDS it and she is not afraid to ask questions. Her short comments are a major force in keeping our Comments humming.

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