I was happy when I saw 33 comments in response to my seventieth birthday article.
Then I was disappointed to find that many if not most of them were wasted in a debate about whether BUGSers are personally virtuous by having enough children.
This is another old tactic. Remember that the other side wants to get on ANYTHING except the Mantra. So they say you should be out having big families if you really care about your race and forget this Mantra thing.
How much good for the future of our race would it do if the few Mantra whites had huge families and did not concentrate on the Mantra? It wouldn’t do our race any good, but talking about it sure helps the anti-whites.
I can’t BELIEVE you wasted so much time on that!
At least one commenter caught the ploy and exposed it.
But the whole seminar gets a string of Fs for letting this crap roll on.
Another indicator is when someone refers to “Bob Whitaker’s writings.” You can read Dave and tell at once that he is referring to SPECIFIC points I made.
I cut off the black guy because he was not READING our point of view.
By definition, a COMMENT is on something one has READ.
But let’s return to the basic topic here:
That string of Fs for letting someone get you off topic by arguing you are not a good kid if you don’t have lots of kids.
How in the HELL did you fall for that!?
The old North Carolina saying has a deep meaning here:
You’re ugly, your feet stink, and you don’t love Jesus.” It is a false quote that makes a point.
The point is that a stupid person reacts to any opinion he dislikes by assuming that the disagreer is evil in all ways. What we are dealing with here is a related point: a person trying to justify HIMSELF rather than his POINT. So this person attacks White Rabbit on not having children:
“Are you a REAL, a GOOD white person?”
NEVER fall into that trap.
The point is not WR. The point is not about Bob Whitaker being a saint or a scumbag.
The point is the Mantra. And when you allow yourself to get off white genocide and onto whether you are good or fecund or your feet stink, you are being a friggin’ MORON.
#1 by OldBlighty on 04/05/2011 - 7:48 pm
People are still getting caught off guard by the enemy pretending to be a friend, trick. I get caught by this one as well.
If someone is saying anti-white things, no matter what their appearance, Mantra, Mantra, Mantra!
#2 by H.Avenger on 04/05/2011 - 8:54 pm
Thanks for writing this so fast Bob. This is one of your more important points. And you have made it many times. lol. And we will probably need you to make it a couple more times.
OldBlighty,
I agree. Since this is not Stormfront or some other forum. We are not used to getting trolls here. So now we know. You gotta love success. Brings out the finest rabbits.
For the record, some people think rdc75 is confused foreigner who just does not understand things on BUGS because of the language barrier. This means people are trying to understand where he is coming from and allowing some leaway. Trying to help him out etc.
Others believe him to be a troll. I try to be nice and respectful on BUGS. We ain’t on Stormfront. But I did call him disingenuous a few times. Of course, he never answered. Our European BUGSTERS have got on my back for my “rough” replies at times. They say sometimes there is a language barrier. But sometimes the language barrier is just a troll. And sensitivity has never been a strong point of mine.
When in doubt go Mantra.
From now on, I am going with my patented response stole from Bob long ago. When returning a fools email or PM. I usually just say “What does this have to do with White Rabbit GeNOcide?” And then I quote the Mantra.
Long long ago, I posted the Mantra for the first time on a news forum (seems like an eternity ago). I was a wee little rabbit and it was my Eureka moment. They were not upset because I posted The Mantra. The AntiWhites got upset because I KEPT POSTING IT. They were frothing…….and I loved it. nuff said
#3 by Snowy on 04/05/2011 - 8:09 pm
Sorry for getting involved in that.
I really like your blog and usually I try to keep my head down and listen but it really just hurts to see our side tearing itself apart and calling each other traitors with utmost sincerity. Perhaps it’s naivety but I really do like to think that most people have good intentions even with their more abrasive posts.
Happy belated birthday, Bob.
#4 by Gar5 on 04/05/2011 - 8:27 pm
The way I tell Anti-Whites from Pro-Whites, is that Anti-Whites write long, boring, badly spelt arguments usually strewn with “You’re a good/bad person if you…”. That’s how they got their foot in the door, with moral blackmail and double-handedness.
Happy belated birthday Mr Whitaker. You may be getting a year older, but you are also getting a year wiser. Have a good one!
#5 by Roderick on 04/05/2011 - 8:45 pm
I saw the first few comments (most of which I didn’t even read all of) of that too and was thinking “these guys seem to be arguing amonst themselves rather then using the mantra against the enemy.” I should have said something.
