Archive for September, 2009
“Life After Man” hints that man disappears from the earth because of a catastrophe. I wrote an article about the end of the SST (Supersonic Transport) but I forgot to explain WHY I wrote it. This relates to the likelihood of man disappearing from the earth, not with a bang, but without any noise at all.
It also relates to primitive islanders who believe that dreams are just as real as waking life. Social anthropologists and psychologists for a while thought this was a Great Insight.
One major reason dreams are not the same as waking life is that you can dream of destroying the world and it won’t make any difference when you wake up. Cut to the nub, this means that dreams are real to YOU, but they are not real to me. In other words, the big difference between reality and dreams is actually a matter of COMMUNICATION.
Historically, reality has been moving faster, among other things. Since the beginning of flight daredevils and test planes would break a speed barrier, and in a decade or two that new speed would be routine.
Until the SST. The SST took passengers across the Atlantic at a maximum speed of 2.2 times the speed of sound, a good three times as fast as jet aircraft did routinely. But instead of becoming routine, as speed records has been before, transoceanic aircraft went back to the 500 mph speed they had had for decades and there is no sign anyone is looking for anything faster.
The reason for this goes back to the fact that reality is primarily a means of communication. The reason ocean liners were replaced by planes was because people needed to get across the ocean in less than a week or two. But there was not adequate need for human beings to get across in a few less hours.
If you need to communicate with somebody that fast, you use light speed communications.
All those cities that “Life After Man” showed collapsing exist simply because people NEEDED to be near each other. Note the past tense. A century ago the central city was the place of the future because the inevitable future of industrial society required people to live close together.
Actually one phase of Life After Man was here over a generation ago. Harlem, which was a very upper class area when the New York Metro was build often looks like what is depicted a century after Man disappeared in the documentary. The area around the University of Chicago turned into the same kind of ruin from being totally upper crust in the same period.
In fact the main reason we have any trace left of worrying about where anybody is because computer speeds are so low.
Let’s take a concrete example. It used to be that a detective wanted to be on the scene.” Now being “on the scene” means very little compared to getting photos and samples for the lab. Eye witnesses used to be everything. Now photos are essential and far more valuable.
In fact, the trouble with Big Foot is that we have eyewitnesses but no photos, and all the eye witnesses on earth are no substitute for one photo. Photos don’t take psychedelic drugs like shamans. Photos don’t get schizophrenic and have voices talking to them
Above all, photos have no imagination at all. They are pure communication, at least as compared to what we used to think of as pure communication. If someone takes the SST to Europe to talk to somebody, you can bet he will insist on recording what is said.
Spending a fortune to talk face to face is not much use if the results will not be believed unless they are recorded. It is easier to record light speed communications.
In the 1950’s the epitome of Modern Man, “The Man in the Grey Flannel Suit,” lived in Connecticut. Every morning He got up at the break of dawn, put on his coat and tie, drove some miles to the train station, took the train to Grand Central Station, then took the subway many miles to his place of work.
Every day he walked from his office to the subway, took the subway to the train station, and spent an hour or two going back to Connecticut, walked to his car and drove it back home. He got home in time to hit the sack.
Dawn to late night, every day. Very few people do that today, though I am sure many still do. When “The Man in the Grey Flannel Suit” was written, this was considered the Way of The Future.
When computer speeds get to a certain level, you will be able to see, smell and taste at long distance, with the sort of advantages a photo has over a memory. Where would “we” BE then?
I cannot predict where our physical bodies will be then. They probably won’t be in any tall buildings.
This is a continuing theme of this blog. “Progressivism” depends absolutely on a PREDICTABLE Future. And the LAST thing the future ever is is predictable.
Actually that is not strictly true. History shows that the future of a BROWN civilization is as predictable as the life span of an ant colony. Every time you look at the ruins of a civilization that went down and stayed down the people there have brown skins, black hair, and brown eyes, which is what we call Diversity. There are no such places in the white world.
If the progressives have the future they demand, it WILL be predictable.
Michael Moore demonstrates that Mommy Professor loves ugliness for its own sake.
I do not like looking at ugly people. Why is it that someone so horribly ugly is so popular with Mommy Professor’s products? A good looking person could say the same thing.
