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Gar 5’s Whitakerism
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 8/20/2011
Gar 5 did some thinking and came up with these for our section called “Whitakerisms”
The more money we pump into the education system, the stupider we get.
Truth is stranger than fiction, maybe that’s why people prefer fiction.
A bad generation will raise a worse generation.
Intelligence is knowing what to do. Wisdom is knowing what not to do.
The Roman empire lasted as long as the Romans did.
The smallest things have the greatest effect.
Rotten eggs make the whole cake taste bad.
If statistics ever changed anything, statisticians would be driving fast cars.
If there is an afterlife, it’s going to be chaos – all those enemies in the same place for an eternity!
You Missed the Point, Gang!
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 6/15/2011
Commenters do tend to dislike my mentioning the Catholic sex scandals, and I understand that. Normally people who talk about that are doing it to attack Catholics.
My mind doesn’t work that way.
In fact the thinking this got me off on reminded me I used to get my ammunition reloaded at the Columbia Bible College.
If you are in serious intelligence work, and not a CIA bureaucrat, Bible Belt missionaries are good people to know. If you were in the African bush or a part of Bolivia where goat is a delicacy, the nearest white man is likely to be missionary.
But can you imagine someone in the Ivy-League-run CIA bureaucracy lowering himself to go to a local Bible College to get information and basics from the only people who go into those areas on their own?
I needed information and I went to where it was.
The New York Times had a black reporter who was making up his stories. Like the black woman on the Washington Post who was making up her feature stories, nothing was done until, being black, they were inevitably offered a major award, in her case the Pulitzer.
In each case, when a major award was being offered and a giant scandal threatened, the editors suddenly declared the black was lying. The probability that they didn’t know it before is zero.
In fact, the story at the New York Times actually quoted memos over several months about this black star reporter who made up his stuff and what to do about it.
But the fiction was maintained that nobody knew about it then.
I can’t help it if the same leftists who scream about the Catholic sex scandal have this case of total Double Think where liberal newspapers are concerned. I do not believe that a newspaper, whose whole job is finding out facts, can be unaware that some of its major reporters are making it up.
By exactly the same estimate, I do not believe that any Catholic bishop could be unaware that other bishops were shifting deviates around.
But another basic fact about this whole thing has been ignored, one which liberals are as anxious to avoid as any conservative is. The Church has repeatedly stated that it did allow the deviates to run wild, and it stated flatly that the reason it did that was that it was following the expert line, the Mommy Professor line, that the deviate should be treated and not rejected.
The Church has pointed out, REPEATEDLY, that it was following the Social Expert Line of the last generation, the Liberal Line that let rapists go out repeatedly, that said that Society was responsible for the “so-called criminals.”
That is exactly what DID happen. That is what the Church SAID happened.
But I have yet to hear one single person who gets upset at me for getting angered about the whole thing even MENTION this aspect of it.
On boy molestation, the Church keeps pointing out that it did exactly what Mommy Professor said it should do. All I get is people bitching about MY saying that the Church did EXACTLY what the Church SAID it did.
If one gets out of this respectable conservative defensive mode, seeing what actually happened, what the bishops and the Pope SAY happened, is the best denunciation of giving over one’s morality to Mommy Professor that anyone could imagine.
But, damn it, this is the kind of thinking that respectable conservatives get PAID to avoid.
Be it the New York Times or the Vatican, my approach is, within the bounds of being human, as consistent as I can make it.
And only because I am so consistent I see the REAL lesson here, which some of our best commenters missed badly.
For the POPE to say that he was led into something hideous because he gave up his morality to Mommy Professor, and for BUGS commenters to say we should not touch this is, let’s say, a bit disappointing to me.
But then again, it shows me once again that, no matter how good you are getting, sometimes you still need the Old Man to point to the crux of the matter.
The Silent Treatment
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 5/25/2011
About the time we developed speech, older men began to be asked to explain things.
The old men were more and more worthless as they aged for hunting or any of the practical things. They found that they became indispensable as they began to EXPLAIN things.
And nobody Googled them.
Why is this information produced?
The old men began to pour out explanations. They could name the gods from whose spittle the universe got its beginning. They could give you the True Explanation for everything.
Any old man who said “I don’t know” was risking his reason for existence. The moment anyone asked a basic Whitakerism: “Why was this information produced?” one has a whole world view of intellectual history.
History makes it very complicated. The first old men asked these questions evolved into shamans, priests, philosophers, Intellectuals, Authorities, and Mommy Professors. One thing we become aware of is that the Truth of today will not be Truth of tomorrow. But the explanation, as usual with Whitakerisms, is so basic and simple that no one dwells on it.
Least of all the shamans, priests, philosophers, Intellectuals, Authorities and Mommy Professors.
This information is produced for different markets in each generation. And each generation is absolutely convinced that Truth has been EVOLVING to the Ultimate Truth.
Which means the Truth you have now. In every generation, people use the term “modern thought” without the slightest idea how ridiculous that makes them.
And this is where we are stuck until we question the process itself.
But the moment you SEE the process for what it is, you begin to laugh out loud when someone says “modern thought.” Where do you BEGIN to contradict someone who says “The sky is purple?”
People will openly express rage at your “questioning their most deeply held beliefs.” But if questioning their most deeply held beliefs is offensive, a Whitakerism is declaring those “modern” beliefs to be totally absurd.
Whitakerisms make you very unpopular. One is making it clear that what people call “Their most deeply held beliefs” are actually as silly as the population in The Emperor’s New Clothes.”
