Every time I read comments it frustrates me that even BUGSERS seldom get the point I am making and wander off into comparisons and so forth. But comments is YOUR section, not mine.
For example I hate Yuppie trends. One thing a yuppie automatically does is show she’s a Soccer Mom. They then toss off the usual quote about how other Americans don’t like soccer because it is “diverse.”
Not one commenter considered this when I wrote, repeatedly, that soccer , hockey, basketball and La Crosse, plus about every other game outside the US and Britain, are the same game.
This hits them where they aren’t ready.
Suddenly they’re not being sophisticated the way Mommy Professor said soccer was.
But it will be long, cold time in the Eighth Circle of Hell before anybody but me notices it.
But, like the Mantra, my articles work in the long run on those who can hear me.
Many a person is astonished about how well the Mantra works in PRACTICE. So I wrote piece explaining that anti-whites are vulnerable because they are protected from all EFFECTIVE disagreement, which makes them suckers when the real thing comes along.
The piece was about the interviews with former slaves in the 1930s WPA Writers’ Project. They can’t deal with anyone bringing up the only example of actual slaves’ opinion of their masters, because it is not repeated, much like the 1948 Red Cross report which demolished the later Six Million Law.
The article was denounced as being anti-slavery.
This surely demonstrates that it’s not just anti-whites the anti-white suppression has taken out of the real world. That is what we refer here to as Stormfront Thinking, where the pro-white masses have exactly the media-type reaction to whatever is said that the anti-whites do.
Most people, including BUGSERS, cannot see this new perspective. But in BUGS SWARM I notice that, after reading a lot of my articles and getting out there in the fight, my approach gets reproduced, the real one.
#1 by Dave on 01/23/2012 - 10:05 am
Perspective comes from actual confrontations. If the result of actual confrontation is to narrow your perspective, you are running away. Also, don’t let the excuse of organizing other whites keep you from confrontations with anti-whites. You don’t need “backup” to do this. Riding alone is just fine.
#2 by Simmons on 01/23/2012 - 12:03 pm
IMO the Bob rule, why is this information produced, works with my problem solving.
In the above post Bob mentions a soccer mom chiming in with the diversity nonsense. So I ask myself why she would produce such drivel.
And for what it is worth I can conclude that Suzy Soccer Mom is just participating in the White Guilt chain letter.
Needless to say the chain letter day is about over.
The internet Mantra day is here.
#3 by OldBlighty on 01/23/2012 - 4:18 pm
“And for what it is worth I can conclude that Suzy Soccer Mom is just participating in the White Guilt chain letter.”
I first heard of American Soccer Moms, back in the 1990s, yet this is the first time I learned they were PC Yuppies.
So now I’m thinking their particular brand of White Guilt, has little to do with actual guilt, it is about social climbing.
#4 by ANOTHERWHITERABBIT on 01/23/2012 - 12:12 pm
I dont even have an account on stormfront besided the point I really hate to get off topic but i have been busy the last few weeks and hurting I noticed bob saying something about arthritis and a bath and wanted to make a suggestion as well that you might find helpful I got a blown out l4 l5 disc and yes i use pain killers but to reduce the amount of pills i take so i still have a brain and not drooling on myself. I use Tiger Balm extra streangth you can find it at most pharmacy or even a piggly wiggly has them sometimes just toss one in your buggy next time you go but where black it will stain your shirts
#5 by Genseric on 01/23/2012 - 12:16 pm
“This surely demonstrates that it’s not just anti-whites the anti-white suppression has taken out of the real world. That is what we refer here to as Stormfront Thinking, where the pro-white masses have exactly the media-type reaction to whatever is said that the anti-whites do.”
It is tempting, if not altogether inevitable, for a BUGSter to outgrow and actually LEAVE N&J. Even if they have given us our own field office(s).
I call it the Jared Taylor Effect.
As another BUGSter so astutely put it, “The Jared Taylors of the World will begin talking about White geNOcide once the masses start talking about it. Once we MAKE them.” It is counter intuitive.
Never underestimate the value and efficacy of a solid, battle-hardened TEAM with a consistent message.
#6 by Genseric on 01/23/2012 - 12:56 pm
They are REACTIONARIES.