I guess I was thinking that we don’t need to worry about mantra-ing ourselves because we are already aware of the mantra and its meaning.
It seems I was wrong.
I won’t let let happen again Bob
EDIT: Oh and Happy Birthday
#6 by James C on 04/05/2011 - 8:46 pm
Whether or not rdc75 is a sincere pro-white who just doesn’t get it, or a yarmulke weaing troll on the SPLC’s payroll, he has demonstraited how easy it is to get side tracked by BS arguments.
All those responses represent a lot of wasted time.
#7 by dungeoneer on 04/05/2011 - 9:07 pm
Point taken Coach.
#8 by Dick_Whitman on 04/05/2011 - 9:25 pm
Yes, I do feel foolish now. Let us not make the same mistake twice.
Also, don’t believe for a second that rdc75 was a “confused foreigner.” He wrote just as good as any other English speaker here. He also used all the telltale techniques of a troll (strawman, disingenuousness, misrepresentation, selective listening, personal attacks, etc)
I do hope Horus adds “troll Rabbit” to his list of characters!
Anti-racism is a code for anti-White.
#9 by H.Avenger on 04/05/2011 - 10:07 pm
The funniest part is that I am recording FTWR-65. I have been working on parts of it for the last week. I talk about trolling for a short bit. We got many white rabbits that are great and hammering trolls. Anyone that reads GC understands that. Peter White Rabbit is a legend at spotting them quickly. Jamie Kelso made me a monitor just recently over at WNN. He did so automatically when I shut down a Troll.
You are going to hear me talk about how BUGS has never been hit by what I would call a troll rabbit (troll rabbit is someone that knows their craft). BUT when BUGS does get hit that first time. Bob will catch him and make a good point out of it. Cosmic Irony. lmao. And I am now leaving it in the podcast.
For the record, rdc75’s IP was from [REMOVED BY ADMIN]. And he has posted here before. So some people assumed him to be a confused foreigner. I had one word for them “TOR”.
And Dick, wipe off that “foolish feeling” stuff. I have learned way more from Bob’s scolding over mistakes than anything else. That is what he is here for. He is a coach. And although he does not even know what the hell a TROLL is in internet terminology. He doesn’t have to know. He has seen it all before. You probably have not heard about “Ole Bob the Interrogator” before.
#10 by Dick_Whitman on 04/06/2011 - 12:54 am
You’re right. It would only be foolish if we didn’t learn from this.
As far as “old Bob the interrogator” goes, I’ve always been intrigued by Bob’s past but never thought it was my place to ask about it.
#11 by rdc75 on 04/06/2011 - 7:53 am
Just some hard facts:
1. I never attacked the Mantra and I never will because it is true.
2. “Whites don’t need a high birthrate” is not part of the Mantra
3. A large family does not stop one from using the Mantra, on the contrary a large family will give you the most loyal allies than you can ever hope for.
So basically Bob sais that any talk about anything else except the Mantra is anti-white. (Of course when Horus says “Whites don’t need a high birthrate” then this would also be anti-white because it is not part of the Mantra…)
Sounds like “wordism” to me.
“So they say you should be out having big families if you really care about your race and forget this Mantra thing.”
Why should anybody forget the Mantra because of a big family? I just fail to see the connection between the first and the second part of this sentence.
But maybe you should add “Whites don’t need a high birthrate” to the mantra, just so that people like me don’t get confused because I was not aware that I was attacking the Mantra at all.
Yes, I am a foreigner, I am living in Austria and my native language is German.
So sorry for the interruption.
Wenn ihr einmal alt und krank seid, und niemand da sein wird, der sich um euch kümmert, dann werdet ihr eure Meinung ändern, aber dann wird es zu spät sein. Nicht für eure Rasse, denn die Rasse wird weiterleben, doch der Kern der Rasse wird immer von denen gebildet, die den Willen zum Leben haben und ihn sich von niemanden nehmen lassen.
#12 by H.Avenger on 04/06/2011 - 9:13 am
We went over this before. You take things out of context. Selective listening cannot employed in any endeavor. Everyone knows what was said and the context in regards to “Babies” and “birthrates”. You clearly either did not get it or did not want to get it.
And by the way, No one is flooding Japan with Non Japanese and telling them….you have a low birth rate ….so we are going to create a blended humanity in ONLY Japan. And no one is flooding Taiwan with non -Taiwanese and telling them you have low birth rates ….so we are going to create a blended humanity in ONLY Taiwan.
Only White countries are doing this and only Anti-Whites are pushing this…..it’s GeNOcide.