No one is comfortable around you. You have totally abandoned the usual discussion of Both Sides, even radicals on Both Sides, all of whom think and talk about their “sides” on modern thought that is presently being discussed.
So Creator in Iceland is getting the Silent Treatment.
Get used to it.
Getting Rid of Human Time Bombs Means Freedom of Speech for BUGS
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 5/8/2011
One commenter said they were afraid that their particular suggestion “might be overstepping the bounds.”
It didn’t.
But the point is that BUGS has no room for people who go to pieces because you DO overstep the bounds. This gives you a chance to simply say what you are thinking.
There are two reasons people fear to make suggestions that might be taken badly.
One is the human time bomb. Stormfront’s Religious section was famous for that. People were regularly cut off for saying the wrong thing or endless pages were devoted to why someone should be cut off.
So we simply have no room in BUGS for touchy people.
But this has another side to it. Our own commenters have a tough skin, too. My black little heart is gladdened when a person who uses the term “anti” is viciously and unapologetically denounced.
A person who spots one of us — including Lord Robert Hisself — saying something stupid and destructive should SAY so.
There is time to be diplomatic but there is also a time to let ‘em HAVE it.
This is all more effective if you carefully reserve the totally unkind remarks for when somebody really needs to be called down, as when they use “anti.” Extreme remarks are for extreme situations.
On the other hand, someone who needs constant kindness and diplomacy doesn’t belong in BUGS. This is a rough place.
Wars DO tend to get a bit rough.
This also gives me a lot of freedom. I keep telling you that a lot of my ideas are developed right here. You allow me to talk things out here, to think out loud in front of an intelligent and critical audience.
We are exploring a whole world of logic and observations here that no one is allowed to even THINK about elsewhere. When one is thinking in areas no one is allowed to delve into, you are inevitably going to say some totally stupid things.
Many, many of the things I have said here over the years contain embarrassing nonsense and factual nonsense.
Some of the corrections have been as disrespectful as they deserved.
I am a battle scarred old hard politics vet. That doesn’t bother me.
I only feel let down when someone does NOT tell me when they believe I am just plain WRONG.
It’s simple, but it’s always true: You only arrive at the truth by stating your proposition and having others do you the service of shooting it down.
Old Bob is NOT a human time bomb.
Saint Bob is Damned Near Human
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 5/2/2011
When I made an appeal to be sure we remember to keep our disagreement on approach with AmRen Civil, I got two comments that by themselves made the thing worthwhile.
They were sort of opposite ends of the same stick.
One commenter decided that I was writing the piece as a response to some criticism of AmRen HE had made. Another who probably resents what I said because he admires Jared Taylor, said “I thought that” meaning respect for other pro-whites, “was a given.”
To the latter writer, let me repeat that one of the basics of which we keep reminding each other here at BUGS is that NOTHING is taken as a given. We REPEAT what, in a sane world, Should be givens.
I don’t think that anyone in BUGS, AmRen or any other pro-white activity is under the impression that we live in a sane world.
Let me remind you that God gave mankind ten commandments, and when Jesus came to earth he reduced them to two. When it comes to simple decency, intellectual retention is not one of man’s outstanding virtues.
Certainly someone who has made the Mantra his main cause would not be the one to be suspected of repeating a truth purely because of some comment or to attack a fellow pro-white.
What I said about not attacking fellow pro-whites was, in fact, probably motivated by the fact that I, Saint Bob Himself, needed to hear it.
Fifty years ago I had been in practical politics enough to be sent to the Young Republican Leadership Conference. It was the only time in my life when I actually won a prize, third in actual personal canvassing that was part of the training.
In well over fifty years of politics I have developed a hide so thick it makes Moby Dick look like a newborn babe. So I shouldn’t worry about taking anything personally, right?
Wrong.
I noticed that I was enjoying it a little too much when commenters described my technique as superior to those of others. I am used to fighting it out alone, and it felt good for change.
Then it started feeling TOO good.
I also noted I was writing an awful lot of reminiscences of the times when I was regarded as the peasant sidekick to the Regular Conservatives because I actually went out there and, proudly, showed I could SPEAK FOR those Wallace Democrat types conservatives were theorizing about.
Sorry, if you’re building a Shrine to Saint Bob, the money could better be spent elsewhere.
I am practically heroic at not letting it influence me when I am treated as an outsider and still am the most loyal one around to the Cause itself.
But I am not INDIFFERENT to it. So when James Edwards takes seven years to have me on his show again and Jared refused to review my book and was never asked to speak at a convention, it was the same old same old, I had been there and done that.
But let me once again tell you something that should be a given: In the battle for power, the one person you can NEVER afford to try to fool is YOURSELF.
If that reminder was especially for anybody, it was especially for ME. If anybody here is going to get into a snit against prominent pro-whites, it is going to Ex-Saint Bob.
Way to Go, Gang!
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 4/23/2011
General Comments VII, Comment #51 by Coniglio Bianco on 4/14/2011 – 5:52 pm
Here’s someone who needs to be straightened out for ridiculing the White Genocide Evidence Project.
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/the-white-genocide-evidence-project/
I looked at the site and it was BLANKETED with the Mantra!
One of these days you will look back on those shining days when you were banned and banned and banned and BANNED!
After this time, if we get mainstream you are going to get bored out of your SKULL!
I tell people, “I resent being called a lunatic extremist. I like to think I’m right in the MIDDLE of the lunatics!”
Very few people get the real chance to get around the authorities and the general fanaticism the way we do.
