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There is a Difference Between a Classroom and a Battlefield

Posted by Bob on September 5th, 2014 under Coaching Session, How Things Work, Mantra


When BUGSERS started quoting the Mantra to David Duke, he kept saying, “It’s BOB WHITAKER’S Mantra.”

This property right seems very important to him.

I have run into this problem for decades.

I am only capable of truly HATING one group, and that group is White gentile TRAITORS.

Jews are people who have decided to take an alien loyalty.

So are anti-white Catholics. They have were fighting for assimilation – assimilation — long before it was of any interest to Jews.  That is the traditional intermarriage program Sarkozy said he would use force to speed up.

My objection to talking about Jews is that it makes us ineffective. Wordists, Jews and other groups have different loyalties from mine, and they act as enemies of my race. When Emma Lazarus wrote the inscription on the Statue of Liberty, everyone knew that she was a lifelong, dedicated Zionist. This country she so poetically gave away was not HER country.

Can you imagine Emma Lazarus’s reaction if Robert Whitaker wrote an inscription for a monument in Haifa telling the whole world to come to Israel?

But it is perfectly understandable why a Zionist would be glad to give away America.

But what little information we are able to produce is not for a classroom.

In a war of survival for the White race, the value of information is whether it WORKS.

In the actual war, talking about Jews gives the other side something they can grasp hold of. They are ready for it. photo westpoint.jpg

In wartime, any statement, no matter how true for a classroom, is abandoned the SECOND it ceases to be effective IN THE WAR.

Also, there is my respect for Dr. Duke himself. He is attacking Jews. If that will work, he does not need MY amateur help.

A Jew or a fanatically blind Catholic is not a traitor.  He is entirely different from me.

I know David Duke.  However he regards me, I know he is a heroic and dedicated man. My opinion of him (or of anybody else) does not depend on his opinion of me.

Someone who bases their opinion of others on their opinion of him is not someone who can give objective advice, and objective advice is all I have to offer.

But I DO take it personally when someone uses my name or the precious effective memes we have developed to throw them away on Jews.

Our memes WORK. But you can destroy our effectiveness if you just use our memes to get in some cheap shots at Jews.

This is not a friggin’ classroom.  This is a WAR.

I DEMAND that anyone using BUGS ammunition get OFF, totally OFF, the Jew Addiction.

Only a true retard would not understand THAT by now.

Audio Bob

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  1. #1 by ElectricWhiteRabbit on 09/05/2014 - 5:31 pm

    Never understood the News and Joosers. They believe an effective way of fighting White genocide is talking about all the bad stuff “Joos” did or are doing.

    It baffles me that a person can’t see that the best way to fight White genocide is to talk about White genocide, spreading memes and Mantras, is more effective than 5,000 word essays about Joos.

    If Joo talk really works than how come it never worked in the 60’s? how come it never worked before that? Is it going to work 20 years from now?

    We have been more effective in a 2-3 year span than the News and Joosers have been for the last 70 years.

    Just look at the evidence, Tim Wise was very whiling to debate Jared Taylor multiple times on Camera, yet he refuses to debate Bob just once on Paltalk.

    Heck, the only reason AMPW would bring up “White genocide” in the first place (even if they say “Joos” are responsible) is because of us BUGsers.

  2. #2 by Secret Squirrel on 09/05/2014 - 7:10 pm

    “But I DO take it personally when someone uses my name or the precious effective memes we have developed to throw them away on Jews.

    Our memes WORK. But you can destroy our effectiveness if you just use our memes to get in some cheap shots at Jews.”

    Agreed. David with all respect, if you aren’t going to go the whole hog on White Genocide, then you can best help the cause, by not using our stuff at all.

    ***

    I also want to say something about the “anti-White racism” discussion that was had here recently. If you see WN using anti-White racism, correct them and encourage them to use antiwhitism instead.

    The word racist and racism, have always been about forcing racial assimilation. I have never seen organized Jewish groups use “antisemitic racism” for this reason. They are not calling for the forced racial integration of their people, so why are people on our side doing it?

  3. #3 by scrivener on 09/05/2014 - 8:39 pm

    Bob is absolutely right, and I’ve gotten into tousles with people still stuck in their News and Jews phase over my statements that discussing Jews actually prevents out message from getting out.

    Now, I understand, especially people new to White awareness get all excited about their newfound realization that Jews are running around acting in Jewish self-interest. But talking about it doesn’t do a whole lot of good.

    You have to understand, there are untold billions of dollars of social engineering at work telling the average person that talking-about-Jews=anti-Semite and anti-Semite=evil.

    Think about that. A tremendous amount of work has gone into that bit of social engineering. If you’re trying to make a point about what’s being done to our people, and you talk about the Jews, it doesn’t matter what you say. You could say “This rabbi was eating White babies” and no one would focus on the White babies that were eaten. Instead, the focus would be on 1.) whether you’re an anti-Semite and 2.) whether the rabbi was actually a Jew.

    Talking about whatever some Jews are doing that might be adverse to the interests of non-Jews won’t get you anywhere. It’s the rhetorical equivalent of using a battering ram on the thickest part of the castle wall instead of the gate. It’s simply not effective.

    Bob brought up Sarkozy’s statement about White genocide. Some guy posted to yahoo answers about that, except he called him “Jew Sarkozy.” The result was predictable. Even though Sarkozy had gone on record threatening unspecified acts of genocide against White Europeans, no one cared. All anyone wanted to talk about was whether he was a Jew or whether the author was an anti-Semite. (That discussion can be found here: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091210133502AAxxPqF )

    That’s why I don’t talk about Jewish power and influence, and why you shouldn’t either.

    That, and the fact that, left to their own devices, White Europeans, fed up with Jewish power and influence, always expelled the Jews. But someone always let them back in.

    Jews are not the real problem. Something at the top of White society is the problem, and it’s been going on for a long time. The problem is less that Jews act in Jewish self-interest and more that Whites are not permitted to act in White self-interest.

    • #4 by WmWhite on 09/06/2014 - 6:15 am

      A well thought out and stated response, which for me, sheds valuable light on just ‘one’ of the major problems facing whites today (white genocide awareness without disturbing the jew-beehive and its gentile supporters).

      So we as pro-whites living in an anti-white controlled oligarchy[1] have to wake up our own people to the fact that:
      1-White self-interests should trump ‘out-group’ interests.
      2-And white genocide is a current danger to our present and future children.
      3-And we have to do this is a fashion that shrouds in secrecy this specifically powerful group, whose interests are adverse to ours.

      [1] http://www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/Gilens%20homepage%20materials/Gilens%20and%20Page/Gilens%20and%20Page%202014-Testing%20Theories%203-7-14.pdf

      —-

      It seems to me that one way we can survive the traitors at the elite levels of our society and their useful idiots (white traitors and the brainwashed) is through a Mantra guided samizdat approach (there are many others I’m sure) but there will come a time when whites will want and demand, the: names, locations and the bank accounts of those anti-whites who seek/sought our destruction.

      • #5 by Jason on 09/06/2014 - 7:48 am

        But the “Jew Beehive” isn’t running White Genocide. The premise seems to be that if it weren’t for Jews, this wouldn’t be happening. That’s not true.

        White race-traitors are not lackeys to anybody. They aren’t serving “The Jew” or whoever.

        • #6 by WmWhite on 09/08/2014 - 11:53 am

          “But the jew Beehive isn’t running White Genocide.”

          It isn’t necessarily running the show (I didn’t mean to imply that it was the only game in town) but it isn’t an innocuous ‘innocent’ entity either. Also, when you say, “white race-traitors are not lackeys to anybody. They aren’t serving “The Jew” or whoever,” –what does that mean?
          Are they just insane with greed and self-hatred?

          Are whites who say something ‘we consider’ anti-white and act in an altruistic manner that is detrimental to their own people always traitors?
          If we use that as a definition we are NOT going to have many white people left who fit our definition of “pro-white allies” in the future.

          There may be many white race-traitors who are just psychopathic nutjobs but many of our people are acting-out from decades of anti-white conditioning: care of our educational systems, churches, entertainment industry etc etc etc…

          Bob has often given examples of how our own cultural and religious development over the centuries has mislead us to this white genocidal predicament. There is no ONE cause (it is not just the joos or any other anti-white group or people) but no anti-white group or person should get a ‘bye’ once we have turned the tide.

  4. #7 by Asgardian on 09/06/2014 - 12:08 am

    You have to circumvent the blue star state, anything less would be the equivalent of pissing on a fire in a sky rise building.

    Decades of brainwashing=100 ppl telling ONE person that the sky is blue and that ONE person STILL won’t believe them.

    If you attack the blue star state head on you will be portrayed as a toothless nazithatwantstokillsixmillionjews with a burning cross tied to his back as he sprints down the street.

    Our people are curious by nature most don’t settle for “it’s this way because that’s the way it is” that’s not enough for them they wanna know WHY things are the way they are.

    That’s where things can get tricky, you have 2 leave them mantra bread crumbs POINT out the genocidal scam…SHOW THEM. They will eventually wanna know WHO is pushing it.

    Attacking jews is like bashing ur head against a brick wall all it will do is give you a headache and lead the brick wall perfectly intact.

    I discuss this in great depths with Tom Bowie on his talkshoe show that he covers for.

    • #8 by WmWhite on 09/06/2014 - 6:37 am

      H Avenger said, if I’m quoting him correctly:
      “it takes 15-yrs of totally controlled propaganda to brainwash a people and probably that many years to de-condition them,” (that’s almost a generation).

      He also said: ” …you can’t educate in the middle of psychological warfare which is the present game .”

      My point is your brick wall analogy is apropos to our present situation since no one in (high or low places) are going to listen to real evidence at this time and suddenly “change their anti-white minds.” –it is going to take time.

      aside: In my discussions with anti-whites, I have found that the majority have been ‘white people,’ who for reasons that still baffle me (brainwashed or not), are not only anti-white but support our present ‘white genocidal’ situation (i.e. Diversity, Assimilation and Multiculturalism).

  5. #9 by Jason on 09/06/2014 - 6:10 am

    Those poor Whites who stab other Whites in the back can’t be blamed. The Jews made them do it! They used their secret mind-control techniques, don’t you know? I sometimes wonder if these Jew-Obsessives have ever met a White anti-White race traitor. Spend time with them – nobody is making them do what they do … they have the spirit of a pure traitor.

    It isn’t just some mean old Jews, or Catholics, or Evangelicals who push our genocide. If we get that notion in our head we are doing our people a disservice.

    There was once a White India, ruled by blue-eyed Aryans. It turned Brown. Jews had nothing to do with it.

    There was once a White Egypt, ruled by red-haired Pharaohs. Egypt turned Brown. It wasn’t Jews that did it.

    Hell, The Aztecs and Mayans spoke of White Gods that once walked among them … they disappeared. It wasn’t Jews who did that.

    If you put all blame on the Illuminati, the Catholics, the Protestants, the Freemasons or the Lizard People, you are letting the worst group, White Traitors, off the hook. You are saying treason doesn’t happen – why, those poor Whites were just victims of Illuminati mind control!

    Get real. No real BUGSER would fall for that 3rd grade crap.

  6. #10 by Yankee Rebel on 09/06/2014 - 9:41 am

    Traitors have historically been regarded as the lowest form of human scum. We would not be facing White Genocide today if not for the actions of White Traitors.

  7. #11 by jo3w on 09/06/2014 - 11:35 am

    Dr. Duke can’t help himself, he is a blind believer that Jews are superior. How else could you explain the level of control he believes Jews exert over White Gentiles?

  8. #12 by Henry Davenport on 09/06/2014 - 3:22 pm

    We don’t do Jews!

    Bob has stressed that many times.

    Mentioning jews collapses your Mantra message to “I’m a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews”

    Anti-whites took control of the “jew” meme long ago and spent decades arming it to the teeth.

    The Mantra doesn’t throw itself onto sharpened anti-white memes that are poisoned pointed stakes.

    The Mantra spreads its own memes of “White Genocide,” “anti-white,” “etc. that remold the mass White mind and remold what’s permitted to be said in public conversation.

    But many new BUGSters arrive here fresh from the pro-White cult that brainwashes all its adherents that we MUST talk about Jews.

    They are like the Whites who arrive at their new all-white neighborhood after fleeing their old neighborhood where diversity wasn’t working, and then repeat their brainwashing, “I love this neighborhood, but it lacks diversity.”

    Pro-whites arrive at BUGS from wherever talking about jews wasn’t working, and then repeat their brainwashing, “The Mantra is great, I love it, but I should also talk about jews.”

    Duh.

    That doesn’t happen too often, but when it does, it’s a real pain in the @ss.

    • #13 by Jason on 09/06/2014 - 3:56 pm

      HD says:

      “”Pro-whites arrive at BUGS from wherever talking about jews wasn’t working, and then repeat their brainwashing, “The Mantra is great, I love it, but I should also talk about jews.”

      Duh.””

      I would add that we’ve had big names in the past focus on The Jews. Henry Ford was a billionaire who owned the 2nd largest newspaper in the country with a circulation of almost a million. He ran a series on the topic. It got Whites nowhere.

      Father Coughlin had an audience of 30 million back in the 1930s and he talked about all this stuff. It got us nowhere.

      Those men had far more money, influence and audience than most could ever hope for and the message of focusing on the The Jews didn’t work for them. Why is someone’s random video blog going to do any better with the same message?

      I’m afraid these people think they are in possession of some “special knowledge” that no one has heard about. It reminds me of JFK conspiracy types. The truth is, EVERYONE has already heard about the Jews.

      • #14 by Henry Davenport on 09/06/2014 - 4:31 pm

        I always think of Charles Lindbergh, possibly the world’s most admired and celebrated man of all time, until he said “jew.”

        And that was long before the Church of Political Correctness became every White country’s state religion!

        ——

        The imperative that pro-whites feel to say “jew” really and truly is a form of brainwashing that pro-whites have done to ourselves. I feel a twinge of guilt when some idiot SF’er confronts me over the fact that BUGS doesn’t do jews, despite the fact that my brain knows without a smidgeon of doubt that we’re doing the right thing.

        But when you feel one way and only your brain is holding you in check, you are a potential danger!

        That’s why I fear for the future of BUGS about this jew stuff, because so many of us arrive here brainwashed to say “jew,” and IMO only a fairly thin barrier of training and understanding keeps us from doing so.

        Which means that forceful pro-whites who come along and use their exceptional ability to spread the Mantra for us in a big way, but who don’t agree with us about not doing jew stuff, also pose a danger to us, because their accomplishments can make us willing to overlook their jew stuff and then the internal rot begins as admiring bugsters begin to copy their example.

        I’ve seen it happen.

  9. #15 by Henry Davenport on 09/06/2014 - 4:08 pm

    Some of the comments above worry me, because they make the thread as a whole seem to conflate two COMPLETELY UNRELATED ISSUES:
    1. The role large or small of jews in White Genocide.
    2. The effect of mentioning jews.

    Only the second point is of any concern to us at all in our work in spreading Mantra. Don’t feed the false belief of many pro-whites that we don’t do jews because we don’t understand what they understand. (The reason I care what other pro-whites think is that some of the few forceful ones among their number get their hands on the Mantra and start going “jew, jew, jew,” and their view that that is the right thing to do is strengthened by their false belief that we at BUGS are just folk who are ignorant on the topic. When in fact we’ve had a recurrent problem at BUGS keeping ourselves OFF the topic!)

    We don’t do jews because it collapses the Mantra message to “I’m a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”

  10. #16 by Horus on 09/06/2014 - 5:07 pm

    I think some bugsers are overlooking something. There is a global trend against Zionism and Jews. And it is a dominate trend many Pro Whites are playing into. David Duke being one of them. Trends are nothing to fool with. To be effective you need to recognize were the energy is flowing and learn to bring the topic back to make a much broader point (like in Bob’s article above he made the point about White AntiWhite Traitors).

    Don’t go running screaming from the room when someone says the word Jew. Learn to engage and bring the conversation back to our points. You don’t want to end up like or seem like some hard headed theocrat opposite the news and joosers. We are doing something totally different. We ain’t educating and we ain’t about writing history books. Make your point.

    Me and Bob were talking about this and you might find the below helpful or not.

    ” I get asked about the mantra and the jews all the time.
    I always tell people. The Mantra is NOT Anti Semitic nor Philosemitic. It is an open system style attack against White Genocide and against all Anti Whites no matter their persuasion. Bob Whitaker wrote Why Johnny Can’t think. It has chapter after chapter with Jewish Names. Like the National Socialsts from way back ….he just spells out the Jewish names and lets everyone figure things out on their own. I am not a historian. But I would assume that when the history of White Genocide is written. There will be more chapters devoted Jewish names…..then say Space Aliens. But we are going to insure there are chapters devoted to all the Anti White White GENTILE traitors as well.”

    • #17 by Henry Davenport on 09/06/2014 - 11:22 pm

      There is a global trend against Zionism and Jews.

      Even to me in my hermit life, for sure there seems to be a global trend against Zionism, or simply against Israel. Whether or not there’s also a trend against jews among Whites in White countries, I’ll leave to you and to others here who keep up a lot better than I do with what’s going on, but I’ll nonetheless say for the little it may be worth that I don’t see it.

      I will caution against one thing that I feel on firmer ground about in that regard, which is a tendency among pro-Whites to assume that ordinary Whites make the same equation between Jews and Israel that pro-Whites do, and to therefore assume that because Israel is in increasing disfavor among Whites, then Jews must be in increasing disfavor among those same Whites also.

      As strange as it may seem, most Whites on the left who oppose Israel keep jews in one part of their brain, and Israel in another part, and never the twain shall meet. (I’m extrapolating to the larger left from behavior on commie radio here in Berkeley, where probably more than half of the folk who have opposed Israel for as long as I can remember are jews).

      I get asked about the mantra and the jews all the time.

      You’ve said before, and I hope I’m not misstating you, that you have to give replies to your audience’s questions in a normal way that responds to their question.

      If you could control who your audience is, I’d accept your judgment about that and have no question about it.

      But I don’t think you have any control over who reads your site or your tweets. I haven’t been able to keep up with either twitter or your site, so maybe this isn’t a fair remark, but I think it a shame if ordinary White folk who stumble across AntiRacist Hitler and find it brilliant, and google your site, would then come to the disappointing conclusion that ARH was just the product of another naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

      Which is the conclusion I think an ordinary white would come to about you and Bob both upon reading your reply as you describe it in your comment:

      he [Bob] just spells out the Jewish names and lets everyone figure things out on their own.

      I don’t think Bob’s purpose for the last 16 years has been to lead Whites to an understanding about jews, which is the way that statement will be taken even if it’s not the way it’s meant.

      It seems to me that you’ve drifted toward satisfying a particular audience that you’re catering to. Even if you’re correct that a feeling against jews is growing among Whites in general, I’m confident that that feeling is still so extremely small that appealing to it does us more harm than good.

      In that last regard, it’s important to understand also that a White person can have a feeling against jews and still think that anyone who publicly expresses such views is a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

      The flexible human mind has to exert no special effort at all to accomplish that startling feat of multitasking.

      Why not make it easy for our general audience and just stick to Mantra?

      • #18 by Secret Squirrel on 09/06/2014 - 11:42 pm

        “As strange as it may seem, most Whites on the left who oppose Israel keep jews in one part of their brain, and Israel in another part, and never the twain shall meet.”

        That is my experience. They are able to hold contradictory views at the same time. Anyone looking for allies there, is playing with fire.

      • #19 by Henry Davenport on 09/06/2014 - 11:52 pm

        Even if you’re correct that a feeling against jews is growing among Whites in general, I’m confident that that feeling is still so extremely small that appealing to it does us more harm than good.

        Since I know so little about White countries outside the U.S., I’ll restrict this statement to the U.S. as far as my own opinion goes.

      • #20 by Jason on 09/07/2014 - 12:39 am

        HD,

        Excellent comments, couldn’t agree more. Anti-Zionism just doesn’t equal pro-White. A few may be pro-White, but most don’t care and a lot of anti-Zionists are actually anti-White too.

        I’ve even heard Leftist anti-Whites make comments against Jews in general. I assure you that doesn’t make them care about White Genocide one bit.

      • #21 by Henry Davenport on 09/07/2014 - 10:58 am

        Even if you’re correct that a feeling against jews is growing among Whites in general, I’m confident that that feeling is still so extremely small that appealing to it does us more harm than good.

        I drifted away from the point with this statement. Even if feeling against jews were strong enough for us to appeal to it successfully, doing that would still do our message much more harm than good, since it would shift our message to being just a message about jews (when you say “jew,” that’s what your entire message becomes).