Yes, it is very popular for people to say that looks don’t matter. In fact, if you want to hear sincere expressions of that belief go to a high-end beauty parlor and listen to Mommy Professors’ upper income liberals talk to each other. As they sit there spending thousands of dollars on touch-ups and blonding they will recite The Party Line that Looks Don’t Matter.
Vanishingly few people in a high-end beauty parlor are buying contact lenses that make their eyes look brown. Even fewer are having anything darkened. But they sit there and tell each other that children don’t care if their blond mother makes them brown and kinky.
If they have feelings, maybe the kids have feelings too. Well, if they are RACIST feelings that will keep a black guy who likes blond from getting what he wants the kids have no right to those feelings. They are there to get blonded and to talk about how to help the black guy end blondness.
So any discussion of looks is “superficial.” Meanwhile looks are the first concern of damned near everybody, especially their own.
“Do unto others as you would have others do to unto you.”
I got some comments on “Me and the Irish” that made me want to make some points that people today are not exposed to. Pretty random, but interesting at least to me.
It is true that the “Scots-Irish” are not Irish, but Scot Protestants who lived in Ireland for generations and then moved to America. That does not mean, though, that they are not Celtic. Gaelic, aka, “Irish” us spoken in large parts of Scotland because of a combination of words you don’t hear much: Irish Imperialism.
Back in the first millennium, the Picts controlled a huge part of Scotland. They spoke a language just as Celtic as Gaelic, in the same way that Italian is just as Latin as Spanish, but Pictish was a different language, just as Italian is different from Spanish. The Irish conquered that area and today its Gaelic is the same as Irish Gaelic. By the time of Cromwell a lot of the Pictish blood was in the Scots who went to Ireland as enemies.
Another thing that is forgotten today is that in New England the inferiority of Southern blood was explained by the heavy admixture of Celtic in it. You can still see some of that in Mencken.
The Buckleys always correct people and insist they are “ANGLO-Irish.” In the Southern Partisan in the 1980’s, Bill Buckley’s brother wrote a vicious column about Irish blood that offended my friend Doctor Shanty deeply.
Most people wouldn’t understand these complications today. The Scots Irish were not Irish, but they were heavily Celtic. Those Scots Irish were sent in to crush the wild Irish and then they went to America. The poor Indians didn’t stand a dog’s chance against the product of all that.
Both Calhoun and Jackson were prototypical Scots-Irishmen. In fact, they looked so much alike that in Europe their portraits would get mixed up. If I were an Indian, I wouldn’t want to run into either one of them in a dark forest.
“…but only if he’s a fool to start with.”
The fact that people are dumbed down so much today becomes serious when you make your LIVING explaining things to people. I often had to talk to some important constituent — on thing “senior” congressional staff is for — and it really got scary.
The reason it is scary is that senior staff if not asked to talk someone unless it is a person who is especially important to the congressman. He is therefore somebody your boss talks with often. There are “case workers” for more routine work.
Actually when it comes to a pro doing work for a constituent, I would take a case worker over a senior staffer any time The jobs are totally different. But if an important person can‘t talk to the boss, he has to be handed over to a senior staffer.
If you want to be important, you go to the Ambassador. If you’re serious about needing a visa, you go the staff.
The problem is that when your boss is away in China, for example, as happened to me, you have a bunch of Very Important Strangers who know you are subbing for the congressman.
So you are dealing with people your congressman has known closely for years. If you were a case worker you would have the person’s letter and know what he wants. Senior staff has neither.
What I want to emphasize that in this situation I faced the same problem you face all the time. Exactly what level to approach this person on? The difference is that when you are doing anything professionally, it becomes deadly serious. The problem is familiar, the pressure is higher.
As you know, these days you honestly do not know what level to approach somebody on.
As you know, if you don’t explain something anybody with a room temperature IQ should know you get one of two reactions:
1) the person is insulted that you explain something so simple; or
2) the person eventually is upset that you didn‘t explain that in the first place.
Either way you lose, and if an important constituent is upset with you, you lose big time.
Here is a person who has never had the slightest inkling that “the race problem” has absolutely nothing to do with THE races. Mass immigration and assimilation — intermarriage — are matters ENTIRELY for ALL white countries and ONLY white countries. Nobody even considers this stuff in the case of an Asian or African country.