#7 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/23/2012 - 6:58 pm
Bob, I’m frustrated too that there’s so much of what you say that I don’t understand.
Are the things you’re trying to teach us things that simply can’t be taught by the sort of linear explanations full of detail and concrete examples and other explicatory material to which my linear engineering-schooled brain is accustomed? I’ve never been in a situation before where I was expected to learn things that seem to me posed almost as riddles, or parables, or (to my mind) as prose poems.
I’ve never been in a situation before where I couldn’t reach understanding with enough thought and study, but now I’m in a situation where there seems to be no detailed explicatory material to study, at least none produced by the head guy!
I realize that this post may reflect so many misapprehensions I’m not aware of that it may make you despair of ever transmitting your approach to average smart people.
I’m wondering if the attention thing you have makes it too painful to write long detailed explanations, or if the style you use is essential to transmitting understandings that you consider worthwhile.
#8 by Genseric on 01/23/2012 - 8:46 pm
“I’ve never been in a situation before where I couldn’t reach understanding with enough thought and study, but now I’m in a situation where there seems to be no detailed explicatory material to study, at least none produced by the head guy!” -HD
@HD
That’s because what Bob is coaching us on is PRACTICAL politics. It’s not Theory of 1101. It’s not Middle Eastern Politics 3011. It’s not a place to share your favorite book. It’s definitely NOT a place to post News and harp about The Jews. To me, BUGS is where real people work together to solve REAL problems. And they do it through ACTION; through DOING. This is largely why the Mantra and Bob’s approach are lost on the Stormfront Thinkers. The Jared Taylor Effect. The REACTIONARIES.
“Most people, including BUGSERS, cannot see this new perspective. But in BUGS SWARM I notice that, after reading a lot of my articles and getting out there in the fight, my approach gets reproduced, the real one.” – Bob
#9 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/23/2012 - 7:01 pm
Bob, I’ve been thinking about the Mantra (principally about the nature of the “race problem” it refers to) hard for maybe a week, and I think I understand it a lot better now than I did before. (I just focused on understanding the Mantra’s content, not its structure and why the Mantra works).
Here’s the brief summary and “exegesis” of the Mantra I arrived at. If I’m off target, I would love to be told in what way.
The “race problem” Bob Whitaker refers to in his Mantra turns out to be Whiteness. The antidote to the race problem is non-Whiteness.
Non-Whiteness is accomplished principally by the genocidal measure of flooding White countries with non-Whites and forcing Whites to assimilate with them.
Assuming for the moment that that first sentence is correct, I have a long written explanation of why I think it’s correct, and I wouldn’t expect many people to understand my first sentence, or to be able to think their way to it (well, in less than a week), without the explanation!
#10 by Genseric on 01/23/2012 - 8:59 pm
In a nutshell, the solution (antidote) to the RACE problem is NO MORE WHITE CHILDREN; White geNOcide.
I can’t even attempt to count how many anti-whites have PROVED this to me. They say they are the Humanitarian Elite and Guardians of The Human Race. They say their Morality and DIEversity will help solve this RACE problem, yet only White children feel the effects. They say they are the Anti-racist Intelligentsia of Tomorrow TODAY while they fling open the gates of EVERY White country to MILLIONS of third worlders. But, what they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist IS a code-word for anti-white.
#11 by BGLass on 01/23/2012 - 8:16 pm
So now I’m thinking their particular brand of White Guilt, has little to do with actual guilt, it is about social climbing….”
—Why making the usual multi-cult platitudes a signifier of lower classiness does them in. …a signifier of old media. a signifier of t.v. mentality… a signifier of not being traveled enough, or powerful enough, to simply claim who you really are…
it’s like illustrating to republicans they are really fairly-well Trotskyite-trained, not to mention walking contradictions.
multi-cult is really a lower middle class phenomenon, imo— it hit exactly what Gramsci said it should hit… the cultural people… but that doesn’t mean upper class art collectors, but really mostly those in the socializing professions, who train and create useful people, what the status quo needs (in terms of the kind of human subject the system needs to operate itself)—the values producers–media, pr, academic, arts, etc. the school teachers, the therapists, the school nurses, etc.
