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It Isn’t About Mysticism

Posted by Bob on August 19th, 2012 under Coaching Session


In response to my article on Zoroastrianism and St. Paul I got lots of responses about Mysticism and the other pseudosophisticated garbage.

They were so SMART!

The article showed how today’s white self-hatred can be traced back to an Aryan prophet twelve hundred years ago. In the degeneracy of Zoroastrianism we have a total substitute for centuries of tracing our self-hatred, the self-hatred that is killing us, not to tiny border kingdom in the Middle East, but to the same degenerated thinking of Aryans which we have today.

I find this in both of the Testaments we have spent two thousand years on, seeking our politics there.

Well, they ARE there, but you have to see what they really have to say, not remake them into tales that suit your purposes.

“Nobody is as funny as a dumb man who thinks he is smart.” — Oliver Hardy.

I do not want these funny people HERE.

Whenever anyone explains Buddhism or Christianity they make it a story people want to hear.

Actually, it is characteristic of Aryan thinkers that they would ask the basic question, “Is the average life, where there is every kind of pain and very, very few pleasures, worth living?”

By the time of Gautama Buddha, he and every other Aryan Indian knew the answer was No. Buddha’s entire teaching was dedicated to getting off of the Wheel of Life, the rebirth of each of us, forever, in one life after another.

No New Age Buddhist has any hint of this.

The Old Testament makes it very clear that the Jews got their new concept of THEIR God from Persia. Once again, Zoroaster answered the question, “Is this life worth living?” with a No. He dealt with it by a God of This World, an evil world, and the god of the next world, the good one.

This degenerated into total condemnation of every pleasure and even survival in this world. That is what we live with today, This little twist, not “mystical” at all, is the basis of our whole way of thinking today.

I HATE to see OUR commenters sounding like sophomores, “wise fools.”

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  1. #1 by Gavin on 08/19/2012 - 10:06 am

    Our race has a disease, self-hatred as a virtue is a VERY real phenomena within some of our people.

    I was commenting on a story about the Bank of Canada putting an Asian women on a banknote. I pointed out that no one is flooding China with White people and putting them on Chinese banknotes. It’s only majority White countries that are being flooded with non-Whites and put on our banknotes.

    These are the responses I received:

    “Considering that white people were the ones that invaded and pillaged the villages of the true natives of North America, it seems a bit unfair to call this a “white country.” This country IS for everybody because it was never ours in the first place.”

    Can you SEE the sick racial self-hatred?

    ..and this reply

    “As a guy who could be the poster-child for ‘Aryan’ (at well over 6′, blond, green eyed, and, if I say so myself, in awesome condition for middle age) I take exception.

    Disgust. That’s what your attitude evokes in me. The same disgust at self-importance and self-righteousness that was a big impetus to abandoning my small-minded small town – where virtually everybody looked a lot like me – but where so many harbored attitudes akin yours – a truly vile blend of ‘Christian Soldier and Shutzstaffel’. Crammed in the bus at rush hour I revel in the diversity – at good folk offering each other their precious seat most often wordlessly. At night when some embittered (usually young, usually white, usually male) drunk (familiar?) gets rude, I return the glances from my neighbors and shrug the shrug that says “His poor mother.”

    I live where I do because the proportion of those like you is shrinking here.”

    Do you see the sick self-hatred in this? The guy brags aout his White features then proceeds to lambaste other White people with an “attitude” he dislikes while fetishizing “diversity.”

    It’s this self-hatred, making a virtue of turning on your own kind that is the real threat to our race.

    http://business.financialpost.com/2012/08/17/bank-of-canada-bans-image-of-asian-woman-from-100-bill/

    • #2 by Gavin on 08/19/2012 - 10:57 am

      You have got to look past the words that these people write, whether what they say is true or not…and see the ATTITUDE of White self-hatred.

      I used to make the mistake of just trying to argue the points that a self-hating White person would make. They would say something bad about my race and I would argue whether it was true or not. Now I just look past all the words and all the facts and see the sickness of the underlying ATTITUDE that they have.

