Archive for December, 2008
FYI: I am now drinking stout I brewed in 1998 for future New Years.
For connoisseurs, it is smooth beyond belief but there is ALWAYS the new-malt aftertaste.
Where the HELL is Lord Nelson?
I went to visit James Edwards in Memphis and was on Political Cesspool. I did at least one phone interview with him, which he said got more audience response than Bay Buchanan. We also got smashed in Charleston together, which he has talked about on the show.
I wrote a piece here on his beautiful wife.
The interviews are, I think, online.
Tim? pointed out that a Wiki on me could spotlight the Mantra.
My hesitation is due to the fact that, as Pain pointed out, I really did do a LOT of things. If I understand it correctly, Wiki allows anybody from anytime in my life to add stuff. In some parts of Africa and Latin America I could be locked up.
I cleared my files and can say that, under FOI, I NEVER DID NOTHING. But that’s a thin cover.
There are ALSO many embarrassments in my life I would rather not have aired, in DC, in my politics, and around the world.
And you know how fair our enemies are.
Looking at this from my point of view might give you a perspective on history:
Yes, Virginia, there really was a Cold War. It was not like WWII where everybody on the winning side [with the Communists] was a hero. In fact, by the nature of the Cold War, precisely the opposite is the case. Their entire strength was based on what we now know was a set of lies.
The “highly successful” Communist economic system was an awful, hellish joke. Soviet “achievements” in science were all stolen. Italian and French academia and film industries were OPENLY Communist; while Americans firmly believed that any talk of Communists in either place elsewhere was just McCarthyism.
Half of Europe had an active Communist movement, and anyone there could take a short drive to see how anyone in the OTHER half of Europe would be murdered in cold blood if they tried to escape their Communist masters.
To you, this is just outrageous. Now look at it from MY point of view. Any action against third-world Communists is now officially terrorism against Liberation Movements.
The Village Voice tried desperately to get me to say I killed somebody in Latin America or Africa.
Even Henry Kissinger was nervous about traveling in some parts of EUROPE.
Yes, Virginia, there really was a Cold War. And if you were IN it, if you are guilty of helping to WIN it, you are on a very unforgiving list.
Then there’s the little matter of spending your life fighting the anti-white tide.
Maybe I’m getting old, tired, and chicken.
Tim must not have any old relatives, because he asked me to talk about me.
And I just took a pain pill!
Typing is now fun and I do not have that obsession with making sense that bothers me at other times.
What could you say about me in a Wiki?
First of all, as Tim points out, NOBODY wants to talk about me. Long before they switched sides, Tom Fleming, Clyde Wilson and others ceased contact with me. Considering the decades we had worked together this was hardly a coincidence.
They stuck with me all that time because we were on the same side. They knew what I had done, but only pros did. I was astonished to hear that my 1982 book was being used as a textbook in her son’s school. I’ve seen it cited in grad texts and my first book in the book Beyondism.
There must be a lot more because I found these by accident.
The point is these were professional books. Knowledge of me was not on Donahue.
I was astonished to see myself noticed in each of these cases.
I have a tendency to be on the long-term winning side. But the old saying is that “Victory has many fathers, defeat is an orphan.” So when after two decades of marching and writing I finally was a major force in getting Republicans to unite “Wallace Democrats” with conservatives to elect Reagan, everybody took credit.
Here is a rule most people here know. There are people who do the work and people who know how to get the credit. After the Reagan victory in 1980 it turned out that every Republican leader had been all for this coalition from the word go.
So what would a Wiki say about me? “He wrote the groundbreaking book,” as William Rusher said, “that made the coalition undeniable?”
You would have to read Jeffrey Hart’s review of my first published book in National Review, “Read This One!” and the COVER ARTICLE attack on me to see there was any debate.
After 1980 everybody with influence had said he had always been all for it. These were the powers in the Republican Party.
Anyone who disagreed with them would make an enemy he couldn’t afford.
