Nick Griffin’s speech was GENIUS.
But it contains one deviation from our message and one absolute violation.
His use of Zionist Supremacists as part of the “unholy coalition” was something I would not have done. But I am a staffer and Nick is up there in front.
That was a minor violation of our rule, but when he said, “The Final Solution to the White CHRISTIAN problem…” that was pure hijacking.
I wrote an article about James Edwards constantly trying to hijack us into “conservatism.”
Listen, gang, the ONLY reason we are getting new attention is because we absolutely stick to BEING WHITE PEOPLE and ONLY WHITE PEOPLE.
There have been White Christian Movements out there for decades.
They lost.
There have been people whose obsession was with Jews.
They are on history’s garbage dump.
The largest genocide in human history is being carried out against THE WHITE RACE. Anyone who throws in “Christian” or “conservative” or “Jews” is old, old, OLD, OLD news.
We must NAME Hijacking.
We must see every HINT of hijacking.
If our momentum is stopped, it will be because we allowed ourselves to be sidetracked into one of the old, garbage-canned grooves.
HIJACKING IS FATAL!
#1 by seapea on 03/16/2014 - 5:57 am
Wasn’t this one of the issues we’ve tried tackled in the past? I mean our ability to control the purity of the message once it got out there. If my memory is correct, the general consensus was that it was going to be damn damn damn hard, maybe impossible. If we are seriously going to try to address the purity issue, we should probably start discussing realistic goals and strategies. Assuming we can come up with any.
#2 by Lord Nelson on 03/16/2014 - 6:05 am
I noticed that too. The Christian twist along with the mention of Zionists was a shame. Of course it should be “The final solution to the White problem”.
But the general wording was so close it proves we are getting through and being heard.
We are on the map. So now we must make sure we do not get sucked in to the old guard and their failed ways from the past.
Multiculturalism is a genocidal SCAM!
#3 by Lord Nelson on 03/16/2014 - 6:30 am
Further to my comment above. If I had to sum up the difference between us an the other Pro-Whites, I would say that BUGS is the only game in town that actually SHOOTS BACK!
While the rest spent decades trying to justify our right to exist with Black Crime Stats, White IQ Scores, Naming Joos and Our Beautiful White Race. We were the only ones to go on the attack and actually point to the CRIME being committed.
Other Pro-Whites act like a person who complains to the police that the guy who stole their money at gunpoint has a bad credit history.
#4 by Patrick WhiteRabbit on 03/16/2014 - 9:19 am
Great to see you posting again Lord Nelson!
I too noticed Griffin’s additions and felt like he was setting himself up for a tailgating session.
Good work though. Much better than the Duksters “ladies and gentlemen we are for ‘uman Freedom and against the Ziomedia” rhetoric.
#5 by Mike M on 03/16/2014 - 6:36 am
“Wasn’t this one of the issues we’ve tried tackled in the past? I mean our ability to control the purity of the message once it got out there. If my memory is correct, the general consensus was that it was going to be damn damn damn hard, maybe impossible”
That’s the reason why I wonder if it would be possible to create a political entity who will make sure our message is heard, and that it’s not being altered/hijacked. For example in France, anti white racism has been brought up by Front national, but they don’t speak of genocide and furthermore they have a lot of diversity in their ranks. I find the mantra so powerful, I think we should not trust politicians with it.
#6 by Yankee Rebel on 03/16/2014 - 7:22 am
It is to be expected that others will hijack our ideas for their own purposes. Our enemies will attempt to infiltrate and change our message in order to defeat us using the OLD ways.We must continue to provide the undiluted truth until we win.
#7 by Asgardian on 03/16/2014 - 8:53 am
Bob mentioned a while back that people will use our general outline but add a TWIST to it…their own spin so to say…and that’s ok we just need to stay the course, because all roads lead back to the original talking points. The video wasn’t all that bad with the exception of two comments. It wasn’t bad overall, but it seemed to have some personal opinions interjected into it. That is to be expected. There is NOTHING we can do about that. Our job is to not point out WHO is laying the eggs…but to point out the eggs themselves and let them find out who is laying them.
