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I Like Mantra But I Don’t Like Guru

Posted by Bob on May 23rd, 2012 under Coaching Session

Mantra is probably one of those terms they like to use in the New Age crap.

Like the Beatles, they also fall for a “guru,” who usually has a dozen Cadillacs.

We are definitely not hippie or New Age. Those are fads. We are in a serious and lasting fight that the media is trying to crush, not use as a fad.

I like being an old fashioned, very American Coach.

One commenter was saying that the Mantra was being determined by the only source that mattered, and I actually tightened up before he said “BUGS” rather than “Bob.”

Dead right.

My whole goal is to get everything I have so practiced and thought out that I can be DONE WITHOUT, and not make William Pierce’s chilling mistake of leaving no heirs.

Hell, I don’t just want an heir, I want a whole set of replacements. That’s what real teachers and real coaches do that gurus cannot.

A Coach is interested in his TEAM.

A Guru is interested in HIMSELF.

  1. #1 by The Old Man of the Mountain on 05/23/2012 - 2:06 pm

    I suppose that a mantra derives from the Aryan tradition.

    It seems to be akin to a motto or an adage.

    Words are thoughts.

    Thoughts lead to actions.

    Actions shape our Children’s Future.

  2. #2 by shari on 05/23/2012 - 3:14 pm

    I wish that Dave’s comment would be put back up because I thought it was such a good one. I have no problem with seeing the Mantra as a weapon. As a matter of fact, when it comes to “friends and family” it often feels as if it cuts your own self.

    It seems that every victory of our people over our enemies has historically been of a temporary nature. Probably because it never before has been so obvious that they want White Genocide. Never! At least in historical memory. This is a very important time in history, I’m convinced.

    • #3 by The Old Man of the Mountain on 05/23/2012 - 7:26 pm

      Victory is always temporary.

      The day after you pull the last weed from your garden, a new weed sprouts.

      We will only have a Homeland for as long as we will Fight for it.

  3. #4 by stradivari on 05/23/2012 - 8:13 pm

    We need more whites willing to stand up and speak the simple truth about the threat we face. I know first hand how an individual is made to pay for that. However, if enough of us stand and speak, there’ll be nothing the anti-whites can do about.

    PS. “the Mantra was being determined by the only source that mattered”

    Bob this quote is from Whitman. It was in a comment where he was attacking me for not writting the Mantra excactly the way HE wanted it. When Whitman said ‘Bugs’ he clearly meant Himself.

    Dick is obsessed with the Asian overpopulation myth, and viciously attacked me for pointing out that it IS a myth. That myth is used as justification for importing over one million asians to white countries every year. That sounds like justifying genocide to me.

  4. #5 by Dick_Whitman on 05/23/2012 - 9:33 pm

    The message itself is unstoppable in the hands of a practiced BUGS Adept and our enemies know this.

    Short of making the Mantra and BUGS illegal, the enemy will try to disrupt the disseminator of the message; that of course being BUGS. Because BUGS is an internet based organizing entity, the main threat to its processes is the threat of sophisticated trolls.

    These trolls are more advanced than the trolls who come to provoke violence or scream Mommy Prof’s programming. These trolls will actually try to steer the entity (BUGS) in directions that make it ineffective at its purpose (fighting White genocide by spreading a consistent message). These trolls will start drama, create factions, and act extremely insolent.

    And nobody should ever be above suspicion (except probably Bob, Brain, and the White Rabbit. If these guys are sophisticated anti-White trolls then I am over my head in understanding this situation. lol). If someone starts acting really difficult, stirring shit about other pro-Whites or Team Members, selectively listening, and not backing up their assertions and proclamations, then you know something is wrong (even if these people have been contributing here for years).

    This is all anti-Whites can do at this point, short of making the Mantra and/or BUGS illegal. They will not face it head on. The SPLC and ADL can’t go near it. But the anti-Whites have to do something to fight it. So sophisticated trolling is the only option. Our enemies knew what a threat Bob/BUGS was to the “Pink Rabbit” order before most of us even heard of BUGS or Bob.

    Of course, not every difference of opinion against you is a sophisticated trolling operation. Smart, capable groups of people will have some internal competition over the direction of the group. This should be encouraged, but it requires people who are mature, disciplined and in control of their egos.

