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Now or Never

Posted by Bob on April 26th, 2012 under Coaching Session

When I say “hippie,” I mean the word the media has developed and is in common usage.

Several actual ex-hippies have stated flatly that they were the real thing and they were NOT mindless Leftists.

It’s too late, gang, just like it’s too late for the Weakest Generation. When Pat Buchanan was desperately trying to be a non-racist in the late seventies on Crossfire, he state flatly that the reason America fought World War II was to open up Europe to third world immigration!

Pat tells ME that one single WWII vet made a SINGLE objection to that statement.

All my life I have watched paper-hats wander up to the mike and say that their generation fought and died in The War so that America would not have any immigration restrictions or it would be against segregation, and never did one single old rotting hulk make the slightest objection.

Like future anti-whites, old hippies have mustered up the courage to object here on BUGS, which is more than the Weakest Generation ever did, but it’s too LATE.

You should have had some balls back THEN.

When the Occupy Wall Street movement got started, it was all over the internet that what the media had stated calling “young people” were over half middle-aged. When there was no internet, the hippies were all “youths.”

If I could trust you with warnings and count on you not to dribble away into “tribunals,” Torchlight Parades,” and all the rest of the mentally retarded crap, this could be a good warning:

If you keep your head down while the bullets are flying, don’t expect anyone to take into account what you REALLY thought and didn’t SAY.

Instead of being IN HERE bitching to ME, those few ex-hippie objectors should have been out there, saying it to THEM.

  1. #1 by Dick_Whitman on 04/26/2012 - 6:29 am

    I feel as if this was written for me personally?

  2. #2 by Jason Here on 04/26/2012 - 6:48 am

    It’s something to ponder, carefully and prudently. Maybe baby steps are in order. Are getting close to a time when our views will suddenly become widespread? I’m still thinking it is some years away.

  3. #3 by Jason Here on 04/26/2012 - 9:23 am

    Need remedial help . A little off topic: I’m fascinated by PC Hypnosis and Trance – by what process is the “trance” ultimately broken? Is is basically the repetition that finally gets through?

    FYI, Jonathan Haidt has done work on liberals and conservatives, and he says there is a “veil of ignorance” around whatever a ‘moral tribe’ considers sacred. Things that may be pretty obvious but are almost invisible to the believers. Sounds like it dovetails nicely with some aspects of Trance. Oh, and in his book, he said that religion and politics are basically the same – they activate same brain regions.

    • #4 by Jason Here on 04/26/2012 - 2:02 pm

      I finally found some good old stuff here with the search function on Trance, etc. Great stuff, and good comments by Dave, by the way, about Amazing Kreskin.

      I have felt the same fear that PC people have felt too (fear of having career ruined, or being called a racist), but I think I’ve always admitted I was afraid. I find the real moral cowards are the ones that don’t want to admit to themselves they are moved by fear. I’ve always known I had a cowardly side :)

  4. #5 by Dave on 04/26/2012 - 9:38 am

    I look at it as an endless tempest, all these people investing their sincerity in truly believed nonsense.

    It is important to recognize that the Weakest Generation was not an outlier. They were given plenty of nonsense to invest their sincerity in and accordingly they invested. That meant there was no need to await pandemonium.

  5. #6 by Gavin on 04/26/2012 - 10:52 am

    Unrelated to the article but important.

    When I post something as a calm and rational explanation rather than going in guns blazing expecting to do battle with anti-Whites…I get a good reception.

    That’s how I work it now. Calm and cool.

  6. #7 by Dick_Whitman on 04/26/2012 - 4:59 pm

    “If you keep your head down while the bullets are flying, don’t expect anyone to take into account what you REALLY thought and didn’t SAY.” (Bob)

    This is the crux of this post I think? But I am terribly slow in my mental functions and ask that someone explain it to me in different words?

  7. #8 by beefcake on 04/26/2012 - 6:04 pm

    I have made a podcast that will be out in a few days over at the about not saying things that sounds Scary, as we need to keep the moral highground in front of the
    Audience, and even IF you feel that what Bob has suggested for keeping our Race saved, isn’t something you agree with, we still cannot be saying scary sounding stuff that make us look like Totalitarian Tyrants in waiting ourselves.

    That in front of an Audience we are trying to wake up to White Genocide.

    We need to take back the moral highground in front of the Audience, and Cannot do that if we sound scary.