#8 by Bob on 03/16/2014 - 9:33 am
It IS our job to point out these hijackings!
To say that “Christians” are being genocided is a damned lie, and WE HAVE NO LOYALTY TO ANY WORDISM.
And Rome has been pushing this assimilatin crap for centuries.
Chrisianity is only loyal to itself.
NO TAILGATING!
NO HIJACKING!
#9 by Undercover Lover on 03/16/2014 - 9:56 am
So just to confirm, “hijacking” is when a group is trying to “hijack” pro-white energy to serve their cause?
I was also impressed with Nick Griffin’s speech and twinged at the “Christian European” and “Zionist parts.”
One other thing was at the end when he said “…and it will be you in the docks”
I thought we were trying to avoid threatening them or is this different because these people actually ARE responsible?
#10 by Jason on 03/16/2014 - 10:38 am
I have a similar question about the docks comment (on the other thread). In this context, it seemed to work, but we have to use a lot of self-discipline or our side goes off into fun tribunal talk.
#11 by SixGun on 03/16/2014 - 1:45 pm
I popped over after watching Nick Griffin’s video.
The BNP has run a campaign where a large element is focused on the Islamification of Europe.
His mention of European Christians is aimed at the Islamification of Europe.
When you dig down through the false history and controlled media lies you discover much that is not talked about here. We end up with the cabal of Zionist bankers that are the Corporation of the City of London which has title to America and owns the Federal Reserve Bank and the Federal corporation of THE UNITED STATES.
The European Union is about the NWO and one world government. It is about the destruction of nationalism.
The destruction of the White tribes is not a random event, the purpose is to destroy nations to better subjugate the people. When I hear bugs say “they” want more diversity, “they” want integration, the “they” was the very people Nick Griffin mentions at the beginning of his video.
#12 by Daniel Genseric on 03/17/2014 - 11:13 am
In so doing, you rob the audience of the opportunity to hold the con men accountable.
By saying, “IT’S THE JEWS, dummy…” you let WHITE anti-whites off the hook. No way. Not this time.
Money punishment will apply to ALL anti-whites and their posterity in perpetuity.
#13 by Secret Squirrel on 03/17/2014 - 11:59 am
To strong-arm a population into Genocide, you must have a large number betraying for the money, or betraying for a “Universal Truth” they believe in.
I told the White anti-Whites I know, I want a country for Pro Whites. One that EXCLUDES THEM and they were surprised by that.
After all the crap they have pulled in the past and continue to pull in the present, they still expect someone like ME to vouch for them! Can you believe that? LOL
#14 by Asgardian on 03/16/2014 - 10:48 am
There are tons of non white “European christians” they are not under the threat of genocide. To say that European Christians are under the threat of genocide is a no no. Being Christian does NOT make you White…it makes you a Christian. So to say that European Christians are under the threat of Genocide Is actually a gross miss representation of what is happening to White People.
And I hate to say that because when you cut through the excitement of seeing someone of griffins political stature up there sounding like US it is a let down…it truly is but it needs to be said.
This video as good as it may sound…does us NO GOOD.
I didn’t wanna write this as I was writing it but felt that I had to. It’s a bummer but one we can’t ignore.
#15 by SixGun on 03/16/2014 - 6:00 pm
There are non Whites in England who have a British passport. They say they are British but they can never ever be English even if they were born in England.
Are there any Europeans who are non-White?
I am an indigenous European but I actually struggle to accept that b/c I am a dyed in the wool Nationalist. It is my belief that all Europeans are of the White tribes. The rest are all foreigners. There are no exceptions.
We instinctively know what Nick Griffin means and this video did us in Europe a lot of good.
When you listen to the speech as a whole, listen to it in context, it is self evident what is being said.
He says Christian b/c it represents indigenous European culture, it is the antithesis of the Islamification of Europe.
This may not make total sense in other parts of the world but it does to the English ear.
