As to A3P using the Mantra, I was pleasantly surprised to see that MRS. Kelso has joined in the fray.
All that I knew about the lady from the hurried phone calls and Skypes I have had with Kelso was that Kelso is the proudest father this world has seen in just over two thousand years.
Let’s be sure we understand what WE are trying to do with the American Third Position using the Mantra. I proposed some time ago that we could get the Mantra on radio and TV and past censorship very CHEAPLY if a valid candidate would use it.
Kelso knew exactly what I was talking about. He said they could get ads on TV for something like ten dollars, since stations are required to give the lowest possible rate to campaign ads, and they cannot censor the content.
That would seem to cinch it, but if you have been out in the field as long as I have, you are fully aware that the best and most obvious ideas require a concentrated effort to get DONE no matter how agreeable everybody is.
I got the impression that the people asking Mrs. Kelso about using the Mantra may have left the impression it should be worked into their campaign.
No, what I had in mind was that we BUGSERS could send small checks to Kelso or his lady with “Mantra ads” in the little bottom left-hand place for how it is used.
OK. They have the dollars you send, I’ll go for at least a hundred. THEN they must arrange for an ad with the candidate saying, PERSONALLY, “I have endorsed this ad” or whatever. The ad, to be simple, could consist of someone, I would suggest the one I did, stating the Mantra.
Campaigns and combat have some characteristics in common, and I have been in both.
One characteristic is that you can forget to fire your gun. At Normandy thousands left their weapons behind, including some who were charging right on.
In other words, in war or politics the most obvious thing is routinely overlooked.
Kelso has agreed and Mrs. Kelso can be reached by some of our people, so it looks like a molehill between us and those ads.
It’s a mountain, gang.
Since writing the above, I called Jamie Kelso and I will be sending the first Mantra check for a hundred dollars.
I told him I wanted to see a Mantra ad and he said he could do it in a week. He said that was “optimistic,” but we have to get STARTED. I know they have to reserve the time, and that will take more than a week, but I want to see something DONE.
This is what I did for a living, and Kelso understands my persistence. We’ve been working together a long time.
You may want to wait to SEE something before you send a small check.
As I said, I want the checks to go to Kelso and not the party, where, no matter how many messages you send, the money is likely to just drop into the general fund.
I will address my check to:
James Kelso: MANTRA
Pobox5552
Grand Forks, ND 58206
Once again, you can all him, 24/7 at
561-351-4424
This is too good to be true, but if we can get it done, a LOT of people will hear the Mantra.
#1 by Genseric on 12/31/2011 - 11:57 am
Bob,
How do you feel about my openly soliciting this ad campaign on pro-white web sites with the aforementioned information being posted? I know you just posted in a public place. But, I am thinking of a MORE public place. Would that be construed as an invasion of Mr. Kelso’s privacy?
I am thinking of a larger Mantra funnel.
If I don’t hear back from you by 2012, then I will begin soliciting for Mantra donations on January 1.
#2 by H.Avenger on 12/31/2011 - 1:16 pm
Genseric,
IMO, Bob just did that on BUGS. Lets get it going and see something first. That will make it much easier to advertise it all over the place.
#3 by Peter Whiterabbit on 12/31/2011 - 1:17 pm
Genseric, why not call Kelso and ask him?
If ads are produced, i will certainly send a check to Kelso.
#4 by Sigrid on 12/31/2011 - 1:47 pm
Genseric and Peter Whiterabbit,
Bob did speak with Jamie Kelso. I’m Jamie’s wife, Linda. I overheard the conversation. But Genseric, I’m not sure what you want to advertise more about or to whom, or to which sites. Please let me know.
I can be reached in many ways.
lindakelso@hotmail.com
PM “Sigrid” on http://www.whitenewsnow.com
If you want my phone number, either PM me on WNN or e-mail me at the above address. I don’t feel comfortable in distributing it online which, I’m sure, you can understand.
Patience is a virtue, though, as funds need to be (and are being) raised via the BUGSters (hopefully) and by A3P members, and ads will be produced, and all things will come into order. Ads do take time to produce as long as there are enough funds and those willing to make the ads.
Don’t fret! Jamie and I are with you.
Again, patience is key.
#5 by Sigrid on 12/31/2011 - 1:51 pm
Also, is it possible to put our own special BUGS area from WNN as a link on this site? I see Swarmfront for Stormfront, but not our area.