        • #22 by Henry Davenport on 09/07/2014 - 11:54 am

          (I can’t edit) So as Bob says, we leave the jew stuff to those who are pros at it, and we do Mantra.

          Doing Mantra doesn’t really depend one way or the other on what we think about the “jew pros” doing their jew thing.

          Even if I thought the jew pros were having success (and maybe they are, despite our opinion that they’re not, since they do have the internet, which they didn’t have before the end of the last century), I would still do Mantra, because I know it’s effective and that’s the skill I’ve trained at.

          But believing as we do that scrivener’s excellent metaphor is correct, that the “jew pros” are pounding a battering ram against the thickest part of the castle walls instead of against the castle door (and we believing also that even if that metaphor is incorrect, we should stick to battering the door we’ve chosen so as to not turn our message into something else), the deeper problem that the folk doing jews present to us is that even if they could somehow be persuaded to leave the Mantra stuff alone as Bob is calling for, the public is still likely to make some association between the omnipresent jew stuff and the omnipresent Mantra.

          All we can do is not abet that association.

          I know there’s some people reading the majority comments on this thread who don’t agree with them fully…I’m thinking of one exceptional gentleman in particular 😀 , and if those who don’t agree would care to speak up and express their own view we could have a truly intricate and interesting discussion!

    • #23 by scrivener on 09/07/2014 - 6:29 pm

      Horus :

      Don’t go running screaming from the room when someone says the word Jew. Learn to engage and bring the conversation back to our points. You don’t want to end up like or seem like some hard headed theocrat opposite the news and joosers.

      I actually agree, and the way I usually deal with a conversation devolving into “he’s a jew, no he isn’t, yes he is, you’re an anti-Semite” is to say:

      At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter WHO’S doing the genociding, but that SOMEONE is, and it has to stop, because as it stands now, the leadership in White countries and ONLY in White countries have decided… [insert mantra]

      • #24 by scrivener on 09/07/2014 - 6:33 pm

        Or maybe, “At this stage, it matters less WHO’S doing the genociding, but rather that SOMEONE is and we have trouble even getting a serious discussion of the problem…”

    • #25 by WmWhite on 09/08/2014 - 1:12 pm

      Horus, you bring up several points that many here are always quibbling about and having anxiety attacks over.

      The First is (to paraphrase Horus): “don’t run screaming from the room OR try and crucify everyone who says the forbidden word: JEW.
      We don’t want to appear like the cartoon depicting “Missionaries” sitting in a boiling-cook-pot surrounded by savage cannibals with bones in their noses, saying to each other: “Maybe if we ignore them and pretend they aren’t here, they will go away.” –Instead, engage and turn the conversation back to white genocide.

      Secondly, (though not fully articulated in this post), we at BUGS are not a THEOCRACY.
      Bob is not the pontiff (he defines himself as a coach) and the Mantra is not some holy book given us by a sacred deity. We are not guided by a religious system, lead by Wordish priests and beholden to some sacred divinity or restricted by an unbending liturgy. Leave whatever religion you follow out of the conversation, since we welcome ALL pro-whites to the table …no matter their belief system (or lack of).

      Thirdly, the Mantra is an (Open Ended System), which allows for change and battles white genocide, without dogmatic limitations (sort of).
      In practice, at BUGS, it is more of a feedback loop between (Mantra: Ideas / ACTIONS) and exchanges with anti-whites. Then there is a discussion about what works and what doesn’t. We then decide using ‘evidence’ what our actions will be and change or end those that don’t work.


      thanks Horus, if anything I said is amiss, I’m always open to comment or intelligent correction.

  11. #26 by Secret Squirrel on 09/06/2014 - 11:06 pm

    Swedish Pro immigration party (in government) candidate for parliament posts David Duke video on her Facebook!
    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1062028/

    David has attracted an anti-White Arab, with his anti-racist vs racist Jews approach. This is exactly what we said would happen. What is David going to do if the bulk of his followers, are brown open borders anti-Whites instead of Pro Whites?

    David posted in that thread and its the first time I’ve seen him use anti-White. Perhaps that story has finally woken him up. I really hope so.

    • #27 by Henry Davenport on 09/07/2014 - 12:43 am

      Great, if we’d only talk about jews, we could kill two birds with one stone. We could be considered both anti-semitic and pro-Islamist.

      I guess that’s killing one bird with two stones.

    • #28 by Jason on 09/07/2014 - 2:26 am

      I don’t think he woke up. Look at his comment when someone points out that she is for the Islamification of Europe:

      “The Jews did it. The Jews opened our gates, brainwashed our people, corrupted our politicians. They were behind it all. Period! ”

      No such thing as a White traitor in his world. They was all brainwashed!

      He goes on to state that all he cares about is that this woman says how great his video is.

      Apparently he’s decided being pro-White isn’t as important as being anti-Jewish. He is appealing to a childish worldview that sees the whole world as controlled by seven Jewish dwarfs in some secret cave somewhere.

      I doubt he believes it.

      • #29 by Secret Squirrel on 09/07/2014 - 7:02 am

        Sigh… Well like I said before, BUGS should ignore him and let him do his own thing. Dissidents are by their nature, stubborn as mules. Instead of wasting time trying to change them, we should be spreading the mantra.

  12. #30 by Simmons on 09/07/2014 - 9:01 am

    A couple of thoughts, our intellectuals decry the propaganda or worse call it “intellectual” but then on the other hand dismiss the effectiveness of propaganda and go right back to abstract lengthy essays to the converted, I got booted from a couple of websites by pro-whites because I interrupted their train of essays to the true believers- what a racket.

    Second, jews benefit from anti-semetism, yes they do and they even produce it (see VNN).

    Thirdly we will benefit from anti-whitism, hell I would pay good money for some quality anti-whitism, but the facts on the ground are that for the most part the anti-whites are lousy humans who engender little respect, maybe some fear, but no respect.

    • #31 by Jason on 09/07/2014 - 3:54 pm

      “…hell I would pay good money for some quality anti-whitism” …

      That’s a good point. Having people get out and openly admit they hate you is worth a fortune. That’s why Jewish organizations love anti-Semites. Scaring old ladies living in Florida about the ‘coming skinhead menace’ helps raise funds!

  13. #32 by Undercover Lover on 09/07/2014 - 11:13 am

    Are we still talking about jews?

  14. #33 by Tom Bowie on 09/07/2014 - 12:14 pm

    This is indeed a timely message for me.

    Today, Asguardian and I will be doing a show that’ll include a rather Pro-Israel but still Anti-White fellow and Joshua Bonehill.

    Mr. Bonehill is Pro-White but NOT on message.

    Before this article even came up, I knew we were going into a Battlefield, in every debate; well sometimes Battlefields have Minefields.

    Anybody is welcome to attend; it’ll be a very diverse audience of Jew and Gentile alike; as well as those on message and those who hate the Mantra.

    It’s a different TalkShoe Show than normal; http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=133071&cmd=tc and will be at 3:00 pm (Eastern Standard Time)

  15. #34 by Tom Bowie on 09/07/2014 - 6:04 pm

    As I said, this was a very timely article.

    Things got dragged off message again and again but Asgardian dragged it back again and again while forcing Mr. Shield to concede point after point.

    Mr.. Shield had no protection against Asgardian’s Spear so-to-say.

    Asgardian has definitely won the Battlefield today despite all the Minefields and Barbed-Wire he had to overcome.

  16. #35 by Asgardian on 09/07/2014 - 6:30 pm

    Thanks Tom.

    Raid.

  17. #36 by Asgardian on 09/07/2014 - 7:21 pm

    Bob, from everything that I am thank you for all that you have taught me.

    http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=895897&cmd=apop

  18. #37 by Simmons on 09/08/2014 - 10:39 am

    We compared to the anti-whites are the moderates, if you get that thru your head then you are miles ahead in your thinking, IMO of course.

  19. #38 by activism on 09/08/2014 - 11:50 am

    It could benefit stormfront greatly to have this entire thread with bugser comments posted into a new thread on stormfront for posterity and discussion. This thread addresses the problem pro whites have of jewsering eloquently. Use an inviting thread title to incite debate. If anyone can do this post the link back here please.

  20. #39 by Laura on 09/08/2014 - 1:53 pm

    Bugsers – New Audio Bob posted

    • #40 by Jason on 09/08/2014 - 5:41 pm

      Excellent talk and Laura did a great job interviewing.

      And a very important point was made: we can’t control what non-BUGSERS do but we can call out BUGSERS who go off the reservation.

      Some politician misusing BUGS stuff isn’t that big a deal. One of us screwing up is deadly.

      • #41 by Henry Davenport on 09/08/2014 - 6:08 pm

        Right, and using one’s technical skill to hijack one of our sites and block full access to the site’s owner is rather far off the reservation. It’s completely indefensible and completely outrageous.

        But like Bob says at the end of the audio, only loose cannons would get involved in what we’re doing anyway. I loved that part! For some reason it really makes me laugh!

        • #42 by Jason on 09/08/2014 - 6:50 pm

          Yes I laughed at the loose cannon line too! We should be prepared for the fact that people involved in almost any political movement that truly challenges the status quo will have some “edgy” people in it. 🙂

          This ain’t the Rotary Club.

          If someone is a bit mentally off but can be wound up with our memes and sent in the direction of the anti-Whites, great.

          But we need to be on the lookout for people who are obsessed with some other pet project and ONLY using White Genocide Memes as a way of advancing their cause.

          By the way, I have other interests too but I don’t mix it with BUGS work. To me, that is key. If someone wants to push some other political cause, please create separate accounts and don’t mix it with BUGS material.

          Lastly, the only thing worse than a loose cannon is someone who doesn’t know he’s a loose cannon!

  21. #43 by Undercover Lover on 09/08/2014 - 3:55 pm

    Seems this hijacking problem isn’t going to go away anytime soon. More specifically the “Jew” thing isn’t going to go away. Maybe we need to really go after people who hijack our message with “jews.”

    How do other people respond when someone trys to hijack your “white genocide” with “jews?” I’m just trying to get some ideas for when i encounter it.

    I was just thinking of asking them;

    “If only we had Anti-Racist Hitler, am I right?”

    I’m going to start asking all jew talkers that. See what happens. Maybe they’ll start focusing on white genocide from there.

  22. #44 by Asgardian on 09/08/2014 - 5:58 pm

    I have never been more convinced b4 IN MY LIFE that antiwhites are easier 2 deal with than news and joosers after the last show that I called in 2 which Tom Bowie was hosting….WOW.

