I would give a hundred usual comments for one commenter who mentioned the similarity of the Mantra to Occam’s Razor. I appreciate the usual stuff, but it is once in a coon’s age that they have any relevance to the important points that only I make.
Occam’s Razor was dynamite in its day. Like wordism today, scholasticism went nuts and beyond during the so-called Renaissance. Scholars spent all their time quoting Latin and Greek and arguing over nonsense into which “How many angels can stand on the point of a pin?” would have fitted nicely.
The so-called Renaissance damned near crippled Western thought, which had already proceeded into Calculus while professional scholars gloried in the ancient invention of geometry.
To put it simply, the descendents of Germans and Vikings naturally concerned themselves with what WORKED, while scholars only worry was whether Aristotle agreed with them, or, better, to prove that that was what Aristotle actually meant in some obscure quote.
The history of Western medicine is the agonizingly slow transition from doing everything in Greek to learning to disinfect, which Medieval medicine was doing with wine before Great Educators got there.
Does it work or does it sound Educated? That is the real, undiscussed history of science.
The difference between old scholasticism and that with which Occam’s Razor sided is exactly the same as the simple distinction between science and magic: Is it glitter and show, or does it WORK.
The Mantra takes a straight look at the world and says what is really going on. The same shouts of ignorance and anti-intellectualism used against it met Occam’s Razor in earlier times.
#1 by Sentinel on 02/26/2013 - 8:13 am
”Does it work or does it sound educated?”
This should be the first question that every pro-White asks before speaking or writing.
We do what works!
#2 by jo3w on 02/26/2013 - 7:10 pm
I’m glad of your confidence that our approach works. The best I can say is that I think it works, but unfortunately I am lacking definitive evidence. I hate to point it out, but I do my bit here faithfully. What I mean by that is that I have faith that it works; I have no proof that what I am doing is the thing that is shifting public opinion. What we do here is a rational solution to a problem; scientifically testing it’s effectiveness is very difficult, and I have not been made privy to any supporting data. I also do it because it’s fun. Joe
#3 by Dave on 02/26/2013 - 10:27 am
Here’s Occams’s Razor:
“They didn’t build it.”
“The English language is MY people’s indigenous tongue, not theirs!”
“There is nothing nonwhite about them except the color of their skin and their lack of capability.”
#4 by JustAWhiteMom on 02/26/2013 - 10:35 am
It is infuriating when people attack the mantra with nothing more to back it up than their hunch about what “should work.”
#5 by mandela on 02/26/2013 - 1:34 pm
JMom, just remember some Eastern Wisdom I have found ever useful in the pro White movement.
Confucious say – man who say something can not be done must get out of way of man doing it.
#6 by JustAWhiteMom on 02/26/2013 - 3:18 pm
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white!
http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/02/equality-a-justification-of-privilege-oppression-and-inhumanity/#comments
“Nevertheless, observation confirms that the rule is not applied uniformly: the charge of “racism” is much more dehumanizing for Whites than it is for others. A Black man in the West can engage in blatantly racist behavior without having his humanity questioned. On the other hand, a White man in the West is held to a much more rigorous standard: it takes much less for him to be labelled “racist” and the effects of the label are for him much more severe.”
Mantra thinking is becoming ever more pervasive among our intellectuals.
#7 by Jason on 02/26/2013 - 5:14 pm
I’m going to urge caution on that site. C-C should be way more advanced than that. What they said there could be heard on Fox News. They should spend some of that $25K they recently raised and buy Bob’s book.
C-C is the opposite of the Mantra. They go in for long winded pseudo-intellectual material. They are trying to sell their own form of Wordism called “the New Right” or “Traditionalism”.
The writers there take a negative view of the Mantra. Now, I criticized some of their articles a while back (especially one that veered off into saying the White Man had been wrong for being so “rapacious” and “imperial” in our treatment of other people in the past).
So they banned me. Maybe I have a grudge, but I think the facts back me up. Of course, you can find articles of value anywhere, but I wouldn’t call them Mantra-fied.
#8 by Simmons on 02/27/2013 - 7:48 am
I was booted as well, no big deal, but we have them hemmed in and Johnson doesn’t know it yet. He wrote the usual semi-respectable love letter about his “liberal” friends, how wonderful they are and how sweet they are and blah, blah, blah.
Well I’m Mantra trained and I listen for the silence, and this informs me that I want to ask one question of Greg Johnson, “Are your liberal friends anti-white?” We can ask his contributors if Johnson’s friends are anti-white as well, so we are not limited to just waiting for johnson to leave his little wordist cult ghetto.
FTR I could care less about johnson, don’t wish him harm, but he is usable in the sense that the semis can be trained and thruout our wordist blogosphere he can used as an example that all the other semis will have to answer, “are your liberal friends anti-white?”
Did I mention they also have to fund raise?
#9 by Harumphty Dumpty on 02/26/2013 - 4:59 pm
Two great blogs by Bob on Occam’s Razor:
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2011/04/25/occam-said-“keep-it-simple”/
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2007/01/08/jews-occams-razor-and-mantra-thinking/
And these:
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2007/06/30/whitaker-thinking/
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2011/02/16/if-you-don’t-use-the-mantra-you-discredit-it/
This is an enjoyably readable account of Occam’s Razor:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/occam.html
#10 by Harumphty Dumpty on 02/26/2013 - 5:24 pm
A couple of times I’ve tried to read a few paragraphs of today’s academic “critical race theory,” I guess it was, and I was dumbfounded that such an elaborate structure had been given to such a pile of garbage. Today’s blog by Bob and his two blogs at the top links I just gave give me perspective on that.
Imagine parents paying so many thousands of dollars so their kids can go off to college and learn exactly how many angels can dance on the head of a pin and learn the body of theory that backs it up.
Their kids could learn the Mantra for free!
#11 by Jason on 02/26/2013 - 6:10 pm
There can be another reason for getting away from Occam’s Razor: trying to make someone see an obvious truth, which they are refusing to see. Bob has mentioned the experience of having people look at him like he had a petunia growing from his forehead, when he said something unfashionable. We’ve all had that. An instinct can kick in to start hammering the person with arguments in new and varied ways.
I used to have people get exasperated at me for droning on, when clearly what I was saying contradicted what the Teacher had just told us. Gosh, was I ignorant?
If we find ourselves marshaling massive amounts of evidence and citations to prove some point, we are probably wasting our time. If a person isn’t impressed by the simple, obvious, observable truth, he won’t be impressed when you make it 1000 times longer and more nuanced.
That’s because his real problem is that what you are saying contradicts what his Mommy Professor told him.
#12 by Simmons on 02/27/2013 - 7:52 am
Our wordists are trained by mommy prof and they refuse to leave the classroom, and they especially refuse to be anything but betas.
Mantra thought is used by people who want and demand shear dominance, not beta bitching.