Remember the leftist rat from Portugal called him names like racist, whatever that means, so he must have been speaking the truth.
#16 by Asgardian on 03/16/2014 - 6:32 pm
Welllllll I don’t live in the UK so maybe it is interpreted in the way you say it is…and if so that is a good thing.
I belive the only europeans are white…I don’t believe white people can be asians lol.
#17 by Daniel Genseric on 03/16/2014 - 11:07 am
Since we are on hijacking, I should add that this #WhiteManMarch video doesn’t do us any good either. Now, does it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3bixwdwgG8
#18 by Asgardian on 03/16/2014 - 11:12 am
Daniel maybe I missed some part that you saw that I didnt, I’m not quite sure where the hijacking comes in. But ur usually spot on I’ll re watch it.
#19 by Daniel Genseric on 03/16/2014 - 11:33 am
The White Man March was a step, but its sponsor failed ….right about….here:
http://youtu.be/o3bixwdwgG8?t=5m28s
Notice the Judeo symbolism, pictures and the “cabal” comments. Notice Bob’s comments above?
“…His use of Zionist Supremacists as part of the “unholy coalition” was something I would not have done…Anyone who throws in “Christian” or “conservative” or “Jews” is old, old, OLD, OLD news.” – THE Bob
And….Hijacked.
#20 by Mimmy Jarr on 03/16/2014 - 11:12 am
How am I doing here?
http://s1038.photobucket.com/user/seapeaMP/media/WMM/MVI_4037_zpsa4ef3e82.mp4.html
#21 by Daniel Genseric on 03/16/2014 - 11:49 am
Fantastic!
No signs of hijacking anywhere. Yesterday I had to answer with “If Diversity is NOT a code word for white genocide, then explain white flight.”
(crickets)
#22 by Jason on 03/16/2014 - 1:18 pm
Somebody had a good line: If RACE isn’t real, why is diversity important?
(What exactly is being diversified).
#23 by shari on 03/16/2014 - 11:23 am
I think the point is, while Griffin’s speech was somewhat mantra, and that is good, don’t be completely excited about it and taken in. There are ways and ways to be hijacked. Pay close attention and don’t be hijacked yourselves.
#24 by Bob on 03/16/2014 - 12:22 pm
White MAN’s March was a hijack.
White people come in two sexes, depend heavily on SysOps and MinnyErva and others.
White Man March is out of the 30s. It is not an error a BUGSER would make.
#25 by seapea on 03/16/2014 - 1:47 pm
Kyle’s interview with Vice.com he addressed the “Man” in White Man March.
http://www.vice.com/read/the-white-man-march-interview
#26 by Daniel Genseric on 03/16/2014 - 3:18 pm
Yeppers. We got ‘D.B. Cooper-ed’ in grand fashion.
#STANDAgainstWhiteGenocide #MarchAgainstWhiteGenocide. He could have asked. He should have listened.
We will learn from these prior mistakes and continuously improve not only our efficiency, but the clarity of our message as well.
Pssst…Bob…you forgot Judy. 😉
#27 by Mimmy Jarr on 03/16/2014 - 12:27 pm
Whoops.
#28 by Mimmy Jarr on 03/16/2014 - 12:35 pm
I’ll be discussing this stuff with Paul Hickman on Voice of Albion at 2:00PM Eastern Time.
http://thewhitenetwork.com/voice-of-albion/
#29 by Henry Davenport on 03/16/2014 - 1:22 pm
Jimmy, here’s some first thoughts on something I’m writing that was provoked by Kyle’s statements on Tom Hartman’s show, if any of it is of any help. (No, I’m not going to call in. For one thing, I can’t afford the cost of the sitting and waiting):
Don’t flush your Message down the toilet!
When you say “jew,” you flush your White Genocide message down the toilet.
Is there even one single person reading this who does not know exactly how a mainstream White audience reacts when an advocate for Whites says “jew”?
And do you think that audience hears a single thing you say afterward, even on your topic of jews?
Yes, they do hear vaguely what you say on the topic of jews, and it confirms what they knew the moment you said “jew”: you are a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
This is what your audience hears: “I advocate for Whites and I’m an evil-racist-nazi-who-wants-to-clone-Hitler-and-kill-six-million-jews.”
Way to go, you just did primo work for the anti-whites.
Instead of occupying the richest, most fertile territory there is, “Anti-whites are carrying out White Genocide in ALL White countries and ONLY White countries,” instead you flung yourself against the heavy artillery of a massive anti-white fortress that anti-whites have built on territory they seized and occupied and fortified decades ago.
Keep doing it your way, and then look back on the results 5 years from now: the White Genocide message will have become “the Jew message”, and you will be getting your butts kicked on that topic just like you always have!
When you say “jew,” everything you say after that translates simply as, “I’m a white advocate who wants to kill six million jews,” and your message goes down the toilet.
#30 by Henry Davenport on 03/16/2014 - 1:46 pm
If anyone who has free long distance calling likes what I just wrote, they could call into the show Jimmy is going to be on and just read it.
#31 by Mike M on 03/16/2014 - 1:10 pm
“White MAN’s March was a hijack.
White people come in two sexes, depend heavily on SysOps and MinnyErva and others.
White Man March is out of the 30s. It is not an error a BUGSER would make” I’m sorry. I didn’t really got what Bob said. Could someone be kind enough to explain it to me please ?
#32 by Mimmy Jarr on 03/16/2014 - 1:21 pm
The hijack is the restriction of the identity of the group we wish to preserve to only its male members.
We’re not fighting gendercide.
#33 by Mike M on 03/16/2014 - 1:42 pm
Thank you sir :). But then who hijacked the white man march ?
#34 by Henry Davenport on 03/16/2014 - 1:47 pm
It was hijacked by the force of habit.
#35 by Daniel Genseric on 03/16/2014 - 3:20 pm
“We’re not fighting gendercide.”
Scary succinct, Jimmy. I’m actually jealous.
#36 by mandela on 03/16/2014 - 1:50 pm
There are a lot of negative comments here. It looks like stormfront. WMM was a huge event, I spent hours in a storm putting up signs and it was the number one twitter for Gods sake! Kyle was heroic.
Griffin said Zionist, not Jew, and saying White Christian was fine to do one time. It was our greatest weekend yet. We don’t need to be keyboard warriors bitching about it. Griffin was heroic
#37 by seapea on 03/16/2014 - 2:06 pm
Indeed, yesterday was a good day!
My thanks to all who participated. The twitter warriors were hilarious.
#38 by Henry Davenport on 03/16/2014 - 2:59 pm
I sincerely have a huge respect for Kyle and for what he’s done, and I intend to say so in any venue where I post what I wrote above. The WMM seems to have been a great success, and I greatly admire and appreciate all of you who made it so and who participated!
But the linking of the WMM to Jews in Kyle’s remarks on the Tom Hartman show….I’ve only listened to part of it so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaXUKBy6UbQ&feature=player_embedded#at=42
That’s a mistake we need to speak to and try to correct, lest as I wrote above, the White Genocide message begins to become “the Jew message.” The pressure of force of habit, practice, and belief on the part of pro-whites to turn ANYthing and EVERYthing into “the Jew message” is going to do its damnedest to turn the White Genocide message into the jew message in the months and years ahead, now that pro-whites are being attracted to the easier-to-grasp parts of the Mantra content and approach.
Possibly at some point it may no longer be execrable timing to say “Jews,” but certainly the audiences we’re appealing to today are not at that point.
My remarks above are in response to Kyle’s remarks on the Hartman show. I don’t know the situation in Britain and Europe and will follow what Bob thinks best concerning Griffin’s remarks. I doubt very much that popular attitudes towards Jews in Britain and Europe can be that much different from what they are here. “Zionist supremacism” would certainly not fly with the white masses in the U.S. at this time…it would be regarded as just a nasty, sly, and silly attempt by the real supremacists, WHITE supremacists, to say, nah nah, YOU are the “supremacists.”