    • #9 by Coniglio Bianco on 04/26/2012 - 7:12 pm

      Why are you worried about ‘sounding scary’ when you are accusing people a hundred times a day of committing genocide? What is scarier than genocide? Implying that there might actually be a penalty for doing it?

      • #10 by Jason Here on 04/26/2012 - 9:21 pm

        Have you posted the Mantra anywhere in the last month?

        • #11 by OldBlighty on 04/28/2012 - 3:09 am

          Asking Conglio, why he has never posted Mantra and avoids answering when asked about it, is just as rude, as asking Abe Foxy Foxman, why he does not post the White Genocide Mantra.

          Where are your manners, Jason? lol

      • #12 by beefcake on 04/26/2012 - 11:08 pm

        Coniglio, Do you think it is a GOOD idea to go out talking about hangings and Tribunals?

        Is that going to give us the Moral Highground in the eyes of the Audience?

        Or is THAT horrendous punishments for the Anti-Whites just going to make us look like villains ourselves and cause the rest of what we have to say to be dismissed?

        What does it look like being in a debate and threatening to “beat up” the opposition in front of an Audience?

        White GeNOcide is all the fear the Audience needs, do we want them to fear US too?

        • #13 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/26/2012 - 11:32 pm

          “What does it look like being in a debate and threatening to ‘beat up’ the opposition in front of an Audience?”

          Well, when you put it that way… :)

        • #14 by Coniglio Bianco on 04/27/2012 - 10:47 am

          As I’ve said before I don’t think it would be a good idea to go around talking about it in great detail but it wouldn’t hurt to put the idea into people’s heads.

          Sometimes I get the feeling that despite all the talk about genocide that even some people on this site do not believe that it is actually genocide. Think about it for a minute. Do you actually believe that it is GENOCIDE? Really? If so then certain things logically follow.

          Genocide is a crime is it not? The people who are committing genocide against us are criminals are they not? Criminals who commit crimes are punished and not because those who enforce the laws are villains.

          Yes, I understand that you are worried about what the audience will think but give them a little credit. Most Whites actually know that they are being wiped out. They just don’t know what to do about it. You are worried too much about what our people will think of us and not worried enough about what our people will think of the enemy once it becomes clear what has been done to them.

          I should remind everyone that this is a crime in progress. Would the victim of an attempted rape in progress ever be considered a villain for reminding the would be rapist that the punishment for rape is a lengthy jail term? I think not and particularly not if it would prevent the attempt from being completed. If this were any ‘ordinary’ crime you would not be worried about the appearance of the victim.

          They are not horrendous punishments either they are the punishments that are prescribed by law by the international community. No more and no less.

          Why do you want to debate the opposition? I don’t see why any of us should be debating them and I personally have no intention of debating anyone who questions my right to exist. If you wish to exercise your right to exist then simply claim your right. It is not up for discussion.

          Our enemy has reason to fear us but our own people do not. Give them what they want to hear. A reason to hope for the future.

          • #15 by Gavin on 04/27/2012 - 10:59 am

            Yes. This is something I have been doing lately. Promoting the idea that once the program of genocide against our race is stopped, Whites will be able to live in White communities if they wish with all the great things that come with that.

          • #16 by Gavin on 04/27/2012 - 2:44 pm

            “Sometimes I get the feeling that despite all the talk about genocide that even some people on this site do not believe that it is actually genocide.”

            It’s can be a big thing to grasp because for me it is something that I was born into. The program of genocide against my race was well underway when I was born. It’s like if some kid was born in the middle of some long African war where his tribe is slowly being eliminated. He would just think that was normal life.

            Same for me. I can see what is being done to my race. I can even see the anti-Whites celebrating it, however because it has always been “that’s just the way things are” it does take some mental discipline to recognize that all the third word immigration, integration, intermarriage is aimed at the elimination of my race, it’s genocide.

          • #17 by Jason Here on 04/27/2012 - 6:32 pm

            Coniglio, I’m getting tired of you insulting us. I wish you were here in person to imply I’m a wimp. You remind me of the reason White Advocacy has failed for 50 years – self indulgent loudmouths that can’t do a day’s work. I keep asking you where you post the mantra and you never reply. I don’t why you post here other than to disrupt and waste our time. Yet, I’m supposed to believe you are pro-White? I don’t buy it.