Here it is:
http://www.whitenewsnow.com/bob-whitakers-pro-white-bbq/
I see that you have a link for WNN, but wanted others to know that we have a special subforum for BUGS, too.
Thank you.
#6 by The Old Man of the Mountain on 12/31/2011 - 7:06 pm
Kelso has as much energy as any 10 people I know, how much energy is a houseful of little Kelso’s going to have?
#7 by Sigrid on 12/31/2011 - 8:01 pm
LOL @ The Old Man of the Mountain . . .
If I had as much energy as him, I could probably literally move mountains.
#8 by Harumphty Dumpty on 12/31/2011 - 10:02 pm
OFF-TOPIC NOTE
Is there an easy way you could put a link at the end of our old “Where did you post the mantra” thread that would direct anyone who arrives there to our current “Where did you post….” thread?
In a lot of our old posts off-site, we’ve linked to the old thread!
#9 by Harumphty Dumpty on 12/31/2011 - 11:09 pm
At the top of many pages are the three links ‘Home › Forums › BUGS SWARM ›’
The link BUGS SWARM is really an INDEX OF THREADS now, and I’m thinking that might be a better name for it (any way of also making the list alphabetical?). That would alert newcomers as well as some oldsters that there are more threads here than appear in the right margin, and would indicate immediately how to find all the threads. That will effectively expand the site for some of us while also lessening the creation of new threads that duplicate ones already started and thus spread all over the place information that should be on a single thread.
That’s the chief point I wanted to make. “HOME” is okay I guess. But the name “BOB’S LATEST” would identify its content better and has a little more pizazz.
The link “FORUM” seems to just link to whatever forum is being most discussed at the moment? Or something like that?
I’m not clear on the usefulness of that. I’m thinking a link “NEWCOMERS” to our “Are you new to BUGS Swarm?” thread would be more useful. Newcomers would spot it, and it would make them feel immediately that they are of special importance to us, and the first post there is an excellent intro for newcomers to read.
Hm, I hate to toss out the term “BUGS SWARM.” Maybe a “NEWCOMERS” link could be titled instead, “NEWCOMERS to BUGS SWARM”!
Those of us who’ve been here for awhile learn to find our way around the site no matter how things are labeled…it doesn’t much matter for us (even a computer dunce like myself figured out a few days ago after several months here that there was a way I could find old threads). My eye is always toward making it easy and welcoming for new persons to start bugstering and to become bugsters.
Thanks a lot for doing what you do!!
#10 by Harumphty Dumpty on 12/31/2011 - 11:41 pm
P.S.:
In addition to renaming the link BUGS SWARM as INDEX OF THREADS, in the right margin, “Swarm Topics” might be helpfully renamed “Recent Swarm Topics.” Otherwise, a reader tends to think those links are all the discussions there are. I’ve seen that cause a problem.
#11 by dungeoneer on 01/01/2012 - 12:58 am
For those of us overseas folks who can only afford to send small amounts,would it be acceptable to send our contribution via the PayPal button on the WhiteNewsNow forum?
#12 by Sigrid on 01/01/2012 - 12:19 pm
Yes, we have a PayPal feature on WNN, as you stated, and that would work, too.
#13 by Coniglio Bianco on 01/01/2012 - 3:02 am
Whatever happened to the thing with Calvert? You know the thing that was supposed to get us tens of millions of hits instead of tens of thousands? The thing that was going to get the media to pay us instead of us having to pay the media? Did Bob ever get in touch with him?
Our resident Englishmen seem to have run him off before he could share his splendid ideas with us. Pity.
#14 by H.Avenger on 01/01/2012 - 10:59 am
Coniglio,
I wrote extensively about this. And Calvert wrote quite a bit on this blog a while back. He has a farm and family to take of and no time to help. To pull off his media tricks….he would probably have to pull them off himself and it is not a 5 minute endeavor. He did not want to share the ideas in an open forum. And he does not have the free time right now. But I have an invite to call him whenever I am in his part of the woods. He said we could sit down and talk. I have no idea when that will happen. Because I have no idea when I will be there.
I have been doing a lot for white rabbit radio in prep for advertising. And may call him to pick his brain about some things. However, ALTNews is different animal insomuch as how they approach things like booking shows or pitching shows or ads. They are very unconventional. I will wait and see how this goes over the next month.
Calvert is very approachable tho. I talked with him several times via PM. And would not hesitate to call him if and when I have something to pick his brain on. But when it comes to his tricks. As stated many times……he would probably have to be the one to pull them off.