    • #3 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/19/2012 - 12:31 pm

      “As a guy who could be the poster-child for ‘Aryan’ (at well over 6′, blond, green eyed, and, if I say so myself, in awesome condition for middle age) I take exception.”

      Here’s the reply I would like to give this white anti-white, if Bob would once again give permission for at least a few of us to run the experiment of appropriating “white” to mean “white and opposing white genocide.” (Bob, I’m hoping very much that you will find time to respond to the questions I asked you in “Guts”, http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2012/08/17/guts/#comments ):

      “You can call yourself ‘Aryan,’ whatever that means to you, but you certainly are not white, since whites do not support white genocide.

      You are an anti-white who supports white genocide and that’s all you are.”

      On the one day another bugser and I ran this experiment, the two anti-whites we ran it on discovered within themselves a very deep attachment to their “whiteness,” an attachment that was very injured by our refusal to cede them the status of being “white.” Who would have guessed? (Well actually, I had guessed).

      I want to run this experiment of shoving “white” in the faces of the white anti-whites and of our target white audience by appropriating the term “white” to mean “white and opposed to white genocide”, to make these white anti-white freaks immerse themselves angrily in how white they are and thereby enliven our target audience’s sense that they themselves also are WHITE. (And there are other purposes that are explained in the many posts at the link below).

      But I won’t run the experiment without Bob’s permission, and he has apparently nixed it, though I’m not much more certain of that than I was on the other occasion on which some of you thought he’d nixed it and he hadn’t.

      I’m hoping that Bob will look at the posts the other bugser and I wrote the one day we ran the experiment, posts in which appear the angry replies of the anti-whites, and will either allow us to resume the experiment or will explicitly nix it:

      http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/topic/teaching-whites-to-say-whites/page/5/#post-28900

      And of course I’m also very interested in the opinion of anyone else who has taken a moment to look at those posts.

      • #4 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/19/2012 - 1:04 pm

        Bob, if you have in fact retracted your previous permission, which does seem to be the case, it would be very helpful to me if I could understand the reason for your reversal. Your statement below seemed to be the reason, but I don’t understand the statement in the present context:

        “The only way I can start with someone I know on the Mantra is to use the term “anti-white.”

        Are you saying that introducing the idea of “white” as “white and opposing white genocide” dilutes the effect of “anti-white”?

        I think that my proposed reply above in italics strengthens the term “anti-white,” but if you think the opposite, I’m certainly going to assume that you are more likely to be correct than I am!

      • #5 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/20/2012 - 10:56 am

        “And of course I’m also very interested in the opinion of anyone else who has taken a moment to look at those posts.”

        Sometimes I miss all my Jewish friends! I never had any problem getting an opinion about anything from THEM! Lol! :)

  2. #6 by BGLass on 08/19/2012 - 10:06 am

    I did get the main point, I think. What I was trying to say is that there has always also seemed to be a resistance.

    I thought the enlightenment, not the noble savage part, but the ‘man is good’ kind of thing, or at least he is NEUTRAL, as in the “tabula rasa” idea— and this was a reaction to all this hideous burden of self-sacrifice, self-abnegation, we are evil deep down, totally depraved, life is not worth living with all its pain, which has been so omnipresent.

    Creativity seem a similar reaction, (insofar as I understand it). Life is not worth living” is a ‘mainstream’ idea, however, and to not adhere to it, is a punishable thing we’re shown, (as evidenced by people who start talking like that and wind up locked up)

    Many people do not seem to understand self-abnegation is what they are REALLY saying. Like when a person talks about having kids and liberal parents start rambling about how they could adopt chinese, and this is as close as they can come to saying chinese will be more acceptable to them than brown “grand-children.” —It becomes just too many layers of sickness to even unpack, with young people having to have sick gross dinner table conversations like that, daily— where whites cannot even consider white babies, only other colors.