            • #18 by Coniglio Bianco on 04/28/2012 - 2:30 am

              You don’t know the slightest thing about me. I didn’t ask for your approval either. If you don’t like my posts don’t read them.

            • #19 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/28/2012 - 5:45 am

              Coniglio takes some getting used to, and then when you think you’ve gotten used to him, he comes out with something so outrageously provocative that one’s mind can’t avoid suspicions.

              Whether he does more harm than good here is certainly a question, but either way, I’m placing my strong bet that he’s just a sourpuss.

              To his credit, and importantly, among all the horse poop he lays down, one finds some wonderful ponies that wouldn’t show up here otherwise. No one but him can bring to the table some of the good stuff he brings.

              Two examples of lesser but memorable stuff are his statement when we were discussing death threats, “The people who want to genocide us also want to kill us. What a surprise,” and his offering a statement by Napoleon as a succinct summary of a recent goof of a few of us, “Don’t interrupt the enemy when he’s making a mistake.” (That WAS Coniglio, wasn’t it? Sometimes I attribute things to the wrong person).

              Among more important offerings, he recently corrected beefcake on the latter’s phrase, “attempt at genocide,” or “attempted genocide,” which prompted beefcake to a nice little riff on that that I believe has ended up in one of his podcasts. Of course that was something that someone else here might have caught also. But maybe not.

              When I was going through a provocative phase at OO, a couple of posters there were calling me jew, jew, jew. I tell you, that accusation seems real simple-minded when you’re on the receiving end.

              Have you ever had a day where you felt so wretched that 90% of what came to your mind and came out of your mouth was negative, negative, negative? Imagine being cursed with feeling like that ALL the time.

              Most of the time I’m glad Coniglio’s here. Every small town needs it’s eccentrics who have a different perspective.

              I’ll post this to you instead of to OB, because I don’t feel strong enough right now to fuss with OB! :)

              Coniglio’s question, “do you really believe it’s genocide,” is IMO always a good question. Some pro-Whites have no trouble with “genocide” (a friend of mine says she’s seen that for years, but she gets all tangled up by “anti-racist is a code word for anti-White!), but others of us had to think real hard for awhile to see it, and there’s always deeper levels that new understandings can reach in a person.

              Coniglio’s blindly mistaken and odd conclusions around that and many other matters are entirely consistent with his personality IMO.

              My two cents.

              • #20 by Jason Here on 04/28/2012 - 7:14 am

                Fair points. I’ve been accused of all sorts of things over at OO, usually by what ya’ll call the Torch Light crew, so I’m probably quick to condemn. I used to think there were a couple of posters trying to push illegal talk over there, for the purpose of getting the site shut down – but that may have been my imagination – although I did hear they had a troll attack at one point. But yeah, sometimes people like to vent, I have to remember that, I do it myself.

                And believe me, some of the stuff I would agree with if having a beer in a bar. It’s just that what we do here, in a public forum, well I think it needs to be more professional, so to speak.

                • #21 by OldBlighty on 04/28/2012 - 7:45 am

                  I could see you were getting upset with him Jason, as many others have before you.

                  My advice is to just ignore his comments. He is a poo thrower and nothing more.

        • #22 by Coniglio Bianco on 04/27/2012 - 11:43 am

          It was one of our adversaries who said, ‘when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse’ and that is how we should appear to our people.

          • #23 by OldBlighty on 04/28/2012 - 2:47 am

            You mean Bin Laden, one of the greatest adversaries of Zionism?

            Interesting you would say that, Conglio. That was a major slip.

    • #24 by The Old Man of the Mountain on 04/26/2012 - 7:18 pm

      We are the Good Guys, and we should make that clear at all times.

      Those who are enabling the World Wide Genocide of White Children are the Bad Guys.

      Which side would John Wayne be on?

    • #25 by Jason Here on 04/26/2012 - 9:20 pm

      That’s a great line about not looking like Totalitarian Tyrants in waiting. Honestly, I always wonder if half those scary guys aren’t really federal agents trying to discredit White survival.

  8. #26 by Cleric Preston on 04/26/2012 - 6:32 pm

    I took it to mean that if you are under fire,and just keep your head down and NOT return fire,it doesn’t matter how ‘nice’ a guy you are it doesn’t change the fact that you didn’t return fire

    The gun fight is a metaphore for our war of words.If somebody says something Anti-White and we don’t call them on it,it doesn’t matter how much ‘pride’ or ‘commitment’ we say we have,we didn’t actively do anything to sucure the existence of our people and a future for White children.