    These guys throw gas on the antiwhite fire faster than any1 at any “anti racist” organization could ever dream of doing.

    • #45 by Jason on 09/08/2014 - 7:01 pm

      The irony is the Noos and Joosers make a fortune for the SPLC and ADL, the very people they claim to hate. The SPLC is desperate for any image of a scary looking guy to put on their magazines so as to frighten old retirees in Florida into making fat donations to keep the “Nazi Menace” at bay!

  23. #46 by jo3w on 09/08/2014 - 7:32 pm

    Part of the reason people cant get over their Jew addiction is because we never tell him/her that what they are saying is horseshit. We just tell them,” You cant say Jew because nobody will listen to you.(even though its true…wink, nod)” These people talk about what Jews are doing to White people like White people have no ability to resist Jewish persuasion. How Jewish supremacist can you get? Just start telling the Jewster that they are wrong about their conspiracy theories and take that ridiculous bull shit somewhere else. When they start talking all I can hear is,”Waaa waaa, the dirty old jew wont let me out from his trap!” Reminds me of some crybabies complaining that the dirty old White man is holding me down. Pathetic and weak.

    Even if there was some grand conspiracy in our midst, we would not need to discover the conspiring parties to end our genocide. All we need to do is control our own fate.

    If we don’t trade this playing dumb for flat out denial, we are no different than any of a thousand unsuccessful pro-White group.

    • #47 by jo3w on 09/08/2014 - 7:46 pm

      I want to revise the second part of my post, but my edit function is running widdershins.

      Even if there is a Jewish conspiracy in our midst, they are not responsible for our welfare. I guarantee that a snake cut off half way down is just as dead as one cut off at the head.

  24. #48 by wretchedWhiterabbit on 09/08/2014 - 8:02 pm

    “Thanks, Jews.”, is a “consistent message” …

    It’s just not ARIACWFAW.

    People are always saying to me, “What do you mean? You have White culture everywhere,” and I’m like, “No, this is Jewish culture. This isn’t my culture.” _lana lockteff, Radio 3Fourteen

    antiracist is a code word for antiWhite

    • #49 by wretchedWhiterabbit on 09/08/2014 - 9:02 pm

      I’m not saying that Bugsers should take up a new Mantra…I understand the need to keep these issues separate … just trying to help others, like ElectricWhiteRabbit, understand where the “nooz and joozers” are coming from. It’s a valid opinion. But, of course, any time a White person points out the corruptive Jewish influence on White society, we are called “news and joozers”. You may as well say “nazi”, dude. But, hey, denigrate the message that others convey. That seems to be working, “since the 60’s”.
      Antiracist is a code word for antiWhite.

      • #50 by Jason on 09/08/2014 - 10:48 pm

        It’s a valid opinion to think that Catholics/FreeMasons/Protestants/TheMafia and many others had a bad influence on our culture.

        But ultimately, so what? What’s that got to do with pointing out the crime of genocide? It would just get in the way.

  25. #51 by Daniel Genseric on 09/08/2014 - 9:01 pm

    Again,

    I have given the answer to this treatment before. And, like Bob, I will repeat and repeat and repeat it over and over and over again until it sinks in.

    “Is it more important for you to be anti-Zionist or pro-white?”
    “Is it more important to ‘make the Jooos PAY’ than it is STOP white genocide?”
    “After all, how are you ever going to cash a Tribunal Check or drool about Jews if you can’t breathe?”

    These are the questions you must ask so the audience can see the N&J-er’s loyalty.

  26. #52 by Mimmy Jarr on 09/08/2014 - 9:07 pm

    All your meme are belong to me.

    • #53 by Daniel Genseric on 09/08/2014 - 9:18 pm

      Yeah.

      But, we OWN your ass. Don’t forget it.

    • #54 by wretchedWhiterabbit on 09/08/2014 - 9:19 pm

      sure, ‘cos attacking another pro-White meme is infinitely preferable to staying on one’s own consistent message

      surely you can appreciate the irony

  27. #55 by Mimmy Jarr on 09/08/2014 - 9:10 pm

    Life is short, folks. Get out and have some fun.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fvTxv46ano

    • #56 by Henry Davenport on 09/09/2014 - 12:09 am

      Jimmy, I was planning on calling you in a week or two and asking if you’d be willing to share you views with me on the issues in this thread, and then asking you if you’d be willing to share with me as well your reasoning behind your views.

      This would be a better place to do it though, if you feel up for it. We all have great appreciation and respect for the actions you’ve done (and I have the same feeling to an extent toward seapea in that particular regard also, if not in other regards at the moment), and I’d hope we could have a discussion here that would be courteous and might give us all (and yes, of course I’m including yourself) some understandings that aren’t yet clear.

      The floor is yours for all that you might wish to say, if you wish.

  28. #57 by Jason on 09/08/2014 - 10:52 pm

    I don’t think David Duke believes what he is saying. This attitude that every single White person who stabbed our RACE in the back was “brainwashed” by The Jew is retarded.

    I don’t think he is retarded. He may be hooked on Fame.

  29. #58 by Benjamin Newells on 09/09/2014 - 12:06 am

    There are now dozens of “Pro-Whites” hijacking the mantra with their CONSTANT jewsing on Twitter. How are we going to control this?

    • #59 by Benjamin Newells on 09/09/2014 - 12:28 am

      How do we know the people in the demonstration in Britain were even BUGSERS? They were probably just jewsers holding up mantra banners.

    • #60 by Henry Davenport on 09/09/2014 - 12:38 am

      I’m not yet super familiar with twitter, but here’s an idea you can judge for yourself: whenever you see that, say stuff to them that will create the reaction, “well screw you and your White Genocide meme anyway.”

      Many of them are probably doing what they’re doing in part just to be on board something they think is kind of cool, kind of helpful (and probably many of them don’t even realize they’re transgressing), but if we stop letting our silence give them the impression that they’re traveling along happily onboard with us, and instead kick them in the butt, I’m guessing that most of them would probably be happy to toss all Mantra stuff overboard since all they really care about is being able to talk about jews and feeling happily full of themselves. I wouldn’t think they’d want to expose themselves repeatedly to the kinds of scoldings that bugsters can dish out.

      You might want to start courteous (or maybe not, depending) but firm. “Spreading the White Genocide meme doesn’t work if you mix it with talking about jews, and we’re asking folks to please not do that.”

      Let me know if anyone complies…I enjoy hearing about miracles!…most will get up on their high horse at the thought that anyone would have the incredible gall to ask them to behave in any way except whatever way they want to behave, and then you can kick them in a way that will make most of them not want to be kicked again.

      My suggestions are based in part on an experience I had on youtube a couple of years ago, and those of you who tweet a lot can judge if it suits twitter.

      • #61 by Benjamin Newells on 09/09/2014 - 12:50 am

        Thanks for the reply, HD.

        I’m going to start calling every jewser hijacker out for their hijacking and get very confrontational. I will experiment. But my goal is to get them to stop using the terms anti-white and White Genocide.

        Yes, I’ll start courteous, but then get aggressive if they don’t comply.

        Yes a lot of these so called “White Nationalists” get wounded egos very easily.

        Just to let you know, in terms of the commenting aspect, Twitter is pretty much the same as any other online commenting type tool except that you need to do really SHORT messages (in fact once you do Twitter enough you’ll NEVER go back to long responses – it forces you to learn how to be really aggressive, mocking and rhetorical). And the fact that you can include images and videos in your tweets makes it ideal for BUGSERS.

        • #62 by Henry Davenport on 09/09/2014 - 1:08 am

          I’m going to start calling every jewser hijacker out for their hijacking and get very confrontational.

          Great! I get the impression that you will do a very good job at that…lol! 😀

          It’s just an idea off the top of my head…it may merit some discussion. But “wounded egos” as you say…that’s for sure, and I think it’s worth an experiment.

          • #63 by Benjamin Newells on 09/09/2014 - 1:24 am

            I’m actually glad that this has become a topic of discussion because having to look through hundreds of mantra-hijacked tweets was increasingly beginning to worry me.

    • #64 by Jason on 09/09/2014 - 1:02 am

      One approach might be to come up with Minis that mock Hitler or the Nazis in some way. I don’t have one available now but something to think about.

      • #65 by Benjamin Newells on 09/09/2014 - 1:17 am

        Jason, I have some ideas already. Obviously I need to TEST them. But I’ll lay a couple out now to get people thinking.

        One idea is to mock the idea that talking about Jews works. “Henry Ford owned the second biggest news outlet and ran stories on Jews. Look how that worked out”.

        Talking about Jews makes you look like a nazilaboratoryscientiestwhodoessickexperimentsonjews.

        • #66 by Benjamin Newells on 09/09/2014 - 1:19 am

          I think this will require some experimentation simply because my experience is in how to deal with Anti-Whites, not jewser hijackers.

          • #67 by Benjamin Newells on 09/09/2014 - 1:41 am

            Actually, I think dealing with Anti-Whites and Jewser-Hijackers is very similar in the sense that we are dealing with two groups who will both help bring about White Genocide. Except one does it intentionally and the other does it unintentionally.

      • #68 by Benjamin Newells on 09/09/2014 - 1:34 am

        Bit of a brainstorm:

        “Stop hijacking the Mantra message with your neonazism. You dumb neonazi.”

        “The Mantra is about ending WHITE GENOCIDE – it is not about Jew hate”.

      • #69 by Benjamin Newells on 09/09/2014 - 1:36 am

        “The Mantra is about ending WHITE GENOCIDE and ANTIWHITEism. Stop using IT to justify your antisemitism.

        • #70 by Henry Davenport on 09/09/2014 - 2:12 am

          On twitter or wherever, I think it’s important for us to not say anything whatsoever that implies we have any opinion whatsoever about nazis, jews, holocaust, etc. The last thing we want to do is get drawn into arguments about that kind of stuff…the worse tailgating there is…or sound like anti-whites arguing with pro-whites.

          I would stick to asking them to extend us the courtesy, or decency, of not destroying our material by mixing it with talk about jews, and if they don’t comply, do a purely personal attack that leaves them feeling bad without your taking a position on any other issue.

          If they come back in a huff to your courteous but firm request, then maybe something like this:

          stage 1:
          “I have no objection if you want to talk about jews [Benjamin, it doesn’t matter if you DO have an objection…lol!], but we ask people to not be jerks and steal our material to do it.”