And I do not recall anyone running him off from here. Stormfront banned him. Bugs did not. He can freely post here.
#15 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/01/2012 - 11:14 am
Horus, if I’d seen your comment, I wouldn’t have bothered posting mine one minute later. You and Calvert should work together well since you’re at his level. I could see just from his posts on SF that he’s extremely bright and has immense talent, and he’s posted that he’s totally taken with Bob’s stuff and is using it.
#16 by Coniglio Bianco on 01/01/2012 - 1:09 pm
As I recall he didn’t get a very warm reception here either. Most people are too closed minded and either don’t understand what he is talking about or don’t have the patience to see things through to the point where they find out where he is going with his ideas which in my opinion could give us a much needed breakthrough in terms of exposure. I was one of the ones who encouraged him to come over here and explain his strategy to us but no one was particularly interested in what he had to say and so the discussion never got into specifics. What Calvert was hoping is that one of us would see the value in his approach and volunteer to put in the time and effort to make it happen.
#17 by H.Avenger on 01/01/2012 - 2:05 pm
Coniglio,
I don’t recall anyone giving him a poor reception. There are plenty of ideas that will give us breakthroughs. Some have already been implemented. Some will work and some won’t. And I don’t recall anyone being disinterested in what he had to say. Maybe I am wrong.
“What Calvert was hoping is that one of us would see the value in his approach and volunteer to put in the time and effort to make it happen.”
Fantastic. Take the time and volunteer. But as I discussed openly and privately. Don’t be discouraged if he is the only one that can make certain elements of his ideas work. You always have to adjust things. And usually someone like Calvert is going to be only one with enough experience to do the adjusting.
#18 by timeforfreedom on 01/01/2012 - 6:40 am
HAS KELSO USED OR POSTED ANY MANTRA-BASED POINTS OR COMMENTS TO HIS SITE OR SHOW. I MEAN ALL THAT HE HAS TO DO IS RECITE THE MANTRA ON HIS SHOW EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE………HAS HE?????? HAS HE DONE SO AS OFTEN AS TRUCK ROY….FOR FREE?????? I DON’T HEAR TRUCK ROY JUST SITTING THERE RECITING HOURS OF SOMEONE ELSE’S MAGAZINE ON HIS SHOW…LIKE THAT PATHETIC INSTAURATION MAG THAT MR. KELSO KEEPS ON FLOGGING. I’M NOT SENDING YOUR FRIEND JAMIE KELSO ANY GODDAMNED FUCKING MONEY…AND I’M NOT SPENDING ANYMORE OF MY TIME LISTENING TO HORUS BECAUSE OF HIS AFFILIATION WITH YOU AND VOR’S MR. KELSO AND THAT’S IT. I THOUGHT YOU WERE DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER WHITE MONEY MOVEMENT CHARACTERS BUT YOU CLEARLY ARE NOT!!!!!!
I SPEND EVERY DAY RECITING MANTRA POINTS ON A PARTICULAR YOUTUBE DISCUSSION DESTROYING ANTI-WHITES AND I DO IT FOR FREE..YOU PEOPLE DON’T HAVE TO SEND ME ANY MONEY. WE DON’T NEED A POLITICAL PARTY TO DO OUR WORK FOR US. BY THE TIME THAT A POLITICAL PARTY STARTS RECITING MANTRA POINTS IN THEIR SPEECHES AND COMMENTS, WE WILL HAVE ALREADY WON THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF WHITE PEOPLE. THIS REQUIRES THAT THOSE OF US SO INCLINED GET OUT THERE AT ALL LEVELS AND RECITE MANTRA POINTS REPEATEDLY SO TO DESTROY THE ANTI-WHITES AROUND US. KELSO AND HIS BAND OF A3P COHORTS ARE WORTHLESS TO US UNTIL WE HAVE WHITE PEOPLE CONVINCED OF EVERY POINT AND INSIGHT CONTAINED WITHIN THE MANTRA AS STATED BY YOU BOB.
