Jackie Gleason was at the bar, of course, waiting to go on.
He told the guy with him that “The only difference between me and these other people is guts.”
This remark was a bit of a surprise, since Jackie Gleason had a high opinion of his own talents. He would not go on a show unless he got paid more than any other guest had ever gotten paid.
This demand for a high price was one thing that kept him at the top of the list until his death.
At the bar, Gleason went on, “There are at least a dozen people sitting in this place who could be funnier than I am,” he said, “But I am the one who gets out there and DOES it.”
The first press conference my tiny group put on in DC was for some coal miners who objected to textbooks foisted on them by the education authorities. I wrote the press release, of course, and a reporter immediately asked me who the Populist Forum was.
The reporters got a laugh out of my reply. I stood there for a minute and then blurted out, “That’s US!”
It never occurred to me that anyone would want to know who US was. So, after all my years in politics, I learned a basic: You are who you SAY you are. I wrote us a separate press release right quick.
You are who you say you are, BUT YOU HAVE TO SAY IT. That’s where the guts come in.
Give ’em credit. When Bella Abzug and a couple of others damned few women would want to be associated with held a press conference, they called themselves The Women’s Movement.
The Women’s so-called Movement is tiny compared to many conservative women’s organizations. But none of them ever had the moxie or the chutzpah to say that THEY were the Women’s Movement. Politicians on the right ached to have a huge women’s group they could talk about, but every one of them cooed, “Oh, we are not THE Women’s Movement, our issues are …”
They didn’t have the guts.
In the tiny section of Stormfront sixgun started by asking why everyone on SF didn’t at least HELP BUGS; one reply said that he was against anyone being RUDE enough to toss the Mantra into a conversation on the web about something else.
No leftist has ever failed to make a movie we paid to see into a “message” that has nothing to do with what we paid for.
The usual ones answered with what they said were answers to the Mantra, all of which you could repeat in your sleep. Other talked about a more “sophisticated” approach.
These are easy to translate. Some say they fear to appear rude. Some say they fear to appear repetitive
Some are afraid of appearing to be mere followers.
Saving the race is important, but not important enough for one to risk looking bad.
Looking bad is one of the prices we are happy to pay to get people to SEE the Mantra.
Guts.
I would appreciate sixgun or Horus or someone putting the above in our Stormfront thread.
#1 by Lord Nelson on 08/17/2012 - 8:49 am
“I would appreciate sixgun or Horus or someone putting the above in that thread”
I would be happy to place this post in that thread. But I am not sure which thread it is. If someone could send me the link and it will be done.
#2 by Simmons on 08/17/2012 - 9:28 am
We’re all part and parcel of the problem, it is our comfort zone to go in the internet and debate what dozens or maybe hundreds of people find interesting, from the Confederacy to WWII to any other arcane topic, mainly harmless activity we could do forever or until we were needed as props by the anti-whites.
While millions are terrorized by the anti-whites repetitively shrieking “racist” we play it “safe.” There is so much power out there, and money. Right now billionaires are spending millions to create what amounts to genocide (ours).
They are breaking the law, they are subject to civil and criminal penalties. Those organizations that deny whites the right to group defense are breaking the law, the people who fund them are breaking the law.
Who won or lost the Civil War will be there when we settle these injustices, they might even be lavishly funded sinecures, but not if we are wiped out.
#3 by six gun on 08/17/2012 - 10:49 am
I started a few threads about White genocide and the Mantra.
I looked at the huge number of people on SF and asked myself why were people devoting time to bitching or playing 88 games to name but a few of their totally non contributory activities, when they know the White race is in a nose dive heading to their own genocide.
So I stated a thread on
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t886692/
I guess this is the one Bob is referring to.
Have you people see the Immortals?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0vCJJk2gbA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkU6KTjLTYU
Totally awesome.
Oh to have been there. It would have been fantastic.
In the UK you would get arrested for wearing a mask!
Naturally the corrupt media call them the usual names.
Aren’t these people at CNN so rude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTpBkXABOq4
I’ve posted the full blog by Bob on the thread I think he refers to.
#4 by Dave on 08/17/2012 - 10:55 am
The Establishment suffers from a poverty of honor. It lives in a ghetto. Any challenges to us that rise there are in fact grants of power to us.
There is no comparison or likeness politically between BUGS and the “Woman’s Movement”.
The “Womans Movement” had no honor, like everything the Establishment promotes.
BUGS is ENTIRELY different.
