Archive for January, 2011
In General Comments (link at top of this page) one pro-white pointed out that one attack consisted of what pro-whites on SF are always saying: It’s too late to save the white race.
The commentator was too wise to fall into that trap.
This “too late” business is a prophet only tactic they have against the Mantra: getting off the subject. Look at the Mantra. What is says is that white genocide is a legitimate topic of discussion on what is a legitimate subject of concern to white people.
The Mantra points out that this would be a natural topic of concern for BLACK people under the same conditions. Like amateurs in Stormfront, anti-whites want to go straight into the hopelessness of it all, which shows why the SFers are amateurs: They make the anti-whites’ points FOR them.
Kicking into your own goal is a great way to lose.
The answer to this is, as I say, IN the Mantra. This is a legitimate concern of white people. What is the first thing an intelligent human being does when faced with a legitimate problem?
He DISCUSSES it.
Anti-whites use this “hopeless” business to SUPPRESS any DISCUSSION of a legitimate problem. We refuse to get into solutions — like the Final Solution to the White Problem they are pushing under the euphemism “race” problem — until we are allowed to DISCUSS our legitimate concern.
Right now we are saying we should not be called racists to gag us from talking about white genocide.
Another GC 5 pro-white quoted a anti-white as saying we were just whining. He said we are complaining because WE don’t have enough children. This is the same mistake Lord Nelson was falling into and immediately got out of as soon as I called him on it:
This is not just immigration and “being overwhelmed by numbers,” it is the fact that any time someone presses intermarriage as a “solution” he has in mind that one of the partners is white. “Assimilation” is being pressed as a Final Solution to the WHITE Problem, not the “race” problem.
Keep YOUR objective in mind. Those who attack us are NEVER doing it to DISCUSS white genocide, they are ALWAYS demanding that all discussion of it be SUPPRESSED.
Our goal now is to argue that we have a right to discuss this without being yelled at or arrested. We deserve the same public forum freedom of speech allows anyone. It is the thugs attacking and screaming down our spokesmen that freedom of speech is designed to stop.
Adelheim & Lord Nelson discussing debate tactics. They welcome your responses in text or audio.
Lord Nelson and Adelheim Part 5 21-03-2011
Adelheim and Creator Part 6 Adelheim and Creator go over recent Mantra activities in Iceland
The great thing about Porch Talk is that one does not have to worry about one’s qualifications. It is useful to hear a smart old man talk about what he remembers. In fact, some of the most useful things in Porch Talk is the misconceptions one gets to hear.
Porch Talk gives you the “take” of the older person on a time he lived through. On the porch, he isn’t trying to impress you or give you the Final Truth.
To me, Creator’s being in Iceland brings back a lot of memories of the things I heard, from decade to decade, about that country, without any particular coherence, but just as they reached us at random.
For instant, I seem to remember that when the post-war European population bust really got under way, Iceland still had a uniquely high birth rate, which at one point was estimated at a natural increase of once every 31 and a half years.
I also remember that in 1959 I was at a refugee conference in Berlin and was at a table where a Dane, a Norwegian and a Swede were talking very easily together, each in his native tongue. But Icelandic, they told me, was a very hard language for any of them to read.
I was also told that Icelanders would take foreign words and try to make them into a word deriving from Old Norse. They their origins seriously.
But mostly, I came to a deduction about the Althing, the Icelandic Parliament. Unlike the Greek democracy, where all the citizens sat around and shouted at each other, the Althing was set up in 920 AD as a unique representative democracy, meaning they elected representatives rather than the whole population assembling as in Greece.
But accepted history said that the Althing was INVENTED in Iceland. Actually the first Christian king of Norway was also known as the first KING of Norway, a single ruler totally alien to the earlier tradition of Old Norse society.
It seemed to me more likely that Althing was what the refugees from the first real king of Norway set up the way a group of runaway Americans would set up their own representative government.
Accepted history did not want that to be true because democracy had to traced to the East or at least to Classical Society.
Iceland was also known to have the highest book readership of any country on earth, including Japan.
One more thing that one heard about Iceland was that it first founded by Celtic monks, and that the population was Celtic-Norse. This was third-hand information, so one naturally had no explanation of how monks had descendants.
Pretty confused stuff, sort of like ea European whose only knowledge of the American South comes from talking with other Europeans who read Gone With the Wind.
Being a geography buff, Iceland fascinated me because it was both in Europe and in America. The Monroe Doctrine covered Iceland when it was already a Danish colony. Yet it is and is not part of Scandinavia.
But there is no doubt about which side of the White Line Iceland stands in OUR minds.
One commenter made me feel good by pointing out that Icelandic media would not have publicized the Mantra, even in an attack article, if they had realized it was written by a professional.
If you read my descriptions of how I got sure-fire big-time opposition strategy knocked out on Capitol Hill, it reminds us of how my effectiveness was vastly increased by the fact that others took credit for what I did.