So are you going to say in Wiki that Bob had pivotal role in forming this coalition?
No way! EVERYBODY had a pivotal role in it.
Because it WORKED.
As Jeffrey Hart pointed, my book sounded genuine because I had BEEN with the grassroots populists on truckers’ strike, the farmers’ strike, anti-busing marches, wildcat coal mine strikes.
But I also had first-hand experience with the Infallible Geniuses of the Communist Conspiracy. Nobody in the grassroots would let THEIR “activists” in, but my tiny Populist Forum was overwhelmed with requests to speak for REAL working peoples’ grassroots protests. So the Communist World said we did it by our heavy conservative funding.
There were three of us, and we didn’t even have a bank account. And regular conservatives would rather fund the CPUSA than us.
National Review, in “To the Nashville Station,” implied we WERE Communists.
What the CPUSA, those Infallible Geniuses, did NOT see was that we were forming the coalition that destroyed their indestructible Soviet Empire.
OK. You are going to do Wiki on Whitaker, explaining just this one aspect of his life: how he was pivotal to a coalition everybody claims credit for.
Lots of luck. And that’s just one chapter.
I had the same sort of role in saving the Space Telescope and stopping racial quotas imposed by IRS in private. They were lost causes when I got in on them and at the finish everybody had been for them from the word go.
So what would you say about me in Wiki?
My hope is that someday history will say, “White people finally realized that this ‘anti-racist’ program was actually genocide aimed against THEM.” Students will read this and say, “Of course they did!”
It’s obvious once it’s done.
I am a genius. I put my finger on what is, in hindsight, obvious.
Try explaining THAT in 500 words or less in Wiki.
Screw it, Tim. You and I have a war to win, and you need to use me while I’m here.
I don’t need a Wiki. I need a WIN.
I have a Christmas question for you. How is it that you have no Wiki entry? The Political Cesspool has one. David Duke and Don Black both have Wikis. Many other members of the struggle have Wikis for better or worse. Stormfront itself has a Wiki entry. But Bob Whitaker exists only as a Photographer to Wiki?!?!!?
You are too important to not have a Wiki. Or maybe that is why you don’t have a Wiki? You scare the powers that be too much….. LOL, They are scared to give you exposure!
How can someone as famous as you in Washington circles NOT have a Wiki!! Your fame must be the WHY to why don’t have a Wiki.
I noticed the SPLC launches tirades against little fish like VDare. But not a peep toward the big White shark. I cannot find an entry for Bob Whitaker on the ADL site or the SPLC website!!! Maybe I am blind.
I feel fortunate. I have definitely been in the right place reading the right blog for the past couple years. I found the only racist the powers that be are actually terrified of.
“Why do people SAY things?” It is easy to forget that an interviewer is in a highly competitive business, and most publications and most shows don’t survive a year. They can get mileage out of Dr. Duke or Jared Taylor, but my message is too tight for them to even to discuss.
Now the single issue of white survival, with all its ramifications, is not what interviewers want, but I don’t make my living on this stuff any more, and it is all I want to talk about.
But the bare survival of our race is not an issue that can be ignored permanently. Dr. Duke has a lot of issues about Jews to interest them. Jared Taylor aims to get back to an earlier white America. These are things present audiences and present interviewers are used to.
David and Jared are two men. I am training a small GROUP that can be called upon for interviews all from the disciplined point of view that would destroy the whole genocidal movement. AFKAN has his nephews. You are talking to people, disciplining people.
No one wants to talk to me because, as you say, they have no idea how to deal with me. Fox was the only place where I did a major interview and was not invited back. The second interview was not aired due to pressure.
They let me read out the Mantra on the last one.
William Buckley published a latter I sent him in his Notes and Asides a couple of years back. He didn’t know it was ME, as his reply in the column made clear.
In short, as you say, I am a pro. Most pros get published BECAUSE of their names. I sneak in sometimes because I’m good.
My job now is to train some more pros.
As to a Wiki, it is easy to explain what Dr. Duke and Jared Taylor do. It is easy to explain what they DID.
My role is, and WAS, just a little more complicated.
How do you cook reindeer meat?
To be honest, I don’t even remember what I posted, aside from the fact that it is heretical to see the obvious regarding the foot race.
I made a comment earlier, a tongue in cheek one about having a child born in Kenya so they could become a good long distance runner.
Most people point out it doesn’t work that way and then they STOP.
Political Correctness said that the only difference between men and women, apart from hormones, was the way they were raised. Men behave like men and women behave like women, not because of genetic predisposition but because of environment and stereotyping during early childhood years.
I remember when that was party line and everyone said that. What people say now is largely different.
You are the only person I have heard from who REMEMBERS that orthodoxy that boys are only different from girls because they don’t play with dolls.
Now here we have the sort of thing that jumps out at me but no one else even notices. Think about how hard this makes things. I distinctly remember giant fads like this.
If people remembered the endless list of PC absurdities like this, PC would long since have been discredited. Instead each new PC declaration is treated as Holy Writ.
But how do you REMIND people of this string of insanities? Remember, we are not talking about something SOMEONE said. That would only require a quote.
We are talking about a hundred successive things EVERYONE BELIEVED. That would require a hundred BOOKS.
Respectable conservatism is more critical to this Memory Hole than outdated leftism. RCs treat EACH new PC absurdity as a unique and serious one, NEVER as one more nail in the coffin of PC.
There may be an indication of how our Mantra developed in my piece below on the six-man race. When everyone is saying the color of the skin doesn’t matter, I begin to wonder why. I trust my instinct for truth. If “skin color CANNOT matter I immediately start looking for the reason why it not only MATTERS, but why skin color is BASIC.”
So I look for an obvious example of where skin color is everything and everybody accepts it. The first rule here is that whatever Political Correctness says is pure unadulterated crap.
So the contradiction is OBVIOUS. It is obvious that any serious Olympic race has a purely Negroid Swede, a pure Negroid Frenchman, a pure Negroid Nigerian, and so forth.
Immigration is precisely the same. All massive immigration is from countries made up of people with brown skin to countries made up of people with white skins.
That is the reason people get PAID to say that this obvious proposition is nonsense, evil, and silly. If something is silly, you don’t have to pay people to say it.
I have not completed the Six Man Mantra yet, but it tells you how OUR original Mantra was developed. To push its integrationist program they talked about an objective “Mixing of THE races” the way today’s PC’s talk about THE color of THE skin.”
It took me YEARS to realize that the problem was not “THE.” It was aimed at ONE race.
I put the Six- Man Race in Stormfront and got a dose of deja vu. Prometheus said that everybody knows that.
Which is what I got with the Mantra for years. Everybody KNEW that mixing THE races meant mixing only OUR race. The next instant they forgot it.
No, Prometheus, they don’t know it. I hope you were three sheets to the wind when you made that dumbass remark.
Clyde Wilson just joined Tom Fleming in saying skin color is not worth fighting about.
It’s all Culture. It’s all Complex.
Okeedoke. Let’s agree that no immigration will flow from “countries that HAPPEN TO HAVE brown skins” to countries that “happen to have whiter skins.”
Clyde and Tom and their owners would say, “You have GOT to be joking!”
Do you now understand that Mantras take work to develop and work to push?
I just finished Buchanan’s “Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War.”
The mental and moral failings of 20th century leaders resulted in our present plight.
But compared to the incompetence and empty phoniness of those who are “advertised” as leaders, even THEY look substantial. The repressed REAL is coming out. I think it will happen fast
I haven’t been here for a few days and the first thing I saw was our BUGS bee with his Santa hat.
Actually our bee looks a hell of a lot more like a “BAH, HUMBUG!” type. Like our bee, we are a hard-bitten lot, but we are willing to get on the good side for a good REASON.