          If he keeps coming back stronger to everything you say,
          stage 4:
          “Were you born stupid, or does telling everyone that you and me both are naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews take the place of sex for you? LEAVE OUR MATERIAL ALONE, YOU MORON!”

          Or whatever is appropriate to the particular moron you’re dealing with.

          • #71 by Benjamin Newells on 09/09/2014 - 2:26 am

            Yeah I don’t think those brainstorm lines I did were very good. We need a line that avoids the anti-white terminology like “neonazi”, etc.

            “You are hijacking the Mantra so you can spice up your sexual relationship with discussing Jews?”

            “Discussing Jews doesn’t work. The Mantra was designed to AVOID talking about Jews. So why are you STILL using IT? Retard.”

  30. #73 by Benjamin Newells on 09/09/2014 - 12:33 am

    Laura, you were totally in the right in trying to get Jimmy “jewser” M arr’s article edited/deleted.

    And seapea, you’ve joined your jewser pal? Your silence is indicative of your guilt. Shame on you.

    • #74 by Henry Davenport on 09/09/2014 - 12:46 am

      I agree completely with the “Shame on you” part, for his incredible action of blocking Laura who owns the site.

      But both of these fellows have done plenty of stuff that deserves our respect, so my own feeling is that we should treat them with the respect that they deserve and that I certainly feel for them.

      And especially since I’m inviting them both…you too, seapea…to speak up here. Having an airing will be a lot more useful than calling names like “jewser.” So let’s not do that, please.

      • #75 by Henry Davenport on 09/09/2014 - 1:04 am

        Also, it’s notable that in his actions and subsequent interviews on TV, Jimmy did it all entirely Mantra straight as far as I can see (Well, toss Leith out of that…TV clips showed the Mantra banner nestled among Swastika banners). I think that newslady Nicole Comstock interviewed Jimmy for about an hour? If he’d even intimated “jew,” I’m sure that would have been in the excerpt that was presented on TV.

        Jimmy’s article at fwg referred to jewish stuff only for the sake of humor…probably one of the main circumstances in which he would be likely to wander into that. He didn’t even realize Laura owned the site when she politely asked him to edit that stuff out, but surely he must have known that that’s our policy and that the site is a bugs related site…I wished he’d just done the simple thing and taken care of it.

        But except for his innate stubbornness that serves well when the loose cannon is pointed at the enemy, the chief problem was that Jimmy really doesn’t see talking about jews as a problem.

        • #76 by Benjamin Newells on 09/09/2014 - 1:46 am

          The increasing tendency of so called “Pro-Whites” is to use humor to talk about Jews. So they say things like “muhhh holocaust 6 trillion” and “Thanks Jews”.

          There are people who jump onto youtube comment sections to say “muhhh holocaust 6 trillion” and they think they are achieving something.

          Is Jimmy one of those people?

  31. #77 by Benjamin Newells on 09/09/2014 - 1:52 am

    They also say things like “Be a good goy and bow to your Jew master”. That sort of behaviour seems to be more indicative of a Pro-White DESPAIRING over the current situation than a BUGSER in control who knows what works.

  32. #78 by Simmons on 09/09/2014 - 7:24 am

    Ask yourselves why Wise wrote a screed using nothing but “Nazi” and not “racist?”

    Because that is where they are herding us with the help of the loser AMPWs.

    Big boy politics, the game of threes, the “anti-racists” and the jewszer types in loose alignment versus us.

    My suggestion is that we use the jewzers to spread the Mantra then when they put it out to the public we come along and do the hijacking.

    The folks at the LoS are dealing with an attempted jewser hijacking by actually driving forward instead of the old retreat and denounce.

    The usual anti-white suspects are also counting on the usual meltdown of a jew obsessive for their fund raising so be prepared to see that – that is what jewser despair porn is for to have that steady trickle of publicity seeking outbursts. They make huge money off of those poor people.

  33. #82 by Yankee Rebel on 09/09/2014 - 9:04 am

    I agree that coming to BUGS and mentioning Jews is often because of inexperience with the Mantra concept and from being overexposed to the Jew blame game at other pro-White sites. People that are coming here from those sites sometimes do believe that BUGSers just do not know about the Joos and need to be educated. When I did it early on, I got the muddy boot thrown at me- which I am grateful for. I decided to seek more knowledge about using the Mantra and I found Beefcake’s podcasts. Those podcasts helped me tremendously and I was able to better understand Bob’s “Porchtalk” audios. Beefcake’s talk on “Tailgating” was an especially good one I thought. We don’t do Jews!

    • #83 by Jason on 09/09/2014 - 9:31 am

      Maybe we need a banner across the top of BUGS for a new people that says: “We already know about the Illuminati”.

      We all transition from somewhere else. We can forgive a lot in the beginning. But Jimmy had been around, he knew where we stood.

  34. #84 by Tom Bowie on 09/09/2014 - 11:24 am

    There’s more than one direction this topic has taken; my response is just one direction.

    Many even here, may not understand or perhaps will misunderstand what I’m about to say, in part because it’s hard to explain and, also because I’m not such a wordsmith as to explain it well but, also because it will simply be hard to understand.

    Many people today would say that what Galileo understood was simple and, almost everybody takes it for granted. The fact of the matter is that it wasn’t ignorance or lack of intelligence that prevented people from understanding what Galileo was talking about, it was that what he was trying to explain was Hard.

    Many highly trained experts in specialized fields with years of experience will tell you what they do is simple, they just need a few facts or the right numbers and there you have the solution. They say this and believe it! They’ll also gladly explain how simple it is and, confuse the heck out of everybody. You’ll never convince most of them that it’s not easy; you may convince them that you’re stupid or that most people are stupid but, you will never convince them it is something that is hard.

    The N&J folks call the average person Sheeple because they’re convinced those people are stupid. After all what they’re saying is simple and anybody with half a brain can understand it.

    You’ll never convince a highly trained specialist with years of experience, a N&Jer with years of practice, Galileo (or anybody like him) that what they know is hard to understand. You can only convince them that other people are stupid; what they know however is never hard.

    On the rare occasion one of these people fully understand what they do is in fact hard, they may begin to think of themselves in a different way; as smart or superior in some way. That’s the exception not the rule.

    Now I’ve had my say and at the risk of making y’all an insufferable so-and-so; using the Mantra and doing what you do is what?

    Bonus Question: You’ll never convince a N&Jer/Specialist/Galileo of what?

    • #85 by Daniel Genseric on 09/09/2014 - 11:44 am

      This would make a great article

    • #86 by Henry Davenport on 09/09/2014 - 12:30 pm

      Brilliant and fresh, Tom, as what you have to say so often is.

      A great example of something that’s both simple and hard at the same time is special relativity. It requires no math beyond the quadratic equation that is probably taught in 8th or 9th grade today, and I had no trouble getting A’s on that material when I took beginning physics in college.

      But trying to give it a deeper look a few years ago now that my brain is old, I couldn’t get my mind around it at all, simply because it is so different. We all view space and time in the Newtonian or even pre-Newtonian way, and to stretch our brains to view it any other way is extremely hard, even though the other way that special relativity requires us to view it is extremely simple.

      For some reason all my life I’ve been good at knowing how other people see stuff, at how their minds react to stuff (I’m not so good at that now as when I was younger and was viewed as a “natural teacher”), so I had no trouble seeing immediately when I ran across the first bugster comments that this was some very hot sh*t, and I didn’t have to be told why it would be crazy to mix jews in it or even (at that time at least, and to a great extent still today IMO) to repeat the enemy’s term, the R-word. I didn’t have to stretch my brain at all for any of that (except for genocide, which took a few days of intense thought).

      The ability to understand how other people will respond to things is certainly correlated with intelligence, but it’s probably not an extremely high correlation, because the ability to feel where other people “are at” depends on a lot of other traits.

      I certainly haven’t seen clearly the point you just made, and I thank you for it. I haven’t been able to understand pro-white minds at all. I can understand everything I hear on commie radio here in Berkeley (the beliefs, why those people believe them, etc.), but the brains of Stormfronters remain a mystery to me. Perhaps because I didn’t encounter them until my old age.

  35. #87 by Daniel Genseric on 09/09/2014 - 11:29 am

    I used HD’s

    “Spreading the White Genocide meme doesn’t work if you mix it with talking about Jews, and we’re asking folks to please not do that.” – BUGS”

    And it worked the same way our minis work with anti-whites. Bites all over the bait. It serves as a great lead-in to and justification for humiliating the Mantra-hijackers.

    @EuroAmericans is getting some action after tweeting the same thing.

  36. #88 by Henry Davenport on 09/09/2014 - 11:49 am

    But Jimmy had been around, he knew where we stood.
    I assume he has to have known, but I’m pretty sure he also never swarmed, which is our basic bugser training that de-conditions and reconditions us to respond with Mantra instead of with tailgating. It took me several months of tailgating here before the corrections I received finally sank in and I finally understood what we do and started doing it.

    So being even more pig-headed than most of us, Jimmy simply does what he thinks is best instead of what Bob and the rest of us think is best, mainly because he hasn’t been trained (a word that I imagine exerts zero attraction on a person like himself) and he’s always been an outsider helping us rather than a part of us.

    In his and Kyle’s recent 3-hour jew-fest (perhaps I exaggerate slightly), be did ask with keen interest of a caller where he could find mini-mantras. In that broadcast he showed a strong admiration for what we do from BUGS, and he showed an interest in learning more about it for himself. (I emailed him a link to bugs buddy).

    To do Jews is a religion with a great mass of pro-Whites (how’s that for irony, Jimmy, in your case?) and they can’t see beyond it.

    I don’t know what the solution is…my own temperament is to be as courteous as I can (I didn’t live up to that with Kyle many weeks ago, and I apologized to him later) and hope that the bright and able ones will somehow grow out of their blindness.

    But the pressures to go the other way are enormous and constant. Under the pressures mainly of a couple of regular callers/co-hosts who practically take over Don Black’s radio program and do jew, jew, jew, the program has gotten more that way in recent months, with even co-host Roy being drawn into it sometimes. In the former one-hour program Don had on WPBR, Roy was able to avoid that completely to my recollection, but now the show is so much on that theme that it’s hard for a co-host to avoid it.

    Maybe jew-talk is okay for radio shows like Kyle’s and Don’s that very few mainstream Whites show up at anyway. In a recent email I sent Jimmy, I said that my advice was do what you want on such radio shows, but don’t do it on Mantra sites.