    So if BUGS is to endure, it needs to be able to judge people’s intentions and teamwork ability. If someone absolutely refuses to back up their assertions, or provide evidence to their point of view, and/or acts extremely insolent, then regardless of being a troll or having a personality disorder, this person is not a good fit for the team.

    While normally thought of as a negative, I see a lot of good in BUGS being a totally open source, public, and transparent entity. Everything anybody ever wrote here is on record for people to read at any time. The history of someone’s words are available for study to anyone. Someone with a history of excessive insolence, name calling, Mantra sabotage, and shit stirring can be shown their history by the BUGSter who takes the time to do it.

    AND AS BUGSTERS KNOW (from their interrogations of anti-Whites) anybody who refuses to explain their words in a reasonable manner and answer your inquires about their conduct politely, is most likely not being very forthright with you.

    • #6 by stradivari on 05/24/2012 - 2:26 pm

      Well Dick, that’s an awfull lot of words just to criticize me, so I take it you’re still planning on going after other Bugsers eventually.

      It’s interesting that you insist I’m a sophisticated troll, while also insinuating that I’m niether smart nor capable and that I may have a personality disorder. These diverse accusations aren’t “spreading a consistent message”.

      You are again getting very upset that I pointed out the asian overpopulation myth is a myth. And you’ve either missed or ignored how it is used to promote our genocide.

      You demand sources or “holy scriptures” just like so many of the anti-whites do.

      You claim to have played college basketball, but you seemed to have completely missed how anti-white it is. You see Bob as no different than a D1 coach, and completely miss the fact that those coaches are hired by the anti-whites that run the univerisitys.

      Whitman, you claim to believe I’m a troll, you’re apparently oblivious to the most obvious anti-white activity around you, and yet your writing is excellent. I’ve commented that you’re either a fraud or incredibly stupid. Your prose suggests intelligence.

      Since I’m actually having fun, and as long as you’re only attacking me you aren’t doing any real harm, fire away.

    • #7 by David Joop on 05/24/2012 - 3:05 pm

      EDIT: I think that this should be discussed over at the appropriate thread on the main forum rather than here.

      It shouldn’t spill over into the comments section.

  5. #8 by dungeoneer on 05/24/2012 - 3:26 am

    I`ve been time-travelling and can`t find the article I`m looking for but stumbled upon this:“duhh”/


    There was an interesting discussion in General Comments, now 5, about the wording of the Mantra. One of the commenters has run into the usual problem of people saying they had never heard of a “race problem.”

    The Mantra begins, “It is said there is this race problem,..” so naturally nobody ever heard of a race problem. I find this is normally the first reaction to almost anything


    I`ve had anti-whites plenty of times try the line:

    “No one is saying white countries are for everybody”

    • #9 by six gun on 05/24/2012 - 5:05 am

      There is no “5” in “DUHH????” it goes to comment 4.

      One of the problems I have with the BUGS website is everything is open. You cannot put forward an idea privately. I suspect this was an early decision.

      I would like to see the versions of the Mantra Bob has said can be field tested up clearly sign posted and available.

      Some observations:

      The Mantra is American.
      “Liberals and respectable conservatives agree..” are American political terms. All Americans know what they mean, Canadians probably also do but it does not automically mean the same outside North America.

      This is something that should be born in mind.

      I see the comment about Korea and Taiwan.
      To the average White guy they are about the same, Korea is absolutely correct on population densities. The line cannot be attacked with Korea. I have seen the line attacked and sidetracked with statistics that Taiwan at least on paper has a higher population density.
      I saw a video made by a black woman in Korea about how she found it and was treated. I read “complaints” that blacks are not treated the same as Koreans. That Koreans are pro-Korean. I don’t hear anyone saying Korea needs to be flooded with the Third World to sort this out.

      I know that some BUGsters do not want the Mantra changed.
      I just put these observations forward for Bob to see.
      He can decide.

  6. #10 by Dick_Whitman on 05/24/2012 - 7:04 pm


    please do not misinterpret my last comments regarding “sophisticated trolls” as pertaining to you. While you may be a little more patient than the average troll, it’s still obvious once you start writing. But I am open to the chance that you might just have a personality disorder?