Lately each insurance company has quoted how much money the average person saved who switched. To their insurance has saved from their last insurance company. “Confused?” says the spokesman, “Don’t be.”
This gambit must work because they are all putting it in expensive advertising. So the companies are betting most people are fools.
But I honestly don’t know how many people see the obvious here. Anyone who switches from one company to another for the same set of benefits does so because, in that particular case, it will save them money. There is no way of knowing how large the sample is. But anyone who changes from Company A to Company B is saving money doing so.
This should be obvious to anyone who is not actually in a retarded home and to some who are. But anyone who thinks immigration and assimilation is matter of “THE races” is a practicing moron. But every commenter I read makes that mistake. So his readers don’t notice he is being stupid. What else do they not think of?
This can be a VERY serious matter if you are in the business of explaining things.
When I was with the Reagan Administration, one of my fellow appointees with whom I got along best was a PhD Philadelphia Irishman. We thought much alike, because he despised “intellectuals” as much as I did and, like me, his roots were solidly ethnic: he despised “intellectuals who despised the Irish, and I despise the “intellectuals” who looked down on Southerners.
I once told a Catholic joke. The Catholic in the joke came out on top. His objection to the joke was unique in our society: He said, “Why is it that when a Protestant tells a Catholic joke to a Catholic, the Catholic always comes out on top?”
Let me translate. These words, from a proud Shanty Irishman to an Unreconstructed Rebel meant,
What do you think we are, a bunch of niggers?”
Blacks and Jews ALWAYS have to come out on top. Blacks can never be guilty of the murder they are accused of. Jews an never hat hate anybody else. By now the few intelligent people we have left know what it means when one is uncritical of the group you belong to.
The Partisan Dictionary for the Southern Partisan was an extension of my fellow Southerner’s The Devil’s Dictionary. So I defined “Catholics” as “A group of people who say some of their best friends are priests but they wouldn’t want their daughter to marry one.” The editor and owner, an Irish Catholic like Scarlett O’Hara, thought it was hilarious.
I wish I could claim originality to the idea that Southerners and Irish Catholics are natural allies against the necrophilia Yankees***, but Margaret Mitchell beat me to it.
But I got one letter that made me sick. It was from a poor little Catholic boy, probably seventy or so, who was devastated by my vicious attack on his Faith. He sounded like a Jew at his most self-pitying.
The reason the Republican Party is still winning elections in our minority-soaked electorate is because its two historic bases of power, the Solid South and the Northern Irish, pulled out from under it. It is the Yankee Republicans who bumbled everything when we could have won a lot more.
I knew I was in the right place when I did the press relations for the anti-busing group ROAR in Boston and the folks there kept saying how they hated “Yankees.” Me and Doctor Shanty got along famously.
*** Edgar Allen Poe’s term
When Medieval writers criticized papal excesses, the Pope responded that they were attacking Christ. It was, all agreed, His Church. So any criticism of the Church was an assault on Christ.
Today any criticism of the ongoing program of genocide against whites, immigration and assimilation, is an attack on helpless minorities. The picture of a critic of Church nepotism in 1500 would be a man standing beneath the Cross and insulting Christ. The picture of a person objecting to massive immigration and demands for “assimilation,” intermarriage, in ALL white countries and ONLY in white countries is a mob mincing blacks or, above all, anaziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
All this is thrillingly novel to the numbskulls who excuse their idiocy by their Youth or their Idealism. But it is no different from intellectual bigotry down through the ages. The novice monk who whipped and starved himself mercilessly and said he would follow Christ’s command to do unto others as he did to himself was exactly like the self-flagellating white of today who thinks denouncing and destroying his own people is the Highest Morality.
And to top it all off, they call it Modern Thinking.
One of the themes of this blog is temporal provincialism. This is the absolute conviction by each generation that every other generation fooled itself, but this one has it right. Today everyone talks about how the religious Inquisition was obviously wrong. But everybody is convinced we cannot have anything similar today because it would be obvious to the intellectuals.
The lesson of the Inquisition is that a fundamental error only occurs when the priesthood agrees with it. At that it never occurred to the clergy that a mistake could not be systemic unless THEY allowed it to be part of the system. They assumed that what they and their colleagues greed to in their wisdom was right.
Every generation makes exactly the same assumption. And every generation is wrong.
Including this one.