    But doing it anywhere may eventually come back to bite. If Mantra really gets rolling to the point that those who monitor us move us from the bottom of their list to the top, then in some TV interview like the Nicole Comstock one, Jimmy is going to be asked, “You said on a radio program…jew, jew, jew…” Not helpful, although possibly Jimmy (but I’d guess not) and certainly Kyle (as he made plain in a response to my email) think it is.

    • #89 by Jason on 09/09/2014 - 4:39 pm

      Good point about the advantage of actually doing some back and forth with anti-Whites online. A few months of it certainly helped me. Takes a while to learn we aren’t making arguments, we are making points, spreading memes.

      Suddenly having long debates over “root causes” becomes incredibly boring.

  37. #90 by scrivener on 09/09/2014 - 1:16 pm

    Something else to consider, and a lot more succinct.

    Bob told a story about Jewish Power and Influence on Capitol Hill. He said everyone is aware of it; you’d lose your job quickly if you were too oblivious to notice it. But everyone is also aware of the trouble that comes from talking about it.

    The moral of the story: if you need to get something done, don’t waste time talking and arguing about Jewish Power and Influence. Focus on what you need to get done.

    What WE need to get done is to assert our group self interests and promote public discussion of our genocide.

    • #91 by Henry Davenport on 09/09/2014 - 1:36 pm

      “succinct”

      Sorry, I realize now I could have trimmed those a lot.

      • #92 by Henry Davenport on 09/09/2014 - 2:52 pm

        …and shouldn’t even have written one of them (embarrassed)…I’m out of here for today!

        • #93 by Benjamin Newells on 09/10/2014 - 5:59 am

          Henry, don’t be embarrassed. It’s good to think things through – sometimes you need to do that before you suddenly realize how obvious the answer to your question is.

          I think the AMPWs live in a state of despair where they’re totally convinced that they CANNOT win this battle. The idea that simple slogans/memes can win this battle is simply TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE for these people.

          AMPWs are AMPWs because they don’t have a WINNING MENTALITY.

  38. #94 by Mimmy Jarr on 09/10/2014 - 12:21 pm

    Got some great advice on how to deal with BUGSers:

    “Cum on their faces and wipe your dick on their curtains. Then march to the refrigerator and make a giant sandwich. Blow a couple sonorous farts and kick their dog on the way out the door.”

    http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=206414

    • #95 by Secret Squirrel on 09/10/2014 - 1:27 pm

      Thanks for sharing your tantrum with us Jimmy. It was very entertaining.

      BTW the muddy boot is thrown at BUGSers, when we break discipline or screw up. Its a rare one with the strength of character to accept it and move on.

    • #96 by Daniel Genseric on 09/10/2014 - 2:32 pm

      Hey, whatever works for your wife, James.

    • #97 by WmWhite on 09/10/2014 - 2:35 pm

      I don’t condone foul language (usually) [1], but I can understand the anger of several pro-whites who have worked hard and even gotten “actual” Television coverage; who now show their ‘ire’ when they are denounced as something lower than (fill-in-the-blank). Bob can rant and rave because he “can get away with it” and it is something he has given 50-yrs of his life to develop. But for the rest of us, Horus gives the best advice IMO:

      Don’t go running screaming from the room (or try and crucify everyone) who says the forbidden word: JEW. Learn to engage and bring the conversation back to our points (EDUCATE OUR FELLOW Pro-Whites). You don’t want to end up like or seem like some hard headed theocrat (priestly inquisitor) –the antithesis of the ‘news and joosers.’ We are doing something totally different …

      [2]

      We are in the same conflict together but our list of allies will grow thin indeed, if we continue to throw our fellow cohorts ‘under the bus’ and then pat ourselves on the back like self-righteous defenders of the faith.

      [1] It is unfortunate that few of the paltalk conversations or Bob’s lessons (interviewed and recorded by the invaluable Laura) can be listened to with children around. It is important for our white children to be able to listen (without foul nasty language), because if we don’t teach them at a young age about White Genocide …the (school systems, churches, TV and other media) will certainly fill in the gap with the required anti-white propaganda.

      [2] Some added embellishments on my part.

    • #98 by WmWhite on 09/10/2014 - 2:39 pm

      I don’t condone foul language (usually) [1], but I can understand the anger of several pro-whites who have worked hard and even gotten “actual” Television coverage; who now show their ‘ire’ when they are denounced as something lower than (fill-in-the-blank). Bob can rant and rave because he “can get away with it” and it is something he has given 50-yrs of his life to develop. But for the rest of us, Horus gives the best advice IMO:

      “Don’t go running screaming from the room (or try and crucify everyone) who says the forbidden word: JEW. Learn to engage and bring the conversation back to our points (EDUCATE OUR FELLOW Pro-Whites). You don’t want to end up like or seem like some hard headed theocrat (priestly inquisitor) –the antithesis of the ‘news and joosers.’ We are doing something totally different …”[2]

      We are all in the same conflict together but our list of allies will grow thin indeed, if we continue to throw our fellow cohorts ‘under the bus’ and then pat ourselves on the back like self-righteous defenders of the faith.

      … … …
      [1] It is unfortunate that few of the paltalk conversations or Bob’s lessons (interviewed and recorded by the invaluable Laura) can be listened to with children around. It is important for our white children to be able to listen (without foul nasty language), because if we don’t teach them at a young age about White Genocide …the (school systems, churches, TV and other media) will certainly fill in the gap with the required anti-white propaganda.

      [2] Some added embellishments on my part.

  39. #99 by Asgardian on 09/10/2014 - 12:39 pm

    I’m not a member of VNN forum. If anyone could PLEASE copy and paste the show that I did with Tom Bowie showing how our techniques work compared 2 a joosers I would greatly appreciate it. This was a LIVE exercise we were dealing with an actual antiwhite and it’s paramount to bobs article.

    • #100 by Henry Davenport on 09/10/2014 - 2:32 pm

      You or someone paste it here and I’ll copy and post it there.

      I haven’t had a chance to listen to it yet…I hear you kicked butt royally!

      But to a typically dense pro-white, will it seem like the jooser made telling points and you just repeated yourself foolishly? Ha!

      Let’s post it anyway. It’s always possible that someone able to understand will listen to it.

      ~~~~~~~~~~

      That’s it, Jimmy, get it out of your system, lol! 😀

      Praise is happy-time, criticism is tough.

  40. #102 by Daniel Genseric on 09/10/2014 - 2:59 pm

    Common sense rears its head at VNN, despite M arr’s theatrics and Linders misunderstanding. http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1732512&postcount=32

  41. #103 by shari on 09/10/2014 - 3:05 pm

    Jimmy M arr’s last comment was pointless, childish and disgusting.

    • #104 by Henry Davenport on 09/10/2014 - 4:47 pm

      Really good comment below, shari.

      Yeah that comment blew me away too, but then I saw it was written by Lindner, and when Lindner says something like that, it’s not really remarkable, right? That kind of stuff passes for just a cyber-yawn at Alex’s site.

      Of course Jimmy showed a little insensitivity to his audience here by posting it here, but insensitivity to audience is exactly what we’re talking about, right?, so in a way his comment is right on topic.

      Wait a minute, I’m being a dunce too.

      Jimmy, there are ladies here, I’d think is part of what Shari is probably telling you. I guess it didn’t occur to you, just as it stupidly didn’t immediately occur to me, how insulting it would feel to a lady to read that, as if the ladies here don’t even exist. Man, you are not only “off the (BUGS) bus,” you are way off any any bus at all.

  42. #105 by Carloman on 09/10/2014 - 3:12 pm

    Here is a quote from the VNN Forum and my take on it:

    “This is very important, above, that you understand what’s going on. This fellow, “Jason,” is repeating a jewish BIG LIE and propaganda line: that any white man who mentions the jewish power that must go unmentioned (Sobran) is destroying himself. But in fact, those men were destroyed by jews. They didn’t destroy themselves. Jews destroyed them. Knowingly or unknowingly, “Jason” and Whitaker are carrying water for the jews. They are defaming their own race’s best men in the name of defending their race.”

    I don’t know what everyone else’s opinion is on this, but my opinion is that, IN THE PAST, it was the right thing to do to name the Jews. Henry Ford, I believe, had a lot of influence on people’s opinions AT THAT TIME. I believe that, in the 1920’s and 30’s, most White people had a better grasp of what the Jews were doing, thanks to men like Henry Ford. Surely everyone knows that Adolf Hitler and Josef Goebbels were wildly successful in convincing people of the role of the Jews AT THAT TIME. Even in the 1950’s and 60’s, if White leaders had continued to name the Jew, I think that we wouldn’t be in the mess that we are in today. Failing to name the Jew was a big mistake BACK THEN, and can be rightly condemned as moral cowardice.

    But what may have worked in the past will not work today. A man who refuses to do battle with a sword and a shield, wearing a toga and sandals, would be a coward in the past, but not today, Our enemy has better weapons today than in the past, and so our weapons must be different, too. I certainly do not defame the people who named the Jew in the past. In fact, I believe they were effective in their time. Even today, I think that David Duke is effective in reaching limited audiences who are basically already on our side. But in reaching masses new people, we must use what works, which is the Mantra. Then, after they see what is going on, and only then, do we go into root causes.

    Do you think this approach will bridge the gap with the AMPW’s?

    • #106 by scrivener on 09/10/2014 - 5:20 pm

      To respond directly to Carloman’s last question, I personally fully expect people to look indiscriminately at root causes and other smaller details once we get them to notice our genocide. They will often do this themselves, and it’s not our job to do it for them. Other people already to a great job at discussing that sort of information anyway.

      Here is a quote from the VNN Forum and my take on it:
      …But in fact, those men were destroyed by jews. They didn’t destroy themselves. Jews destroyed them.

      He’s completely missing the point. No one’s actually saying that didn’t happen. We’re saying two things:

      1.) Talking about Jewish Power and Influence is getting off topic; it’s like a plumber talking about the effects of water on the unprotected interior of your house instead of trying to locate where the leak is.

      2.) Someone at the top of White society ALLOWED their destruction–and that’s who I’m interested in.

    • #107 by Henry Davenport on 09/10/2014 - 6:35 pm

      Do you think this approach will bridge the gap with the AMPW’s?

      I think AMPWs will largely become just a memory, and our concern will be PMPWs who don’t understand that they’re scratching out what they like about the Mantra and are replacing it with “jew.”

      (Even Lindner recognizes in a small way the value of our approach: “Ok, you get genocide and anti-whitism talked about. I agree that’s important.”)