#12 by Coniglio Bianco on 01/23/2012 - 9:53 pm
‘Harumphty Dumpty’
There is no ‘race’ problem the ‘race problem’ is one that is implied by the anti-Whites as a means to an end. They imply that there is a ‘problem’ so they can imply a solution to that problem which is getting rid of us. White genocide is the final solution to the ‘White problem’.
#13 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/23/2012 - 11:27 pm
I realized that saying “race problem” out of its context in the Mantra (“Everybody says there is this RACE problem”) might seem to affirm the existence of a race problem. Thanks for making it clear that that isn’t what the Mantra or any commentary intends.
Thanks everyone for the responses…I’m very interested.
#14 by herrMajor on 01/23/2012 - 10:04 pm
@HD
Hehe, I’m your opposite, I think easily in parables and it’s difficult for long logic-linear thoght.
But I get what Bob is saying and it’s a point that I just discovered myself.
You can’t teach an old dog new tricks.
I (or any other BUGSTER) really can NEVER change the minds of the Stormfront types. They have only known the outsider’s view in, and never really saw how the ‘powers that be’ manipulate them into their perfect punching bag.
The problem is, we as BUGSTERS FIGHT BACK.
They don’t, and no matter how many new and innovative ideas herrmajor has in posting the mantra, ONLY BOB’S APROACH HAS BEEN SWARM TESTED TO W-O-R-K.
Thanks for clearing it up bob. 😀
–edit–
Tis a parable sire.
There are hundreds of little frogs ina pond outside of my home, its about 15’x20′, the frogs all ribbit together against the foxes outside, they never BITE. The sounds of the frogs is comforting, yet it will never scare the fox into not eating the frog’s tadpoles. So the fox barks back at them, making the frogs run away from their tadpoles then it is able to eat them. Except when the frogs BITE BACK, then no matter how many foxes there are, as long as they give the ribbit to BITE, the frogs tadpoles will survive and prosper.
#15 by RobRoy on 01/23/2012 - 10:57 pm
Harumphty Dumpty.
Bob is an old guy, sitting on a porch, talking. Listen to what he says, use what you can and forget what you can’t. Don’t sit there worrying because you don’t GET every point. Once you GET the Mantra the important thing is staying on message.
#16 by Gavin on 01/23/2012 - 11:34 pm
Earlier today while I was on a discussion board a topic came up about some American community activists in one American state who were taking out a big emphasis on slavery in the history course in children’s schools.
Of course the anti-Whites were furious.
Not only did I point out the Writer’s project interviews and the conclusion. I also pointed out that the only reason they were objecting so loudly was because it will make it harder for them to raise the next generation of self-hating White liberals. After all if White kids aren’t indoctrinated with racial self-hatred, how are you going to get them to accept their own genocide?
I priased the activists for getting rid of the racial demonization and anti-White bias in the schools.
Oh boy did that get them upset. One anti-White was so angry that they posted anti-tea party (aka anti-White, everyone knows they are only attacking the tea party because it’s participants are White) images for over 3 hours.
It’s really great to expose the anti-Whites for what they are.
#17 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/24/2012 - 1:37 am
During the years I posted heavily on mainstream knoxnews.com, I posted excerpts and links for those WPA slave interviews, and I don’t believe I ever got a single response to anything I posted about them, except maybe a slight lull in the vituperation coming my way.
For as long as I can recall, I’ve been delighted when presented with something that is apparently factual and contradicts how I believe the world to be. I remember my delighted amazement, back when I was an ordinary lefty, when I received from a correspondent a thick scholarly-appearing article from the IHR Review on a detail of the Holocaust® that I couldn’t find any information on elsewhere, and I realized that, whether what I was holding in my hand was just cunning bs or not, my absolute belief that “Holocaust deniers” were moronic idiots too dumb to read a book was shattered! And I couldn’t understand why my lefty friends didn’t feel the same pleasure (except for one Jewish friend, oddly!) when I shared this amazing discovery!
Of course I quickly discovered that when the life of the mind takes a turn off the road that one’s physical life has been traveling on, you’re in for a lot of bad road.
#18 by Genseric on 01/24/2012 - 3:30 am
Outgrowing Groupthink
Fuck the Uppah Clahss and their Lowah Clahss slaves. The truth is that our schools only teach our children how to obey orders. They are conditioned NOT to think for themselves. They graduate from high schools thinking as one collective Mommy Professor robot.
