Archive for January, 2009
When commenters talk about VDare, what interests me is that you KNOW what it is all about. To me, what is important is that YOU are IN THERE.
Shari says I will say her take on Christianity and whites is off the subject.
It is ON the subject because it is a statement in favor of white survival in the areas in which SHE is WORKING.
There is simply no area in which the disappearance of the white race is anything but a disaster. THAT is our common message, no matter whether we are interested in economics, religion, science or anything else.
It is up to YOU to take this message and run with it in each area.
This is a good example by what I mean when I say I am a teacher, not a leader. A leader would dictate and control your message. I just teach you how to hone your own.
I have warned Shari about The Dark Side, turning Christianity into Wordism. If she avoids that, Bob Yoda’s job is done. I just want to make sure you are out there fighting.
I TEACH the Jedi, but they have to do their own knight errantry.
As usual, Shari puts it simply and to the point in a way that cannot cannot be improved upon:
“On vdare, I think that they know! Just keep repeating.”
Anti-whites are always spouting about how massive immigration and assimilation demanded of ALL white countries and ONLY white countries is just Freedom.
I am really ticked off at my comrades for NEVER telling the truth about this.
The same anti-white who spouts this libertarian nonsense knows very well that free speech does not apply to US, but I am STILL waiting for us to SAY so every time this crap appears.
They keep saying we can live in our own bunkers if we want to. Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth, it is forbidden for us to do so.
But no one points this out.
As O’Reilly said, “There should be no all-white ANYTHING in America.”
At least O’Reilly SAYS it. That’s more than my comrades on SF do.
For all their “diversity” talk, the fact is that all-white areas are forbidden because people will MOVE there. If we had freedom of choice integration would be doomed in the long term.
That is the justification for our entire set of laws, the ones O’Reilly is all for and states so clearly. Why do my comrades let the anti-whites get away with this “Freedom” crap?
A Stormfronter started what is now a LONG thread about how there are more and more SUBTLE trolls signing up on SF.
This was my observation:
1) Stormfront is being taken more and more seriously.
2) It is therefore inevitable that professional anti-anti-semites and the like will try to penetrate and influence us.
3) We need vigilant people like J.S. Bach to notice this and warn us about it.
4) As the racial issue becomes central and the fake opposition conservative crap is shoved into the background, our REAL opposition to political correctness comes to the front
5) This was bound to happen as the racial divide became more obvious
6) It is a very very GOOD sign.
I am helping to take care of a person in the first stages of Alzheimer’s. The care-taker I am helping out is very grateful, because she is being driven crazy by constantly reminding him of everything.
I have no problem at all with it, and I am NOT joking when I tell you the reason for this.
I have been doing this all my life. On Stormfront anti-whites bring up the same thing over and over and over and over. They bring up “mixing THE races” and I have had to explain to them literally HUNDREDS of times that all this assimilation (intermarriage) and mass immigration are demanded ONLY in white countries and in ALL white countries. It is straight genocide.
But it is not only the anti-whites who have Alzheimer’s. Anti-whites give long arguments about how race mixing is a personal choice. I just point out that all crime is a matter of personal choice. It works, but it will be a long cold day in The Pit before other SFers pick it up.
And then there is “anti.” Anyone who gets out there and fights sees how effective that is in driving them on the defensive. Like the argument about “mixing THE races” they simply cannot deal with it because it is simple, short, and TRUE. I drove them back with it. I got POINTS for it.
But NOBODY USED it until I finally others to do so.
Until I started caretaking this Alzheimer’s patient, I honestly did not realize how his symptoms were part of my life on Stormfront and BUGS.
Some nice person who sent me points for one of my arguments said it was “simple BUT effective.” In other words, were dealing with deeply intellectual opponents whose arguments can usually only be dealt with by long, complicated rejoinders.
I call this the Buckley Syndrome. Respectable conservatives kept the old, silly liberalism alive by treating it with respect. There is nothing complex about some idiot saying we should deal with CRIMINAL violence by taking guns away from HONEST people. I worked in a prison and I have yet to find a single career criminal who doesn’t laugh out loud at that crap.
William Buckley used French phrases and his phony Judge Whitey accent to be part of a Sophisticated Debate with morons. It is NOT an example we need follow.
Stormfront gets tied down in “news and Jews.” So I might wait a bit before putting the “Coach, not Leader,” there. It maybe a waste of time right now to try to get anything listened to during the Obama News Period.
To some extent my lack of brilliance is made up for by my lack of bullshit, so I admit that seeing a black face in the Oval Office depresses me, though by my own logic it shouldn’t. Logically a white man who has declared his enmity to his own race is a far worse creature.