    Or,to put it another way “Faith without works is dead”

    Thats the interpretation I took from the passage you refered to,anyway…

    • #27 by The Old Man of the Mountain on 04/26/2012 - 7:21 pm

      Hence the title “Now or Never”.

      Someday is always too late.

  9. #28 by The Old Man of the Mountain on 04/26/2012 - 7:06 pm

    Being a hippie required that you use that African soul handshake, instead of a White Man’s handshake, and that you bend over backwards to prove that you were not a racist.

    But Africans were never required to prove that they were not racist, in fact hippies were required to applaud African racism.

    • #29 by Gavin on 04/26/2012 - 7:54 pm

      That’s how you get to a situation like what was done to me in the public indoctrination system when some non-White was insulting my race and the moment I defend myself the PC freak “teacher” brands me with the r-word and sends me for re-education.

  10. #30 by Coniglio Bianco on 04/26/2012 - 7:38 pm

    This one is for our dear leader.

    Were the signatories to the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide ‘dribbling’ when they drafted it or were they just being ‘mentally retarded’?

    Do you realize that ‘shall be tried’ does not mean ‘may be tried’? It’s not optional. So what is the justification for throwing the entire treaty out the window? Or is it going to magically disappear by the time we have to worry about it?

    Article VI

    Persons charged with genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III shall be tried by a competent tribunal of the State in the territory of which the act was committed, or by such international penal tribunal as may have jurisdiction with respect to those Contracting Parties which shall have accepted its jurisdiction.

    • #31 by dungeoneer on 04/26/2012 - 9:10 pm

      There`s enough straw in that post to make yourself a little wicker man,

      Coach never said there would`nt be trials or tribunals because as you`ve pointed out the genocide law demands they take place anyway.He only said that we should be focusing our efforts (after white genocide is legitimate discussion and Justice Has Been Seen To Be Done) on getting ongoing financial reparations as a more long lasting punishment.

    • #32 by OldBlighty on 04/26/2012 - 9:24 pm

      Being right is not the point. WINNING is the point.


      I have a real world experience to relate, for PRACTICAL Pro Whites:

      I was discussing the White Genocide issue, with one anti-White, who thought himself particularly clever. He was convinced he could beat the UN Genocide Law, on one or more technicalities and he was bragging to me about it.

      I just want to say now, I did not raise the issue of punishment. He did.

      I explained, laws are enforced depending on the opinion of the judges interpreting them, at that point in time. For that reason I told him, we won’t be relying solely on the UN Genocide Law, to get Justice.

      I explained Bob’s plan of creating a permanent SWARM of investigators and informers, hunting anti-Whites to the ends of the Earth. Using civil law courts to prosecute and fine them and all of their descendents, once, twice, as many times as they can find infractions, or until the anti-Whites, have no money left to take.

      I told him:

      “We’ll turn billionaires into millionaires! This money could pay off national debts!

      These court cases will take so much money, they will be world news, every time they are successful.

      With this method, the world will never be allowed to forget what the anti-Whites did, for hundreds of years.”

      You know what? As soon as I finished laying it out, the anti-White went from bragging, to writing in caps and swearing at me in a RAGE.

      Why the dramatic change?

      He got it.

      There are no loopholes to exploit. A SWARM driven by unlimited money and the greed to take it, means permanent RUIN for his kind and their ideology.

      Of course this anti-White was reasonably intelligent, for an anti-White. :)

  11. #33 by Gavin on 04/26/2012 - 7:46 pm

    Attention paper hats and all those old folks who think like them.

    As someone who actually had to live with all the anti-White crap that you are so proud of supporting (for my generation of course, not your own). Let me just say #&@* YOU!!!

    (and I don’t just say it here, I say it to the anti-Whites whenever I get a chance)

  12. #34 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/26/2012 - 8:21 pm

    “We are the Good Guys, and we should make that clear at all times.”

    The podcast of Beefcake on that topic that is already up, “Episode 3: WE have the Moral Highground,” is fantastically good.

    • #35 by Jason Here on 04/26/2012 - 11:04 pm

      Thanks for the link HD, and that was an awesome broadcast beefcake. This is brilliant advice about how to actually win the political conversation.