It’s a tough experience, but it really makes life worth while.
A Ploy WORKED on You. You Should Be ASHAMED!
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 4/5/2011
I was happy when I saw 33 comments in response to my seventieth birthday article.
Then I was disappointed to find that many if not most of them were wasted in a debate about whether BUGSers are personally virtuous by having enough children.
This is another old tactic. Remember that the other side wants to get on ANYTHING except the Mantra. So they say you should be out having big families if you really care about your race and forget this Mantra thing.
How much good for the future of our race would it do if the few Mantra whites had huge families and did not concentrate on the Mantra? It wouldn’t do our race any good, but talking about it sure helps the anti-whites.
I can’t BELIEVE you wasted so much time on that!
At least one commenter caught the ploy and exposed it.
But the whole seminar gets a string of Fs for letting this crap roll on.
Another indicator is when someone refers to “Bob Whitaker’s writings.” You can read Dave and tell at once that he is referring to SPECIFIC points I made.
I cut off the black guy because he was not READING our point of view.
By definition, a COMMENT is on something one has READ.
But let’s return to the basic topic here:
That string of Fs for letting someone get you off topic by arguing you are not a good kid if you don’t have lots of kids.
How in the HELL did you fall for that!?
The old North Carolina saying has a deep meaning here:
You’re ugly, your feet stink, and you don’t love Jesus.” It is a false quote that makes a point.
The point is that a stupid person reacts to any opinion he dislikes by assuming that the disagreer is evil in all ways. What we are dealing with here is a related point: a person trying to justify HIMSELF rather than his POINT. So this person attacks White Rabbit on not having children:
“Are you a REAL, a GOOD white person?”
NEVER fall into that trap.
The point is not WR. The point is not about Bob Whitaker being a saint or a scumbag.
The point is the Mantra. And when you allow yourself to get off white genocide and onto whether you are good or fecund or your feet stink, you are being a friggin’ MORON.
A Training Film
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 4/2/2011
I was told about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dOfx6_1KFo&feature=related by one of our people.
It’s anti-white and it is JUST what we need!
In this diatribe you have almost every way the anti-white uses to GET OFF THE SUBJECT.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is precisely what our leaders and Stormfronters as well as the anti-whites always do.
I am so grateful to this anti-white for doing it I am in danger of doing a Hannity and kissing his ass complimenting him.
But he did do one smart thing. He actually read the Mantra, but he did it line by line, with several minutes of getting off the point after each quotation.
First he attacked, “Everybody says there is a Race problem.” Among the other dodges, he went into is “Everybody.”
I have never said everybody. I say “People say there is this race problem.”
But anti-whites’ only goal is to get off the simple logic of the Mantra. So splitting it up paragraph by paragraph is a smart move.
I am not going to describe every bit of it. There’s nothing you haven’t heard.
The old “There is no such thing as a white country.” WE don’t define the term. THEY never even MENTION Japanese or Taiwanese immigration but they go ballistic if Iceland restricts it. Immigration into white countries is such a fixed demand that it is not noticed.
The man even disputes the word “crowded!”
This is a GREAT piece. Every respectable conservative and most Stormfronters can see their own quibbles right here, all together.
What is particularly funny to me is his jumping on my saying “liberals and respectable conservatives.”
He gloatingly announces to the world that I have screwed up and admitted I am not “respectable!!!”
Boy, now THERE’S a surprise to all BUGSters. Bob does not claim the “respectable” label!
I Am Finally Doing What I SHOULD Be Doing!
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 3/27/2011
I did not write the introduction to me that is on our web page. I did add the part about me being divorced and wildly attractive but the rest came to me whole.
This is kind of thing I love, when our people just DO it and it’s GOOD.
There is a tough line between telling people you know what you are doing and bragging. Some of my stuff on this is either confused or disgusting either way. Then the writer of the summary gave me the perfect way to put it: “Bob Whitaker has been there and done that.”
Lord knows, NOBODY would deny THAT!
And it is an important description.
H. Avenger sometimes complains about how uninvolved I am, but he is the great example of someone who took the torch and runs with it. That’s what I’m AFTER.
But the fact, I AM involved. Writing this stuff is WORK. My development of ideas has gone on steadily as this writing has continued.
I am telling you here what the future is likely to be, but with me, the Future is not a Doctrine, it is a human prediction, and it takes a LOT of thought.
Four thousand articles in twelve years (Thanks, BBG!) requires a LOT of work. In those years, my audience has changed. Then I had to write for a tiny, largely theocratic Southern Nationalist audience.
Only I can see the real change! Try to imagine the terminology we used back then. Almost every paragraph I write contains a term that any other audience would need at least an article to understand. And far more than half of that terminology was developed HERE.
I am working very hard. My predictions are often astonishingly correct, but that is because I am just about the only writer about the Future whose only purpose is to BE right, not to appeal to an audience.
A professor in a real seminar is SUPPOSED to learn as much as his students do.
H. Avenger, who has not only got us thousands of readers and reaches more people than we do, but who got our entire site makeover done. He knows I’m tired and I’m on disability. He is just making it clear that I would be welcome to join in more.
My time and effort is budgeted. A lot of interviewers have given me an open invitation.
But all my time and thought should be HERE now. You have gone so far at picking up my whole system of thought that commenters are way past the stuff I had to devote articles to introducing in earlier years thorough the land mines of touchy people.
This is my golden opportunity. I EARNED it in fifty-five years of being there and going through that in the frustration YOU are now familiar with. Two heart attacks and two nervous breakdowns later, I am not an abandoned old man who was right, but I can think and speak freely HERE with intellectual peers.