I’ll admit I don’t fully feel Bob’s objection to using the word “Man” in the title of our recent event, but if the usual happens, I will get it later (days later), after it sinks in. To pro-White women, it may be no big deal, “Man” just being taken to have the genderless meaning it used to have in genderless contexts, or men given a certain precedence in such affairs anyway, but maybe for the women in our audiences…I don’t know.
Re “bitching”: yeah, as far as my own remarks, it’s maybe coming through that I’m feeling “bitchy” because I didn’t feel able to do as much yesterday as I would have liked to, but also, I always really do feel upset when this “jew” stuff gets hooked onto bugs stuff. I apologize for my own contribution to breaking into the good feeling that a lot of you deserve to have today without it being assaulted by negative feelings!
#39 by Mike M on 03/16/2014 - 3:40 pm
” I doubt very much that popular attitudes towards Jews in Britain and Europe can be that much different from what they are here”
In France, people like Dieudonné and Alain Soral have beend oing a good job at pointing out the scam of international banksters, double standards with jews etc, but their main audience is made of white idiots, blacks and arabic muslims, so they are pro islam and pro “friendship” between the races.
You’ve also got in the nationalists two sides. The one who know who’s to blame, and the other one who refuse to see the truth.
when it comes to the masses, I think that it’s like America. My grand ma is quite smart and open minded, but whenever I talk abut the juice. It’s done, she gones into “I don’t want to hear anything about that. You’re wrong blabla”. And most white people are like her in France. Muslims, blacks or arabics are naturally anti-semitic.
#40 by Daniel Genseric on 03/16/2014 - 3:22 pm
Worry about your image out there.
We get down and dirty with the nitty gritty in the war room.
You always lose with News & Jews.
#41 by Henry Davenport on 03/16/2014 - 3:38 pm
Good on you, Mandela! Thinking of your day yesterday, and the exhilaration you must feel at the day’s success and your participation in it, I feel doubly bad for my own remarks here, but I have to stick by their content.
Congratulations, and thanks for a fine job!
#42 by Horus on 03/16/2014 - 2:33 pm
Bob is a coach. Coaches make these type of comments. Bob tends to be the most caustic and cautious…. when we are winning. He tends to toss a chair or two like Bobby Knight. But he is a winner. And winners can be intense.
Kyle did a lot of work. So did many others to make this a success. And it was a success. More people were exposed to the Mantra than ever. Thank gawd we took to twitter so big a few months back. Kyle’s play on the words “March”. Plus the fact that the phrase White Man March itself sounded like something that came right out the failed ProWhite politics of the early 80’s or something. LOL. There were so many taken by surprise by the radical memes and the fact that there was no actual March. They are so used to stereotypes. They were confused and perplexed at this twitter phenom. I kept getting direct tweets thinking it was some brilliant comedy skit for a tv station. They had no other response but to drive a hashtag on twitter……..the media spun it accordingly. They kept their choice quotes running. “Twitter hashtag making fun of Kyle’s White Man March.” At the same time, we were pushing both hastags. #WhiteManmarch and #WhiteManMarchProtestSigns
I have come to the conclusion if Kyle would not have cooked up that pun phrase “White Man March”. This thing would not have sounded stereotypical enough for the typical twitter White Anti-White to bite the hook and run with the bait. This is about the only time being tied to the past worked to our Mantra favor. I don’t think this will ever work again. Too many legitimate questions are being asked. And our online campaign was too damn successful.
Tailgating and Hijacking are always going to be a challenge. Getting off message is very easy. Especially when ProWhites want to appeal to other ProWhites (peer group) and not all Whites. Preaching to the choir and preaching to the masses. That is a struggle in any dissident group. They tend to worry about how they may look or sound to their peer group. And that is a always a recipe for being ineffective. You can’t really care about how you look to your peers. Worship success and that means doing what works.
These are just my first thoughts/impressions. I am worn out. But since as I was sitting in the eye of the hurricane seeing all the direct tweets coming to @eurorabbit. And guess what ….the pics are still coming in.