#5 by Gavin on 08/17/2012 - 11:30 am
Dave something has been bugging me lately. I have in the past pretended to be less “civilized” and moral than I am in order to demonstrate a point to onlookers, I have also given into petty hatreds just to make my opponents upset. I have joined in on bullying. I knew these things were dishonorable and beneath me when I was doing them but I did them anyways. I know the obvious answer is to stop doing them…but I can’t see to shake the guilt and shame I feel for having done them. Not only because of the harm it may have done to our cause but the harm it might have done to my sense of morality as well.
I’m not looking for consolation. I guess I am just posting this as a warning to anyone reading that engaging in these behaviors is not something that I have found leads you down a good road.
#6 by Wm White on 08/17/2012 - 11:12 am
From “Faust: The First Part of the Tragedy” by Goethe.
Faust begins to translate the Bible from Greek into German.” His quandary is how to translate the gospel of John (1:1). How is he to render the Greek word ‘logos’ of: “In the beginning was the word (logos)?” He rejects “Word,” then rejects “Sense,” and then “Power” before settling on: “In the beginning was the deed.” This translation of “deed” for ‘logos’ is of great significance for us because it also means to ACT. To act and create is a very white western concept as oppose to contemplating ones navel.
#7 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/17/2012 - 11:55 am
“they called themselves The Women’s Movement.”
This is why I always refer to ourselves as “the white movement,” and refer to our various sites as “white sites.”*
That original idea (which I thank linux lewis for) also inspired the experiment I embarked on some months ago to see if this sort of thing can also be successfully incorporated into bugser posts. Iceknight and I had what seemed to us a roaring success with that on the single day we tested it against vicious biter and bunny spangle, and I hope to get back to the experiment soon and continue it.
It seems to me a natural thing to do….just casually and matter of factly, almost subliminally, appropriate for ourselves the term white to mean what we think it ought to mean: white and normal.
Here’s the thread we had begun, if anyone is interested. I’ve just added a post to it that’s awaiting moderation and includes most of the exchange between Biter and Bunny and iceknight and myself.
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/topic/teaching-whites-to-say-whites/page/5/
*NOT “pro-white movement,” or “pro-white sites,” except when absolutely necessary for clarity!!!!
#8 by Daniel Genseric on 08/17/2012 - 12:20 pm
“What is it that you ‘pro-whites’ WANT?”
“We the people, we WHITES, want to be HEARD.”
“Well, then…What is your MESSAGE?”
“The Mantra is OUR message”
THAT is our opportunity to seize the moment.
#9 by Bob on 08/17/2012 - 12:47 pm
HD, NO!
The only way I can start with someone I know on the Mantra is to use the term “anti-white.”
Changing from pro-white to white is a BAD idea.
Anti-white/pro-white ain’t broke, so why fix it?
#10 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/17/2012 - 5:52 pm
“Changing from pro-white to white is a BAD idea.”
Oh Christ, here we go again!
Bob, several months ago you had said something much less explicit about “pro white/anti-white”, and from your wording I assumed (correctly as it turned out) that you had NOT intended “pro-white” to be taken as a prescription, and I proceeded with plans to launch an experiment of appropriating the term “white” in bugser posts to mean “whites who oppose white genocide,” just as feminists appropriated “women” to mean “women who agree with feminist ideals.”
Finally you spoke up and said that there had been no order, and I was welcome to proceed and report back.
So that same day iceknight and I ran the experiment (which is the single time it’s been run!), and a copy of those exchanges is now awaiting moderation on the thread I linked above, as I mentioned. Once that post is up, you and everyone else can see that we did everything else the same as usual…”white” was just another entrée to “anti-white” and “white genocide.”
But despite your previous permission, today out of the blue with NO FURTHER INFORMATION, unless you followed iceknight’s link on the same day you gave permission and viewed our single running of the experiment so far with Biter and Bunny, you reverse yourself!
Please: WHY?
I will abide by your wishes, but my feeling is that you’ve jumped to a conclusion without full memory of, or understanding of, what the matter is, just as IMO you jumped to the conclusion that we should quit posting links.
Why not reserve judgment until you see the only new info since you last decreed the opposite, the info that will be available when the exchange iceknight and I had with Biter and Bunny back then is moderated today and goes up??
In fact, why not wait until iceknight and I can run the experiment in various out of the way places, and then report back the results, which was a plan I understood you to have given your permission to?
Bob, here’s a separate question, which is not directly a bugsering question, but which I now badly feel a need for your opinion on, since it’s not clear to me if your brief statement (if that statement is going to be final) is also meant to cover it.