      • #36 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/26/2012 - 11:36 pm

        beefcake’s username should be gift of gab. He’s got it.

  13. #37 by clovis on 04/26/2012 - 9:42 pm

    thankyou bob!!!

  14. #38 by Harumphty Dumpty on 04/26/2012 - 11:56 pm

    “mindless leftists”

    That’s a category I have some personal experience with. In 1968 I was living in NYC, and I accepted an invitation from a young lady to accompany her to an impromptu demonstration against John Lennon’s (somehow I had fallen in with a VERY left crowd) erotic drawings that were being shown at an art gallery. I didn’t know why we should demonstrate against that, but I was a beginner and figured there was some good reason that I just didn’t understand.

    After we’d been demonstrating awhile, curiosity got the best of me, and I asked her what it was we were demonstrating against exactly. She said she didn’t know, that she just really enjoyed demonstrations.

    I almost got arrested there too.

  15. #39 by Epiphany on 04/27/2012 - 4:37 am

    I hate Ethnic Pride! How come African Americans are not subdivided into Hutu Americans, Tutsi Americans, Ibo Americans, and Hottentot Americans? It is obvious that They do not want Blacks divided against each other. No, they want us Whites to be divided up into Italian Americans and Irish Americans and German Americans and Polish Americans, and Anglo Saxons (or whatever they now term those U.S. Citizens of English ancestry).

    Oh, how I hate those Hypenated Americanisms. Still, it just goes to show what the over all agenda is! Notice, They keep on harping on the Second World War in Europe, and the Troubles in Northern Ireland. Indeed, They want Whites to hate other Whites. Indeed, some of the cruelest stereotypes in the Media are of the British and the Germans– the British portrayed as Red Coats, and the Germans portrayed as Nazi SS officers.

    It is almost like there is an Ethnic System. All the Blacks are categorized as one Ethnic Group, despite the different types of Negroes there are, but the Whites are subdivided into Separate Ethnic Groups. Oh, I hate the very term “Ethnic”.

  16. #40 by Epiphany on 04/27/2012 - 4:55 am

    The Feminists are the biggest hypocrites under the sun. They only wish for WHITE men to feel bad about being men. They care not how horridly nonwhites mistreat their womenfolk, anywhere in the world. Still, “multiculturalism” trumps Feminism, and all concern for women’s rights, any day of the week.

    The Multiculturalists and Feminists will not turn on each other. I realize that now. The Feminists know their place in the Politically Correct scheme of things.

  17. #41 by Epiphany on 04/27/2012 - 6:14 am

    Feminism has served its purpose. That purpose was to make White men, and only White men, feel bad about being men. Again, they never cared how nonwhites mistreat their womenfolk (and, probably never will).

    It is only a matter of time, before Feminism fades away forever. I see no future in it!

  18. #42 by Annie Oakley on 04/29/2012 - 12:09 pm

    I’m so glad I grew up in a racially conscious house. I grew up in an all-white town from the 60’s to the 80’s. I encountered anti-white hate when I lived in NYC and Hawaii. That was enough to counter any white guilt I may have had from attending college.

    Because I grew up in an all-white society, I know the difference. We were polite to each other (there were still feuds between our folks) and manners were the norm. People dressed up to go to church, to work, for the holidays and we always dressed up when we got on a plane.

    We never, I mean never locked our houses. I don’t even remember if my Momma had a key to our house that was in reach! We never locked our cars, even when we went to town. Never. So those reminders of an all white peaceful safe town, keeps me going. This fuels my desire to keep on keeping on for any white children out there.

    I used the mantra even before I knew what it was. I used to ask people back in the 90’s when Prop 187 was going through. If you love diversity so much (that’s when I lived in CA), why don’t you live in East LA instead of Lilly White Irvine CA? I had one doctor so mad at me (while I was at a pro-187 booth to gather signature) he was spitting and sweating. It was quite a sight. In fact, I relished calling anti-whites on their hypocrisy.

    I post the mantra all over the place, but not at places preaching to the choir. Usually it’s yahoo articles or other websites. The comments always go through though.

    I do a lot of traveling so I never ever miss a chance to talk about white genocide if the subject of immigration comes up. When a white person starts discussing his frustration over co-workers not speaking English, I recite the mantra. Every single time the person nods their head and agrees with me. IF they have the time I write down on a piece of paper some websites that will help to educate them.

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