      As to bridging any gap, we’re talking about people who have a religious belief that we should all preach the word about Jews, and Whites will hear and be saved.

      But the odd fact is that Jimmy has pretty much done straight Mantra when given a mass audience. So I think he actually kind of gets it about not mixing the two topics to a mass audience.

      Here’s what I think has happened.

      1. Jimmy didn’t see fwg as a site for mass audiences, probably taking his cue on that from seapea, who stated in an email to me that the site was just for Mantra activists. (That is NOT the view of the site owner, but both jimmy and seapea probably truly didn’t know that).

      2. Jimmy has a well inside him of about 10,000 feet of anger, stubbornness, or something, that got triggered by the startling event of someone telling him what he should (not) do, which was make jew references on fwg.

      Here’s the email I sent to Jimmy, seapea, Laura and one other person when I noticed the problem on fwg. (I’ve changed seapea’s name and my own to our monikers and deleted the other addressee; otherwise it’s unedited).

      Was this too strong? I was upset by what I’d seen, but I don’t see this as being a discourteous email. Uh, at least not by Bugs standards!

      Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:05 AM
      Subject: WTF

      To Jimmy, seapea, Laura and ____:

      So are you guys going to jew up FWG.com?

      Jimmy, you’re a one man army and a hugely bright guy, but I know you’ve never really gotten it about keeping jew stuff well away from the Mantra.

      You all need to think about this long and hard instead of just drifting into it. This kind of drift is one of the biggest threats to the Mantra…the constant pressure that there will always be on it to let Jew stuff seep in, because so many people will come to the Mantra who are stuffed with jew stuff and just can’t really believe that it shouldn’t be a part of Mantrifying.

      There’s no dearth of jew stuff all over the place; there is no need for you to do it even if you think someone should do it…a thousand someones are doing it.

      You’re not putting yourselves in the place of today’s mainstream audience, and equally or more important, you’re setting a terrible example for bugsters who will come to your site.

      The Mantra approach is a very fragile jewel in the midst of pressures that will constantly work to corrupt it.

      Jimmy, say whatever you want in radio interviews, but keep jew stuff off the pages of FWG is my strong advice.

      I dropped by the site because it occurred to me to do a White House message, 

      Federally fund Fight White Genocide .Com to combat massive immigration and forced assimilation in all White countries

      It’s very demoralizing to see “goy,” “jew gold,” and a very clever (how often did Bob used to warn about that temptation) reference to the “six million” on a site that I’d hoped would be the spearhead of enlarging our whole effort.

      C’mon, Jimmy (and seapea?), control yourself!!

      HD

      “jew gold” wasn’t in Jimmy’s article, it was in a page copied from another site, which also displayed a swastika for pete’s sake.

      All of that was finally removed a few days ago; Laura says there is one other thing I didn’t notice that needs to also be removed, but the last I heard she is still unable to do that.

      This is all so completely unnecessary. But isn’t it typical when humans try to get down to business together.

      • #108 by Jason on 09/10/2014 - 6:46 pm

        HD says:

        “… we’re talking about people who have a religious belief that we should all preach the word about Jews, and Whites will hear and be saved”

        I think that really sums it up. It is a kind of religious belief, even if they are not conventionally religious. It’s like people who want to share the word about The Devil.

      • #109 by Benjamin Newells on 09/11/2014 - 2:46 am

        I quote Jimmy M arr:

        If you want to speed the process, append “Thanks Jews” to “Diversity is a code word for white genocide”

        Henry, you really need to stop defending this guy.

        Now I see why he did that protest with that banner that had the anti-whites’ words forming a swastika symbol.

        http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1732589&postcount=37

  43. #111 by shari on 09/10/2014 - 4:07 pm

    I think we also have to remember that over the last 40 or 50 yrs, an awful lot of people have been “incentivized” to take the anti-white position. They have worked and made good money and praise for being “inclusive.” If you use certain language, they will only think that you are a “hater” and that they are being perfectly good parents and grandparents teaching what amounts to, white genocide. Heck, white genocide is a shock to their minds all by itself.

  44. #112 by Carloman on 09/10/2014 - 5:39 pm

    scrivener :Other people already do a great job at discussing that sort of information anyway.

    Exactly! That’s why I think that David Duke is doing a great job, but his task is different from ours. Ours is to reach the largest audience possible and tell them about White genocide. His is to explain the cause to those who already understand what is going on.

    • #113 by Jason on 09/10/2014 - 6:20 pm

      Jews are not THE cause of White Genocide.

      White Genocide is not a project exclusively run by Jews.

      The more fundament root would WHITE RACE TRAITORS.

  45. #114 by Jason on 09/10/2014 - 6:16 pm

    Anyone notice that Bob already addressed the issue of “root causes” and it isn’t a conspiracy run by seven Jewish dwarfs in a cave somewhere.

    Remember Bob’s article on our people’s SICK self-hatred? Remember all the WHITE “intellectuals” of the past who have prided themselves on attacking Whites (or Man) as evil? And that was centuries ago.

    Remember Bob talking about how Institutions often end up putting their OWN interests above that of the people they are supposed to represent? So you get Zoroastrianism starting as a religion for Aryans ONLY eventually becoming open to all. You get the Catholic Church pushing assimilation of all races. You get evangelicals adopting babies from every third world country.

    Remembered the lectures on Wordism? That contributes to White Genocide too.

    A lack of primary, explicit LOYALTY to our own people is the most fundamental root cause of our problems and that isn’t something put into us by any alien power; rather it is something already existing that has been exploited by others.

    Learn the difference.

    • #115 by Secret Squirrel on 09/10/2014 - 11:16 pm

      With all due respect Jason, you are acting like the Jewsers. You are putting all your faith in Bob’s opinions and are pitting your faith vs their faith, which will not work.

      In reality it matters not who is behind it. It only matters White Genocide is a crime and the evidence will be available, when it is required by prosecutors. We know the NSA is recording everything now, so getting that evidence in the future will only be a matter of a freedom of information request and a data base search after that.

      These endless arguments of who did it in theory, are pointless. They are a distraction and a complete waste of time. Lets bury this nonsense.

      • #116 by Jason on 09/10/2014 - 11:39 pm

        Well I don’t think I am putting faith in Bob in that sense. I just happen to agree so I naturally think he’s brilliant!

        But you are right that wasting time on “who is behind it” is kind of a bad question.

        However, one thing I’d like to say, it is not like there is going to be tape of someone saying “okay boys, here is another way to promote White Genocide”. In fact, I would question the premise that there is a SECRET conspiracy in that way.

        Memes that promote White Genocide could be a folk song that condemns the White Man for killing all the buffalo. That isn’t something ordered in secret. It’s your friend who self-righteously states the Cherokee had Utopian societies until the White Man ruined it all.

        I would imagine that the MOST damning material is already public knowledge, stated loudly in front of a crowd. It just wasn’t explicitly called the genocide that it is.

        • #117 by Secret Squirrel on 09/11/2014 - 1:44 am

          “But you are right that wasting time on “who is behind it” is kind of a bad question.”

          I’ve come to the opinion it is tailgating. If you allow the AMPWs to maneuver you into having that discussion, the White race is lost.

          Right now we have a crime being committed and it isn’t being prosecuted. Get it to the enforcement stage and you sue any anti-White you like.

      • #118 by Jason on 09/10/2014 - 11:44 pm

        If you think there is a tape of cackling criminals using terms like “genocide” against Whites, openly plotting genocide in explicit terms, I would say it IS important NOW to understand that isn’t the way this works.

        So, it’s not exactly my “faith”, it is rather my understanding of how the real world works. What Jewsers lay out is childlike. It’s mainly intended, not to help our people, but to get the attention of a low IQ crowd of morons.

        • #119 by Henry Davenport on 09/11/2014 - 12:18 am

          I’m beginning to think that we humans don’t think very much at all, that our nature is mostly to just adopt one faith or another.

      • #120 by Benjamin Newells on 09/11/2014 - 2:34 am

        Ah yes, Carloman makes a statement implying the JOOOOOs are behind it all, Jason rightfully contradicts Carloman, and then you come in and try to shut down Jason with your “this is a waste of time” comments.

        It seems whenever anyone says “David Duke is wonderful because he focuses on how the JOOOOOs are behind it all” no one shuts this stuff down with their “this is a waste of time” comments. But they shut down anyone who denies that Jews are the only perpetrators in this Genocide.

        Why is that?

        • #121 by Secret Squirrel on 09/11/2014 - 2:51 am

          Well its time you did it then.

        • #122 by Secret Squirrel on 09/11/2014 - 2:52 am

          Shouting down? lol

          • #123 by Benjamin Newells on 09/11/2014 - 3:02 am

            BUGsers get so butthurt when they get criticized 🙂

        • #124 by Carloman on 09/11/2014 - 10:50 am

          To clarify my statement, I believe that Jews operate not so much by creating problems but by exacerbating existing problems within White society. I certainly don’t think that Jews are the only perpetrators. Once people are exposed to the Mantra, they will come to realize these things. My point is that we shouldn’t defame people in the past such as Henry Ford who made people aware of these things, and we should attempt some sort of reconciliation with AMPW so that we don’t get in each other’s way.

  46. #125 by Jason on 09/10/2014 - 6:32 pm

    Has anyone noticed that Anti-Semitism can be a form of Wordism?

    A kind of closed, static, one size fits all explanation for world events.

    Please don’t elevate Jews to the status of demi-gods. They must be chuckling somewhere.

  47. #126 by Benjamin Newells on 09/11/2014 - 3:01 am

    These “VNN” people are incapable of understanding that you need to repeat something over and over to make it stick. But this is too “boring” for them so they keep discussing their “Jew masters” in their ECHOCHAMBERs.

  48. #127 by Polar Bear on 09/11/2014 - 4:40 am

    Couldn’t agree more bob, They’re retards or White GeNOcide collaborators.

    I’ll ignore them Keep calm and just SWARM!!!

  49. #128 by Daniel Genseric on 09/11/2014 - 8:47 am

    So, we are N&J-ing today? At BUGS???

    Ctrl+F yields 226 hits for “Jew” on this article/comment page alone.

    What’s clear to me is that BUGS has normalized “anti-white” & “White Genocide” not only in the pro-white lexicon, but increasingly so – and more importantly – in the Europid lexicon. By December 31, that will be true to the tune of 43 million tangible mantra media impressions. That is huge. What can the N&J-ers point to?