    To make that policy and a goal is genocide. The sickness has finally gone to the nth degree.

    It’s deeply terrifying for those who retained any will to life. Also, they cannot always “discuss” it, so it’s just a bad feeling, a feeling that things are bad here, are downward spiraling…

    And NOW some do not have children, not because of the public pressure to create a non-white world—- but because they see the overwhelming things their White kids would be up against.

    Also Gavin, the conditioning is deep. Your post made me think of a song they keep playing on country radios now… the chorus is “someday I’ll be living in a big old city, and all you’ll ever be is mean.” To one of those rehashed jingly tunes.

  3. #7 by Dick_Whitman on 08/19/2012 - 11:42 am

    What I wonder is whether we can really trace this thinking to Zoroaster or whether this thinking is just part of Aryan being?

    I supposed asking this question itself (is life worth living?) is an Aryan characteristic, but that the answer we’ve been accepting for so long has roots that go way back. If you follow the White rabbit and examine his sources you realize the possibility that these religions (Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroasterism) may have been controlled (even started) by our cosmic enemy. So it should be no surprise that the answer that was provided to the question (is life worth living) is “NO.”

    Meanwhile, while the masses are expected to follow these religions of death and servitude, our enemies follow spiritual systems that answer this question (is life worth living) as not only “yes,” but sanction them to rule the earth and transmute the “profane goyim” into bricks that fit in their pyramid wall (with our enemy at the top of the pyramid).

    It’s difficult to prove whether or not the enemy was controling (or started) these religions 2000-2500 years ago, but today they do obviously control most of the religions in the Western world.

    Today the newest religion pushed on the masses is Multiculturalism or Diversity and environmentalism mixed with the welfare/warfare state. Bob Whitaker calls this the religion of Political Correctness. This too is a religion for the masses, while the anti-White globalist elites follow their double top secret handshake spiritual systems that sanction them to rule the “profane goyim.”

    This is really ingenious. Provide the profane goyim masses with religions that dis-empowers them while they (the anti-White, globalist elites) follow spiritual systems that result in increased power and knowledge of the universe.

    This is one of the major reasons the anti-White, globalist elites hate (and fear) the Nazis so much. The Nazis were creating a spiritual system for Aryans that answered the question (is life worth living?) as JA!!!

    An astounding JA!

    JA!

  4. #8 by Daniel Genseric on 08/19/2012 - 12:29 pm

    This is SO simple, it isn’t even Funny.

    “IS life worth living?”

    Yeah. As long as you are white.

    • #9 by Dick_Whitman on 08/19/2012 - 1:28 pm

      That’s a little mean spirited, don’t you think? Non-Whites should value life just as much as Whites. Your comment reflects poorly on this website.

      It’s dishonorable to advocate life for Whites while suggesting that life for non-Whites in somehow less valuable. How can we expect non-Whites to respect our right to life when we don’t do the same for them?

      White people certainly don’t react positively to that kind of thinking. That’s how Jews think.

      It’s a disappointment that someone at BUGS could make such a comment. However, no one is beyond redemption. Early in my racial awakening I wrote and said things that I now regret. These were comments that did not come from a place of love.

      I suggest going to a quiet place and reflecting on what the source of this comment may be.

      • #10 by Daniel Genseric on 08/19/2012 - 2:31 pm

        Who are YOU to judge me?
        Who are YOU to say what is Honorable?
        Who are YOU to say what is True?
        Who are YOU to suggest my comments are not made from a place of love for MY race?

        Who are YOU other than a one “Dick Whitman?”

        I suggest you crawl into a dark hole and inhale your own cranial flatulence until you can no longer stand it or succumb to the fumes. What kind of taste does that leave in your mouth, DICK?

        • #11 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/19/2012 - 5:29 pm

          I don’t understand why we don’t have more bugsers. Certainly we seem like a group that anyone would want to join.

