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		<title>By: BGLass</title>
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		<dc:creator>BGLass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also:    the Creation of  new institutions (eg: social sciences) might be best used/ positioned as the Jewish way of grappling with theodicy. Jews kept their primitive God with the village- raid-and-spoils ethic of their patriarchs, but tried to rationalize “aggressive impulses” and “mysterious persecutions,” secularly, through Marx/ Freud.  That way they could have cake their God says they deserve, but explain it in a Christian white world where stealing is supposed to be bad for everybody.   Whites don’t need social sciences.   For Freudian therapy, they have to be made sick first, by his theory, THEN cured.   Enrollment in such are declining.   Freud’s ousted by rationalist-cognitive “therapies.” Etc.   Pre-Christianers remain a few religions behind and we’re onto a new synthesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also:    the Creation of  new institutions (eg: social sciences) might be best used/ positioned as the Jewish way of grappling with theodicy. Jews kept their primitive God with the village- raid-and-spoils ethic of their patriarchs, but tried to rationalize “aggressive impulses” and “mysterious persecutions,” secularly, through Marx/ Freud.  That way they could have cake their God says they deserve, but explain it in a Christian white world where stealing is supposed to be bad for everybody.   Whites don’t need social sciences.   For Freudian therapy, they have to be made sick first, by his theory, THEN cured.   Enrollment in such are declining.   Freud’s ousted by rationalist-cognitive “therapies.” Etc.   Pre-Christianers remain a few religions behind and we’re onto a new synthesis.</p>
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		<title>By: BGLass</title>
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		<dc:creator>BGLass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here’s an article repositioning Puritanism as “radical,” tied to “extremist politics,” authoritarianism, absolutism, fascism, fanaticism, etc:   http://www.ideajournal.com/articles.php?id=46    As Genocidal White All-Bad. In the age of tolerance nobody can own their own aggression.  If you see Protestantisms, not as Caholics (as a different schism from Gnostics), but as gnostic, then all Protestants are Gnostics grappling with theodicy.  Salvation by truth and Sacrifice for knowledge won.  Odin/Jesus is hung to get Runes. When All-Good won, Bad became a question of error and epistemology.  Now any enemies are just hurt and misunderstood—and Norsemen can analyze them as they love to do.   Lemmings don’t think all people are equal---they think all Gods are equal.   The masks of God idea and All-Good theodicy, where they’re so All-Good they can intake All-Bad, assuming others are undergoing trails that lead to Truth, won’t accommodate tribal village-raid ethics, in which what’s Bad for crypto-Unitarians (rape/pillage/theft by names like affirmative action) is Good if YOUR Jesus steals, rapes and spreads around spoils.  Hang for Truth was a good ethnic fit---but raping Jesuses aren’t confused and they never heal.   It’s the BIG LIE of  Jewish “monotheism.”  It is only monotheism---FOR THEM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here’s an article repositioning Puritanism as “radical,” tied to “extremist politics,” authoritarianism, absolutism, fascism, fanaticism, etc:   <a href="http://www.ideajournal.com/articles.php?id=46" rel="nofollow">http://www.ideajournal.com/articles.php?id=46</a>    As Genocidal White All-Bad. In the age of tolerance nobody can own their own aggression.  If you see Protestantisms, not as Caholics (as a different schism from Gnostics), but as gnostic, then all Protestants are Gnostics grappling with theodicy.  Salvation by truth and Sacrifice for knowledge won.  Odin/Jesus is hung to get Runes. When All-Good won, Bad became a question of error and epistemology.  Now any enemies are just hurt and misunderstood—and Norsemen can analyze them as they love to do.   Lemmings don’t think all people are equal&#8212;they think all Gods are equal.   The masks of God idea and All-Good theodicy, where they’re so All-Good they can intake All-Bad, assuming others are undergoing trails that lead to Truth, won’t accommodate tribal village-raid ethics, in which what’s Bad for crypto-Unitarians (rape/pillage/theft by names like affirmative action) is Good if YOUR Jesus steals, rapes and spreads around spoils.  Hang for Truth was a good ethnic fit&#8212;but raping Jesuses aren’t confused and they never heal.   It’s the BIG LIE of  Jewish “monotheism.”  It is only monotheism&#8212;FOR THEM.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The institution talked more and more about its right to rule.&quot;

We are fighting a religion, the religion of Political Correctness. 

Never lose sight of that. 

Simmons says, &quot;There is no Left and there is no Respectable Opposition without the word racist.&quot;

This is a true as it gets, the truth in a nutshell.  We are fighting a religion that uses the word &quot;racist&quot; to impose its theology. 