BUT BY THAT TIME WE WON’T HAVE TO ASK ANYONE OF OUR WHITE BROTHERS AND SISTERS FOR MONEY, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE PARTIES OPENLY AND WILLING TO RECITE MANTRA POINT AFTER MANTRA POINT. BOB….JUST STAY ON POINT AND FORGET THE POLITICAL PARTIES FOR NOW. WE HAVE MORE IMPORTANT WORK TO DO. WE DON’T NEED YOU BEGGING FOR MONEY TO FINANCE POLITICAL PARTES AND THEIR PROMISES TO TAKE OUR MESSAGE PUBLIC. OUR MESSAGE IS ALREADY THERE BOB AND IT’S GETTING LOUDER NO THANKS TO GUYS LIKE KELSO AND THE OTHER CHARACTERS IN THE A3P AND VOICR OF REASON RADIO.
#19 by H.Avenger on 01/01/2012 - 11:05 am
Time,
You do a great job on message. No one can operate without resources. Bob funds his own site and always will. I fund White Rabbit Radio. And I will always be on the line for the costs. I have an agenda in raising funds since day one. The advertising we are running starting this week…..costs money. Serious money. Also running political ads on the Mantra will also cost money. Get your priorities straight. Before you start preaching your message of communist purity in regards to dissidents being in rags and unable to operate effectively.
Our enemy spent gazillions trying to kill us. Now if anyone does not want or have the resources to participate….by all means DON’T participate. Did you ever hear our enemy cry about someone raising money for AntiWhite causes? NO. You will never hear them cry about dissident purity through poverty. That is insane. And our enemy never begs for money. Those Pink Rabbits with the dough…..jump out and throw it at any endeavor that shows promise. (especially when it comes to WhiteGeNOcide). Did Soros bitch about giving Noel Ignatiev money? lulz
Dissidents come around to a consistent message in their own time and their own way. ProWhite dissidents are no different than any other. They are not used to using someone elses message. But when they do come and try to help. Always let them help in some way. Kelso is an organizer and a good one at that. He has went out of his way and offered to help Bob achieve his goal and get the Mantra more air time via political ads. Lets let him help.
Everyone has something to contribute in their own unique way. Kelso is no different. So lets wait and see how it goes
#20 by Bob on 01/01/2012 - 9:59 am
Thanks, Linda. With my attention deficit I have an AWFUL time with names — my father was the world’s top consultant for brick making,and he was colorblind, I was a pro in politics and am name blind — but now I will not have to call you “Mrs. Kelso” all the time.
It’s Linda. Take that down.
#21 by Sigrid on 01/01/2012 - 12:26 pm
Thanks, Bob. Yes, it’s Linda and, of course, any questions can be brought to Bob or my attention wherein I can relay them to Jamie.
Again, it’s easier to contact me on WNN as I’m there more frequently or to e-mail me at the address farther above on a previous post.
This money ISN’T FOR Kelso himself; it is to run ads. It is not to fund radio shows or websites.
#22 by Bob on 01/01/2012 - 10:07 am
Genseric, this is the first time I have MENTIONED money here so I am nervous about it.
I mailed a hundred dollars and put MANTRA on the envelop and on the check and as Alice says, let’s hold on for now until they are able to PRODUCE a MANTRA ad with that.
Then we’ll discuss the next step you suggest.
#23 by Genseric on 01/02/2012 - 11:12 am
Bob,
Will do.
I have the HTML code saved, loaded and ready for posting at WNN, SF, and a few others.
@Linda
Also, my geographical location affords me a certain neighbor-like level of availability myself. At least for you, since I am right next door. You two are MORE than welcome to contact me 24/7/365 at europeanamericans@gmail.com . Once Bob says so, I will post the aforementioned solicitation anywhere and everywhere I can think of which would funnel in money to produce Mantra ads. I can tell you from personal experience, the “pay to play” crowd is DYING to see some real-World results. That’s where we come in. And this program will do just that. Next, I will even produce a video, or set of videos, with a “call-to-action” for that explicit purpose.
We’ve got some talented folks here at BUGS. This could cascade rather rapidly (Rabbitly). I am also thinking of leveraging the South Africa project as I am the coordinator for my state.
http://www.southafricaproject.info/
#24 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/01/2012 - 11:00 am
Coniglio:
Calvert is a hard person to deal with. Among his exceptional abilities is an uncanny capacity to make people want to strangle him. I’m pretty sure I was the one who both urged him most strongly to hook up with Bob, and also ended up being the most unpleasant to him (I’m not English) after he’d arrived here and strutted his stuff for awhile. He gave good general advice, but no specifics on how to implement it, and was derisive of us for not having the ability to implement his advice ourselves. At least that’s the way I saw it.
I apologized to him for the things I said to him, and I hope he returns. But keep in mind that the hard-to-work-withness he has isn’t the kind that changes.