This is a real Seminar, the first one in a generation, and every bit of energy I spend elsewhere has to come out of this, my real work.
I am writing and I am reading your comments and that is what I SHOULD be doing.
BUGS History
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 3/12/2011
In 1915 the Supreme Court had to knock down the very obvious violation of the fifteenth amendment that was the Grandfather Clause.
Brian was giving me some particulars about which states allowed women to vote in 1915.
There is a connection here that relates to real history. The problem is that we ignore real history to concentrate on Marxist Historical Inevitability or other nonsense.
In 1920 women were given the vote by constitutional amendment.
So why did the NAACP win its first big legal battle on the Grandfather Clause?
Because no one else at the time was interested in it.
So how did a number of states allow women to vote with a bewildering set of restrictions?
Because, in each state, somebody was INTERESTED.
This is important to BUGS.
While so many others say it’s all about Exposing Them, the Conspirators, and the entire commentary class talks about Historical Inevitability, we say that what matters is that WE, we few, are going to get the message manageable, and then we are going to get our message out.
That concept is absolutely alien to the Marxist and the Conspiracy Theorist. They see a world in which Geniuses and Capitalists have taken control.
There is a story in each state which allowed the vote. There is a story in the restrictions in each state.
Brian tells me that a lot of states only allowed women to vote in school-related issues. Every state that allowed women to vote unconditionally was a state that needed to attract female immigrants.
And in a lot of cases, when you look at the state and the exact restrictions, your reaction is “What the hell?”
By which question you are cheating yourself. Behind every single case and every single restriction is a story, a story of someone and of a society and exactly what that person was balancing and thinking about.
In other words, real history.
H. Avenger Reminds Us of Another Impossible Victory
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 2/21/2011
People come into the struggle and they leave for various reasons. I doubt Hunter or William will stop being white. Nor do I believe they will stop caring. Furthermore, being a dissident is a tough business and everyone needs a break every now and then.
WN are going through what Soviet Dissidents went through in the last stages of the Soviet Union. Who in the hell wants to be a Soviet Dissident? It was a recipe for a lot of abuse and generally they looked like masochists to the public. Of course, the public agreed with the Dissidents. That was the problem for the Soviet Union. The public agreed with the dissidents even if they did not have the courage to become one. The challenge was that saying the wrong thing in the Soviet Union and you would lose your job or worse….the Gulag.
Their struggle was very similar to ours. The white public will always agree with the average WN or Paleoconservative on almost every issue just as the Soviet Public would agree with the Dissidents on all the issues.
What happened in the Soviet Union to change things for the better? Well the big activity was in regards to something called Samizdat. Samizdat were basically the pamphlets or even little newspapers that carried their message. The problem for the dissidents was always the same. They mostly wrote their Samizdat to cater to other dissidents! And there was always lots of back biting etc. So how did they turn things around and help make history bringing down the Soviet Union?
A handful of the dissidents started listening to actual professionals who helped them fine tune their message to a razor’s edge. A small group of dissidents came out with a very similar message against the system. They basically learned to say WHAT they wanted to say without going to the Gulag. They stopped writing to other dissidents and starting writing for the public. This in turn spread like wild fire. Why? Because the public always wanted to be against the system. They always wanted to say something. Now they could do it without losing their jobs or worse.
The Soviet Union was soon gone and very few realized what had happened. Then the Dissidents became very famous and some even wealthy. But they never became famous for nitpicking and writing to other Dissidents. In fact, those facts are all but forgotten right along with the invincible Soviet Machine.
http://mindweaponsinragnarok.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/thoughts-on-the-occidental-dissenters/#comment-807
Old Blighty, Let’s Learn From the Mental Torture We Have Suffered
Posted by Bob in Bob, Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 2/6/2011
When I wrote about no specific policy demands until we are allowed to talk openly about the whole subject of white genocide, Old Blighty asked,
“Are you saying those of us that want genocide tribunals, should not discuss our desire for them? I understand if that is the case. Practical politics requires discipline.”
Let me say first that the word “tribunals” gives anti-whites too much ammunition to call us dangerous. When I precluded the word “revolution,” I really meant just be sure you aren’t giving them ammunition.
In many cases what we are doing cannot be called anything BUT revolution. But words are our ammunition. Just be sure it doesn’t blow up in your face.
Almost every mistake I advise you against is one I have made over and over and over, ad nauseam. Frankly, the reason a warning bell goes off inside me when we discuss what will happen to them after because I like it too much.
One thing that most people do not realize is that people like me and BBG have been flayed mentally for half a century. We were not allowed to reply.
There is a term for that. It’s called mental torture. I have had to curb my temper all this time. Some conservative who blandly agreed to get rid of my race I had to treat as if I respected him if our cause was to survive.
After a lifetime of mental torture, it is a little hard not to love the idea of the other side getting theirs. For some of us who have suffered mental torture, it may be a necessary relief.
I have thought a LOT about what the punishment should be.
Although it is not to do what the enemy does as a lot of people like to say, in this case we could take the whole page right out of their book.
My idea is that we should make heirs and survivors, those billionaires and those large companies, pay MONEY for what is being done.
Think about it. Big, loud tribunals have a limited life span. But rewards for informants of just one or two percent of the money they bring in will last FOREVER.
I am very serious about this. You can take money from rich people more or less indefinitely.
BIG money.
Big, big, BIG money.