          • #12 by Daniel Genseric on 08/20/2012 - 10:54 am

            You are implying that I should just roll over while DICK sticks HIS Politically Correct opinion to me.

            Why is that? What a leftard way of looking at things. I don’t understand why BUGS doesn’t have more participation.

            • #13 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/20/2012 - 11:16 am

              If Dick’s post had been addressed to me, I would have been very irritated too by a couple of things in it.

              Let’s ALL of us be more considerate of each other, and realize that many of us may be more dependent on encouragement we get from the behavior of each other than we realize.

              The esprit de corps of you and some others here has remained high (Genseric, if your esprit de corps ever falters, I will indeed be seriously concerned!), but for some of the rest of us it has fallen a bit.

              More importantly, we need worse than anything more bugsers! The tone we exhibit…and I’m certainly often guilty myself…turns some prospects away…I know that for a fact.

              So I want to say to myself and to all of us what Bob says: “Be sociable”!

              We should all think of the effect our words have on each other, and on persons viewing our exchanges who might be considering joining us. There are agreeable ways of saying things, and disagreeable ways. I should have kept that in mind myself a couple of days ago and cooled off instead of replying to Bob in the heat of anger.

              • #14 by Daniel Genseric on 08/20/2012 - 1:16 pm

                “That’s a little mean spirited, don’t you think?” – D.W.

                Oh my word. That just reeks of someone who doesn’t effing get it. Or doesn’t WANT to. Don’t you THINK White genocide is “a little mean spirited?!”

                In case you were wondering, BUGS isn’t going to survive and thrive through recruiting and retaining flaccid proponents of “Do not offend, Love thy neighbor, We are the World,” PC bullshit. We don’t need MORE of that. We already have THAT.

                What part of “This is war” are we not comprehending?

                • #15 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/20/2012 - 1:54 pm

                  “What part of ‘This is war’ are we not comprehending?”

                  The part where we understand that our weapons are words and we keep those weapons polished and point them in the right direction.

                  Why don’t you leave this and help me with my freakin’ computer problems! :)

                  Here’s just one of many…on sites that require facebook, if I post, only I see my post, which for some strange reason posts my age beside my username (my first clue that something was wrong).

                  I would like to know how to start from scratch and form a facebook account that I could post with.

                  Yes, in theory I could hunt around through various tutorials and learn how myself, after smashing my desk into smithereens with frustration.

                  It would be so much more congenial to have a friendly, kind-hearted instructor like yourself, Genseric. I’m being wry, but you have in fact been the most helpful to me of anyone here with computer stuff.

                  If you wished, you could start a thread on computer problems for computerphobes like myself and answer my question there, and you and others that understand this new world could get some others like me (I know that others have had the same problem with their facebook posts not being visible to anyone but themselves) able to post more widely and efficiently.

                  Just an idea, if you’re up for it.

                  Our weapons are words, but most of the time our delivery system for those weapons is computers. That’s a real bottleneck for me.

                  You’re probably young enough that you’ll find the battle-hard soldiers you’re wishing for further down the line when things have gone much more to hell in everyone’s life. For right now, work with everyone we can get who will spread the Mantra in the ways it should be spread.

                  • #16 by Daniel Genseric on 08/20/2012 - 3:04 pm

                    “I would like to know how to start from scratch and form a facebook account that I could post with.”

                    “How To FakeBook It”
                    1) Register a NEW gmail
                    2) Make up a Fake Facebook account (i.e. Harold McDumpty)
                    3) Link the two by registering with the new gmail
                    4) Go nuts…

                    Edit: Should that FAIL, renew your IP address and start over at step 1.

  5. #17 by Dave on 08/19/2012 - 12:40 pm

    It is not about a “way of thinking”. It is about corruption.

    In any society where those issuing commands lack good will and respect for those they command, everything immediately deteriorates into ideology and justification.

    IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT THE JUSTIFICATION AND IDEOLOGY ARE. What matters is that justification and ideology rise from the self-dealing of those issuing commands. The Laurel and Hardy fools are the one that BELIEVE in the justification and ideology that substitute for camaraderie.