My Stormfront signature still ends with “Anybody but McCain.” But it takes a while for my heart to catch up with my brain.
Certainly the United States which has established the religion of political correctness is like a US which has been occupied by any other alien. Loyalty to such a system is treason to our real country.
All that is logical, but it is still depressing. So Stormfront people have the right to a period to vent their anger.
This is for Stormfront, but I want to check it with you first.
Coach or Teacher, Not Leader
In my signature I say that MY AIM IS TO BE a coach. One person said I am not his coach because GOD is his coach. I would gladly step down for God. But what I said was that my AIM is to be coach.
Others aim to be leaders.
The name of my blog, “Bob’s Underground Graduate Seminar,” shows that I think of myself as an advanced teacher rather than as a “leader.”
We have some excellent leaders. In BUGS I am trying to train some more coach-professors. BUGS is steadily evolving. I used to do a blog where I set out my ideas, but I* kept demanding comments.
BUGS is a SEMINAR. I praise comments, I criticize comments. I have had at least a dozen articles entitled, “READ THE COMMENTS!” It is paying off.
A lot of our participants used Comments to go off on their own subjects. So I started a new segment called “General Comments,” maybe not the best title, but it is a place where Seminar Members can bring up subjects without trying to fit them in as comments on whatever I was talking about. We have now filled up General Comments I and are on General Comments II.
But a funny thing happened on the way to General Comments II.
I felt guilty about not having looked at GC I for a while. I thought my Seminar participants would be offended. But when I read it over, I discovered that they did not even MISS me. BUGSers wrote general comments, and other BUGSers commented on them.
For an Indispensable Leader, this would be a defeat. For me, it was an enormous victory.
The statements and comments in General Comments are what one would expect of real graduate students. Unfortunately there are no real graduate students in today’s universities. There are no REAL seminars in today’s universities.
Which is why my definition of graduate is a bit different from the one used by the education bureaucracy:
“Bob’s Underground Graduate Seminar is for people who have outgrown their college education, whether they have had one or not.”
As a former professor I make it very clear in my last book, “Why Johnny Can’t Think” what I think of what passes for education today.
My triumph in reading General Comments was not that seminar members just talked to each other. Thank God we have Stormfront for that. Their discussion, without my input, was DISCIPLINED.
They did not use General Comments to wander odd into whatever they wanted to write down somewhere. We have SF for that.
Like any real seminar we have a specific program to develop in BUGS. It is not easy to explain or one would not need a seminar format to deal with it. If you reused to someone giving a lecture course you need to be part of the seminar for a while to understand what our DISCIPLINE is.
As I say in today’s universities real seminars no longer exist. In today’s universities you just listen to what the professor says and regurgitate it in the exam, exactly as you did in the first grade. To today’s professor my feeling of triumph would be hard to explain.
To me, the whole point of Seminar is PARTICIPATION, not cramming for the final.
Cramming is for high school.
In a real seminar, a long-dead art, If a professor spends many hours in a seminar with future professors and he cannot tell who is getting it and who is not, he should go back to teaching high school where he belongs.
I feel justified in my claim to be coach, teacher, professor, whatever. After all my work, BUGS participants are able to bring up new topics and STICK TO THE SUBJECT.
Leaders are har to replace. But my goal is that, when I step down, due to my efforts, there will people ready to take my Chair in the numerous Seminars that will develop from BUGS.
I do two things all the time. I got them both on BUGS from you. They are supposedly the most effective tools in my arsenal.
One, I never say anti-racism and just leave it alone. I always say “anti-racism is a code word for anti-white”. I then stay on anti-white. It rarely goes further anymore, because I have slaughtered people with one of my shortened mantras so many times.
Another thing stolen from you is MY RACE. I never ever say “the white race”. Always my race, my race, my race. I have had white folks tell me after that they had never heard anyone talk about our race and personalize so much. I have had Asians say that they had never heard a white person say MY RACE. Very difficult to attack. Once in a while you will get a smart arsed anti-white SHWA ask me what my race is. I always say White Folks and then I call them dumb asses.
When you say ‘the white race’. You will get endless dumb questions about WHAT is the WHITE RACE etc. No one has ever asked me all these side issue questions by me saying MY RACE. When they do. I can immediately make fun of them and call them names.
Bob, has anyone ever asked you what color you are? No, not likely. My race is your best underrated and understated BUGS tool. I catch people all the time on BUGS saying ‘the white race’. I let it slide. But I shouldn’t because it is THAT effective. Make “My Race” a habit and watch people.