Like Iceland, they didn’t know a pro did it.
It is like a low-budget hit movie. You need a pro like me to write it, but that does no good unless a producer like Creator comes along.
We work under cover. We are not IMPORTANT enough to attack. The media want to talk about the people who get the exposure, the Tea Party and the Big Names.
So each time I began the grinding work of identifying where they were going and finding the way to derail it and explaining it to my fellows, the media didn’t watch and ended by blaming the defeat that came out of nowhere on my boss or Senator Helms or some other favorite villain.
And, as I keep pointing out, this cover gives us the chance to exert REAL power below the radar.
So you provide them an opportunity to scream how anti-white you are. In all the noise, that dagger you stuck into the heart of their program went unnoticed. Establishments often die when they begin to see nothing but each other.
The commenter is dead right. People right there in Washington never realized that I was one who was cutting their throats on a regular basis while they had Carter and two Democratic Houses of Congress and should have had it their own way.
The chances of anyone in Iceland knowing what they are dealing with here are way below negligible.
The Mantra is a computer virus in their program. Once you insert it, it changes the whole anti-white and pro-white world view as it quietly multiplies itself.
In their trash job against the lady who hit them with Mantra shows, they got to use all their distortions, but the little virus crept into their program.
The attack was a carbon copy of a million of such attacks.
But our little dagger, our little virus, is unique.
Yes, Creator, your immediate responses may have slowed a bit, though another writer told you that they haven’t.
My own opinion is that of another commenter, that your media are beginning to feel that they have let a virus into their program. The responses they are getting just aren’t right.
Believe me, in a country the size of Iceland, the one Big Bigot would be a pet project on and on.
It might be years before the real effects of the Mantra are admitted in your media or fully realized by the Icelandic public. BUT NOW IT IS THERE.
Take it from a pro: You planted the seeds and they will grow.
It is lot easier for you to get depressed than it is for me. I hammered away for years on the Mantra on STORMFRONT and all I got back was more about News and Jews. You have planted it and got a huge response.
If you want sympathy from ME, young lady, you ain’ta gonna git it.
2 weeks ago, our Mantra video caught a big wave, here in Iceland, that is now riding it self out.
I want to find another wave, so to speak, to force this into higher circles in our society. To keep this alive and to continue the hammering on the anti-whites on different levels. Not that I find you tube great and will continue fighting the good fight there but to expand the reach.
“How do I, a lowly private, get the “a lot higher ups” attention?” “How do I get people to talk about Race all the time, openly and freely?” and so on.
I ask this because the only real reaction yet, to our Mantra video was a single article in a popular on-line media a couple of day’s ago were a “conservative respectable” wrote that we should be silenced because we “abused” what he called freedom of speech. I sent an article back today with our points, of course but am wondering about further steps to our advantage. Then we had a huge smear campaign in a tabloid.
No one is really taking the Mantra to heart here, except me, and no one is openly attacking it.
I need to find a way to provoke a “higher” up attack or find a way to attack them directly to their face in public.
Or, perhaps, it is better to let things “brew” for a bit…. let the “original shock wave” cool down a bit…???? What do you all think?
I don’t know that we have ranks in BUGS, but I think that I am rankest one here.
In a small population like that of Iceland, you could have cheap copies made of the Mantra and hand it out in front of the Althing or elsewhere.
This is not easy. For those of you who have never done it, getting out on the streets is a scary thing at first, so this is just a suggestion.
Let’s have some more input. This question is certainly not of concern only in Iceland.
A commenter discussed how a pro-white organization that tries to be mainstream discussed white traitors. They looked down from their heights and said calmly that those whites were only hurting themselves.
Damn if I look at them that way. In all of western culture there is nothing lower than a traitor. It is entertaining to look at the lengthy explanations of Dante’s Tenth Circle, the worst part of Hell which is frozen. They use all kinds of explanations like “a person who betrayed his benefactor.”
But the Tenth Circle is very simple.
It is for traitors.
Our Germanic legends tell of men who fought to the death around their dead leader’s body. If Infidel is the curse word of the Levantine world, traitor is the ultimate denunciation of ours.
In fact, the words are very similar. Levantine society is divided into religions rather than territorial nations. Every Moslem people adopts Arabic script. Yiddish is old German, but it is written in Hebrew letters.
An infidel is not just a wrong believer. The actual word means one who betrayed God.
Treason is the greatest crime any social animal can commit.
But there is a tremendous distinction to be made here that no Wordist would think of. It is a big one to us.
You see, a person may be loyal to respectability. National Review and liberals, to my mind, have only one real loyalty, and that is to their consensus. Please listen to me carefully here:
The correct term is not respectable conservative, but conservative respectable. If you truly THINK about that, you will get my point. The person is not conservative first, he is respectable first. He is not only part of the “mainstream,” the mainstream is his only real loyalty.