There is a battle going on over free speech. Like every generation that had exactly the same debate, this one thinks it is different. So there is never any debate about whether the “bigots” might have a, any more than any other generation ever considered that the heretics of its time might have a point. The agreement was always that they were absolutely wrong and useless and the only question was whether they should be tolerated.
If you understand temporal provincialism you will see that in every generation this agreement has been the problem. Free speech has a practical value, but only because what is most absolutely agreed on in any generation not only can be wrong, but almost certainly IS wrong.
Today all authorities who are allowed to publish, much less those who are PAID to do so, agree that any discussion of racial differences is entirely evil. It’s only there to hurt minorities, right?
Logically if you look at history the way all the historians THINK they do, you would expect that the most agreed-upon assumption is where our weakness is. But due to temporal provincialism, no generation EVER looks THERE.
“Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.”
The first job requirement for a respectable conservative is that he treat leftists with respect. He is talking to somebody who identifies with the position that said:
Criminals were merely innocent victims of society; that Stalin’s trials were honest; that all the thousands of Communist spies in America found in KGB files were innocent; that 83% of the time when a citizen tried to hold a gun on a criminal the criminal took the gun and shot him with it; that Castro was no Communist; that all races have equal average IQ and that to indicate otherwise was nothing but Hitlerism; that integration had nothing to do with intermarriage; that socialist economies were efficient, with statistics to prove it;
And so on, ad infinitem.
The fact is that nothing the left does ever WORKS, so every leftist program is based on misstatements.
In order to make a living as a RESPECTABLE conservative, you must treat leftists as honorable people. Each new assertion must be taken very seriously. Then you make your living pointing out that “They’re WRONG this time!!!”
In other words, you cannot be a RESPECTABLE conservative without being an absolute idiot.
Which is a little unfair to drooling idiots. By the fifth time someone tells a drooling idiot that they can put their hand in the fire without hurting it, the idiot will refuse.
As long as the money rolls in, RESPECTABLE conservatives will never refuse. And the sub-idiots who make up their following will pay them to keep it up.
Institutions have their own biology. They have a separate evolutionary process which may or may not gel with that of the people who make up the institution. People who evolve in the same areas tend to look alike. The same is true of institutions.
When people point out how similar the Great Religions are, they think they are saying that each one has the same truth. Actually the Great Religions have similarities in the same way that animals developing in similar environments have the same features.
All institutions are fundamentally anti-racist. National Socialism was fanatically anti-Jew, anti-democratic pro-militarist, nationalistic, anti-pornography, socialistic, anti-Communist and a long list of other things.
In Italy fascism was anti-racist before the rise of Hitler. As in all Latin countries, what was important was that you spoke Italian and identified yourself as Italian, regardless of the color of your skin.
One of the pleas a Nazi would use if he was up on charges was to select “race treason” in his plea bargaining, because it was a relatively minor charge.
Every institution tends to become more and like those it is competes with. National Socialism had to balance its endless list of things it was against.
Even the caste system, which is called the “color” system in Sanskrit, lost all relevance to its real purpose when it faced Buddhism and other anti-racist institutions. The Reformed Church of South Africa, which only existed because of Boer identity, sold out the white race.
Putting your identity into an institution is a great deal like Sauron putting so much of his being into the One Ring. The institution inevitably follows its own evolution and you lose your children to it.
The fought a millennium-long reconquista in the name of their royalty and their Church. Once they had established their Church, though, it became as anti-white as any institution. The bigotry of Hispanics was turned against those who were Catholic, not those who were not white.
The reconquista was a fight of Europeans to reconquer Europe. Now “Hispanic” means non-whites fighting to take what whites have. This was Sauron’s Error. They put their identity into an institution separate from their own biological identity.
In Asia, a dialogue can go like this:
“How is your lovely home?”
“That wreck is fine.”
“And how is the flower of your household?”
“That pig is well.”
So Political Correctness is not the only faith to look upon insults to oneself, one’s country and one’s family as the highest sign of civilized behavior.
Jesus reduced the Ten Commandments to two, something today’s churches do not accept. One of these commandments was “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” But the Trappists were proud that it would have been illegal, even in Medieval times, to treat anyone else the way they treated themselves.
Trappists have stopped that nonsense. Yes, even the most extreme portions of the Catholic Church can learn. A generation ago no one would have believed that the Trappists could outgrow their self-torture.