————
Ah, timeforfreedom, what a gorgeous rant!! Bravo!! (Seriously! And I wouldn’t call it gorgeous if I didn’t think the content was worth being said and worth being considered, even though at first reading I disagree with it)
#25 by H.Avenger on 01/01/2012 - 12:04 pm
HD,
Timeforfreedom has spent a lot of hours mastering the Mantra. He has spent countless hours using it. I remember back when he was a wee little white rabbit just starting. He feels this is his job to do since he is white. He expects nothing from it except results. But what he has to understand is that he is donating a very expensive resource that we need …..TIME. Some others may not have the equivalent in time but some other resource. Whether it be connections or ideas or just plain ole money.
#26 by meawhiterabbit on 01/01/2012 - 12:26 pm
ahhhh cool thanks for clarifying H. Well thats a different story. Yep if Bob (or Horus) can set up a paypal for us non US guys i am more than willing to help out
#27 by ANOTHERWHITERABBIT on 01/01/2012 - 11:41 am
what is ten bucks as Horus puts it a cup of coffee that all them self hating white animal baby boomers get daily please be a little more detailed how this should be sent and where i post the mantra when i do send it
#28 by ANOTHERWHITERABBIT on 01/01/2012 - 11:56 am
Oh and by the way how dare anyone critisize bob or horus for asking for a little dough. Im sure it cost some money to keep their sites up and the time they have given to thier sites is rediculous. all those antiwhites you have crushed using thier tactics have worked thats worth well more then 10 bucks. and if you were to not put the cart in front of the horse you would see bob put his money up first and said lets see where this goes. He didn’t ask for us to blindlessly through our money at something. No he put his own money up front. I don’t think its much to ask for a collective offering cup passed around so that the mantra we all use in love can get some real air time.
#29 by meawhiterabbit on 01/01/2012 - 11:59 am
am i missing something. A pro White wants Bob to PAY for a mantra ad on his podcast/radio show? Jeez is the guy getting so much advertising it will cost HIM to run Bobs ad for free and lose an advert or two or is he trying to make a buck of the back of a good cause?
#30 by Sigrid on 01/01/2012 - 12:28 pm
My husband isn’t making money by running ads for Bob, lol. But I understand your concern. Ads cost money. Bob inquired from Jamie himself, not the other way around, about funding ads.
#31 by meawhiterabbit on 01/01/2012 - 12:46 pm
Thanks for clarifying!
#32 by H.Avenger on 01/01/2012 - 12:07 pm
meawhiterabbit,
No, Bob is paying to run ads during this campaign season on mainstream media venues…..he is not paying to run them on Kelsos show.
#33 by Bob on 01/01/2012 - 1:08 pm
Timeforfreedom wanted to raise hell and he has earned the right to do so.
Kelso has taken a LOT worse and I doubt Linda is a shrinking violet either.
#34 by timeforfreedom on 01/01/2012 - 2:18 pm
You folks are smart but you have missed the point here. I would donate money to this fellow if he had spent any amount of time making Mantra points on his show. He has had ths show going for about two years if I’m not mistaken. Maybe a little less than that. I used to listen to it all the time and I have NEVER heard him make any reference to anything even remotely associated with a specific Mantra argument or insight. Now, he is a smart guy too and I respect a guy who can start his own show and do what he has, but because of the specific path that he has chosen in respect to arguing for White people I’m not the least bit interested in alligning myself with him. I’m sure he is a great guy…but in a fight I would rather have someone like Truck Roy or one of the other dissidents on this board on my side. The Mantra and whole genocide angle get the job done in any discussion on my race, the White race, and if you can’t see that and apply it on your own radio show or your own political party, don’t come calling for money from my kind of White dissident. I’m not against donating, but I am against giving money to people or venues that don’t have a commitment to my way of Mantra thinking. Can’t this fellow give at least ONE free ad to our cause???? I would. He has his own show. The Voice of Reason network could do a lot for our cause.
Now, if you folks will excuse me, I have to get back to Youtube to continue beating crap out of the ‘friendly neighborhood’ anti-White scum just like I do everyday.
Keep up the great work Bob, Horus, and company.
#35 by Peter Whiterabbit on 01/01/2012 - 5:55 pm
time, we are not giving money to Kelso to advertise on his radio show. We are giving money to Kelso so that he can buy advertizing time for an extremely inexpensive rate on the mainstream media. The advertisement will ONLY be the mantra. In order to get the low rate, we need to have a registered candidate say, “I approve this message.” Unless you know of a candidate outside of A3P and a person like Kelso who is willing to do the same, you are missing the point.
