We all know that Bob’s greatest failing is his indirectness, subtlety, and just plain being shy.
So when you don’t fully exploit a point I am likely to smile weakly and simper some indirect criticism.
SO LISTEN, YOU BASTARDS!
When someone asks what a “white” country is, you tell them it is one of the countries they insist has an obligation to import huge numbers of third world immigrants.
THEY define it all the time.
General Wesley Clark defined what he would send American soldiers to die for: “There is no place IN EUROPE for an ethnically pure country.”
There is no place on earth for a Canada that is not multicultural, meaning multiracial.
Don’t get tied up defining something for them that THEY have defined.
#1 by BGLass on 05/11/2011 - 8:34 am
Like on t.v., when they go on with that question, ‘what right do you have…” (to be protectionist, isolationist, keep created wealth from welfare/warfare collections to be spent on one’s own demise, or whatever.). The answer is obviously, “None.” So you go, mommy prof and daddy bully! Yay! You’re the man! 24/7, it’s human rights, this and that. BUT THEN, suddenly, it’s hey, “what right do you have…!” Human rights are obviously only for some humans. Does that make some people not human or what? You saying they’re not human??! Well, how disgusting! They say clearly what they mean, so why argue?
#2 by OldBlighty on 05/11/2011 - 9:35 am
Bob,
They use that “white” country BS, all the time. In the past I always pointed out, they never use “brown” countries, but your answer is devastating:
A “white” country is any country, you anti-whites >insist< has an obligation, to import huge numbers of third world immigrants.
It goes right next to the Mantra, in my notes.
#3 by Genseric on 05/11/2011 - 10:16 am
@ OB
Right!
@ Everyone
However, the DECLARATION I run into more often than not is, “There is no such ‘THING’ as a White country.” Or its first cousin, “America was NEVER a White nation.” Both equally annoying.
So, do we still consider them to be asking the QUESTION as Bob outlined when they make these two statements? Or is it safe to launch into the ‘to ourselves and for our posterity’ bit in these two instances? It seems to have worked for me even though they will generally still insist that it was ‘NEVER White.’ Does this create too much of an opening for debate about the Constitution and the founding fathers and NOT The Mantra?
#4 by OldBlighty on 05/11/2011 - 10:44 am
“So, do we still consider them to be asking the QUESTION as Bob outlined when they make these two statements? ”
You can try and maneuver them into asking the question with a repeater:
In your opinion there is no such thing as a white country. Anti-whites only ever say that about white countries.
“to ourselves and for our posterity”
I cringe when I see people using Posterity, it sounds like the Deep South appealing to State’s Rights, which as we know didn’t work.
Respectable conservative activists appeal to laws, because they fear being called racist.
They are ineffective from our point of view, because they refuse to talk about the genocide that is occurring. And whats worse, if that law is ever changed, the respectables will be obliged to obey it.
Posterity works on pro whites, but it does not work on anti-whites. Keep pointing out the White Genocide they are campaigning for.
#5 by Genseric on 05/11/2011 - 10:51 am
This helps put things into perspective. Thanks for the feedback!
#6 by Simmons on 05/11/2011 - 11:11 am
I think that is the only argument the anti-whites have left, is that there are no whites.
May I point out IMHO that we are not here to convert anti-whites to reason we are here to get them to over react.
These kids are in a cult which they believe is wisdom perfected and spewing this nonsense is right and more importantly absolves them of any responsibilty.
Jared wants to reason with these morons, we BUGSTERs want to destroy them and send them back to their hive to destroy it with the Mantra virus.
May I suggest one word to include with the Mantra argument, “You.”
Ex; “YOU want the genocide of whites.”
To keep on blathering as I am wont to do, I have destroyed several PHDs with using the pronoun “You”, its garlic, trust me.
#7 by Genseric on 05/11/2011 - 11:33 am
Very good, Simmons.
Utilizing ‘You’ is a highly powerful tool. This has worked wonders for me as well. A fence-riding anti-White will immediately turn tail and head for the door when confronted with this. It’s great! HAHAHAH!
Those blood-sucking anti-Whites really do suck!
#8 by OldBlighty on 05/11/2011 - 11:50 am
“May I point out IMHO that we are not here to convert anti-whites to reason we are here to get them to over react.”
Trying to convert anti-whites is stressful. This sounds like fun. lol
“YOU want the genocide of whites.”
Make them personally responsible and reposition them as social outcasts. I like it.
#9 by Creator on 05/11/2011 - 12:20 pm
I don’t only like it – I LOVE it 🙂
Getting in their face, shouting “YOU” is great fun, because it works.
@Bob
It is a lot easier for me to understand you when you are “trowing chairs”.
“who is White” is a question I get a lot.
How is this for a reply “The ones, you are insisting has an obligation to assimilate with third world immigrants.” ?
#10 by Scythian on 05/11/2011 - 12:08 pm
“There is no such thing as a White country”; it’s those specific countries you anti-whites insist have an obligation to import huge numbers of third world immigrants, you know them very well.
“America was never a white nation”; then why do you anti-whites insist she has an obligation to import huge numbers of third world immigrants? If “America was never a white nation”, why do you anti-whites insist she has an obligation to become a “melting pot”?
#11 by Genseric on 05/11/2011 - 12:18 pm
I have received this in response to [quote]If “America was never a white nation”, why do you anti-whites insist she has an obligation to become a “melting pot”?[/quote]
“Because SHE has always been a ‘melting pot’.”
It’s really their answer to both of your retorts.
#12 by Scythian on 05/11/2011 - 1:07 pm
And at the same time YOU anti-whites insist that ONLY nations that have ‘always been white’ are obligated to import huge numbers of third world immigrants and “assimilate” with them. YOU anti-whites are using America as an experiment for “cosmic universalism” with no regard for what the ends of your means will produce – that’s destructive practice.
#13 by Scythian on 05/11/2011 - 2:14 pm
The only end YOU anti-whites are concerned with is “ending racism” by annihilating the white race thru “assimilation”; “anti-racist” is code word for anti-white.
#14 by Genseric on 05/12/2011 - 11:56 am
Very well articulated. Pending your consent, I will be copying and pasting these into my arsenal (word doc).
Did anyone else see how easily it will be for an anti-White to adopt even the most seemingly inconsequential of our terms?
‘Countries’ was replaced by ‘Nations.’ Country has nothing more than a political nature to it and yet Nation implies there is actually a group of people living there.
#15 by Scythian on 05/12/2011 - 8:42 pm
You don’t even have to use quotes, it’s all yours lol. It’s going to get very interesting sticking the Mantra in peoples’ faces.
#16 by OldBlighty on 05/13/2011 - 4:32 am
Genseric,
If you see anything good here, swipe it and make it your own. We aren’t about ego here, we are fighting white genocide.
#17 by Scythian on 05/11/2011 - 1:51 pm
If “America is not a white nation”, then why do we have “minority status”, government forced “integration”, “affirmative action”, etc.? It is YOU anti-whites who have defined America as a white-nation, and it is your goal to make her a non-white nation. And we are all to believe your goal is good and virtuous? Says who, YOU?….FUCK YOU!
#18 by Genseric on 05/12/2011 - 11:58 am
This is great. Genuine passion is a rare and Hot commodity. I love it!
#19 by Cody on 05/15/2011 - 5:24 am
Here is my response to an anti-white denying America was ever a white nation, incorporating what Scythian posted above.
“The United States was more than ninety percent white for most of its history.
If “America is not a white nation”, then why do we have “minority status”, government forced “integration”, “affirmative action”, Eric Holder stating Hate laws do not protect whites, etc.? Everyone including all you anti-whites have defined America as a white-nation for her entire history. Yet it is your goal to make her a non-white nation, and so you deny it today.
I will let you get away with denying The United States was a white nation, when you start claiming china is not nor ever was a chinese nation or deny that Japan was ever Japanese. But I won’t hold my breath, as anti-white like you only like to deny my race our countries.
FlyOverMe, you are an anti-white and you state what you say in order to justify our children losing their homeland.
Anti-racism is a codeword for anti-white.”
#20 by Wandrin on 05/12/2011 - 1:43 am
Genseric
““There is no such ‘THING’ as a White country.” Or its first cousin, “America was NEVER a White nation.” Both equally annoying.”
The answer is almost always in the question.
——————–
“Is there such a thing as a black country?
Is Zambia a black country?
Does Zambia belong to Zambians?
Is there such a thing as a Asian country?
Is India an Asian country?
Does India belong to Indians?
Does Japan belong to the Japanese?
Does China belong to the Chinese?
So why isn’t Iceland a white country?
How can you pretend that anti-racism isn’t just a codeword for anti-white when anti-whites like you say white people and only white people don’t have countries? And how can anti-whites like you pretend you’re not stealth advocating for white genocide when you say white children and only white children can’t have a homeland?”
———–
So first you take what they say and turn it around and get them to concede there are black countries and asian countries etc. This is usually easy because most anti-whites have been conditioned to hate saying anything that could possibly be construed as negative about non-whites.
Once they’ve done that you point out the double standard and try and get them to concede the point. Don’t forget it’s the audience that matters so it’s better if they don’t concede so you can keep them squirming on the hook trying not to admit the same principle they apply to non-white should be applied to white. The longer they squirm the better it is for the audience.
I’d answer the America question the same way. Instead of answering directly i’d switch it to the more general case of “are there ANY white countries?” Use countries like Iceland or Finland so they can’t distract the issue with empires, slavery and all the rest of the things they only ever attack white people over.
As a general point it’s worth remembering that everything the other side has done can be used against them. They’ve spent a great deal of time and effort to condition white rabbits to be anti-white. So use it. For example:
“If the Japanese want to preserve their heritage and culture should they be allowed to limit immigration?”
“If Zambians want to preserve their heritage and culture should they be allowed to limit immigration?”
etc
White rabbits who’ve been conditioned to be anti-white can’t argue against that kind of thing precisely BECAUSE of their conditioning. And at the same time double standards are krytonite to white rabbits.
It’s all in,
Africa for Africans,
Asia for Asians,
White countries for everyone (except White people).
The whole thing is one big logical inconsistency so almost any question they throw at you can turn it round and you have your answer.
——–
I’d say the posterity point is really for pro-whites who have the legalistic / fairness thing and have a mental block through being told America was a proposition nation from the start. Telling them about the posterity thing ticks their fairness box and removes that particular mental barrier.
#21 by CrazyIvan on 05/12/2011 - 5:20 am
I think I will start compiling a list of ‘common responses to faq’
– Define white.
> Me. I am white.
> Native / indigenous European
>> A native European like me. Define Native American.
If they recognize the existence of an indigenous group then by admission
they also recognize all other races. Now they cant play dumb about there
being only one race.
– What is a white country?
> A country founded by Native Europeans.
>> A country you anti-whites insist needs diversity.
If they can’t recognize a white country, they can’t recognize or support
diversity / multiculturalism / affirmative action. Call them out on it.
#22 by OldBlighty on 05/13/2011 - 4:37 am
I like these and will be using both.
Just a suggestion for the second one:
IMO it is good to use nation whenever they use country. Country is about borders and geography, whereas nation means race. They can’t argue that white people founded the nation of the USA, or any other white nation.
#23 by Genseric on 05/12/2011 - 12:22 pm
Not that anyone here needs an ego stroke, but I just wanted to comment on how well-thought-out this post is and that I will be adopting much of this verbiage into the core of my White Countries argument. Much of this is steps above what I was using.
Learning something new everyday,
Genseric
#24 by Frank on 05/12/2011 - 11:42 pm
Dittoes Genseric.
The Resisting Defamation folks like to answer “What’s White?” with something like … “Anyone called a cracker or honkey by a Black, a guerro or gringo by a Mexican, a goy or shicksa by a WEJ, or a red-hair-green-eyed foreign devil by a Chinese.”
Bob’s suggestion lumps it all into another kind of anti-White besides the name-calling types.
“A White nation is any nation which anti-Whites INSIST on assimilating out of existence by forced integration with third-world imports.”
#25 by Frank on 05/12/2011 - 11:49 pm
If asked “What is White?” or “What does White mean?”, answer
“You tell me, it’s what we are called whether we want it or not.”
Or: “Hey, that’s what we are called by anti-whites.”
(hat tip to http://www.resistingdefamation.org)
#26 by Dick_Whitman on 05/13/2011 - 1:50 am
If the anti-Whites didn’t believe there was a White race they wouldn’t spend so much time trying to prove that it didn’t exist. I agree with the anti-Whites that we don’t have a 100% complete understanding of what it means to be White. I’m not sure any identity group can say 100% what they are or who they are?
What is a Jew? Or a Christian? Or an American? Or a Southerner? Or Black? Or African? Maybe if they stopped harassing us and trying to slander us we’d be able to put in more time to study this?
Unfortunately we pro-Whites have to spend our time conducting practical politics, so we don’t have the time to spend on more interesting questions.
But make no mistake, THERE ARE MORE INTERESTING QUESTIONS!
Anti-Whites are so fanatically hateful of this “thing??” called “White” nobody can study it under the proper conditions to gain a better understanding of it. Nobody can study it in peace in order to answer these questions.
Think about how ridiculous the anti-Whites chumps are who yack about “white privilege” at these conferences. These people meet to talk about “white privilege” one day and then deny pro-Whites from having their own conferences the next day. Mommy professor’s anti-White sycophants are truly fanatical mindless thugs (“des-bots”). These des-bots mistake their programmed hatred for “whiteness” (which they say doesn’t exist) for empathy for non-Whites.
Of course, anti-Whites will use the word “white” then want to blame the world’s problems on someone. But then they act stupid and ask “what is a White (?)” when people try to defend themselves against this anti-White slander.
These people (des-bots) say they are “anti-racist.” What they are is anti-White (whatever “White” means it doesn’t even matter, the anti-Whites’ hate it and want is done away with).
“Anti-racism” is a code for anti-White.
#27 by Dick_Whitman on 05/13/2011 - 5:20 pm
From post # 25
“Of course, anti-Whites will use the word “white” then want to blame the world’s problems on someone.”
should say:
Of course, anti-Whites will use the word “white” when they want to blame the world’s problems on someone.
If admin gets a chance, please fix.
#28 by PakehaRabbit14 on 05/13/2011 - 7:25 am
The come back I had been using was.
White countries? Thats easy look for the countries the Anti-Whites are pushing genocide/diversity the most eg. europe, canada, usa, australia, new zealand and so on. Compared to the countries the Anti-Whites push genocide I mean diversity the least. I mean have you ever heard that japan needed more diversity? Yet you will not hear them push for diversity in countries like africa, jamaica, haiti etc until blacks were no longer a majority in any country. That would be genocide.
But as always Bob finds a way to make our thoughts more compact and more effective.
Will also be stealing some of the other comebacks yall have come up with as well when talking at the anti-whites. Cheers
#29 by Roderick on 05/13/2011 - 10:23 am
There are alot of good arguments here. I was using something like this;
“Denying that a people exist is one of the early stages of genocide. It’s called dehumanization and it’s a way of justifying the genocide you anti-whites are perpetrating against white children(after all in your head, if they don’t exist then you can do whatever you want to them).
but that’s less to do with white countries and more to do with white people
#30 by Scythian on 05/14/2011 - 12:43 pm
People can’t guess my “ethnicity”, but they ALWAYS get my race right. I’ve never been mistaken for an “asian”, black, “latino”, indian, etc. My entire life, everyone – whites, blacks, asians have defined me as white. “Affirmative-action” defined me as white, employment quotas defined me as white, “woman and minorities are ‘encouraged’ to apply” defined me as white, governement forced integration defined me as white, the federal goverment said my community was “too white” i.e. there were too many people who looked like me despite the fact they couldn’t guess my “ethnicity”. So if you think now that I’m about to be “minority”, you are now going to define me by “ethnicity” and say “there is no white race”, I got news for YOU mutha fuckers, OVER MY DEAD FUCKIN BODY!….GO FUCK YOURSELVES!