When a guy goes to prison the second time, the first thing he looks for is his own race. Even the giant population in American prisons is split between northern and southern Mexicans.
I am sure that many a hippie on drug charges his first time tried walking over to the black and Hispanic inmates and tried to Bridge the Gap, but few of them were able to walk afterwards.
Prison is a desperate situation. This gives us a guide to what will happen when REAL terrorism begins. We got a look at some of it during Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.
By REAL Terrorism I mean the stuff that will make 9/11 look like a garden party. Atomic or biological warfare makes knocking down two buildings child’s play.
When I last mentioned this, commenters said Government would just use it as an excuse to crack down. I’ve been in that government, and I don’t think it would last long. I’ve worked in prisons, and I think that mentality would take over fast.
I watched a news segment on the new technology that made a suitcase atomic bomb feasible. To illustrate, the reporter put on a Russian Army uniform and left a suitcase of the right size and shape on a bench in New York City. He left it for an hour, time for him to get well out of blast range, and retrieved it on camera.
My thought was that that must have been the only thing left on a New York park bench for an hour that didn’t get stolen in the meantime. The blast would probably have occurred in Harlem. That, of course, was not discussed on camera.
The important thing about that segment is that it happened forty years ago, about 1969.
In 2009 the United States Government accounted that it had developed a complete plan for dealing with a suitcase bomb incident. It took them forty years to produce it, but it was not in response to the forty-year-old problem. They didn’t START on it until the Twin Towers attack in 2001.
So you could say that they didn’t take forty years to deal with an emergency. It really only took eight.
They have plans to isolate the area and bring in supplies and so forth.
You may notice that the problem with the above sentence is the word “the.” When the bomb goes off, how do we know it is “the” bomb? I think everybody would be looking for the next bomb to go off.
The 2009 plan was in terms of the 2001 attack. And it only deals with one potential super terror weapon.
There is an old saying, “You can’t plan for total disaster.” There seems to still be a lot of people who think there is a Genius Elite at work. My opinion is that if you still think that way you can’t predict the real future, particularly a real future where hundreds of thousands have been killed and you don’t know what is coming next.
Ever since The Obedient Generation, who learned that the Government had to tell them when and where to relieve themselves, our government has gotten stronger and our society has gotten weaker. I think the commenters who said super terrorism would just let Them take over completely are blind to who They are.
This government consists of millions of bureaucrats, some of whom wear costumes.
I believe that in OUR real world, there is a point, not very far away, when we would revert to a prison yard.
#1 by Dave on 04/18/2010 - 10:11 am
Whether in prison or out it is always a lot of fun to watch the Eloi and Morlocks mix it up. That’s kind of what the Obama presidency is all about.
Just like the prison experience, catastrophes are about all the stuff that is missing that is really quite severely needed. It is the norm for people to believe that something can be done about it by means of “collective action”, like a Pentecostal congregation “volunteering” to be in God’s grace as if the devil were that easy to defeat.
And speaking of the devil, war and catastrophes “cede” the world. The issue is who and what it is ceded to.
For example, Katrina proved that in America catastrophe does not cede the world to the police. They ran rabbit. Nor was New Orleans ceded to the “emergency management authorities”. They just flailed about. So the world got ceded to those who were trapped (and helpless to affect their own situation) and to a fetid nightmare that to some extent is continuing to this day.
In addition, Katrina proved society in New Orleans had collapsed long before Katrina ever occurred. That is because New Orleans was ruined long before Katrina, ruined by something called “integration” and welfare.
We know what this means for America as a whole. So don’t expect effective “collective action” in response to terrorism. Can’t happen, won’t happen, and utterly impossible.
#2 by Simmons on 04/18/2010 - 11:44 am
You are talking in cross-currents.
Motive and means for production of a mini-nuke are still at state level not backyard Dr, Evils.
So we are down to two state actors with both motive and means the USofIsrael.
And of course they would only plan for “the” one suitcase, because you plan for control not total chaos.
Only two or three places they would use it, and they would have to be close enought to places that their fellow jews would care about which leaves out the heartland backwaters. (BTW I think David Duke was right the Jews in the towers were warned that day because for the life of me I do not remember a single jew bawling on tv for a lost loved one.) But not too close to actually hurt someone they care about but to kill enough goyim to enrage the masses.
Too many suitcases and we descend into a “Jericho” scenario the prison yard of competing factions (Jericho was a CBS production dealing with a Cheney like character detonating 19 nukes across America so he could rule) Dr. Evil wants to rule the middle east not Hayseed,Kansas with all his centurions battling one another not the “Evil Arabs.”
#3 by Simmons on 04/18/2010 - 2:16 pm
I have some experience with disaster planning, and there is a lot of truth in Bob’s assertion.
When the table top or sand box is being set up once and awhile the crazy referee will throw in everything, and then the participants will throw up their hands and say the hell with it anyway.
So if the gist of this series is to imply a huge conspiracy to set off the next 9/11 stampede for the ME then YES the planners know there are limits to the number of suitcases that can be used before it becomes a prison yard.
Is everything infinitely controllable so as to say one suitcase and Israel is saved, and nothing ever ever again will harm it, NO. But this is gamed everyday somewhere in America people have been trained and come to think like one another and these results filter up, and it is known there is a point where people break and head home to one’s own.
The point we are looking to see is when the ruling taboos are openly challenged, and that point is in the clouds of uncertainty.
So if an “Iranian suitcase” goes off our dear leaders will know with certainty absolute god like certainty, and then pray the sheeple are too shocked to think otherwise.
#4 by Tim on 04/19/2010 - 10:21 am
“(BTW I think David Duke was right the Jews in the towers were warned that day because for the life of me I do not remember a single jew bawling on tv for a lost loved one.)”
Yeah, and I think we are now being warned by Bob. When most people online start talking scenarios like the above. I pay no attention. However, when ole bob starts talking about big incidents etc. I assume the Norse Gods are sending messages.
I have actually been reading this blog long enough to remember a few basics. Bob has this uncanny ability. He tends to get a knee ache right before it starts raining.
#5 by shari on 04/19/2010 - 4:25 pm
There is someone, who has written for vdare, called Peter Gadriel, I believe. He says he is Jewish on his father’s side, German on his mother’s. Anyway, he lost his 23yr old son in 911. Made me think of Bob’s “drinking friend” whose family were sold out jews in ww2. This doesn’t change anything, but I’m mentioning it. Evil is EVIL
#6 by Simmons on 04/20/2010 - 6:46 am
Thanks Shari, I’m so used to “official” Jewry propaganda I forgot about him and his real suffering. I guess even propaganda affects me.