    Camaraderie is a spirit of good friendship and loyalty among members of a group and goodwill and lighthearted rapport between or among friends.

    A hierarchy of command is either in accord or it is not. It is either based on camaraderie or it is not.

    Where those issuing commands in fact respect and have goodwill toward those they command, there can be no self-dealing. Where there is self-dealing, the society that is represented by the hierarchy of command immediately implodes. There is no ability to coordinate because no communal effort can self-organize under such conditions.

    Every white society that exists today has imploded. The hierarchy of command in every white society is utterly corrupt and engaged in self-dealing.

    This is why NATO will go down to defeat to the Jihadists. All of the Mid-East and Islamic Far East will succumb to the Jihadists. The Horn of Africa, North Africa, and West Africa will succumb to the Jihadists. This is not prophecy, it is solid PREDICITION based on sound causal factors. The Jihadists communally self-organize. They are under a hierarchy of command that has goodwill and respect for those they command. No such thing exists in Europe or the Anglo-Saxon countries.

    The West is all ideology, intellectualism, and bullshit justification. The (ordinary people of the) Islamic East are all about “get ‘er done” and respect for the man next to you.

    The irony is this presents no threat whatsoever to pro-whites.

  6. #18 by Jason on 08/19/2012 - 6:35 pm

    We Whites have a biological tendency to question the nature of all things, including the value of living. That is a fact. We need religions and/or belief systems that provide answers that let us keep living in a healthy, vigorous manner. At least that’s my take.

    If someone doesn’t value the experience of life, he certainly isn’t going to be a fierce defender of our race. There is a certain comfort other species (and even other races) have in that they never question the point of life. My old dog never did. They aren’t capable of it. Our insight as White men, which allows us to break free of thousands of years of tradition, and question and revise everything (to our glory), can set its sights on life itself, and if handled poorly, lead to disaster.

    Maybe this is the value of a good religion or belief system: It provides a terminus, a place to stop questioning eternal existential questions, and instead focus on living.

  7. #19 by Epiphany on 08/20/2012 - 5:58 am

    The Powers That Be, only want us to feel patriotic about certain wars but not others. Though they do not allow us to express patriotism about the conflict in Vietnam, they do compel us to feel patriotic about the Second World War, The Civil War, and the American Revolutionary War.
    This is most interesting to me!

  8. #20 by Dick_Whitman on 08/20/2012 - 5:31 pm

    Daniel Genseric

    Despite your past of being unreasonably combative, irrational, and smearing accomplished pro-Whites (like Don Black), I thought I’d take the time to help you think less like a Jew (since you do take the time to post the mantra more than most).

    But then you replied to me like a petulant 13 year old girl who didn’t like the color of her balloons at her Bar Mitzvah.

    So I’m done trying to help you. Your personality, reading comprehension, and critical thinking skills are defective beyond helping.

    • #21 by Daniel Genseric on 08/20/2012 - 10:15 pm

      Actually, Richard. You are confused again. Tell us, what is it like to go through life while being completely confused about everything?

      You keep proving you couldn’t THINK your way out of a wet paper bag with your constant Big Brain bloviating. My criticism of Don Black was NOT a criticism of Don Black beyond one personal misunderstanding which you don’t understand and his lack of time to moderate his own moderators. Perhaps that escaped your Supreme Intellect and your Reading Comprehension. It is YOU who are attempting to defame ME because you got called on the carpet with your “Let’s make sure the enemy gets Lots of Hugs and Do Not Offend” PC bullshit. Truth hurts don’t it, DICK?

      I noticed you would rather talk about Don than answer my questions. Or maybe your critical thinking capabilities and reading comprehension come up short there as well. Sadly, there’s no Viagra for impotent thought processes. Is your neck stiff yet, DICK? I’ll give you another shot just in case, Bright One:

      Who are YOU to judge me?
      Who are YOU to say what is Honorable?
      Who are YOU to say what is True?
      Who are YOU to suggest my comments are not made from a place of love for MY race?