    What are your stats, BRO?

    This thread, however, has largely been an exercise in regression. I mean, c’mon man….226 times? That’s all the help the self-proclaimed pro-white Intellectuals who charge us with COLLABORATION should get from us – ever.

  50. #129 by Asgardian on 09/11/2014 - 9:12 am

    Consider this my resignation, I am done. LOOK AT THIS THREAD!!! WTF???!!!!

  51. #130 by Mimmy Jarr on 09/11/2014 - 12:43 pm

    BUGS has done and may continue doing a great job of illuminating a problem that most people to do not know exists: white genocide.

    Others who understand the modus operandi of our genetic enemy do a good job of illuminating the cause of White genocide.

    For a long time the cart has been placed before the horse. People who are unaware of a problem are not prepared for a hearing of its cause.

    BUGS has played and can continue to play an important role in preparing the way.

    Bob is a man of narrow genius who has become senile. BUGS is infiltrated by the those who wish to act as Bob’s handlers. Their primary function is not to promote awareness of white genocide, but to contain it. To manage the energy flow in a direction that insures their survival.

    They track down and thwart those like myself who are beginning to undertake the transition from illumination of effects to the illumination of cause.

    I myself have subverted BUGS, but I am not the only one. The enemy is also present here. Look around and decide who is who. BUGS will remain a battleground as long as it pretends to remain neutral.

    Pretend all you want, but realize your pretensions. No one here is neutral. Everyone has an agenda. Mine should be very obvious by now. I’m not embarrassed by it in the least.

    Continue to play dumb as long as you like. Most of you are serving a noble cause whether you fully understand it or not.

    I’m not going to be sticking around here much because the heel-biters and foot-draggers sap too much of my energy. Other than that I have no hard feelings toward any of you.

    I’m going to continue to push awareness of white genocide. When proper occasions arise for me to raise awareness of its cause, I will, as I always have, do my duty there as well.

    Hail Victory – Jimmy

    • #131 by WmWhite on 09/11/2014 - 1:01 pm

      Good luck to Mimmy Jarr, anyone who fights against white genocide should be considered a friend IMO.

      At present I believe BUGS is the best approach but I try to keep an open mind in the fight for the survival of my people …white people. The enemy is never static for long and neither should we. Our strategies seem viable now but in several years things my change.

      I would be interested in who you perceive to be the infiltrators and our enemies here at this site …stay in touch, you remind me of a lot of loose canons I know.

    • #132 by Benjamin Newells on 09/11/2014 - 1:25 pm

      “But I DO take it personally when someone uses my name or the precious effective memes we have developed to throw them away on Jews.

      Our memes WORK. But you can destroy our effectiveness if you just use our memes to get in some cheap shots at Jews.”

      But you wouldn’t understand this Jimmy because you haven’t done a day of swarming in your whole life. P.s. Getting on television for 10 seconds and playing a musical instrument with pictures up doesn’t count.

    • #133 by Jason on 09/11/2014 - 4:32 pm

      Jimmy, Bob isn’t senile.

      But you are a blockhead.

  52. #134 by WmWhite on 09/11/2014 - 1:03 pm

    aside: the EDIT function is not working

    Sys Op: I’m using it to put this here. If all your equipment and software is up-to-date and your browser doesn’t preclude ajax, it works great. It’s your setup. Find a good geek and they can make it work unless everything you have is too outdated.

  53. #135 by Henry Davenport on 09/13/2014 - 3:32 am

    WmWhite writes: “Good luck to Mimmy Jarr…”

    Be careful what you wish for. Here’s an excerpt from a comment of his on VNN today:

    Remember that short TV piece I did on KVAL last year? I never told you the full story on that, but the raw interview ran for thirty minutes, and I did a whole lot of jew-talking.

    I figured Bob would blow his butt-plug when it came out, but CBS edited the interview exactly as Bob would have. Kosherized it, in other words.
    http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1733533#post1693533

    I’ve been over on VNN for a few days, letting him jerk me around.

    Politics aside, he’s not a person that anyone sane would want for a friend or next door neighbor.

    • #136 by Henry Davenport on 09/13/2014 - 3:47 am

      Don Black often says, “In this movement you meet some of the best people and some of the worse people.”

      And sometimes they’re one and the same.

    • #137 by Secret Squirrel on 09/13/2014 - 6:39 am

    • #138 by Benjamin Newells on 09/14/2014 - 5:45 am

      • #139 by Henry Davenport on 09/14/2014 - 3:34 pm

        You were so right when you commented above,

        Henry, you really need to stop defending this guy.

        Duh! 🙂

        Poor Jimmy was asked to edit his article, and his world was shaken to the core.

        We didn’t realize that our request was comparable to asking a Christian author to edit out his references to Jesus.

        “You must go forth and preach the Word about the Jews so that Whites will be Saved,” is a RELIGION, in exactly the same way that Our Most Holy Church of Political Correctness is a religion.

        Like PC, it’s a religion in the old-timey style that believes that those who don’t share the One True Faith are working for the Devil.

        Our comments above stupidly pitted reason against a RELIGION.

        Below is Rev. Jimmy’s most recent religious tract that you just linked. It’s on page 11 of this thread,
        http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=206414
        and your link is to the post itself.

        Jimmy M arr
        LOLocaust Survivor

        Join Date: May 2010
        Location: Rep Bunker
        Posts: 2,310

        Quote:
        Originally Posted by____:
        I really don’t mean to discourage the bugsters, at least they are doing something.

        Reply by J immy M arr:
        Yeah. I don’t exactly want to discourage them either. I do however want to alert them to what I’ve discovered about their organization.

        I had the same experience in the anti-war movement. Their were people involved whose primary aim was organizing opposition to the wars in the Middle East.

        But inside, and clustered around the top of that organization was another hidden organization of jews whose primary aim was to prevent any criticism of Israel and jews as the primary fomenters of war.

        The same appears to be true at BUGS. There are people there whose primary purpose is fighting white genocide, but there is another group within that group whose primary purpose is hunting down and silencing anyone who criticizes jews.

        HD is one of the more notable examples of this type. Is he a jew? I have no idea. Is he protecting jews? Definitely. Is he making it impossible for pro-white, anti-jew activists to survive and work within the BUGS environment? Absolutely.

        Is he part of a network of people who make it their business to hunt down and silence people like myself within the BUGS sphere of influence? Yes.

        Can I work in this type of environment? No.

        How could the environment be changed to make it workable for people like myself?

        1) Run DNA tests on everyone involved and all their family members, parents and grandparents and make sure no jews are involved.

        2) Make the message explicitly anti-jew, so even if jews do infiltrate the organization they can only participate in indicting themselves.

        It really is this simple, folks. BUGS needs to get real or go home, but that shouldn’t keep the rest of us from jew-proofing the message and continuing on.

        That’s what I intend to do. If I cap the message with “Anti-Nazi is just a code word for anti-White”, I doubt any jews will want to help me propagate this message.

        But if they do, what the hell?

        Arbeit macht frei.
        __________________
        Anti-Nazi is a just codeword for anti-White.

        • #140 by Henry Davenport on 09/14/2014 - 8:06 pm

          I have a compulsion to be thorough, but hopefully this is the last time I’ll feel a need to post about this episode or about this person, both of which I’m thoroughly sick of.

          October, 2013 he’d posted on WGP a TV news clip that showed his “Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white” banner displayed among the banners with swastikas up in Leith.

          On another matter, I had posted:

          Anti-whites have succeeded in putting their own slant on so much that it’s hard to find anything at all to talk about that doesn’t make one a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

          Jimmy had replied:

          Go with the flow.

          After I’d removed his TV news clip, I posted:

          Jimmy, I removed the short video TV clip you embedded because I think mainstream visitors here won’t understand that the point you were making was that pro-whites should “go with the flow” and introduce the phrase…

          ANTI-RACIST IS A CODE WORD FOR ANTI-WHITE

          …anywhere and everywhere.

          Mainstream visitors may see nothing but the particular “anywhere and everywhere” that’s recorded in the clip!

          His “go with the flow” comment bothered me, but I suppose I figured that if it meant what it seemed to mean, he’d understand our reasons for NOT going with the flow after he’d been here awhile.

          My explanation to him of why the clip was removed was of course an opportunity for him to reply to me (he didn’t reply) exactly what his views actually were.

          But I don’t think he ever exposed his views here.

          He spent several days….much more than several days, if I remember correctly…with Bob and some of the rest of us last Christmas, and he never exposed his views to us that I know of. He and I took walks (I remember one, and I think there were others) in the fields and woods, and there was never, “HD, look, I need to tell you that my views are different….”

          I had forgotten about the little blip on WGP that I recounted above, so it didn’t occur to me ask. At least that’s my memory of our time together…I have a poor memory, but if he’d told me he thought we should talk about jews, I think I would have remembered that.

          For him to have exposed his views is perhaps expecting rather much, but somehow it doesn’t look so good in hindsight. I haven’t quite got my mind around all this…I think maybe myself and possibly the rest of us have been so f*cked over in some ways by this @sshole that my mind hasn’t fully absorbed it yet.

          Oh yeah, he’s been making a lot of fun on VNN of my posting that Mantra memes aren’t meant to be discussed (Lindner had said the memes would never rise to the level that they could be “discussed” by people in power), but are meant to be absorbed.

          Why that’s funny I can’t quite see, but I suppose that’s because I don’t have rocks in my head.

          There’s no denying that so far his Mantra activism has been magnificent, but now he reveals that in part that’s because the newsfolk at KVAL edited out his jew talk (see my comment a little ways above).

  54. #141 by Undercover Lover on 09/14/2014 - 11:37 am

    Is there a way to post images on here?

    [admins & editors may – at least those lose cannons don’t seem to go off as regularly in view of our global audience – see email]

  55. #142 by Jason on 09/15/2014 - 2:17 pm

    I’m going to “push back” a little on this thread (I hate that term).

    Why are we so surprised that a modern Nazi, who apparently led a Seig Heil salute just a few years ago, would end up going off the reservation? If a guy is grown man in his 50a doing that, are we really expecting him to be On Message and self-disciplined?

    What did you really expect?

    Just be happy there was publicity for the Mantra messages. If you take a risk with full-on, uniform wearing, neo-nazis, all you can hope is that they get the message out, in a clean form, for a while. The flame out is almost certainly going to happen anyway.

    Just my opinion, I know acknowledging this obvious fact seems to enrage some. Just keep it in mind for the future.

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