Nothing new was coming into General Comments so I ignored it for a while. Needless to say, that is when the comments came in.
backbaygrouch says we need a new one because the old one is now too long. So, techs, I suggest we start this one and link it up in place of the old one. Or however you decide to handle it.
Meanwhile I will look at the General Comments I that I overlooked.
This is a war of words. The use of WORDS is what matters.
I seem to be fighting a LONE battle against the use of the word “anti.” Anybody who works in OV sees how desperately they object when one says anti-WHITE, but I can’t get people to USE it.
In short, I am the same position with anti-WHITE as I am with the Mantra.
I am very glad to have Lord Nelson back.
I now have some real practitioners like him on the Mantra. It took YEARS to get them and I can’t spare one.
I find it hard to understand how people who claim to be serious simply cannot assimilate the importance of words that WORK.
“Anti-white” is more important and effective than five tomes on Jews.
Please get in there and correct our comrades on this and similar points.
And never, never, NEVER let them off the hook by saying “anti.”
About 1900 the British Admiralty refused to develop submarines with an ironic comment:
“The British Navy is not in the business of developing ships that sink.”
France got smashed by Germany in 1870, 1914 and 1940, each time in the exact same way. Today it is hard to believe how dumb the French were in each case. In each case the Germans invented a new way to move so fast they reached Paris before the French Army could.
In each case France was fighting the last war.
One of history’s cruelest jokes was what happened when the French built the Ultimate, Updated World War One Trench and called it the Maginot Line.
Dave explains the new technology of the fight brought on by the Internet. Tim sums it up brilliantly: “BUGS has no currency in the past.”
For decades I worked with the old idea chain. I could trace the Latest Thing from New England campuses to the Boston Globe to the New York Times to the Atlanta Journal. Then Europeans would pick up the Latest Thing and then the colonies, the English language press in Australia and South Africa, would pick it up.
It ran like a Mussolini train schedule, perfectly predictable and right on time. This was useful to me, because I knew what “new” ideas people would come up with out where I was ahead of time. But I did not realize until now how exactly like a train it was. It depended on enormous initial investment in an established track made up of iron rails.
As Dave points out, the old idea train was the ONLY means of transporting ideas. If you had toldwomonein1908 that autos and trucks and suchlike playthings would reduce the importance of railroads, you would be laughed at.
But at NBC and CBS. they are not laughing.
We can worry about their Maginot Line or we can concentrate on developing our Blitzkrieg.
Here is an important point and it has to do with the way the Internet is shaping life.
The Internet is turning an enormous amount of what used to be esoteric knowledge into a low cost commodity. The white race has bestowed upon the world an incredible legacy of intellectual property and real capital, a legacy freely available to all nonwhites. With the Internet, huge stores of knowhow are now easily available worldwide, courtesy of our race, much of it embedded in software.
This is of great benefit to the world economy. But it raises the value of the kinds of knowledge that can only be acquired through risk taking and doing, and other kinds of knowledge that cannot or will not be transmitted over the Internet.
Not only that, it makes more salient the kinds of knowledge that is only accessible through racial traits, particularly the kinds of knowledge that has it source in traits involving distinct motives and obsessions.
For example, I have never met a nonwhite who has any idea of the compulsive obsession white men tend to have with weapons. I think if they knew the truth they would be horrified. Nonwhites are simply clueless of the depth of our concern and obsession with weapons development. They have no idea HOW MUCH WE CARE and how thoroughly we are devoted to acquiring new and better weapons.
This shared consciousness among white men is non-accessible to nonwhites. And a very large domain of know-how and understanding surrounding this shared consciousness will not ever be published on the Internet.
This gives us some clues about where things are really headed in the racial struggle. There is a lot of baked-in-the cake exclusivity that cannot be penetrated.
I believe the racial bonds are there and in truth they are very compulsive. So the harder Political Correctness shoves, the greater the push back in separation. The “push back” is unseen and unnoticed. So much the better.
There cannot and there will never be “a common humanity”.
Great post. No White Nationalist on Stormfront has ever published anything concerning our tribes ACTUAL survival tendencies. I published a post under “White Survival” pointing to a one simple fact. Our survival has never been birth dependent. 80% of our survival is defense and that is why the USA and Russia have the largest weapons development on earth. Hardly anyone responded. They want fear and fantasy concerning “all hope is lost” type of nonsense.
“For example, I have never met a nonwhite who has any idea of the compulsive obsession white men tend to have with weapons. I think if they knew the truth they would be horrified. Nonwhites are simply clueless of the depth of our concern and obsession with weapons development. They have no idea HOW MUCH WE CARE and how thoroughly we are devoted to acquiring new and better weapons.