Fines are not considered punishment in the same way the word “tribunal” implies. I love the idea of a future where they live like we do, never knowing when someone is going to get to the heirs of one of their ancestors who put a paid ad in the New York Times and argue that they are therefore responsible for the whole history of that publication.
Informers are going to make arguments like that, and we will sit back and help them have their fun. The entire history of the anti-white movement will be known to everybody without our saying a word.
We can pay off the national debt just as a start, with all the Gateses and their like involved. The whole history of this whole thing will be exposed DAILY.
The point is that they want us to sound like totalitarians, because every time someone imposes a totalitarian regime they point to other tyrannies. But cutting taxes by nailing race traitors is not bloody. It is more a civil action than a criminal one.
But those of us who have suffered years of mental torture are well aware that a straight prison sentence can be a lot kinder than spending your entire life wondering when somebody, somewhere, is going to comedown on you.
There is even a certain joy in being a martyr to a cause, but we will not give them that. We will just turn a lot of billionaires into multimillionaires. You can’t attach a Nazi label to that, but it is far, far more permanent under its own steam and it will NEVER go away.
This is a lesson I got out of a lifetime of mental torture.
We don’t jail people. We don’t shoot people. We just make sure the dread lasts their entire lives.
Liberals did that to us, and it is very effective.
Fresh Meat!
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 2/2/2011
It has been YEARS since one single anti-white has had the guts to take me on.
I practically wiped them out in the Opposing Views section of Stormfront. Anti-whites allow no dissenting views in public discussion.
But this is useful because year after year I keep talking about how anti-whites talk and one could get the impression that the stereotype I give is so stupid that I am hammering a straw man.
This is the response I have been talking about for years:
1) Denying there is such a things as white people;
2) screaming about how evil white people are;
3) justifying genocide;
4) wishing for genocide;
And, of course,
5) Saying that we should not be allowed to speak because I am an evil man.
I defy you to find anything else in this anti-white comment than the above points, which I have been describing for years.
Here it is:
You, Mr. Whitaker, are a horrible human being. You obviously have a severely skewed view of the world.
I know this will be deleted because none of you can stand hearing the reality of your hatred and ignorance.
Am I white? Yes. Do I think that I am better for it? No, The quality of human life has nothing to do with race. And as far as a “White country,” you could not be more mistaken.
First: The original inhabitants of America where, of course, native Americans.
Second: It was Africans who where brought here as prisoners who settled first in order to tend land used by wealthy European traders.
And third: There is no plan to assimilate the “white race” and this is because there is no such thing as a white race.
The concept of race is false.
You are all wrong. But just as the most foolish of men, you cannot bear to see the folly of your ways.
You will all be much happier when you realize the world is for all people. And yes we will all be brown one day.
I hope all your daughters marry black men
“Poor Creator” Hell! I’m Jealous
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 1/29/2011
One commenter made me feel good by pointing out that Icelandic media would not have publicized the Mantra, even in an attack article, if they had realized it was written by a professional.
If you read my descriptions of how I got sure-fire big-time opposition strategy knocked out on Capitol Hill, it reminds us of how my effectiveness was vastly increased by the fact that others took credit for what I did.
Like Iceland, they didn’t know a pro did it.
It is like a low-budget hit movie. You need a pro like me to write it, but that does no good unless a producer like Creator comes along.
We work under cover. We are not IMPORTANT enough to attack. The media want to talk about the people who get the exposure, the Tea Party and the Big Names.
So each time I began the grinding work of identifying where they were going and finding the way to derail it and explaining it to my fellows, the media didn’t watch and ended by blaming the defeat that came out of nowhere on my boss or Senator Helms or some other favorite villain.
And, as I keep pointing out, this cover gives us the chance to exert REAL power below the radar.
So you provide them an opportunity to scream how anti-white you are. In all the noise, that dagger you stuck into the heart of their program went unnoticed. Establishments often die when they begin to see nothing but each other.
The commenter is dead right. People right there in Washington never realized that I was one who was cutting their throats on a regular basis while they had Carter and two Democratic Houses of Congress and should have had it their own way.
The chances of anyone in Iceland knowing what they are dealing with here are way below negligible.
The Mantra is a computer virus in their program. Once you insert it, it changes the whole anti-white and pro-white world view as it quietly multiplies itself.
In their trash job against the lady who hit them with Mantra shows, they got to use all their distortions, but the little virus crept into their program.
The attack was a carbon copy of a million of such attacks.
But our little dagger, our little virus, is unique.
Yes, Creator, your immediate responses may have slowed a bit, though another writer told you that they haven’t.
My own opinion is that of another commenter, that your media are beginning to feel that they have let a virus into their program. The responses they are getting just aren’t right.
Believe me, in a country the size of Iceland, the one Big Bigot would be a pet project on and on.
It might be years before the real effects of the Mantra are admitted in your media or fully realized by the Icelandic public. BUT NOW IT IS THERE.
Take it from a pro: You planted the seeds and they will grow.
It is lot easier for you to get depressed than it is for me. I hammered away for years on the Mantra on STORMFRONT and all I got back was more about News and Jews. You have planted it and got a huge response.
If you want sympathy from ME, young lady, you ain’ta gonna git it.
Reply to Creator in Iceland
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 1/28/2011
Creator asks:
2 weeks ago, our Mantra video caught a big wave, here in Iceland, that is now riding it self out.
I want to find another wave, so to speak, to force this into higher circles in our society. To keep this alive and to continue the hammering on the anti-whites on different levels. Not that I find you tube great and will continue fighting the good fight there but to expand the reach.
