Wandrin asks.
“Could a Mantra-thinker please help with some tips to address the “only White countries” argument when the anti-Whites point out Singapore and UAE etc, as seen in this thread.”
There’s always detailed arguments you can make
– most of those small Arab states have lots of guest workers because of the oil money but they’re basically paid semi-slaves and aren’t allowed to become citizens
– Israel has an explicitly ethno-centric immigration policy and most of those immigrants are jews
– Hong Kong immigration was mostly other ethnic Chinese from the mainland after British rule ended in 1990-something
– Jordan’s “immigrants” are actually Palestinian refugees
etcThere are a few exceptions like Singapore but once you’ve knocked down most of the list then it becomes obvious they are an exception and exceptions prove the rule.
However if i’m arguing with someone as slippery as the guy in the linked thread i usually just cheat by looking out for any little mistake they make and jumping on it and not letting go until they concede the point.
Psychological attrition.
In the thread you linked i’d have picked on his use of Israel in his list of examples and asked him if he supported their ethno-centric immigration
policy and i’d keep on it until he explicitly stated he didn’t believe Israel had the right to an ethno-centric immigration policy either. This would only work if he was jewish as he’d either wriggle around not wanting to say it or he would say it but be tetchy afterwards and easier to needle into
losing his temper.
Sometimes the truth works:
Nobody cares whether a non-white country opens its gates or blocks immigration. But the world would object if Iceland closed its borders. Every white country is supposed to be “a melting pot,” but nobody outside DEMANDS that of any non-white country, black, brown or yellow.
The “race problem” means a Final Solution to the White Problem.
Also do not spend time on any one determined anti-white unless you have an audience. You are speaking to the audience, not to the nut job who hates his own kind.
To be frank with you, Wandrin, you are still on the Stormfront wave-length. Mixing up our message with Israel shows this.
1) Aim at the AUDIENCE;
2) Stop letting them get off the subject. The point is not what non-whites do, the point is that there is a DEMAND on ALL white countries and ONLY on white countries for immigration and assimilation;
3) Don’t screw up the Mantra with some other agenda.
#1 by Epiphany on 03/11/2011 - 6:24 am
The real target of the Multicultural Left are the Anglo Saxon themselves. They pretend to target the Germans and the German Americans, while invoking the Holocaust. But remember, they actually hate the British above all. After all, the Anglo Saxons do not get to be called either British Americans or English Americans, but merely Anglo Saxons– or worse, WASPs. We are the only ones who are not Hyphenated Americans. Everyone else, al non Anglo Saxons, are called “Diversity”!
#2 by Epiphany on 03/11/2011 - 6:41 am
Remember, “Diversity” means any and all non Anglo Saxon peoples, in particular non Whites.
#3 by BGLass on 03/11/2011 - 8:34 am
Initially, Epiphany, imo— the wasps were seen as the thing to beat and many coalitions were formed to do them in. This includes doing in the Ulster Scots who came through Ulster plantation experience in 1600s, and source for all redneck, hillbilly, Deliverance movie images, kentucky, wv, appalachia, etc, etc., imo., and who (even in america, lmao and after the revolution) are treated like N. Irish (Scot Prod) loyalist (which is the anti-brit thing you mention again).
The hate against Scotch-Irish/ Ulster-Scot (scot prods from n. ireland in u.s.) may be even worse than against the wasps, (although Ulster-Scots identify as wasps, as border people, but not english, per se) –and in part, b/c they made huge part of colony population (as well as soldiers in revolution and confederacy and so on), and may be more likely to carry oral tradition, public memory of things others would like wiped out.
Which seems why many times, in those groups, they have a very hard time seeing what other whites are even complaining about, imo. Eg: Irish americans are well-treated by hollywood, especially if they are kennedys, hart-cellers- or in the IRA and can be played by sexy people s/a Daniel Day Lewis or Liam Nesson. They have tons of jobs on t.v., etc. It’s mostly Irish, Italian and jews, a preponderance of names s/a pelosi, and the lawyer piro, and hannitys and o-reillys and so on.
And how long can those trundle out Margaret Sanger as the only person in the world who ever said anything about eugenics, lol.
Still, Epiphany— it does seem there are slowly emerging groups who are less interested than before in suppressing the (REAL) voice of American wasps, English, Ulster-Scots and German descent—who are charged with being main groups of colonial america, (subject to “de-colonization” which is genocide).
It would be nice if others would simply give the devil his due and admit, just give a little nod, to how insufferable they all have been: “we’re sorry we were so jealous of you that we fucked up your country. But now, could you help us fix this?”
Just one nice sentence. (Instead of going on and on about their “contributions”. Eg: an Irishman going on and on about the “draft riots” to a roomful of confederate descendents can just piss them off, not foster unity, as a couple draft riots really can’t compare to the war and reconstruction. This whole new thing about how the Irish really fought the civil war for the south–is the kind of new idea that, is just very out of synch with the southern reality. Why not just say: “We tried a couple things and had some draft riots, but really, you southerners did take the brunt of the war.” Is it so hard to admit? So hard to give that little nugget of acknoweledgement? There can be so little emotional generosity!
After that, those people would be much more apt to get on the bandwagon of no-white-genocide, and “we’re all whites here.”
But the main thing: some of the others actually seem to want our involvement nowadays, and that is not nothing, Epiphany. There are people who are actually trying to like us, as hard as it sometimes seems for them to do (rofl)
They seem to have realized the whole snowball wasn’t going to stop at just doing in the wasps. Once they are out of the way, it’s on to the next stumbling block to somebody else’s power.
Seems the jews partnered with catholics, like in 60s, (using non-whites as enforcement, like in reconstruction)— but now, with the anti-white ball rolling and consuming more than just the wasps, the white catholics seem more friendly to wasps (colonists, u.s. english, german, scots) than do the jews.
Having people say they’d like to engage us, and even work with us, is a new thing, as far as I know. So, that means it’s time to make alliances and see where the best deal is.
We will keep out subgroup history, also. pretending it does not exist will not be part of our deal, imo.
#4 by Epiphany on 03/11/2011 - 6:32 pm
Let us not make the Israeli Jews happy, by hating the Muslim Arabs though. Personally, I have always wondered why the Jewish people want us to hate the Arabs, but not them?
#5 by Epiphany on 03/11/2011 - 6:35 pm
Trust me: the Anglo Saxons, the Irish, and the German Americans are natural allies. I would love to see Ireland, Great Britain, and Germany put aside their ancient hatreds and come together. They WILL eventually!
#6 by Epiphany on 03/11/2011 - 6:40 pm
Intriguingly, the Jews and the Blacks are now fighting each other– debating whether Slavery was worse than the Holocaust, or vice versa. This would eventually happen, sooner or later. Besides, the emphasis on race mixing and homosexuality, in the U.S. Media, I will hope will soon fade away. Let us boycott their anti–German, anti–British, and anti–Southern movies. Let us all boycott the Movie Theater, altogether.
#7 by Marwinsing on 03/16/2011 - 12:46 pm
For Example: