Britons are still obsessed with Nazis.
Since Hitler, Communism owned on third of the population of this planet and shot anyone who tried to escape.
And who did Britons talk about?
Nazis.
One reason for this of course is that criticism of the Peace Loving Progressive Peoples’ Republics has always been a sore point with the leftist media. But the British actor Roger Moore hit on an important point those obsessed with ideology can overlook.
In an interview a few years ago, he was asked why so much of British cinemas and books are STILL talking about World War II.
His reply was very common sense. He said, “I think we talk a lot about World War II because that was the last time we WERE anybody.”
That was quite an insight. The world map then was still largely pink showing British colonies. The British Empire was on what Churchill thought was an equal basis with Roosevelt and Comrade Stalin.
In fact, Churchill only discovered at the Yalta Conference that Franky Baby, the Roosevelt who had been his bosom buddy when only Churchill was keeping the War going with Hitler, had no use for him.
Churchill was surprised and hurt and said so at length.
But the simple fact was that the use for his wet little island had passed. Roosevelt was getting ready to share the world with Comrade Stalin, and everybody there knew Churchill’s little Empire was gone, and Britain had ruined itself economically by being the front for the United States and The USSR.
So Britain retreated from reality. They still live in the Time of Illusion, when everybody told them that they were the Bulwark of Freedom and the sun never set on the British Empire.
They still take that crap seriously.
They really DO!!!
#1 by Dick_Whitman on 11/19/2011 - 8:56 pm
Ramzpaul points out that “anti-racism” is a codeword for anti-White.
http://www.ramzpaul.com/2011/11/child-expelled-for-saying-newscaster.html
#2 by stradivari on 11/19/2011 - 9:06 pm
Every day in London more young girls are ganged raped by imported Black and Brown thugs. All the while unrepentantly evil bastards like Tony Blair claim “privelaged White British women sould have to face the same hardships as women in the Developing World”.
The good news is more Brits are now realizing what’s happening and begining to oppose it. It’s disgusting that it takes this level of overt Evil to wake them up.
#3 by Frank on 11/19/2011 - 9:31 pm
Britons aren’t the only people still obsessed with “nazis” and “swaztikas”. See http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_19371954
A fellow BUGSer helped post the following at that site. I’d like Bob’s opinion on this “interpretation” of the Mantra to fit the circumstances at hand in the above link. Here’s the point that was made:
“Nobody says Chinese Buddhists with swazis all over their temples are “haters” and “anti-semites”, and demands strict punishment for them.
Nobody says Vegetarian restaurants in India (and China) with swazis on their signs are “haters” and “anti-semites”, and demands strict punishment for them.
Only when my people, the White Aryan peoples of Europe use this sacred symbol are they called “haters” and “naziswhowanttokill6millionjews”.
Anti-Swastika-ism is just a code word for anti-White!
Swazis for the Chinese, Swazis for the Indians, Stars of David for Jews, Nothing for White People.”
#4 by Peter Whiterabbit on 11/19/2011 - 9:51 pm
Frank, I can offer my opinion and I may be more doplomatic than Bob would be – it is way off message. Stick to the mantra or one of the many mini-mantras. Our issue is not to defend the use of swastikas, it is white survival. Arguing about swastikas will get you off-topic which is what we have done for 6 decades.
#5 by Frank on 11/19/2011 - 10:06 pm
Peter;
Thanks for the input. I don’t see anything in there that is defending the use of Swastikas. I was trying to point out that Chinese and Indians aren’t being demonized for using them, whereas Whites are. I was trying to make a point about a double-standard, not a point that is “pro-swastika” or “pro-nazi”. Neither was I trying to bring up the topic of Swaztikas or Nazis: the people who wrote the article already did that. I thought making a point that pointed out the obvious, a double standard, might be appropriate to highlight their anti-White viewpoint … all without claiming that Whites are “nazis”.
I had, and have, no intention of arguing about Swaztikas. Do you see an argument about them in the point made? I see a “pointing out” of the obvious: they’re not hammering the Chinese and Indians for their use of the symbol, only Whites.
Perhaps that didn’t come through? This is why I sought advice and criticism. I would still like to hear Bob’s opinion.
#6 by Harumphty Dumpty on 11/19/2011 - 11:11 pm
@Frank: I think the response of both anti-Whites and the audience we want to sway would be that Chinese and Indians WOULD be demonized if they used Swastikas and Swastikas meant the same thing in their cultures that they mean in ours.
If you have some non-movement friends who are not Swastika deconditioned, you might want to try out your post on them. My friends of that sort seem to have faded away…
#7 by Harumphty Dumpty on 11/19/2011 - 11:19 pm
“Communism owned one third of the population of this planet and shot anyone who tried to escape.”
I’m sure going to look for places to use that statement.
This phrase has charm also:
“his wet little island”
#8 by Frank on 11/19/2011 - 11:32 pm
@ HD: I don’t know about others here, but I’ve had a huge switch in “consciousness”, largely due to Bob and especially the work that Horus has done over at FTWR.
A big part of that “switch” has been to see that our race has had language IMPOSED on us, which also IMPOSES ideology, which ends up with us swallowing/using/seeing in enemy terms.
As I look at your line “…Swaztikas meant the same thing in their cultures that they mean in ours.”, I’m thinking that, yes, swastikas currently DO mean all sorts of “evil stuff” in “our culture”, but at the same time I’m thinking that this “meaning” has been an IMPOSED meaning, a “meaning” intended to put our people into a lock-box that we can’t get out of.
Now this isn’t about lauding the use of Swastikas, at least not for me, at this time and in this place. What it’s about is “our” tendency to just suck up enemy-imposed terminology and actually BELIEVE it’s true!
So for me, a first step in the direction of sanity has been to separate, in my mind, enemy-imposed memes from our “White Normal” memes. This doesn’t mean I’m interested in ARGUING “in favor” of Swastikas. It does mean that I’m more than a little interested in the practical politics of taking down an enemy system by DE STRUCTURING their capacity to IMPOSE their nasty self-hate memes on my and my people.
I see their attempts to assert passive-aggressive supremacy by playing eternal victim as a great opportunity to explode their use of symbols (like the swazi) to IMPOSE themselves on our “pity”, and do it by challenging their double-standards.
This is the beauty of Mantra thinking: it doesn’t argue that they have an anti-White double standard, it DISPLAYS that via cognitive dissonance and shoves it into the peanut gallery with barbed hooks that blossom well after the event!
But hey, maybe I’m just a crazy geriatric dude.
#9 by OldBlighty on 11/20/2011 - 12:55 am
Off topic, but I thought Bob might find this interesting, in regards to a piece he wrote a while back.
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2011/08/19/that-global-warning-waterloo/
Whatever they might do to us, could also be done to them. Or not.
http://iceagenow.info/2011/11/penn-state-investigation-michael-mann-reopened/
http://www.jewishjournal.com/nation/article/jews_reeling_in_wake_of_penn_state_scandal_video_20111116/
#10 by Harumphty Dumpty on 11/20/2011 - 1:29 am
Frank, I’m beginning to feel like you’re General George Pickett and you’re urging me up that hill! That hill where the enemy is dug in and cannot be dislodged by any kind of frontal assault!
Why do we say “Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White,” instead of just attacking the enemy’s heavily fortified r-word directly and saying simply, “[r-word] is a code word for White”?
One of several reasons is that the r-word is a sound, a vibration (if I’m finally beginning to understand Horus a little bit) that carries into its listener’s ear every single anti-White feeling and idea and thought that has been conjured up and packed into and onto that word by the anti-Whites! In most circumstances, as soon as that word is out of your mouth you are three quarters of the way home to losing the argument!
But IMO the r-word doesn’t hold a candle to the words Jew, Nazi, Swastika, Holocaust®, etc….that bundle of words and notions are a hellish primordial soup from which Western consciousness unfortunately draws much of its present form, and the r-word is just a minor demon in their service.
I posted at mainstream knoxnews.com for several years before I discovered Bob, and I could say what I wanted about race and racism on that site and produce only a human level of rage, but when it occasionally suited my mood to shove that other crock of cr@p in their faces the reactions were absolutely psychotic.
As Bob says, PC is not LIKE a religion, it IS a religion, and I’ll add, an “old timey” religion. By that I mean that it’s religion of the sort that existed before the scientific revolution, when what we refer to as the “religion” of those times was perceived by its believers as not a separate category of beliefs, but as just part of the self-evident nature of reality itself, that only a combination of madman and devil would think to deny!
It’s hard enough that we are intrinsically blasphemers of the religion of our era no matter HOW we proceed, but to also spit right on that religion’s most deeply-felt holy of holies every time its priests or laity trot one out seems tactically counterproductive to me.
Our aim as I understand it is to not attack the anti-Whites’ heavily fortified shrines by charging straight at them up the promontories they sit atop, but to settle and develop the surrounding virgin territories of “anti-White” and “White Genocide” until we’ve constructed our own mighty citadels of truth and the anti-Whites’ fortified shrines crumble into disrepair with the diverting of White energies to our own enterprise.
We’re not in the position of Hernán Cortés and his men to overthrow alien gods by a headlong assault!
But hey, maybe I’m just a crazy geriatric dude too! Lol! 🙂
#11 by Harumphty Dumpty on 11/20/2011 - 2:04 am
Frank, my view is that rather than fighting against the anti-Whites’ terminology that you correctly say has been imposed on us, we’re trying to do an end run around that terminology by simply ignoring it and imposing our own terminology.
“I’m more than a little interested in the practical politics of taking down an enemy system by DE STRUCTURING their capacity to IMPOSE their nasty self-hate memes on my and my people.”
I think we do that by filling Whites’ minds with our own terminology and thereby drawing their psychic energy away from the enemy’s terminology.
As to the “double standard” you refer to, I think it would be a double standard only if Whites were excoriated for using the NAZI swastika and Chinese and Indians were NOT excoriated for using the same NAZI swastika.
(Yow, I can still feel the anti-White power of that word “NAZI”. I wish I could have written that sentence without writing it.
In some slight ways I feel I have a slight advantage over those of you who have never been of the left. I still have vestigial left sensibilities to help my understanding of how our messages will be received. IMO of course).
#12 by Harumphty Dumpty on 11/20/2011 - 2:23 am
Frank, would it be okay if I reposted some of this on Stormfront? I’d remove any personal name and would like to post the post that we’re discussing that went up on the Santa Cruz site, and much of my two posts that are just above this one.
We do need those MP3’s from the conference. I think the first sentence in my shorter post just above was something I heard at the conference, probably from Derek Black, from whom I’ve learned a lot.
It might be helpful to have Derek’s and Truck Roy’s comments on this, and they’ll be more likely to see it on the SF thread.
#13 by dungeoneer on 11/20/2011 - 5:58 am
Only the British Establishment could make the brilliant strategic decision to swap German invaders(sic) for Third Worlders,
The WW1 German General who called our leadership donkeys was being unfair to the beasts of burden.
#14 by Frank on 11/20/2011 - 9:47 am
Mornin’ HD!
In this particular case nobody was charging the fortress of enemy-held wordism, at least unprovoked. In this case, the enemy fired their passive-aggressive Victim Cannons first.
Our response wasn’t a first attack, but the application of the mantra to their aggression. They gave us an opening and we took it.
Corey did a great job. Usually there would be a LOT of anti-White stuff popping up to attack back, but in this case only one person did that. I think the Mantra SHUT THEM UP. And lots of people read that online paper.
The second “phase” of Corey’s attack took their own language and “reinvented” it to illustrate the anti-White nature of the education system at UCSC. I think that was a good example of “Riding an energy flow”. Detect an energy flow created by the enemy and use it as a carrier for our own message points.
Job well done SWARM.
#15 by Harumphty Dumpty on 11/20/2011 - 11:36 am
Morning, Frank. I’m having second thoughts about reposting our discussion on SF, since I suspect my own view would probably be misunderstood as “bugs is like amren.” A statement which I really shouldn’t write explicitly even here. Sigh.
Well, I can’t help but admire your sturdy spirit…spirits like yours brighten my own…but I can’t agree with your view!
Otoh, I’ve felt good about David Duke’s direct attack on that set of anti-Whites. I now want to look at such videos of his much more closely and see if I truly feel good about them. I suspect I still will, and if I do, I want to clarify for myself why I don’t think that approach is correct for us here but is correct for David. I do think, rightly or wrongly, that the post we’re discussing is a direct and counterproductive attack on a heavily fortified position of the enemy.
But my mind is open, and I think we’ve laid out a pretty decent discussion of the issue that may help others who want to think about it.
I think the simplest, most easily understood response to your position so far has been Peter’s very short but excellent comment at 9:51 pm yesterday.
#16 by Harumphty Dumpty on 11/20/2011 - 1:53 pm
Frank, I touched up my long post above and posted it on SF with a little comment:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t832625-55/
#17 by Peter Whiterabbit on 11/20/2011 - 2:01 pm
Frank, your statement is about white symbols but does not mention white genocide once. White genocide via massive non-white immigration and assimilation in every white nation and only white nations is our message.
Maybe you can post your message on Horus’ board and see what he thinks about it.
#18 by Lord Nelson on 11/20/2011 - 2:26 pm
“Churchill was surprised and hurt and said so at length”
Serves that IDIOT Churchill right!
I am a big Amerfile. And in my opinion. Not only were the American founding farthers among the greatest people who ever graced Gods good earth. But America winning the war of independence was one of the best things that has ever happend. However, if Churchill had botherered to read up on, and more importantly, had actually understood, what REALLY happened in the build up to, and during the war of independance. He would have realized exactly what was coming at the Yalta Conference. And the decades following WW2
The whole role of the European powers in WW2 is that of useful idiots. But with Briton playing the biggest useful idiot of them all. Unlike countries like France and Poland. Briton had plenty of time to pull back from the abyss. But under Churchill, Briton throw that opportunity back in Germany and Hitlers face.
As I understand it, Briton supposedly went into WW2 with it’s empire to protect Poland. We came out the other end bankrupt. And with Poland along with half of Europe under the boot of the soviet communists. Who then went on to murder around 28 million innocent Europeans. While the other half of Europe including Briton fell under the dominance of the USA. The USA may have been a good country. But it was also a country that was understandably, about to enjoy the biggest power trip that was ever handed to any country in world history. And we Europeans only have ourselves to blame.
I still remember as a young kid back in the 1970’s when the UK TV News was full of American Generals talking ‘seriously’ about fighting a “limited nuclear war in Europe”.
The idea was that if it ever kicked off between the USA and Russia. Over say, a country like Cuba, that was just 90 miles off the coast of Florida. Then the USA would go ahead and Nuke cities like Warsaw and Prague. This would really p@ss off the Russians who would retaliate by Nuking say, Rome, Paris and Vienna. At this point the Americans would have no choice but to ‘glass parking lot’ every major city in Eastern Europe. The Russians would then do like wise to London, Stockholm and the rest of western Europe.
To an alien it may appear insane to vaporise historic cities like Rome, Prague, and Vienna etc.. Just to try and save the “Great Workers Paradise” and some 50 year old concrete sky scrapers. But every damn thing that ever comes out of WW2 is completely insane.
“And we Europeans only have ourselves to blame”.
In my opinion. Any Brit who still believes that this was “our finest hour” is an even bigger idiot than Churchill was.
It’s easy to see why a high born member of the British establishment like Churchill would be obsessed with the idea of ruling over an empire, just like other members of his class had done before him. But you will find that the average Brit, including those who were alive at that time, really could not have cared much less about it.
The general American interest in the British empire is much harder to understand. I even had an American friend try to tell me that the reason my namesake ‘Lord Nelson’ was a great man, was because he led what was then, the biggest and most powerful damn navy in the whole world. Just like the US navy is today. The crazy thing was he actually thought he was paying a compliment. Any Brit or even most Europeans could easily see how that statement was not only untrue, but actually insulting.
For thousands of years the phsyc of the British people (not necessarily the ruling class) has ALWAYS been that of a small island, off the coast of a much larger and more powerful continent. Always has been. Always will be.
WW2 is easily the biggest and stupidest disaster in European history. And it’s consequences are still unfolding. But for me, it all seems to have gone wrong for Briton around the 14th of October 1066. That’s probably when Churchill’s and the rest of our idiot elites ancestors got here.
#19 by Epiphany on 11/21/2011 - 4:19 am
The Germans and the English must be reminded that they are the same people, genetically speaking. We cannot let the English be played against the Germans, time and time again!
#20 by Epiphany on 11/21/2011 - 4:23 am
Wait, perhaps the History of the Second War is the key to everything. As the late Joseph Sobran had stated, “attacks on the Third Reich are actually veiled attacks on Western Civilization in general”, or words to that affect.
Indeed, by undermining Christianity, the Atheists and the Agnostics have made the West more suscpetible to Jewish and Islamic infection. Christianity is our only defense! Christianity is our Sword and Shield! Christianity is the way to defend ourselves against Political Correctness!
#21 by Gar5 on 11/21/2011 - 9:52 am
Fine, well you sit in your house reading the Bible and we bugsters will be out attacking the anti-White system.
#22 by Wandrin on 11/23/2011 - 5:11 am
It’s psychological manipulation.
1. People have natural patriotic instincts.
2. The other side stealthed their way into positions where they control the creation of culture i.e. media and education.
3. They created a culture where *all* British history is shameful (empire, slavery, colonies etc) *except* WWII.
4. So they built a wall around people’s natural patriotism leaving one window open so all the natural patriotism is channelled into an anti-racist (aka anti-white), anti-nationalist, anti-german direction.
It’s simple behavior modification, punishment for displaying patriotism outside of the WWII contest, rewards for displaying patriotism within the WWII context.
It illustrates how critical it is for a nation to control the creation of its own culture. If a hostile group captures that ability it’s effectively the same as having a brain virus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgAEeisfHW8
(At the same time it creates their big weakness. They’re engineering a genocide while justifying it on the basis of what they say is the ultimate sin – genocide. Hence the strength of the mantra pointing out the fundamental moral inconsistency.)