Dave has pointed out brilliantly how this sort of “sacrifice” is SICK. Political Correctness will have to catch up with the Trappists. Whipping yourself violates the Golden Rule. Hating and insulting your own is not immoral.
During the Stalin Era, there was a public meeting in a small city in Russia. One speech ended on the usual note of how all the wonderful that had been accomplished were “under the Leadership of Comrade Stalin.”
The usual standing ovation occurred.
Stalin was a couple of thousand miles away, but when the ovation had gone on for even longer than usual, no one dared sit down. The realization dawned on the thousand or so attendees that the Secret Police were there, as they were everywhere, and the first person to sit down would be arrested in the morning. So the standing ovation went on and on and on and on and on and on…
And, yes, the first couple of people who sat down DID get arrested in the morning.
If you know anything about the Stalin Era, you get the same laugh I do out of one of the slogans they used, “Have the courage to support Comrade Stalin.” That is like telling a sheep “Have the COURAGE not to get eaten by a lion.”
But we have exactly the same thing today. If you hear that someone “has the COURAGE to SPEAK OUT” you know very well which side they are taking.
No one who openly fights for white survival “has the courage to speak out.” Only anti-whites are ever described as “having the courage to speak out.”
In fact, this is one sure sign of a despotic society. It used to be the height of courage in America for someone to say, “I do not agree with your opinion, but I will fight to the death for your right to express it.” You don’t hear that since the WWII Generation learned that Goodspeak is the only way to go.
The media only praised McCain for Courage when he agreed with them on policy. No one in authority today does anything but denounce anyone who disagrees with The Party Line.
In totalitarian environments the only “spontaneous demonstrations” are those that have been prepared by professionals for reasons everybody can predict. In America, there are no exceptions to day at all.
Recently, I stumbled across a Stormfront thread asking the question “Can non-Christians be White Nationalists?” I thought the answer was simple enough but it appears people are much more delusional than I realized. In this thread I saw bickering, arguing, and childish name calling, but really, what more could one expect from Stormfront these days? No, this isn’t what got me interested in this thread, and even writing this. What sparked my interest was the sentiment that, despite one’s genetics, your religion can dictate your race. This astounded me that people would believe this. Religion is an idea, people’s loyalty to this idea do not change their racial make up. If I start quoting the Qu’ran, the Irish blood in my veins isn’t magically transformed into Arab blood by the will of Allah. And yet, this is what people seemed to be implying.
I took this as something of a call to arms, I tried to explain that this was simply idiotic and goes against every fact about race we know. Someone’s race cannot be changed; their DNA lasts with them for their lives and is furthermore passed on to the generations. Once adherence to an idea, whether it may be Islam, Christianity, Paganism, Atheism, Democracy, Communism, Socialism, or even White Nationalism, doesn’t change their genetic make up. As I put it, if a full-blooded Irishman named Seamus O’Brien walks into the new Mosque down the streets and declares the words of Mohammed to be the will of Allah, can someone explain to me how he is anything other than an Irish White man?
The fact of the matter is simply this; an Irishman is all he is and all he ever will be. Regardless of what idea he clings to, his race stays the same. Now, the problem develops that by adopting this new idea, his race takes second place. In our example, Seamus now identifies as a Muslim, not a White man or an Irish man. His culture, folk, nation and family have all taken a backseat to his newfound idea. This is insanity and serves as a huge problem in recruiting Seamus for any kind of racial belief system. He has a new group, a new set of peers, a new law code, a new history. Underneath his turban Seamus is still the Irishman he’s always been, but he is now a slave to the idea that is Islam. Anything short of race is just that, an idea, an abstract thought, a concept, and by clinging to an idea, you lose any sense of racial obligation.
Now after I made this point, I was immediately attacked. Apparently there is a line that once one crosses gets your status as a White person revoked. Again, this is just foolish. The issue of White youths who act like non-Whites, and that as a White Nationalist being loyal to these people was bad. Bad? It is bad to be loyal to people of your own race? Isn’t this the cornerstone of White Nationalism? I then realized what we know as White Nationalism is nothing more than an idea, it’s just as prone to wordism as any other ideology, and in fact all it is wordism. These White Nationalists refused to accept their fellow Whites because these youth’s ideas (that of multiculturalism and diversity) clashed with their idea of White Nationalism. So in effect, what we’ve learned is not even White Nationalists can think racially, but rather think in terms of “my ideology vs theres”. Now I will be the first person to stand against multiculturalism and diversity, these are two very sick and evil things (they are, after all White genocide), but these things are just ideas. They are silly ideas that require some form insanity to believe in. That said, to exclude Whites who believe this and somehow insinuate they are “less than White” is just as idiotic and stupid.