Either you get that or you don’t.
#13 by rdc75 on 04/06/2011 - 10:24 am
Yes it is genocide. Yes, the Mantra is working in exposing it. So, yes I “get that”.
The point is what to do about it. Telling your fellow WNs that they don’t really need children is not really helping in my opinion, but seems to be the party-line here. Genocide starts at your own family.
I don’t think that further discussion will help. I have made all my points and when you honestly think that I am an anti-white who is destroying the White race by advocating families because advocating families is “putting you off the Mantra” there does not seem to be a lot of common ground between us.
Bob should reread his own posts about wordism and barren priesthoods, which of course he won’t.
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2010/11/03/both-sides-agree-we-need-to-be-spayed-or-neutered/
So, yes, I truely do not “get it” that the same man can write the post I linked to, and write this today:
“How much good for the future of our race would it do if the few Mantra whites had huge families and did not concentrate on the Mantra? It wouldn’t do our race any good, but talking about it sure helps the anti-whites.”
I can tell you what good it would do, you would get a huge number of Mantra whites in the next generation. Does Bob really think that this would not do our race ANY good, is a child really worth zero for him?
Seems like Bob really hit the nail on the head when he said (from the above link):
“The spayed or neutered morality is deep in our cultural roots, or more accurately, in our religious roots.”
To sum up:
I have a family and I am still young enough to grow it further, which I plan to do. This will distract me from the Mantra, therefore I am useless dead wood or even a dangerous anti-White who is putting BUGSers off the only true path in Bob’s eyes.
Actually this is exactly the same argument the catholic church made for celibacy: Children would only be a distraction, therefore no more children. And it worked in a weird way, because the priests of course stopped giving their children jobs or even church money. The church became a lot more altruistic because of celibacy.
While that may have worked for the catholic church (which is also really doubtful, they IIRC they introduced celibacy at their height of their power, therefore it was only downhill from there) I don’t think this will work for us.
If I have to choose between my family and the Mantra (which of course is complete nonsense because you can have both) I will choose my family, and if you think that this choice is making me “the enemy”, then there is nothing further I can say about it except that the gulf between us is much bigger than the Atlantic Ocean.
Since Bob is the only one who is allowed to talk about non-Mantra stuff, I better shut up now.
#14 by OldBlighty on 04/06/2011 - 10:36 am
“If I have to choose between my family and the Mantra (which of course is complete nonsense because you can have both) I will choose my family”
You are such an obvious agent provocateur. lol
No one here, told you or anyone else not to have white children and you know it.
Meanwhile:
No one is flooding Japan with millions of non-Japanese and telling the Japanese they must try to out breed the millions of non-Japanese, being brought into their country.
No one is flooding Africa with millions of non-Africans and telling the Africans they must try to out breed the millions of non-Africans, being brought into their countries.
And so on for all non-white countries no matter how rich or poor.
This is being done to all white countries and only white countries regardless of their wealth and the anti-whites are mocking white people, by telling them if they don’t like it, they should have more children.
What they are doing is White GeNOcide and they know it.
#15 by BGLass on 04/06/2011 - 7:56 am
Fighting the moralistic move can be hard. At first, feels you are boxed in to saying, “I don’t care about goodness or being good,” but of course, that’s not really true either, and that would make you “bad.” Just calling the whole strategy works, though. Like saying, “Being good or bad is just not the point. The point is…” Or “Everybody knows we can drown in the moralism stuff, and whether one is good or bad, and so on. But the real point is…” Also— just on the kids swipe, one can mention a million people who have contributed mega-things who did not have children, not even ‘just not yet’…but never! Anyway, this whole thing is a swipe at one’s honor and personal integrity, and a decent rabbit naturally jumps to defend him or herself, but calling it and nipping in the bud, just saying that’s not the point, and we’re “not going there,” works.
#16 by Roderick on 04/06/2011 - 3:44 pm
Talking about how many children you have/should have is not the same as talking about genocide.
As well having more children is not a defence against genocide. All having more children does is increase the number of victims needed to be targeted for a COMPLETE genocide and thus makes the enemy’s job longer. But thats it.
Genocide does not have to be COMPLETE for it to be genocide. That’s like saying that it’d only be genocide when we’re all gone. NO. Genocide is happening right now. This IS genocide, not WILL BE genocide. We need to attack the anti-whites who ARE commiting genocide.
We can’t just go to our beds with our women and do our things. Thats Defensive, No, we need to Attack! For now, the only offensive weapon we have/need is the mantra.
Use it.