I see possible problems myself with appropriating “white” to ourselves in bugsering posts, but to me the separate idea that the white movement as a whole should appropriate to ourselves the word “white,” just as the women’s movement appropriated to itself the word “women,” is an idea that seems obviously a good one. We should call ourselves “the white movement”, not “the pro-white movement,” just as “the women’s movement” did not call itself “the pro-womens movement.” And we should call our various sites “white sites,” not “pro-white sites.”
Bob, do you have an opinion on that?
So Bob, I have two questions, that one, and the other: are you willing to let iceknight and I run the experiment in bugser posts of appropriating the word “white” to mean “whites who oppose white genocide” (the experiment to be run in places that don’t cause confusion) and report back, or are you willing at least for yourself to look at the results of the one time we have run the experiment once my copy of that is moderated and goes up today, before pronouncing definitively?
If the answer is not yes, but no, please tell me why, so I’m not so totally bewildered as to why you have changed your mind!
And to anyone here who may be inclined to once again give me a nasty time about this issue, for writing this post and making these requests, please go to hell in advance! 🙂
#11 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/17/2012 - 7:07 pm
If I could still edit, I would change my first line to,
“Kripes! Here we go again!”
Apologies.
#12 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/17/2012 - 6:04 pm
“The only way I can start with someone I know on the Mantra is to use the term “anti-white.””
I’m totally bewildered how this fits into the issue of appropriating “white” to mean “whites who oppose white genocide.”
#13 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/17/2012 - 6:17 pm
“Anti-white/pro-white ain’t broke, so why fix it?”
Bob, IMO “pro-white” IS broken! It’s a phrase that separates us from the group we’re trying to attract to us. Why not instead use a term, “white,” that automatically merges our target group with us before the fight is even joined?
The two anti-whites we did this experiment on had a satisfying reaction to our being unwilling to allow them to consider themselves white while being anti-white.
It turns out these anti-whites care more about being white than one might think! Lol!
And that opens a world of possibilities in tactics.
#14 by Bob on 08/17/2012 - 1:53 pm
Lord Nelson I just substituted “Stormfront thread.” This article was inspired by my reading over the thread in SF in which six gun asked why they didn’t all help BUGS.
#15 by BGLass on 08/17/2012 - 2:32 pm
Was it Dave or Dick who once coached, “Just assume the position.”
Just take it. It’s really that easy.
#16 by j1mmyZeta on 08/17/2012 - 5:32 pm
It’s fairly easy to tailor mini-mantras to suit whatever the topic the of article you are posting on is.
Even if the article has little to do with race, in most cases if it is something about politics, there will be a politically correct element to the story, so focus on that one element and use it to put forward our talking points.
I wouldn’t post the Mantra on articles about baking or fishing though. I think that would look silly.
#17 by six gun on 08/17/2012 - 6:37 pm
But j1mmy you are forgetting the 10-year-old in Oldham who was labelled a racist for calling his WHITE school mate with the surname Brown, a chocolate brownie.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1357114/Ten-year-old-accused-racism-calling-white-classmate-chocolate-brownie.html
Never forget the anti-White establishment in Police State UK are always looking for excuses to terrorise White children.
And never forget that the Guardian newspaper in Police State UK asked the question:
“..Is angling a racist sport?”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/oct/19/hideously-diverse-britain-angling-racist
I mean the Sunday Times even discussed food being racist –
‘No reason for food to be racist”
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/120527/Magazine/sundaytimesmagazine_01.html
Yes my friends in Police State UK the anti-Whites know no bounds to their anti-Whiteness.
When I was a kid I remember you used to see white coloured dog shit but I haven’t seen any for years. I suspect those mutts have been rounded up and politically corrected.
#18 by steadiness on 08/17/2012 - 9:11 pm
Hmm, maybe we should ask some Communists whether they would rather argue against “pro-whites” or “the white movement”.
I think “the white movement” sounds like an attempt at co-opting the success of the ’60s social movements and seeking balance between fighting racism and preventing reverse-racism.
Are we a ’60s social movement? No. So don’t refer to us as one.
#19 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/17/2012 - 10:04 pm
steadiness, do you like “pro-white” because it’s stronger?
We could call ourselves “Nazis,” which is even stronger.
I don’t understand the last part of your second paragraph.
I admit to astonishment. I had thought the phrase,
“the white movement”
would be such an obviously good idea that, far from encountering any opposition, I would by now have been lifted aloft upon everyone’s shoulders and paraded around to victorious cheers.
#20 by steadiness on 08/18/2012 - 1:49 am
Some idiots are running around calling themselves “masculinists” or “the men’s movement” accusing feminists of being naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews and demanding “true gender equality”. It’s stupid because if they accept the hierarchy of victimhood (I’ve argued with some of them, they do), then it’s pretty clear that women have a stronger claim to being the victims.
So my concern with “the white movement” is that people might get the wrong impression that pro-whites are just here to fine-tune the system of political correctness.
The animal rights movement claims that no progressive social movement has ever failed. Many leftists acknowledge that animal rights people are kooky, but can only argue endlessly with them about whether animals deserve a place in the hierarchy of victimhood.
Many leftists, myself 6 months ago included, believe that there is nothing but political correctness, and I know from arguing with them that leftists continue to be shocked by mantra thinking. “Pro-white” is a more surprising label than “the white movement” because it sounds less universal.
#21 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/18/2012 - 5:25 am
Hm. Thanks a lot for explaining, and so clearly. And congratulations on your migration from the left! 🙂 You’re no longer really a newbie I guess, but it would be interesting to hear your story if you want to tell it, and maybe the best place would be our thread http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/topic/are-you-new-to-bugs-swarm/
The question is how the phrase “the white movement” would affect our target audience, not so much how it will affect anti-whites steeped in leftist custom.
I wish my awaiting-moderation post would be put up to illustrate the reaction iceknight and I got to other uses of the word “white” with anti-whites.
I don’t see that pre-moderating our posts aids discussion here, or serves any other purpose that I can see. Why not moderate the posts AFTER they are up, so as to not interfere with discussion?
But thanks to whoever is keeping this site up and running at all now.
#22 by GregP on 08/18/2012 - 2:28 am
Could someone please tell me how I can get into contact with Bob? I tried emailing him on the Bob@whitakeronline.org address but it got returned saying no such email address exists.
If someone could PM me his email address (provided you think he would approve), I would greatly appreciate it.
#23 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/18/2012 - 12:33 pm
If anyone is interested, the exchanges between myself and iceknight (who does the better job), and Biter and Bunny are up now, in which iceknight and I ran the experiment of including in bugser posts the appropriation of the term “white” to mean “white who opposes white genocide.”
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/topic/teaching-whites-to-say-whites/page/5/#post-28900
#24 by Dave on 08/18/2012 - 2:29 pm
Steadiness,
You make very good points. Everything gets swept into the vortex of Political Correctness, including the risk that can happen to the Mantra.
But what can’t be stopped is the continuing subtext of racialism. That subtext has a long shelf-life. We can count on it lasting hundreds of years and there is no way in hell the Establishment is going to survive that.
Just a few miles to the south of where I live, Mexican gangs are continuing their trade of kidnapping people for nickels per body, and doing it with impunity and without restraint of any kind. Also, there is a fad in one-upmanship in barbarity: It went from decapitation, to skinning victims alive, and now the standard is burning victims alive. This involves merely tens of thousands of victims in a matter of months, mind you, and no big deal to the millions of nitwits living across the border in the US who think this doesn’t involve them. They BELIEVE in “the justice system”.
Political Correctness is taking one hell of a beating in Mexico because it just cannot survive an environment like that.
It is all gestalts. The meaning of anything changes according to circumstances. That is why the Mantra has a very long shelf life too. Wait and see.
#25 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/20/2012 - 10:47 am
@ Bob:
Bob, I wonder if my first post above that you responded to gave the impression that I use the phrase “the white movement” in bugser posts, and if that idea was what you were actually responding to.
No, I would never think of doing that, since referring to our broad movement at all in a bugser post would offer a distraction I can’t imagine being appropriate under any circumstances!
I use the phrase in discussions here and on other white sites to refer to the whole white movement.
If you think THAT is a bad idea, I would really like to know! In the meantime I’m going to assume (until you tell me otherwise) that that is not what you intended to object to.
I’m assuming that like before we have just had a miscommunication, even about the other matter, the bugser experiment I want to resume of introducing the term “white” in some of my bugser posts in a natural way to mean “white and opposed to white genocide,” but you spoke so definitely against that above, whether that was your intention or not, that I don’t feel able to resume it without your stated permission again.
#26 by Jason on 08/23/2012 - 7:40 am
By the way, the only way I know to get guts in a situation, is to PRACTICE having guts. You have to move forward, in some small way, when you really don’t want to. Make it small and manageable in the beginning and more guts will come later.
So, maybe encouraging other people to start small, if they are timid, is a good start. If anyone else has any other ideas on how to acquire guts, I’d like to hear them – there may be better ways but I’ve never heard them.