#43 by Henry Davenport on 03/16/2014 - 3:14 pm
I always love reading what you write. It seems to me that your remarks about the name of the “March” have to be the correct morning-after analysis, but I’ll keep my mind open just in case.
I’m very intrigued by this (the part in bold), if you feel like saying more. I believe I understand what you mean, but…
This is about the only time being tied to the past worked to our Mantra favor. I don’t think this will ever work again. Too many legitimate questions are being asked. And our online campaign was too damn successful.
#44 by Daniel Genseric on 03/16/2014 - 3:32 pm
There are no “correct analyses”, only salty veterans and seasoned opinions.
H is referencing the million man march. Consider this, what would the impact have been if the already 633k+ google hits had the hash tag #MarchAgainstWhiteGenocide instead of #WhiteManMarch?
Always the message, never the messenger.
#45 by Henry Davenport on 03/16/2014 - 3:52 pm
#MarchAgainstWhiteGenocide
Great point, and if Kyle keeps developing in the direction he’s started (he’s only recently begun to soak up any Mantra, I believe), that’s what he’ll call it next year.
Like Horus said, “White Man March” worked well this year, but it probably won’t work again.
I’m out of here! Thanks to everyone who made yesterday happen! 🙂
#46 by Henry Davenport on 03/16/2014 - 4:01 pm
But before I leave, I have to say that I rejoice to see Bob being a hard-ass on these matters. The thing I fret most about is our approach becoming weakened by being distorted.
The pressures that will more and more tend to make that happen are ENORMOUS!!
#47 by Asgardian on 03/16/2014 - 3:08 pm
Of ALL the things that people are saying about the white man march….jews are not one of them.
This was a success….it has spread to NYC…The grand central station of AWM.
#48 by mandela on 03/16/2014 - 3:39 pm
Good feedback, thanks guys
#49 by Daniel Genseric on 03/16/2014 - 3:40 pm
Hijacking is the theft of a consistent message’s energy for the purpose of furthering tangential goals and/or messaging; e.g. “Bro. You just got D.B. Cooper-ed on LIVE television. You got hijacked.”
#50 by Jason on 03/16/2014 - 3:59 pm
I’m confused by one thing: Bob said a BUGS leader had been visited by the FBI. But apparently that was Kyle, who isn’t a BUGS leader.
Our interest should be people like Laura who organized collecting donations and distributing material and all the great people who put up signs.
Kyle was more of a side event from this perspective. He helped publicize it, but it seems clear he is largely an Old School White Nationalist for the most part.
#51 by Horus on 03/16/2014 - 7:23 pm
Jason,
He stated a BUGS leader was visited by the FBI. He was not talking about Kyle. He never stated which BUGSTERS were visited to my knowledge for whatever reason.
To my knowledge ….Bob does not know Kyle….per se. Bob has never even been on his show.
#52 by Jason on 03/16/2014 - 11:41 pm
Horus, thanks for the clarification, makes sense now.
#53 by Asgardian on 03/16/2014 - 7:40 pm
Seriously what the hell do we have to do to get on Fox or Msnbc? There is no way in hell that the MSM didn’t catch wind of this.
#54 by Jason on 03/16/2014 - 11:45 pm
I seriously wonder if that missing airline didn’t get in the way. It is slow news right now EXCEPT for that.
#55 by Mimmy Jarr on 03/17/2014 - 1:37 am
I wasn’t surprised that the anti-White media blacked us out. I pretty much expected it.
After we did our demonstration at SPSCC on Friday afternoon, I emailed a press release to Drew Mikkelson who broke the original story about the anti-White email scandal created by The Diversity and Equity Department. I included photos, a description of our activities and purpose, and an invitation to cover our upcoming activities for Saturday.
No response.
I followed up with another email and photos after the event on Saturday.
No response.
#56 by Yankee Rebel on 03/17/2014 - 5:58 am
I agree the term, “White Man March” should be retired. Something else like White Mantra March or something neutral would be more inclusive of our women.