That Santa hat reminded me of how much I appreciate initiative. I appreciate Lord Nelson and Prometheus when they trap some poor anti-white bastard with the Mantra and won’t let go.
I am lost in admiration of my techs who do EVERYTHING.
I know that my comment writers who answer my critiques rationally are UNIQUE.
The longer you have been in this movement the more you understand that last point. For over fifty years I have hit the enemy without pulling punches, but the second I started talking to people on our side, I had to walk on eggs.
You know what I mean. On Stormfront I attack the other side viciously, but when I make the slightest criticism of SFers’ opinions, or when they THINK I am doing that, they go ballistic. One minute I’m their comrade, the next minute I’m a Jew in disguise.
OVER FIFTY YEARS OF THAT.
So, for the sake of unity I walked on eggs. Fifty years of walking on eggs makes you WEARY.
Or as we say down South, “Tarred all over.”
I think only I really truly, fully appreciate BUGS in this respect. My job here is to tell you lessons like this that one learns from being in the fight for a long time and this is one of them.
Think about it. This is the only place on our side that I have EVER been where nobody suddenly says, “You said THAT to insult me.” Or”So, you are really on the enemy’s side!
Just lately, Dave and Pain were saying unkind things about each other. You all know that this is where the Moderator is supposed to step in on Stormfront.
Pain says Dave is full of the Stuff That Makes the Little Flowers Grow. Dave says he has a very low opinion of Pain. In each case the BUGS Commenter was saying what he thought was true.
Pain even asked Dave if he was a nigger.
My techs could have cut that out. They didn’t. By BUGS rules, Dave doesn’t feel like he needs protecting. By OUR rules, Dave would have taken a lot more offense at the idea he needed shielding than at anything Pain could say.
And Pain would hate coddling more than any insult.
We are in a war for our racial survival. Isn’t it time we put all the personal nonsense in perspective?
I did not make that decision NOT to Moderate Pain and Dave. The techs who do EVERYTHING did that. The powers Bob has installed at BUGS ALL understand these rules.
It is hard for you to remember what a contrast this is to the exchanges we are used to elsewhere in our movement. Anywhere else one of the two would have whined about The Moderator not protecting him from this Evil Lie and threatened to pull out.
Pain and Dave have their outspoken differences, but each of them would be SICKENED by the very thought that he need protection.
What I want you to remember is that this is ONLY place where this rule is taken for granted.
Pain thinks Dave is full of it. Dave will survive he blow. Dave thinks Pain is a nobody. Pain will make it though this attack without needing to apply for disability.
In fact, in the BUGS world, both would take it as an insult if I considered it my DUTY to protect one of them.
Let me repeat that:
“In fact, in the BUGS world, both would take it as an insult if I considered it my DUTY to protect one of them”:
Then take a look at Stormfront and try to realize what a RELIEF this is to me.
Before SF it was WORSE.
This is a part of the Mantra message. The question is not whether Dave will worry enough about Pain’s ego or vice-versa. The point is that they each say what they think is TRUE.
This is not a normal reaction. Normals get insulted and flee. That is the normal reaction.
But if I called YOU Normal, the BUGS Bee would become a Lynching Bee.
I never thought I would EVER find a place like this where everybody understood that we are not hunting heretics, we are not seeking ego boosts.
ALL we want is truth, with a small t.
You don’t just know that, you PRACTICE it.
For that, I thank you.
After Christmas we’ll be back to “Humbug, you low-life son of a bitch!”!
“The importance of the REAL is that it simplifies and gives a clear sight, not complicates and complicates.”
I have been trying to say that for years.
From the comments I got on studying real church history, I was reminded that most people either have no interest at all, and if they do have an interest they have a complete explanation of the whole thing.
I am trying to learn some kind of Mantra Lesson from this.
“OF COURSE in a place like BUGS anybody who is fascinated by a subject has a strong opinion on it.”