Like Puritanism, that religion is destined to fail to impose its will, it is going to fail to successfully defend its right to rule. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The institution talked more and more about its right to rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>We are fighting a religion, the religion of Political Correctness. </p>
<p>Never lose sight of that. </p>
<p>Simmons says, &#8220;There is no Left and there is no Respectable Opposition without the word racist.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a true as it gets, the truth in a nutshell.  We are fighting a religion that uses the word &#8220;racist&#8221; to impose its theology. </p>
<p>Like Puritanism, that religion is destined to fail to impose its will, it is going to fail to successfully defend its right to rule.</p>
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		<title>By: ioannes</title>
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		<dc:creator>ioannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this post and previous posts on the Puritans, I too have pondered how in the perfect past tense, the so called religious society from the 1620’s could grow into the monstrous anti-white institution that the original founders would not recognize.

Today, a few of the so called leaders of this industry claim that the bible of America’s founding is the Geneva Bible. I own a copy of the 1599 Geneva. From the onset the document and its highly touted footnotes are very universalist in nature. In my opinion, these very intensive foot notes written by the untouchable Protestant writers detract from the wording that they had originally translated in the text. Even the so called founders of the Protestant doctrine clearly understood how to use wordism, just as well if not better than their papist adversaries. No wonder my ancestor used the pages of this book for gun wadding.

In the elementary school system of the 1960’s, many of us had been indoctrinated with the mantra “America was founded by religious criminals”. With the regimes intended direction at the time, this mantra was very appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this post and previous posts on the Puritans, I too have pondered how in the perfect past tense, the so called religious society from the 1620’s could grow into the monstrous anti-white institution that the original founders would not recognize.</p>
<p>Today, a few of the so called leaders of this industry claim that the bible of America’s founding is the Geneva Bible. I own a copy of the 1599 Geneva. From the onset the document and its highly touted footnotes are very universalist in nature. In my opinion, these very intensive foot notes written by the untouchable Protestant writers detract from the wording that they had originally translated in the text. Even the so called founders of the Protestant doctrine clearly understood how to use wordism, just as well if not better than their papist adversaries. No wonder my ancestor used the pages of this book for gun wadding.</p>
<p>In the elementary school system of the 1960’s, many of us had been indoctrinated with the mantra “America was founded by religious criminals”. With the regimes intended direction at the time, this mantra was very appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: backbaygrouch4</title>
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		<dc:creator>backbaygrouch4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always a post click thought.

Puritans&#039; Progress

1600 - 1800 Fear of King and Bishops = Cohesion.
1800 - 1950 Victory/Independence = Division
1950 - BUGS Retreat, Rout and Defeat
AGE of BUGS Cohesion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always a post click thought.</p>
<p>Puritans&#8217; Progress</p>
<p>1600 &#8211; 1800 Fear of King and Bishops = Cohesion.<br />
1800 &#8211; 1950 Victory/Independence = Division<br />
1950 &#8211; BUGS Retreat, Rout and Defeat<br />
AGE of BUGS Cohesion</p>
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		<title>By: backbaygrouch4</title>
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		<dc:creator>backbaygrouch4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems about right. About the only quibble I can dredge up is, &quot; The Pilgrims’ Massachusetts Bay Colony fought long and hard to keep ou[r]t of the Puritan’s control, but they lost.,&quot; should read, &quot;The Pilgrims&#039; Plymouth Colony...&quot; 

The question why the triumphant Puritan strain has risen and fallen is beyond my ken. The amoeba like behavior of Protestantism certainly took hold after the Revolution with the mathematically minded going Unitarian, the lovers of the exotic opting for an orientalist Universalism with good old Congregationalism chugging along underneath. Class distinctions likely played a role. That the First Parish of Plymouth went Unitarian two centuries ago possibly reflected it being the oldest [and richest] local gathering. 

Your institutional approach sheds a good deal of light. Dr. Paul Gottfried looks at it as a history of ideas intimating that ideas themselves have a natural progression. This seems other worldly and the play thing of a master wordsmith but it is interesting and he lards it with a wealth of detail. Dr. Kevin MacDonald has promised a study on the subject that is eagerly anticipated as it will doubtless add his background in animal biology and anthropology. My suspicion is that on one level he will be seen as adding Gottfried to his own work and ending up close to where you are.

The collapse of the Massachusetts theocracy, which coincides with the loss of will by America&#039;s White majority, and is interrelated to it, is a fascinating topic. Whether  understanding it is helpful to our cause is an open question. It parallels similar developments in Europe. 