      Who are YOU to push your Wisdom, Tolerance & Love on us, “Dick UNDERSCORE Whitman?” Hell, everything about you is underachieving.

      I suggest you crawl back into the dark hole from whence you came and inhale your own cranial flatulence until you can no longer stand it or succumb to the fumes. What kind of taste does that leave in your mouth, DICK?

  9. #22 by Harumphty Dumpty on 08/20/2012 - 6:10 pm

    I hope Genseric will rise to his scathingly wittiest best when he fires back…if we’re going to have fights in the barracks, they may as well be fights worth watching.

    So far the referees have you ahead in points, but on occasion I’ve seen Genseric be as rolling-on-the-floor hilariously and scathingly witty as anyone I’ve ever read, so I’m not counting him out despite his poor start.

  10. #23 by Jason on 08/21/2012 - 1:34 am

    Daniel Genseric :
    This is SO simple, it isn’t even Funny.
    “IS life worth living?”
    Yeah. As long as you are white.

    I don’t think that is the point of the article. I don’t think Bob is asking whose life is worth living, rather the question is, why is it ONLY Whites who ever ask this kind of question. And have the anti-life answers most of our religions have put forward, hurt us. We don’t see Africans, Asians or Mestizos fretting over such an issue, going for back thousands of years. Yet Whites do all the time.

    Doesn’t it pick an unnecessary fight, and create a distraction, if we get off into saying only White people are worthy of life? I don’t mean we need to champion their lives, I’m saying, what is the point of stating life is literally not worth living if you are born Asian?

    • #24 by Daniel Genseric on 08/21/2012 - 8:30 am

      “…what is the point of stating life is literally not worth living if you are born Asian?” – Jason

      Why are you twisting my words? I never said that. I would expect better from you, Jason. There is no subtext to what I said.

      I SAID “Life is worth living if you are white.”

      I have ONLY ever been White. To me, being white is enough to make life worth living. Our common struggle, our ability to question unites us and it actually DEFINES us as that is precisely WHY we ask the question. We shall overcome.

      F-O-C-U-S

      • #25 by Jason on 08/21/2012 - 9:13 am

        OK, When you said, “as long as you are White”, life is worth living, it sounded like only a White person would have a life worth living.

        I suspect that is how it struck others, not just me. But if you didn’t mean it that way, then you have clarified it. I am not trying to twist your words, I am sincerely trying understand what you meant. And we can all learn that our words don’t always communicate quite what we intended. It happens to me.

        If you are just saying, from the viewpoint of a White individual (you), life sure seems worth living, then I can see that.

        • #26 by Daniel Genseric on 08/21/2012 - 10:20 am

          Yes. That is the essence of what I said.

          I speak for myself and possibly certain other people of my race at times, but NEVER for non-whites.

          Like I said, it is SO simple that it’s not even funny. Yet, 2000 words later here we are at the very same statement I made in the beginning.

          Life is worth living, my white brothers and sisters! WHY? Because you are WHITE. Deal with it.

          Edit: It’s killing ME. I feel I have to point out the bleedingly obvious now. I would HATE for anyone to have missed the point. Everyone agrees that “Whites have the innate ability to ASK the question of whether or not life is worth living.” Subsequently, using that logic, I pointed out something ONLY WHITES WOULD UNDERSTAND and Dick gets all nutty. HAHAha! Seems like someone doesn’t want European Americans and Europeans to REALIZE that life is worth living.

          And my integrity is called into question?

          F-O-C-U-S

  11. #27 by Dick_Whitman on 08/21/2012 - 5:17 pm

    “I suggest you crawl back into the dark hole from whence you came and inhale your own cranial flatulence until you can no longer stand it or succumb to the fumes. What kind of taste does that leave in your mouth, DICK?” (Daniel Genseric)

    Which chapter of the Talmud is this from?

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