“How do I, a lowly private, get the “a lot higher ups” attention?” “How do I get people to talk about Race all the time, openly and freely?” and so on.
I ask this because the only real reaction yet, to our Mantra video was a single article in a popular on-line media a couple of day’s ago were a “conservative respectable” wrote that we should be silenced because we “abused” what he called freedom of speech. I sent an article back today with our points, of course but am wondering about further steps to our advantage. Then we had a huge smear campaign in a tabloid.
No one is really taking the Mantra to heart here, except me, and no one is openly attacking it.
I need to find a way to provoke a “higher” up attack or find a way to attack them directly to their face in public.
Or, perhaps, it is better to let things “brew” for a bit…. let the “original shock wave” cool down a bit…???? What do you all think?
I don’t know that we have ranks in BUGS, but I think that I am rankest one here.
In a small population like that of Iceland, you could have cheap copies made of the Mantra and hand it out in front of the Althing or elsewhere.
This is not easy. For those of you who have never done it, getting out on the streets is a scary thing at first, so this is just a suggestion.
Let’s have some more input. This question is certainly not of concern only in Iceland.
Respectables
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 1/27/2011
A commenter discussed how a pro-white organization that tries to be mainstream discussed white traitors. They looked down from their heights and said calmly that those whites were only hurting themselves.
Damn if I look at them that way. In all of western culture there is nothing lower than a traitor. It is entertaining to look at the lengthy explanations of Dante’s Tenth Circle, the worst part of Hell which is frozen. They use all kinds of explanations like “a person who betrayed his benefactor.”
But the Tenth Circle is very simple.
It is for traitors.
Our Germanic legends tell of men who fought to the death around their dead leader’s body. If Infidel is the curse word of the Levantine world, traitor is the ultimate denunciation of ours.
In fact, the words are very similar. Levantine society is divided into religions rather than territorial nations. Every Moslem people adopts Arabic script. Yiddish is old German, but it is written in Hebrew letters.
An infidel is not just a wrong believer. The actual word means one who betrayed God.
Treason is the greatest crime any social animal can commit.
But there is a tremendous distinction to be made here that no Wordist would think of. It is a big one to us.
You see, a person may be loyal to respectability. National Review and liberals, to my mind, have only one real loyalty, and that is to their consensus. Please listen to me carefully here:
The correct term is not respectable conservative, but conservative respectable. If you truly THINK about that, you will get my point. The person is not conservative first, he is respectable first. He is not only part of the “mainstream,” the mainstream is his only real loyalty.
It is not a condemnation but a definition you need when you are offended by a pro-white taking a lackadaisical attitude toward traitors. He has a sort of Buckley attitude, that nothing is important enough to get a truly sophisticated person excited.
But this is not an act, it is true attitude, because Buckley kept insisting that he was part of the establishment, that his loyalty was with the consensus, a bit politically to the right of the consensus, but when the consensus moved so would he.
These people are respectables first. Buckley was in the conservative part of the consensus, but the moment any opinion was judged to be too far out, or too far back in time, he followed his real loyalty and not only went to the new consensus, but went to it more militantly if it were suddenly a “right-wing” extremist attitude.
So what you see here are the pro-white respectables, respectable first, pro-white as a modifier. They will only get excited when they are denouncing the Klan or some other offense to the consensus where their real loyalty lies.
To all respectables, we are infidels.
Concepts and the Flu
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 1/3/2011
Adelheim tells me that in Norway there was a series on national TV that discussed environment vs heredity and came down on the side of heredity. The host of the program actually pointed out that races can be different because every Olympic dash team is black, from Sweden or from Africa. I have been hammering at this for years. It is something everybody sees all the time on TV, but no one ever MENTIONS it. They also used the point about identical twins.
What Adelheim doesn’t realize is that there is a huge probability that HE got it on his country’s TV.
This is critical: You no more know whether you instilled an idea than that you caused a flu. The bug that is making the announcer in Atlanta hoarse on cable TV may well have come from someone just off the plane from San Francisco. God only knows where the person who gave it to them came from.
It is just that the general public finds a flu less painful than a thought.
Adelheim pointed out in general comments on ANOTHER incident. A professor wrote a book saying that the aim of real anti-racism is to wipe out the white race or make it a minority anywhere it exists.
Tell me THAT didn’t come from a couple of decades of hard pushing! I know that first-hand, gang! I remember the years of cowlike reactions when I stated the Mantra at conventions and in Stormfront.
I’ve done this before, a LOT. I made my LIVING at this kind of thing.
So, Adelheim, PLEASE don’t piss me off with “modesty.” When you deny that little old you couldn’t have done this Great Thing, you are also telling Bob Whitaker that his life’s work is in vain.
The one thing we really have over the other side is that we don’t NEED credit. We do this on faith and because it obeys the Golden Rule. Childishly impractical, isn’t it? But somebody important had a very good opinion of the little children.
My circuit rider grandfather used to tell a tale about a little preacher like himself who was in Heaven when all the preachers got together. The Great Evangels shouted about the giant revivals they had presided over and how many crying people they Brought to the Lord.
One of the Great Evangels who had been glorying in his own praise happened to see this small-time preacher he had known in life. He said, “I remember you, Brother. How many souls did you save?”
The little preacher replied, “One.”
The little preacher was well aware that most of the people who came weeping up at a Revival had relapsed and been Saved many times. He GUESSED and he HOPED that in some cases he had been ONE of the factors that saved one or more souls.
In short, he had FAITH. But he KNEW of only ONE soul he had saved.