It is important that a White European Christian identity be established. Sometimes it takes a disaster for this to happen. The rage of the era, Holocaustism, certainly revived the flagging, dying cult of Western Jewry. Obama&#039;s election was a wake up call to White America and some green shoots seem to be sprouting but the entire weight of the establishment, all in place institutions, will war relentlessly against them, id est, us, BUGS.   .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems about right. About the only quibble I can dredge up is, &#8221; The Pilgrims’ Massachusetts Bay Colony fought long and hard to keep ou[r]t of the Puritan’s control, but they lost.,&#8221; should read, &#8220;The Pilgrims&#8217; Plymouth Colony&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>The question why the triumphant Puritan strain has risen and fallen is beyond my ken. The amoeba like behavior of Protestantism certainly took hold after the Revolution with the mathematically minded going Unitarian, the lovers of the exotic opting for an orientalist Universalism with good old Congregationalism chugging along underneath. Class distinctions likely played a role. That the First Parish of Plymouth went Unitarian two centuries ago possibly reflected it being the oldest [and richest] local gathering. </p>
<p>Your institutional approach sheds a good deal of light. Dr. Paul Gottfried looks at it as a history of ideas intimating that ideas themselves have a natural progression. This seems other worldly and the play thing of a master wordsmith but it is interesting and he lards it with a wealth of detail. Dr. Kevin MacDonald has promised a study on the subject that is eagerly anticipated as it will doubtless add his background in animal biology and anthropology. My suspicion is that on one level he will be seen as adding Gottfried to his own work and ending up close to where you are.</p>
<p>The collapse of the Massachusetts theocracy, which coincides with the loss of will by America&#8217;s White majority, and is interrelated to it, is a fascinating topic. Whether  understanding it is helpful to our cause is an open question. It parallels similar developments in Europe. </p>
<p>It is important that a White European Christian identity be established. Sometimes it takes a disaster for this to happen. The rage of the era, Holocaustism, certainly revived the flagging, dying cult of Western Jewry. Obama&#8217;s election was a wake up call to White America and some green shoots seem to be sprouting but the entire weight of the establishment, all in place institutions, will war relentlessly against them, id est, us, BUGS.   .</p>
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		<title>By: Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might change the word &quot;true&quot; in the first sentence to &quot;false&quot;, but maybe I&#039;m adding a time function to Shari&#039;s statement.  

I think these &quot;Institutions&quot; posts by Bob are important, and I&#039;m not just kissing butt as some do around here.  We are seeing before our very eyes the deconstruction of the Left and the Left/Right governance construct.

Take the issue of Feminism and its institution, which by my accounts is basically down to six figured tenure, public employee vestment and Planned Parenthood subsidies as its purpose.  Since 1992 have we seen a politician run on the Feminsist/Marxist like screeds (oppressor/oppressed)?  Heck the latest feminist to make the news is a wackjob professor eating her just rewards from a majority non-white tenure community, and then dishing out some lead filled hate. (some village idiot liberal B-board is missing an idiot)


Neverminding the still born institutions of health care and AGW we should look at the Left&#039;s institution that matters most to us, the &quot;Anti-racist&quot; anti-White institution.  

My take on it is that it only has encouraged the formation of Racial feelings, quite the opposite of what they originally intended.  With the right lawsuit the Left is almost to the point of grabbing the skull calipers to determine who is and who isn&#039;t eligible for government bennies.  Thank god for Obama, he puts value on our whiteness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might change the word &#8220;true&#8221; in the first sentence to &#8220;false&#8221;, but maybe I&#8217;m adding a time function to Shari&#8217;s statement.  </p>
<p>I think these &#8220;Institutions&#8221; posts by Bob are important, and I&#8217;m not just kissing butt as some do around here.  We are seeing before our very eyes the deconstruction of the Left and the Left/Right governance construct.</p>
<p>Take the issue of Feminism and its institution, which by my accounts is basically down to six figured tenure, public employee vestment and Planned Parenthood subsidies as its purpose.  Since 1992 have we seen a politician run on the Feminsist/Marxist like screeds (oppressor/oppressed)?  Heck the latest feminist to make the news is a wackjob professor eating her just rewards from a majority non-white tenure community, and then dishing out some lead filled hate. (some village idiot liberal B-board is missing an idiot)</p>
<p>Neverminding the still born institutions of health care and AGW we should look at the Left&#8217;s institution that matters most to us, the &#8220;Anti-racist&#8221; anti-White institution.  </p>
<p>My take on it is that it only has encouraged the formation of Racial feelings, quite the opposite of what they originally intended.  With the right lawsuit the Left is almost to the point of grabbing the skull calipers to determine who is and who isn&#8217;t eligible for government bennies.  Thank god for Obama, he puts value on our whiteness.</p>
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		<title>By: shari</title>
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		<dc:creator>shari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Puritans failed to impose their religion because what is simply true CANNOT be imposed. To do that ALWAYS results in unbelief,in whatever is imposed,whether it&#039;s imposed in the name of religion,or science,or the one true political system. Even parents should only try to GIVE their children what they believe, not IMPOSED it on them. An important reason to reject racial promiscuity, I think. You can&#039;t simply pass down, to children who aren&#039;t really YOUR children.It&#039;s cruel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Puritans failed to impose their religion because what is simply true CANNOT be imposed. To do that ALWAYS results in unbelief,in whatever is imposed,whether it&#8217;s imposed in the name of religion,or science,or the one true political system. Even parents should only try to GIVE their children what they believe, not IMPOSED it on them. An important reason to reject racial promiscuity, I think. You can&#8217;t simply pass down, to children who aren&#8217;t really YOUR children.It&#8217;s cruel.</p>
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