Keep in mind that Don Black wouldn’t use the mantra for years but now his and Derek’s radio show is almost exclusively on message. If this media advertising generates buzz about the mantra, pro-whites will be falling over themselves to be on message.
Keep beating anti-Whites senseless.
#36 by Byron on 01/01/2012 - 9:36 pm
Well, again, when I was doing what you guys say you want to do (expose tens of millions of folks to your pro-White message) I had a staff taking care of everything (making shirts, packing orders, coordinating CD production, webmastering, graphical art, etc…) leaving me to conduct media operations full time. I currently operate the largest pro-White record label and t-shirt shop in the country, and I have no staff. I relocated to a very rural area where we also have two farms and home school our five children. As I have said repeatedly, my plate is full.
I don’t have “splendid ideas” about what may or may not work, I have experience doing it.
In any case, I know I said that it was better to get the media to pay you instead of the other way around, and I’ve mentioned previously how myself and others have done it, but if you guys think buying small campaign ads will accomplish anything, then I hope you succeed. I have sent a check for $100 to James Kelso at the address mentioned by Bob above and included a note that it was for Mantra campaign advertising.
#37 by The Seeker of Truth on 01/01/2012 - 11:47 pm
I thought that Bob mentioned in an earlier diatribe that a radio spot is as little as ten bucks as long as it is for a candidate. Will his and Byron’s $200 get the mantra 20 spots 10 spots or what?
I am amazed at the pro-Whites that refuse to get on message. I was at the seminar and listened to David Duke talk for an hour giving his shtick and then try to hijack the question and answer period, and since then he has announced an “epiphany” on the Derek Black show. Which of course is the same old BS. The same goes for every other speaker there. That is except for Truck Roy, Derek, Horus and to a lesser extent Don. Is it ego stroking? Anyway I suggest that we pick out a talkshow that has a call in base and swarm them. Then it would be possible to use the audios from their archives on youtube repurposed to our needs. In my area there are first amendment fridays and the like, but none of the hosts consistently archive their shows. Does anyone have any suggestions or am I pissing in the wind?
#38 by OldBlighty on 01/02/2012 - 12:34 am
“Is it ego stroking?”
Could be habit, their living depends on what they have always talked about, or they honestly believe they are right and are terrified the movement will forget.
I remember back when I was a Jewser, I got creeped out, when anyone in Pro White forums posted quotes by Jews that criticized Israel, because I suspected they were trying to hijack the Pro White movement. Even now, I look at that Brother Nathaniel character and wonder what the heck he is up to. lol
So try and remember when you thought the same way as them and you might understand them better.
“Then it would be possible to use the audios from their archives on youtube repurposed to our needs”
I think it is a good idea. However I don’t know what the copyright rules would be in that case.
#39 by shari on 01/02/2012 - 9:40 am
Make that $200 and $40, I sent last Saturday. I didn’t know if it would help, but I thought it wasn’t going to hurt. I don’t know what will be a big boost. I’m just in favor of big boosts.
#40 by Simmons on 01/02/2012 - 10:17 am
IMO politely asking the holdouts why they won’t use the Mantra or Mantra logic in their rhetoric is the most effective way to influence other strong White minds.
Eg; Mr. Kelso may I ask why you haven’t used Bob’s Mantra or Mantra logic in your broadcasts or writings?
Was that nice enough?
#41 by Sigrid on 01/02/2012 - 2:20 pm
Hi Simmons,
You might try calling Jamie at 561/351-4424 or PM’ing him on WNN. Remember that Bob asked Jamie re: the ads, not the other way around.
In any event, I can’t answer for him. Jamie and Bob have been friends for years. Jamie is pro-mantra. Why people feel otherwise is beyond me.
And thanks for all of the responses! 🙂
#42 by The Seeker of Truth on 01/02/2012 - 8:47 pm
Sigrid the reason people think that is because he never uses it. If you would read the comments you would see that!
#43 by OldBlighty on 01/02/2012 - 9:32 pm
He had a little go at it here.
Jamie Kelso at CPAC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX8ZtykZLTk
At the time I remember thinking, all he needs is some practice in the Swarm and he could tear those kids programmed responses, to ribbons.