It is not a condemnation but a definition you need when you are offended by a pro-white taking a lackadaisical attitude toward traitors. He has a sort of Buckley attitude, that nothing is important enough to get a truly sophisticated person excited.
But this is not an act, it is true attitude, because Buckley kept insisting that he was part of the establishment, that his loyalty was with the consensus, a bit politically to the right of the consensus, but when the consensus moved so would he.
These people are respectables first. Buckley was in the conservative part of the consensus, but the moment any opinion was judged to be too far out, or too far back in time, he followed his real loyalty and not only went to the new consensus, but went to it more militantly if it were suddenly a “right-wing” extremist attitude.
So what you see here are the pro-white respectables, respectable first, pro-white as a modifier. They will only get excited when they are denouncing the Klan or some other offense to the consensus where their real loyalty lies.
To all respectables, we are infidels.
Sixties Lessons 1 was that the World War II Generation, which had been made the weakest generation through government impositions on the entire population but especially by twelve million of what were once free young American males being put through basic training, could not stand up to the screaming Bella Abzug-Abbie Hoffman type screaming Jews who took over in the 60s.
Whoever stood in front of them screaming in their face was Authority to the Weakest Generation.
Sixties Lesson 2 is what happened when those screaming lefties attacked all of the Weakest Generation’s basic values. No previous generation of Americans would have tolerated what goes on our Mexican border or the Courts dictating to us the way they do.
But in a way the WWII sergeant was the Weakest Generation’s Mommy Professor. They left home for the first time and were taught what the Real World was like. The real world was getting kicked and coming up smiling.
Basic Training said that you had no right to any emotion or any opinion. This the twelve million took as adulthood, whereas childhood was being coddled. Eighty-year-old men brag that real life was learning how to make up your bed so tight a quarter would bounce off of it.
WWII sergeants had very, very little to teach anybody about Real Life. When they recruited in my youth, they would say that “You’ll never get rich” in the Army, but there will always be a bed and a cafeteria for you.
The military was, in short, for those who would settle for security. Most of the WWII vets I knew had never had a passport. That sort of thing was handled for them. What I am saying is that they were not the people most experienced with reality.
Just as Mommy Professor is almost invariably somebody who entered College at eighteen and never left it, sergeants were people who entered the army and never left it. Kids thought they were sophisticated, because they were at home on military bases around the world just as Mommy Professors are thought to be sophisticated because they are at home at Harvard or Oxford or an Asian university.
But it is not sophistication to be at home on different army bases or at different universities. They’re all the same.
So, like yuppies today repeating what Mommy Professor told them, the World War II Generation was beaten into making their “adulthood” into the macho crap slammed into them by some of the least sophisticated people on earth.
It is incredible that we have to TELL people that immigration and assimilation is for ALL white countries and ONLY for all white countries. But it is not so incredible if you remember that the whole concept of adulthood since the Weakest Generation took over has been blind obedience.
Both the sergeants and the Mommy Professors teach that adulthood is learning to obey, to repeat, not to think outside their box.
And since half of those twelve million used the GI Bill of Rights to go to college, they had a double dose of this fake adulthood. They went from drill sergeant to Mommy Professor.
No wonder they gave the world away.
For those of you to whom the 1960s are ancient history, the Old Man would like to explain what happened then that we can make use of.
First of all, as I mentioned before, the headline radicals were almost all New York Jews, and they silenced the Weakest Generation which was then in control. Unlike young people today, the Weakest Generation associated screaming with What They Deserved.
The Weakest Generation still had a Stockholm Syndrome from the so-called training administered to them by sergeants who screamed in their faces. Basic training was to make “dog-faces,” obedient dogs or less than dogs. Actually no professional pet trainer, even in the early forties, would use those tactics on a dog.
New York Jews are a special breed. I remember that the most heated anti-Semitic diatribe I had ever heard when I was in high school — and I had heard the Klan — was from one of my sophomores I went to lunch with.
He used words that I had never heard before, but that clearly made kike or yid sound like a term of endearment.
It should be noted that sometime during his diatribe I came to understand that he was a South Carolina Jew and half of his synagogue was made up of immigrant New York Jews.
New York Jews were notorious, and we understood his fury. We could avoid them but he couldn’t.
When I was in grammar school the older kid who led us across the street from the school bus was hit by a speeding car that didn’t pay any attention to some hick school bus laws. The kid was lying on the ground white as a sheet, I mean really white as a sheet, with the muscles hanging out of his leg and screaming.
The long-nosed guy with the New York plates was actually walking around shouting, “How much is this going to cost me? How much is this going to cost me?”
It doesn’t take a Goebbels to dislike a person like that.
In public, the New York Jews in the sixties screamed and the Weakest Generation, which was at its height of power just then, instantly backed down. The more the radicals insulted them, the more they backed down.
Just like they had done with their sergeants.