But Mantra Thinking sees the obvious as a BEGINNING. Mantra thinking is seeing the obvious and then ANALYZING the obvious.
I put the article on “The Six-Man Race” below on Stormfront. Prometheus said that any sentient human being would see that.
1) That any Olympic race that is not all-black is a farce;
2) That any IQ competition that is not all-Oriental is a joke;
3) That everybody wants the unique advantages Aryans bestow.
AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!
“It is said that there is this RACE problem. They say this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.”
“The Netherlands and Belgium are as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.”
“Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.”
“What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?”
“How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?”
“And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?”
“But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
“Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”
I get the impression that everybody now sees that the message of the last election was,”Nobody is going nowhere, so let’s elect a black guy.”
In the 2008 election, the choice was between an old white Republican and a young black Democrat. Nobody even HINTS that it will make a difference.
Millions will be out there to celebrate the election of the first BLACK president.
That’s IT. With a new Depression threatening, nobody has any expectation of anything really changing. The whole thing looked like exhaustion. For a major candidate to run on the meaningless word “Change” is a symptom of complete failure.
When the entire electorate can only agree on Change, the whole two-headed system has run out of steam.
This is not 1932 or 1980 or even 1960. Everybody now agrees that the medium is the message: the new president is black, and that’s IT.
When we had a crises of this size in 1932 and 1980, the change was specific, a straight switch from right to left and vice-versa. Roosevelt and Reagan went in on announced swings from one side to the other.
Now both sides are discredited completely.
Something started in 2008, and has little to do with a black face.
Christ did not come to tell people that the Christ was COMING. One thing official history carefully avoids is that it was not only Jews who expected a Messiah. And official history desperately avoids the fact that “Jews” were not even primarily in Palestine.
Ten percent of the Roman population consisted of Hellenic Jews who did not know a word of Hebrew. They visited Israel the way their descendants, today’s Christians, visit Israel. History will someday say that all the Christians today were in Israel.
The Jews got their concept of a Messiah where they got everything else: from Zoroastrianism. In the West before Christianity Heracles gave his life for men.
But the point here is that Jesus did NOT come to earth to announce ***A*** Messiah, and John the Baptist did not say that there would be ***A*** Messiah. People assumed that.
Jesus’ message was that HE WAS the Messiah.
Please note that not a word of what I just said is theology. It is HISTORY. An atheist needs to know it more than a religious person does, because a religious person can adjust reality to his beliefs but an atheist can’t.
The real historical world Christianity took over is important to US.
Christian history is adhered to slavishly by atheistic professors. The first lesson of REAL Church history is WHY this is so. Official Christian history wants the Faith to be absolutely unique. All the basis of the Faith is supposed to be a straight line through Israel, and ONLY Israel.
If you think about it, atheist professors have EXACTLY that same goal. Real Christian history contains a struggle that is very relevant to ours today. Like us, the Church grew up, not in a vacuum, but in struggle with OTHER very similar. belief systems. Real Christianity was almost taken over, and WAS permanently diseased by, the Intellectuals who looked to the East, who shouted only those who lived in the Intellectual Truths of their day could attain Salvation.
Dave’s attitude that he is smarter than anyone else is one we all must at least SHARE in.
After all, the basic premise of BUGS is that the rest of the world has gone NUTS. The entire history of science is a fight against established Authority and what WORKS. Intellectual modesty has ALWAYS been on the side of evil.
If you THINK about that, it puts Ole Bob in a COMICAL position. I have a lot to teach, but I can’t GRADE you. That is what the forgotten art of SEMINAR is about.
“Education” begins with “fitting in,” learning how to respond and to give answers Mommy Teacher considers acceptable. We begin by learning to read and write the “right” way. We repeat multiplication tables. We learn socialization.
This is absolutely essential for small child. We have to teach him how to walk the way we do, because we know it WORKS. We have to teach him to deal with arithmetic as it really is. He does some arithmetic and stops believing in Santa Claus.