#44 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/03/2012 - 12:49 am
Re Jamie Kelso and the Mantra: a person can’t just hear the Mantra one day and then start using it the next. Using it is a skill acquired by exposure to people already using it. I’m only guessing that Derek Black got mantratized before Don did, and Don picked it up from Derek. Jamie Kelso probably hasn’t had the same opportunity for exposure yet that Don did and is so busy he hasn’t made the opportunity.
I just wanted to toss that in the pudding.
@ Old Blighty: Right, he just needs some practice!
#45 by Sigrid on 01/03/2012 - 6:27 am
I know that he’s used it before. He’s been on the radio for years upon years and has attended WN/nationalist events with and without Bob present. He’s also been “in” the cause and for the cause a number of years. He has used it, but again, that’s actually not the point here, is it? The point of Bob calling Jamie at home (I was here, I heard a bit of the conversation) is what we should actually be discussing —- not how many thousands of times Jamie has or has not used the mantra.
Since I’m married to him, I’ve also heard him discuss it, too.
I do hope this isn’t contest of who uses the mantra the most. Bob requested that Jamie help get the mantra onto political campaign ads. That’s what this whole thing is about. And yes, I’ve read the comments, The Seeker of Truth. I don’t necessarily have time to come onto this blog as much as I’d like (busy with kids, my own website, A3P, etc), which is why I’ve requested others, if they want to, to contact me elsewhere. It’s usually easier to get in touch with me first as Jamie works full time and devotes most of his free time to the cause.
My information is further up top. Jamie and I would love to help get those ads up. The mantra and political campaign ads are the issue here and that is what should be kept on topic; however, I am unable, unfortunately, to check this blog daily, so please keep in touch with Jamie and I so we can get something going.
Good day to you all and I hope you have a great new year!
#46 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/03/2012 - 10:59 am
Sigrid, thanks for the time you’ve spent on our thread. We are fanatics here at bugs, so please don’t take too hard anything that has been said!
Jamie was one of my first experiences of pro-White radio, and before that Instauration was an important revelation to me (since I had the usual liberal prejudices) of how much intelligence and humor could be found in the pro-White movement. So I’ve been very happy that Jamie has been doing all the work of putting that magnificent publication online. That will be another piece of our culture preserved.
#47 by Simmons on 01/03/2012 - 11:18 am
I could not be less offensive in my question if I tried when I asked Mr. Kelso why he had not used the Mantra.
Now imagine how an anti-White feels when they are drummed over the head with the Mantra?
#48 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/03/2012 - 12:02 pm
@ OldBlighty: Yes, I remember in that CPAC video how defensive and unarmed Jamie seemed.
It’s very true that if Jamie were mantratized like Derek Black is, then like Derek he would now be successfully ON THE ATTACK, using pro-White terminology to launch OUR charges against the anti-Whites, instead of helping anti-Whites drive home their own terminology by repeating their phrases while futilely DEFENDING against their silly charges against US!
Jamie would be having the same experiences Derek recounted at the Seminar, of now finally HAVING SUCCESS with the audiences when confronting anti-Whites!
Jamie, get on board AND KICK BUTT!!
Since I PM’ed my last post to Linda, I’ll PM her this one also.
#49 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/03/2012 - 12:45 pm
I’m off topic now, but my God, that CPAC video that Old Blighty linked…I had watched it months ago before becoming a bugster, and I just watched it again…those people arguing with jamie are CONSERVATIVES? Baloney!! They are just a bunch of vile anti-Whites! They repeat EXACTLY the same brainwashed White Genocidal garbage that the left does! Exactly! The only difference between them and the left is that they wear superior smirks and the left favors scowls, glowers, and contorted expressions of rage and hate!
Jamie, Jamie, Jamie…my heart ached for you, taking off your buttons to appease those poor, vile, little lost anti-White lambs. They will NOT respond to a little bo peep treatment. I’m sorry to say it, but you did more harm than good, because by your defensive apologetic tone and by taking off your button you played out their role for you of the shamed white “racist.”
It would never occur to a bugster to take off a button at the request of an anti-White, because we have been deprogrammed from feeling and acting the way the anti-Whites have set for us, and have reprogrammed ourselves to BE ON THE ATTACK, LEVELING THE SINGLE FUNDAMENTAL CHARGE OF WHITE GENOCIDE THAT EASILY SUBSUMES ALL OTHER PRO-WHITE MESSAGES, AND USING WEAPONS THAT WORK!