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Horus and Simmons, the Wisdom and the Danger

Posted by Bob on December 6th, 2009 under Coaching Session

Simmons says he may have committed BUGS heresy by just saying something is anti-white garbage and then stomping out. I don’t know anything about heresy, my specialty is human proclivities. Nothing is more human than intellectual laziness.

It was a major step forward when commentators stopped telling each other what the latest news gambit was and started talking about HOW TO MAKE OUR POINT. Just SAYING “anti-white” is step forward, but like all points it can get out of hand. Pretty soon you can end up are just saying something cute and walking out.

Which is how respectable conservatives make their living. And nobody gives Simmons more of a shiver than an rcon.

In the discussion Simmons talks about the only person there who knows WHY statements are anti-white is Simmons. Making the point of the Mantra is very, very hard, and any normal human being would prefer to say something and walk away.

I don’t think Horus is just giving an excuse for the least effort. But I know PEOPLE, and what he says can END UP being used that way.

We are in a unique position because we have to THINK about what we say. That is why so many BUGS comments are off track. No Jehovah’s Witness has to THINK about how to present his statement, neither does any disciple of Political Correctness. What we must do has already been done for them. So our task is VERY hard to understand. But ours is the most important part of ANY movement.

I have been in thousands or tens of thousands of face-to-face confrontations. I learned to ask myself: “What did I DO?” Bill Rusher wrote a book called “How to Win an Argument.” As you well know, that is precisely what I do NOT have in mind. A victory for me is usually when I leave the discussion and the subject of that particular debate is forgotten by everybody but my point is not.

If Simmons just leaves the concept that one can be anti-white, he has done SOMETHING. But if he stops there in most cases, it is useless. Our point today is that we have only two options: pro-white and anti-white. Anti-white is called anti-racist, but it leads to the disappearance of one race and only one race. It is genocide.

You don’t have to tell ME how hard this point is to get across. But it is seldom that the first shot sinks a ship. Very often a shot across the bow won the ARGUMENT.

But that, gentlemen, is not war.

  1. #1 by Simmons on 12/06/2009 - 10:21 am

    I thought I was clear of what audience I foisted my Mantra heresy upon. Horus calls them people of the consensus trance, Caste Football calls them the “drunk white fans”, and Bob calls them Mommy Prof’s puppets, but one thing they have in common is that they do not think, they are conditioned and trained to hold and speak certain yiews. Debating them is like debating your TV and I mean that literally because the TV tells them what to say and how to act and what to buy and basically how to live their lives.

    Your point is well taken it is about Genocide, but first I do the yeoman’s work of the thin edge of the wedge that breaks down the crazy Aunt Sally level of Political Correctness which is that thin shell which protects the yolk, basically by projecting an image of out of control hysteria. (or the Blazing Saddles version, “stop or I shoot the nigger”)

    Break down the fear of the crazy Aunt Sallies then the Mommy Profs are ours, they are like bald baby mice, and the cat has found their nest. First, “Anti-white” then “Genocide”, first we create people who can stand up to the CASs then we feed them the line of genocide then the profs feel the fangs.

    Abstract polemical thought is all good and well, but remember the Simmons theorem, “Its all personal.” Abstract hypothesis is just that, abstract.

    If needed I will cite personal examples of how this works from my own experiences and from others on our board, but for now modesty bids me to quit.

  2. #2 by Dave on 12/06/2009 - 1:41 pm


    Your theorem, it’s all personal, is right on.

    When everybody is on the same bus, no one knows they are on a bus. The crime of the “Greatest Generation” is that they upped the ante in legitimitizing a pscyhotic way of thinking. It is why our military suffers endless defeats. It is why Neo-cons exist. It is why Crazy Aunt Sally is a generalized phenomenon.

    A psychotic way of thinking cannot stand, and why we had better be planning for victory.

  3. #3 by Dave on 12/06/2009 - 11:44 pm

    There is a shortened version of the Mantra on

    I did not know how to end this shortened version until BW supplied the following gem in this post:

    “Anti-white is called anti-racist, but it leads to the disappearance of one race and only one race. It is genocide.”

    Here’s the shortened version posted on

    Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White Countries for Everybody

    The Netherlands is more crowded than Japan, Belgium is more crowded than Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve the RACE problem by bringing in millions of third-worlders and assimilating and intermarrying with them.

    Everybody says the final solution to the RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to bring in the third world and assimilate with them.

    Immigration, tolerance, and especially assimilation are being used against the white race.

    All this immigration and intermarriage is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries.

    Anti-white is called anti-racist, but it leads to the disappearance of one race and only one race.

    It is genocide.

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