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Posted by Bob on April 27th, 2012 under Coaching Session

Backbaygrouch gave me a lot of information on the Mayflower Compact. He sort of apologized because being wrong embarrasses real people.

Not me. What I said was actually what the majority of people, if they have ever heard of the Compact at all an remember it, have impressed on them. You would be astonished to learn how much solid fact I have gotten out of making a complete fool of myself.

The fact is that public opinion is based on such vague remembered impressions. I had actually heard that the Compact was written on board.

Remember that when I was coming up the Pilgrims were the FIRST. A documentary on American history endorsed by the National Education Association began with “…how a nation founded by Pilgrims in Massachusetts in 1620 became a world power.”

That makes the NEA look a lot more like an idiot than if I said the Mayflower was French.

I have rethought my article in the light of the facts as presented by BBG. In public opinion OF MY DAY, the Compact was looked upon as the first statement of principles in American history. Beyond that, there was no story.

They just presented the Compact.

You knew the Pilgrims first landed in English America.

The reasons for it, as put down by BBG, require a pretty advanced understanding of history. You would play hell trying to explain these details in your average college history course.

First and foremost, how would you explicate, as BBG did, that the Compact was written largely because the Pilgrims did not decide to go on to some OTHER settlement. As I said, my Harvard graduated Associate Director was absolutely astonished to discover that Jamestown was settled BEFORE Plymouth.

A couple of facts in exchange. The first Indian the Pilgrims encountered spoke English. Europeans had been fishing off those shores since the late Middle Ages, and he had dealt with them regularly.

Secondly, the shipment that John Smith described as “twenty niggurs” who arrived a year before the Founding Fathers of Plymouth were, as BBG guessed, indentured. It is almost impossible to get a straight story about how slavery evolved in Jamestown,.

Blacks were always slaves in Latin America and, oddly enough, in Plymouth.

  1. #1 by Jason Here on 04/27/2012 - 7:04 am

    I’m lost as to what this all means.

    • #2 by dungeoneer on 04/27/2012 - 7:22 am

      The main theme is history as taught by Mommy Professor is bunk.

      • #3 by Epiphany on 04/27/2012 - 7:26 am

        That much is actually true, I suspect. What most should do is to homeschool their children, and if they do it very well, then they wont even need to go on to college or university at all.

        The colleges and universities are plagued by Cultural Marxism in any event, and as such are no place for students.

        • #4 by Jason Here on 04/27/2012 - 7:55 am

          Everything I don’t know remind me that self-education is a lifelong habit. Now, while it’s true colleges are cesspools of Marxism, if you want certain careers, you must go. Obviously doctors and lawyers must go, but also professional engineers and auditors.

          For business, math, engineering and science degrees, the bulk of your courses will be non-PC (well business has a bit more). And if a person wants to be an historian or psychologist, graduate education is almost certainly needed. The trick is to go and not be driven nuts by anti-White professors.

          Hopefully any kids of ours will already know the university has an agenda and will be inoculated against it. If you ever run into a smart aleck college kid spouting nonsense, remind him that a college degree is meant to be nothing more than a learners permit – and they have been using it.

  2. #5 by beefcake on 04/27/2012 - 8:56 am

    This is WHY writing 3 page essays on Race does not work.

    People only remember the big picture, the general concept, and they will forget and mess up the details.

    WHite GeNOcide and The Mantra, and the minin Mantras for small spaces, WORK because people can remember them easier than to recite a 3 page essay.

  3. #6 by ANOTHERWHITERABBIT on 04/27/2012 - 10:09 am

    popular opinion says napoleon was short i thought the mayflower was with christopher columbus and he never actually landed on the north american continent but on some islands near bermuda but he was definitly late since St brennon an irishman leaf erikson a viking and quite a few others had already come and gone from north america

  4. #7 by Jason Here on 04/27/2012 - 6:55 pm

    Off topic, but I don’t think tailgating with an AMPW person does anymore good than with an anti-White. If the person on the other side is a decent person, but doesn’t get the Mantra, badgering them with repeated slogans isn’t the way to go, IMO.

    • #8 by Gavin on 04/28/2012 - 2:26 am

      Yes. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

      Throwing our talking points at AMPW won’t get them to understand or embrace our strategy.

  5. #9 by BGLass on 04/28/2012 - 9:27 am

    College never hurt anyone— unless they don’t have the intelligence and moral courage to outgrow it. And if you want to be a propagandist, there is no better place to go.

    There is no such thing as a non-PC class— even business and technical studies. The last Ph.d. in statistics I met was writing papers about comparing black people’s wages, (and obscuring spending power, etc.) It does not get more PC than taxation, or law, or agriculture. Lyshenko (sp) was a good example.

    you cannot get outside the system you are in. Period.

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