Considering what Jesus said about the fate of the Proud Priest, that Great Evangel made it in by the skin of his teeth.
There is almost never a connection between the person who comes up with an insight and the one who uses it. But I made my living because mine were good enough for my boss to buy them. So this is an easier faith for me to have than for you.
But being “modest” can KILL us. Again and again the lead time is just about right for me, a person who has done this professionally for decades. The slightly morphed Mantra in Norway is no accident.
And I do NOT appreciate BUGS “modesty” about it.
Lowah Clahss Reading
Posted by Bob in Comment Responses on 12/17/2010
A commenter asked some time ago what books I am reading now.
I read lots of historical fiction. This is considered very Lowah Clahss by the Mommy Professor types, but that’s not the only reason I read it.
Historical fiction is truer. A history professor or writer for the New York Review of Books is responsible to Political Correctness and the like. A writer of historical fiction is under the gun of a million complete fanatics about history. If they describe a cloth made of a material for a towel that did not come to the country being written about, they will get a deluge of letters about it.
Margaret Frazer just came out with a new book, which I had preordered on Kindle.
I have quoted John Astruc over the years and I have preserved that quote over the years. He was Louis XIV’s chief physician and he was denouncing the germ theory of disease, with a long, long list of doctors who put it forward, in the seventeenth century.
I have never seen this sort of quote elsewhere.
Historical fiction writers always have a long piece at the end of their books to minimize the shrieks from readers who catch them out. Margaret Frazer put this at the first of her new book and explained why it was at the front.
The book was about a fifteenth century hospital. In that hospital there was a fanaticism about cleanliness that most historians would laugh at.
She also quoted the nurses there, as opposed to the doctor, who agreed with the “very common” germ theory of disease. I like to think that my mentioning this a dozen times over the years had something to do with that.
BUGS is based on a germ theory of ideas. A vast number of people use my ideas who will never hear of me.
My study of the history of medicine before I went to college readied me for the total and predictable absurdity of current “intellectual” opinion. Which is another reason I like historical fiction. New ideas about history come from there long before any historian would get paid to touch them.
Is GC5 Getting Off Track?
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 12/1/2010
I am not a Leader or a big-T Teacher, like Buddha or Confucius.
I am a coach.
So I don’t tell you to play the game, I try to instill discipline into it. This training is based, not on some new theory I have come up with, but with learning by doing. General Comments 5 has become a dream in this respect, and I don’t want to lose it.
Recently one person on GC5 asked about dealing with a freaky girl who says she is pro-white but wants to insist that there is no genocide without violence. I wrote a piece about that, giving the advice that any coach would give, put it to her and then get out of it.
Stay in the game. Stay on message.
But this thread goes on and on. Less and less people in General Comments 5 seem to be coming back from actually trying things and talking about their experiences and going into the familiar old Stormfront theorizing.
Someone suggested “a new approach,” which can be good or disastrous. It is good if it is based on PRACTICE, but no results of such practice were mentioned.
This worries the Old Coach a LOT.
This is what a Coach is FOR on the first place. The Coach is not always right. The Coach tends to see what you do wrong rather than what you do right.
As I said earlier, I am always nervous that GC5 will get off track. It seems too good to be true.
My worry is increased when an endless string seems to have begun on this girl who argues about what genocide is. Anyone who is familiar with Stormfront will recognize the symptoms.
But no one explained BUGS to this person.
When a New Idea is brought up, I need for our regulars to insert the discipline on their own. Coaching would be pointless if it did not produce new coaches.
The other, separate, incident worries me. If you have a better approach, fine. But try it first.
Imagine a couple of guys coming in to the Coach with a new theory of passing. The Coach will ask, first, “How did it work when you tried it?”
“Well, coach, we only tried it a couple of times, and there was no defense. But it’s a terrific theory. Instead of practice, let’s get the whole team together and talk about it.”
That is good enough for Stormfront, but I was hoping that GC5 had moved from the Junior High School team to the pros.
Fighting for Defeat
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 11/13/2010
Many, many times I have taken on a whole roomful of people on race. Almost invariably someone came up to me and said they were on my side, often someone who had made themselves appear to be with the crowd.
Many of the pro-whites on Stormfront will be on line but would not take the side of someone who was fighting for us in the Opposing Views section which Lord Nelson tells us I helped depopulate.
The pro-whites who did not back us up usually claimed they don’t want to get into all that, or that the pro-white was doing OK without them or whatever else a shirker always says.
But I’ll tell you one area in which those pro-whites are not shirkers. If you point out where we are making progress, they will fight you every inch of the way, until dawn if necessary.
When it comes to arguing All Is Lost, no one has the kind of energy that defeatists on Stormfront have.
I was just informed that “A BUGster who is always on message” — quite a compliment, especially considering the source — had put the Mantra in his Facebook Profile and said, “The message is spreading and we are winning.”
They came down on him like an avalanche. No, not the anti-whites; the crowd that will fight to the death to say that they love our race but All Is Lost. I honestly believe they would take pills and stay up day and night to fight for All Is Lost until the ambulance came and took them away.
When Napoleon came back from his first exile and took Paris, one old British general went to a map and pointed at Waterloo. He said, “This is where he will be defeated.”
A lot of people thought he was a Prophet. He was probably thinking, “I’ve been in this damned war for over twenty years. But they’re astonished I know how it will go.”
I feel the same way, and a lot of you are beginning to. I didn’t spend all those years developing the Mantra and trying it out and then these years with Whitaker Online because I thought all was lost. I was hitting the flint for a spark that would catch, because I knew this spark could not be quenched once it caught a set of proponents like you.