    Regardless, anyone who took the time to read our discussion for the last 4 or 5 days would plainly see that you’re not easy to communicate with. You’re not a team player. It doesn’t matter why this is.

    You attempted to spread a consistent message that hurts our efforts. Every available source of information contradicts the claim that the Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Taiwan (although they are more crowded than Japan). Bob made the change because people were complaining about being called on this.

    And your reply when inquired about this was as follows:


    “”I would like to know why the mantra was changed from correct to incorrect. The Netherlands and Belgium really do have higher polulation densities than Japan or Taiwan. In fact much higher. Th UN population estimates for Asian countries are lies. They are ‘produced information’. Most Asian countries only have half the population th UN claims. This information is produced for a reason.

    The UN demands mass immigration and assimilation in all White countries, and only White countries. They want to destroy White people, not Yellow people. That is excactly why they exagerate Asian populations. So they can claim that they would support mass immigration to Japan or where-ever, but they’re too crowded. It’s a lie, they only demand this in White countries because they want to Genocide us. This is the whole point of BUGS, and changing the Mantra and taking their population lies seriously is playing right into their hands.

    Stop playing by anti-white rules. Stop using anti-White numbers. We should control the dialogue.” (stradivari)

    This comment to me looks like you tried to use BUGS shop verbiage to push for a message that makes our job more difficult? You’re pushing for a Mantra that contains a passage that all available evidence proves wrong (1).

    Of course, when called on this all you do is make claims, assertions, and proclamations about myself (again with no evidence or even logic to back it up).

    I realize it’s hopeless asking you this but I’m doing so for the sake of the readers;

    HOW DO YOU KNOW that the Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Taiwan? Since all the available evidence can’t be trusted, where are you getting your numbers? Can you share them with us? Maybe BUGS would switch back the Mantra if you have the evidence to back this up?!! So please, tell us how you know this information?

    And don’t try any more of your stupid shit. Your arguments against me are beyond retarded. You are not what I was referring too when I wrote of “sophisticated trolls.” I’m talking about operatives trained by intelligence or “watchdog” organizations, not the local anti-racist action retard.

    If you’re not a troll then it truly is scary how incredibly stupid and ignorant you are (and very possibly suffering from a personality disorder?)



    Note to reader: Current population densities:

    Population density per sq km
    Taiwan 634
    Netherlands 404
    Belgium 361
    Japan 339

    • #11 by David Joop on 05/25/2012 - 5:58 am

      Ironically, aren’t you using some of the very tactics of the ‘sophisticated trolls’ that you warned us about, Dick Whitman?

      Anyway, like I said, this should probably be confined to that one thread in the main forum rather than you two continuously attacking each other in the comments section.

      • #12 by Dick_Whitman on 05/25/2012 - 4:26 pm

        Jason Joop,

        You’re thinking the right way, no-one should be above suspicion or above questioning.

        Your next step would be to provide examples of my possible transgressions.

        We must be 100% accountable for what we write, and if a BUGSter is concerned with any of our writings then we should be 100% willing to address them.

        But if we don’t provide evidence or a rationale for our proclamations or accusations, we end up looking like Stradivari has for the last 4 or 5 days.

        So please feel free to show me/us what exactly you mean?

        Thank you Mr. Joo p

        • #13 by David Joop on 05/25/2012 - 9:06 pm

          “We must be 100% accountable for what we write, and if a BUGSter is concerned with any of our writings then we should be 100% willing to address them.”

          I agree. So why haven’t you addressed Stradivari’s thread on the main forum then? If I was an innocent man and someone had accused me of that, I’d be pretty pissed off and respond to it directly.

          Maybe you should try and sort it out there instead of accusing or implying people are trolls in the comments?

          You also seem to be having trouble with my username – it’s David Joop.

  7. #14 by David Joop on 05/25/2012 - 9:03 pm

    “We must be 100% accountable for what we write, and if a BUGSter is concerned with any of our writings then we should be 100% willing to address them.”

    I agree. So why haven’t you addressed Stradivari’s thread on the main forum then? If I was an innocent man and someone had accused me of that, I’d be pretty pissed off and respond to it directly.

    Maybe you should try and sort it out there instead of accusing or implying people are trolls in the comments?

    You also seem to be having trouble with my username – it’s David Joop.

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