Someone once said “The best way and the easy way are NEVER the same way.” The best way is to help our brothers and sisters think for THEMSELVES.
#19 by ohgolly on 01/24/2012 - 3:30 am
So much of what I read here is unintelligible. When he says that the article was denounced as being anti-slavery, surely he meant to say that it was denounced as being pro-slavery, no?
#20 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/24/2012 - 10:40 am
That line confused me too, but I’m pretty sure Bob did mean “anti-slavery”. I went back and checked his two original posts on the WPA slave interviews
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2012/01/13/you-cant-explain-what-you-ignore-part-i/
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2012/01/14/you-cant-explain-what-you-ignore-part-ii/
In the first one, Bob included these comments:
“Slavery had ended say 75 years before this study was made. There were very few blacks who were actually slaves by then, and I would bet good money that far more than half of those interviewed were lying. But every one of the hundreds of interviewees had known a lot of people who had been actual slaves, and they probably repeated what they had been told…
First of all, the old slaves were talking about a time when they were young With 1930 medicine, even at its best, old age was MUCH worse then than it is now.
Also, most of the children in that slave group probably didn’t know what slavery WAS…Slavery is not what they remembered, so what DID they remember?
A child remembers being energetic and healthy, but he also remembers HOME.”
One poster commented that these remarks by Bob were similar to what a liberal would say to discredit the interviews as providing any reliable information about slavery. (But a careful reading, including the third sentence I quoted above, shows that wasn’t Bob’s intention IMO).
Anyway, the post by the commenter is what Bob is referring to in his present post when he says that what he wrote was denounced as being anti-slavery.
ohgolly, I have a low threshold of frustration and irritation, and a lot of Bob’s writing drives me nuts!
BUT: I PROMISE you that the frustration will be WORTH IT! I’ve gotten what I could get, and now I’m walking around a whole lot smarter than I was before! Seeing the world in a much more intelligible way!
I’ve not found confusing at all Bob’s wonderful audios, which I highly recommend (click on the porch talk tab above):
http://www.whitakeronline.org/townhall.htm
And I don’t recall any moments of frustration while reading his wonderful book, “Why Johnny Can’t Think,” though there may have been a few.
Listening to those audios (and second time through is as rewarding as the first), and reading that book have made me about 10 IQ points smarter!
#21 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/24/2012 - 11:32 am
ohgolly, there’s probably several reasons Bob’s writings can be difficult, but one is that he’s considerably smarter than most of us….actually smarter than all of us by a good shot, I’m pretty confident. There’s often levels of nuance and irony in what he writes that aren’t immediately apparent.
Consider the phrase “denounced as being anti-slavery.” When I first went back and figured out what Bob meant by that, I thought it a clumsy way to say what he was saying.
But now that you caused me to deal with the phrase a second time, I’ve suddenly seen how perfectly worded it is, and I love it!
Bob was being taken to task (perhaps) for making remarks that seemed to imply that he agreed with liberals that slavery could be harsh and unpleasant and not altogether a good thing. Ha ha! Bob’s wording captures perfectly the absurdity of being “denounced as being anti-slavery.”
As older bugsters have advised me and I’ve found to be true, it pays to do Bob more than just once!
#22 by Gavin on 01/24/2012 - 12:04 pm
After listening to the Untrained eye and reading Bob’s blog, it is obvious to me that so much of what Bob is communicating is lost when you go from verbal to written media.
His speaking style has a way of communicating exactly what the point is in a way that makes it impossible to miss, this is less effective in the written medium.
I have found that it helps to listen to the untrained eye and then read the article in Bob’s voice (not literally).
If there are others out there finding this to be an issue would you find it helpful if I or another BUGSTER produced some audio files illustrating the points Bob is making?
I’m planning on doing this just for my own benefit and if I can do it well and there is an interest I could post them.
#23 by Harumphty Dumpty on 01/24/2012 - 1:02 pm
Ha ha! That’s a great idea Gavin, and I’d definitely like to listen to them! Maybe others of us will be inspired to try their hand at that, and we can have a contest for best Bob impersonator!
In the meantime, I’ll try your other fine idea,
“I have found that it helps to listen to the untrained eye and then read the article in Bob’s voice (not literally).”