This is fine for small children, but it never STOPS. Universities have what they call “seminars,” but these are graded in exactly the same way the multiplication tables were, with a test.
No one GROWS UP in our educational system. This goes back to one of our themes: It is so obvious that nobody notices it. Our entire Western science is based on the fact that people learned the basics and then OUTGREW the basics at a certain level. That is the history of science.
But the area we are dealing in allows no one to grow up. In “social science” the student is supposed to begin AND END within the parameters of learn and test. We are lead to believe that any deviation from “educated thinking” leads back to some version of the Easter Bunny.
That is why blacks tell us that any deviation from the Politically Correct attitude on race means, “You Ignunt!!”
This is embarrassing to our “intellectuals” because it is EXACTLY what THEY are saying: You either agree or you are ignorant.
I teach some basics I know. I do NOT expect you to STOP with my basics. I do not expect you to spend time discussing my discussion of your discussion.
We outgrew that crap with Occam’s Law.
Well, BUGS did. Modern academia acts like Occam was never born.
I want you to practice what I preach and tell me what works. In a seminar, the rest is your business.
What puzzles everybody is EXACTLY what Dave and Pain are fighting about. I think it goes back to when Dave decided to get Wise:
“Acquiring real power in our time is about acquiring the capability to end run the government’s regulatory and tax apparatus in a business sense.”
That is an entirely different world view from the Mantra. The Mantra is a tactic we have tried and it WORKS.
Let’s go back to what I have knocked myself our saying, and when I say it everybody wants to get onto something more general and interesting.
Dave, we do not KNOW whether we want to “acquire power.” If we hammer the Mantra in, it puts everybody in an untenable position. The present acceptance of genocide by whites is the ONLY Final Solution to the Race Problem there is.
We all know that new ideas go through the stages of being heresy, being discouraged and becoming accepted truth. We all of us who have USED the Mantra can see that it is the heresy we need. With the Mantra and with nothing else, we are on way. We have the undeniable heresy we need.
But the point of the Mantra is that it WORKS. It is NOT theorization about controlling the system, which anybody can do. I am fascinated when Dave talks about SALES, because SELLING is what the Mantra is about. But you know damned well, Dave, that the minute you go from sales to how you are going to split the commission, your sales team will be in an uproar.
I, for one, have no idea how this society will try to deal with it when the genocide angle becomes clear. Our advantage is we know how impossible their dilemma will be.
Yes, the most reasonable thing would be to offer us the right to all-white countries.
They can’t offer us this for EXACTLY the same reason that we take it for granted that you cannot have a serious Olympic foot race unless the person representing Sweden is black. One thing no one doubts is that if you have an all-white anything, everyone will eventually demand to be there. That reality killed the Soviet Empire.
As with the Soviet Empire, everybody knows it and no one mentions it.
So all the reasonable discussion of White Nationalism is nonsense. In BUGS, our INCALCULABLE advantage is NOT that we know things like, “Acquiring real power in our time is about acquiring the capability to end run the government’s regulatory and tax apparatus in a business sense.”
That sounds as wise and is as irrelevant as White Nationalism.
We are going to have to bargain, but we have no idea how that bargaining will LOOK. In fact I have gone on at length about how you KNOW the other side wants to bargain. I have talked at length about the subtle signs of filter-down, but everyone wants to talk about some Jewish scandal.
Like Mussolini, we can bullshit on and on and miss the March on Rome.
What we need is what Bismark called Fingerspitzgefuehl, “Finger Tip Feeling.” I try to teach that, but the technique of stopping the spread of Finger Tip Feeling was discussed in Animal Farm. When people asked thought-out questions, Napoleon (Stalin) had the sheep bleet, “Four legs good. Two legs BAAAD!”
There are things I want to explain, but I daren’t because someone will start obsessing.
Fighting over what to do with the world after we conquer it is at least as good as, “Four legs good, two legs BAAD.”