This may seem like common sense, but to the good people (and I use that sarcastically) at Stormfront, I had just made the greatest sin of all. The realization that the world of racial politics is simply a microcosm of the greater struggle began to set in, that these people will cling desperately to their ideas, their books, their flags, their personality cults, and be the first to ship their race up the river. What is wrong with this picture? Pro-Whites who are against Whites, simply because their ideas clash with their holy religion of White Nationalism
Yes, ALL these COINCIDENCES.
Casrro’s Cuba is now entering its sixth decade of STRUGGLE.
The nonwhite majority has got its President but that is merely a milepost (according to them) in eighty years of ongoing (and not yet and will never be finished) STRUGGLE.
According to the environmentalists, we face decades of STRUGGLE against carbon emissions and the very sun itself. (How dumb can you get? Struggling against the sun itself?)
When the economic recovery inevitably fails to materialize, the Establishment will certainly tell us years of STRUGGLE are required to correct our debt induced economic malaise
We WN’s own our (very own) endless STRUGGLE.against the nonwhite majority and our anti-white white traitor enemies.
But what WN’s need to understand is the language of STRUGGLE is the semantic domain of stagnation (and when you use the language of STRUGGLE, you are playing into the hands of the enemy).
In his old age Masanobu Fukuoka (one of the founders of the organic farming movement) obtained enlightenment about the hopeless state of his own people. He said, “Japan’s only hope is change from the creative energies of white people (who according to Masanobu are only people capable of real change), for the Japanese are incapable of change themselves.”
He went on to say, “ There is no advantage God delivers into Japan’s lap that the Japanese will not turn into an unnecessary and endless effort of labor, cost, and sacrifice.”
Furthermore, he said, “ Nothing can possibly be easy for Japanese. Everything that is effortless in fact, they transform into pain, cost, and STRUGGLE through philosophy“
He concluded: “They are the opposite of the efficient people they pretend to be. For them there is only one road, the hardest road and the most expensive road. They are incapable of IMAGINING anything effortless and easy.”
Hardly anybody gets what Masanobu understood: IMAGINATION MATTERS.
When you come to understand the importance of imagination, you are delivered into the vertex of power.
The effective use of your voice to enforce your own personal will (mostly through strategic silence) is EASY. Winning arguments is EASY. Spreading influence is EASY.
Defeating the depredations of corrupt laws and courts is EASY.
Dealing with tyrannical police is EASY.
Mitigating the assaults of the political system is EASY.
Almost without exception, the most effective road is the EASIEST ROAD to take.
This is the polar opposite of what the nonwhite majority and their anti-white white traitor allies believe. For them, everything is HARD. Everything is STRUGGLE.
And when you hear STRUGGLE, when you think STRUGGLE, you are experiencing the world of stagnation
Lord Nelson and Horus were interviewed on The Truck Roy Show
Thirty years ago, it was generally agreed that man would colonize space. Onward and forward was claimed by all political sides. But that was also when whites were supposed to be multiplying to the Soylent Green level.
Today all talk is about conservation. A Green Movement will not only keep the world as it is, but will cut back. Each human born is a liability, especially white ones. In short, by a strange coincidence the inevitable future brown world is also a stagnant world.
You would be jailed in Europe for putting these concepts together but anyone with the slightest knowledge of history and geography cannot but connect them in his subconscious mind. There is the Viking image of the Nordic traveler and conqueror and the ideal of the little brown people who are stagnant permanently stagnant and permanently oppressed.
A future of little brown people who are permanently stagnant and oppressed is conveyed by the words Hispanic and is seen in the Great Civilizations of the past who are now brown and fixed, apparently forever. They used to be considered a shame. Now they are considered Ideal, as “living WITH nature, rather than opposing it.
Which, by a strange coincidence, are the same words used by the same conservationist to describe the virtues of OTHER animals.