I’m not sure I’ll know where to place the emphases, intonations, etc. that Bob has when he speaks, until I already understand his meaning, but possibly my subconscious or the rhythm that naturally accompanies the words will get the job done.
It’s so true that the way he uses his voice makes it clear. It occurs to me now that if I hadn’t listened to most of his audios before reading “Why Johnny Can’t Think,” possibly I would have had some confusions in the book.
The audios are definitely the place anyone should begin IMO!
#24 by BGLass on 01/24/2012 - 8:06 am
Fuck the Uppah Clahss and their Lowah Clahss slaves. The truth is that our schools only teach our children how to obey orders. They are conditioned NOT to think for themselves. They graduate from high schools thinking as one collective Mommy Professor robot….
some of them really can be taught to think again, to a point, imo. But striking at the heart of why they accepted the conditioning can help, also— fear is a main one.
The levels of fear people SHOULD feel (but do not) is quite amazing. There are reports that age-old foods (ilke eggs) are not good for us. Eat this, don’t eat that; plastic in the water, etc, etc. T.v. ms “news” is a saga of fear, and bio-reports, not to mention the real stories of –50 years ago, truly unthinkable– violence, and strange “militarization” (where “robberies” ceased and turned into “home invasion,” and so on.
There is the terror at the level of the event (the ‘invasions’ or astonishing brutality or latest “food scare”), but ALSO, the niggling feeling of an enemy— for who is ‘leading’ that would produce these scary stories and DO nothing? Produce them as if IT IS NORMAL? —So it’s a double-pronged fear. At level of content, and also production (who and why it is produced).
—and then shame (giving them “identity” injury, narcissistic injury, making them feel unwanted, less than, stupid, etc… (Many anti-white-whites are stunned to find that there are non-whites who disagree with them, and even hate the patronizing tone they take with their –the non-whites– peoples, but teachers convinced them that is not even a possible reality).
fear, shaming, invalidation of any statements of reality or real feelings, (denial);
Invalidation keeps trauma-based conditioning in place. If you listen to recently traumatized people, they will often repeat the story of the trauma, over and over— attempting to jolt themselves out a state of derealization. If they are invalidated, they remain in the trauma state. “you are not alone” is a curative message.
#25 by Genseric on 01/24/2012 - 12:21 pm
While all of that is insightful and noteworthy, much of what you wrote is about the MAINTENANCE side of Social Engineering and Operant Conditioning. Sadly it deals strictly with “adults.”
I am thinking more about the SUPPLY side. Forget the DEMAND for now as that can be created. Just look at the pig they put lipstick on. Did it not sell?
Where would or should we start if we want to TRULY reverse what has been done as rapidly as possible? Would we make the argument that starting with the masses of asses is the only way to fight the good fight; imposing our terminology at the brainwashed denizen level? Or would we say and see that it truly is simply futile? Should we not start with the children and subsequently academia? Vetting our own professors and school teachers? Completely UNDOING what they have done at the root level? Ripping out the weeds and planting the seeds of honor, courage, and pride (self worth) in and of our own? Is what we are doing aimed at achieving this in the long run?
Or do we challenge ourselves with the most difficult task of all? Do we endeavor to teach OUR children how to think for themselves again? Give their free will and the right to self determination back? What do we suppose they would choose? Where would we end up in 50 to 100 years? Is it at all possible to have that much faith in our people after what so many have DONE (or not done)?
Can we afford to foster our people?
#26 by The Seeker of Truth on 01/24/2012 - 8:06 pm
Bob, you know good and goddamn well you set us up to take a hit. I just happened to be the one to take the bait and get clobbered.
You intentionally meant that to sound anti-slavery and that is exactly how it sounded.
#27 by The Old Man of the Mountain on 01/25/2012 - 3:10 pm
The Loony Leftists need to be put on the spot and asked to explain how sports teams that are 100% black or 100% brown are “diverse” but a sports team that is 100% White is not diverse?
Diversity just means “fewer White Folks”.
#28 by Gavin on 01/25/2012 - 3:51 pm
I put them in this spot every day online with this exact logic. The best part is that in the places I post others are now starting to post the same logic. I have no idea how much influence activism on this level has but the tactics and logic are solid.