This shared consciousness among white men is non-accessible to nonwhites. And a very large domain of know how and understanding surrounding this shared consciousness will not ever be published on the Internet.
This gives us some clues about where things are really headed in the racial struggle. There is a lot of baked-in-the cake exclusivity that cannot be penetrated.”
That is why BUGS is the best. We are the only ones dealing in REALTY. And me and you can only imagine what Putin’s Russia and our Pentagon really have in terms of Weapons capabilities. We know how we think. Therefore we know how Aryans think. All the White Nationalists and even some smart Racists only deal in what is KNOWN. What is known is based on the PAST. BUGS has no currency in the past.
As whites, we don’t need a “mass movement” or any kind of that sort of regalia.
The important thing is to leave behind yesterday’s political methods. They are a legacy from circumstances that have disappeared from life. This latter is the most important point of all.
The “living in space” thing that sounded so inevitable in 1977 is no longer a big deal, like living in Virtual Reality. It seems out of date, but it’s not. It’s on hold.
Once again in order to understand what happens to “inevitables” you have to THINK ABOUT basic no one else ever analyzes. Anybody who remembers the clunkers computers were back then sees why the Virtual Reality craze went out. Computers were then and are now far too slow for it.
Likewise living in space. That was considered inevitable when the Moon Mission was all the rage. Manned space MISSIONS are gone. So that, like VR, is considered out of date.
But computers are forging ahead and it is becoming routine to launch one more satellite, SEMI-PRIVATELY.
You never know what opportunities will present themselves. The way we saved our race will be something we don’t even consider right now.
But, as Dave says, the point is not to obsess on white nationalism, Jews, or any other METHOD. Once we get the Mantra MENTALITY, we will be ready for the WAY to racial survival.
As Tim indicates, when we do, it will come as an awful shock to the non-whites we leave behind.
But Hitler could not have predicted the Depression and Marx did not foresee World War I. We are after the MENTALITY of white survival. The MEANS will come on the Tide of History.
Can you imagine the hysterics of the PC elite about the prospects of Earth Aryans going to an all white planet? That would make for a great sci-fi comedy flick.
This is why I was in a position to save the Hubble Telescope.
It was one of those dramas you hear about. The subcommittee had cut Hubble and the Jupiter Orbital Probe out of the 1977 NASA budget. The Appropriations subcommittee is usually the final word.
They knew there would a rebellion against this castration of the Space Program, so the Leadership sprung the vote immediately, on the Thursday when the break began. The pro-space congressmen were generally younger and more Western, without the Floor-fighting expertise that old hands like John and me had.
They were despairing, and I said, “Hell, all you need to mobilize is a one-day delay. I’ll GET you a one-day delay.” I walked into John’s office and said, “Do you know about the Jupiter Probe and the Space Telescope?”
John said, “No.” and I said, “Well, we need a one-day delay for it.”
John said, “Is it good for America?”
“I’ll get you the day.”
No more was said. That what he hired his senior staffers for.
Over the weekend the space lobby got in 400,000 telegrams demanding reversal before the vote took place on Monday. America’s top scientists were in the galleries when the House voted FOUR TO ONE to reverse the subcommittee. UNPRECEDENTED!
John got enormous praise from new supporters and was invited to speak before the AAAS. Edward Teller came in to congratulate him personally.
How did it happen that an old Middle America campaigner was in the middle of the space program all of a sudden?
His senior staffer was interested in living in space as a place for whites.
People write me about “using my influence.”
I don’t have any.
I was delighted when Lord Nelson and Prometheus started pushing the Mantra after I had spent YEARS knocking anti-WHITES down with it and getting rep points for doing so.
But nobody who gave me rep points USED it. It took YEARS and endless effort to finally get a few people who understood the Mantra and USED it.
So now when people on SF say “anti,” I am the ONLY one who slams at them with “anti-WHITE.”
I have no INFLUENCE. No one puts my BUGS pieces even into SF, much less any place else. The only times I am accused of having INFLUENCE is when someone wants me to use it or when someone wants to say that an example I gave is an Evil Influence, like the porno bit in the Maxim article below.
You all know the simple arithmetic we always hear: “If I tell four people and THEY tell four people and they tell four people…”
It doesn’t work. No matter how many people in BUGS discover the Mantra, on any other initiative I am entirely on my own.
Which pisses me off. I could USE some following.
But then I look at the other races.
Nothing is easier than getting ten million Chinese waving Mao’s Red Book. We got a couple of thousand pro-Confederate flaggers in a march. On the other side, a snap of the finger brought out so many blacks out in a counter march that they could hardly breathe in the open air around the State Capitol.
Whites piss me off, but I prefer you.