And every inch of the way I battled those who want us to read their moans and groans in huge books and whose only goal was to have others to moan the Inevitable End with them.
First of all, let me say that I have been in this and related political wars for well over half a century. More important, I have WON some. Like the old British general, I an not a Prophet. I am just a bit surprised when someone doesn’t realize that I might have an idea by now of how these things go.
Not that long ago, I was fighting alone for the Mantra and the big voices on our side consisted almost entirely of Militant Defeatists.
You and I get sick to our stomachs when we see what I call “A Jewish Wet Dream,” a very black male with a very blond girl. Every other white and most blacks do, too. It is not uncommon to hear a black say “He’s too black for HER” when a black is out to get a mulatto.
What they are doing is not only wrong, it is sickening, and they have to have everybody agreeing that it is inevitable and you better take your Tums and like it.
Whites are not trying to sneak into brown countries. A black man who gets a white woman would never marry a person who looked like the daughters they will have. He is destroying what he is after. He is evil.
This is what they cannot allow anyone to SAY. It is a house of cards, and the Mantra hits at its base.
But those who sell tomes desperately do not want anyone to see that this is a house of cards. They want it to be something dramatic, an All Powerful Conspiracy of Geniuses only they truly understand.
Others of them are simply depressives, and this world view appeals to them because it is the ideal world of a depressive.
But the bottom line is that the world view they are fighting for is not TRUE. They will fight harder for defeatism than they ever would for our race. And many of them will hate you far more than they hate any anti-white.
Thank You, Lord Nelson!
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 11/7/2010
Lord Nelson impressed the hell out of me with his reaction to a criticism I made of him. It has been discussed here a number of times.
Lord Nelson had slipped into the habit of saying that white countries were “being overwhelmed” by immigration. So he was not criticizing our established religion’s Holy of Holies, assimilation.
He didn’t realize this. He just found that for some reason this argument was easier, so he continued it.
“Being overwhelmed” keeps you from criticizing interracial marriage, so it makes things easy.
I pointed out to him why he was having such an easy time of it.
What really impressed me was that the moment I mentioned it, Lord Nelson said he was glad I had.
No ego trip, no “but I was sort of right,” just an immediate change of course and sincere thanks to me for setting him straight. THAT was the lesson of the event.
Lord Nelson just did the same thing for me Here’s his comment:
“I do get it Coach.
We are in effect dealing with a faith based belief system. Which is basically how you define a religion. I also understand your comments about the inbred stupidity of academia. It’s a very important point too!
Just a detail point. We should start to refer to ourselves as ‘Pro-Whites’. Not as WN’s or even BUGSers. It’s an important piece of propaganda. If we call ourselves ‘Pro-Whites’ then anyone who stands against us is by default, an Anti-White.
Just like all the best propaganda, this also happens to be TRUE!
In the particular subject we deal in (White Genocide) there is no middle ground. You are either Pro-White, or Anti-White. We are Pro-Whites. And we really need to start calling ourselves exactly that. We have started to use the correct term of Anti-White to label our enemies. Now to really hammer that label home. We must always refer to ourselves as PRO-WHITES!”
Lord Nelson was very deferential, but the point is I was WRONG.
One of my big crusades on SF was to make our people call our enemies, not “antis,” but anti-WHITES.
But I have not been practicing the consistency I was demanding.
So Lord Nelson pointed it out. And I want to prove that I am as good a pro-white as he is.
He is a man with good upbringing. He shows diffidence to the old man in making this correction.
But the fact is that I was dead wrong. From now on pro-white is what it is and I am sincerely grateful to the Admiral for calling me on it.
In this battle for survival, our egos don’t mean a damned thing.
Freezing at ALCOR and BUGS
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 10/8/2010
My commenters are very good to me. If you ever get tired of all that praise of me, think of it this way: Why would anyone take the trouble to participate in BUGS if he didn’t think it was very good. There are, literally, millions of blogs out there.
So when I use a comment as a starting point, I sound like I am criticizing someone who said something good about me. I appreciate the good stuff, I have an ego like anybody else. More important, like every human being, I need encouragement.
Look at what Ben Franklin said about the raw ego it takes to write an autobiography in the Introduction to HIS autobiography.
So one commenter came to my defense in criticizing another for talking about how I should live a long time. I appreciate his coming to my defense, damned few people ever did in my career. But it gives me a chance to talk about his point.
The guy who said I could live long was referring to an article where I mentioned my own death. I do it a lot. So someone who says, “Long may you wave” gets my appreciation, while most people don’t want the subject mentioned.
The writer who waved the caution sign about mentioning my death also went on to make dead accurate observations about me, how I am worried to death about not having people to carry on my THINKING. I keep talking about how Doctor Pierce said on his deathbed that no one alive could take his place in the leadership.
After all, he was talking about courtesy to normal people, and no one here confuses me with normal.
I will be frozen when I pass on. Everybody in my family had to agree not to oppose it, they have since agreed to insist on it, but none of them like it. If you know about the Ted Williams case, you can check the web, one daughter suddenly decided to make the papers by opposing his being frozen, and the legal case made his freezing cost ALCOR a mint.
My family always says I don’t know what will happen when I am frozen. My thinking is that I know EXACTLY what will happen to THEM if they’re NOT frozen.
Actually my being frozen is like BUGS and all the rest of my political life. It’s a lottery ticket. I am a hell of a lot surer about sharing my ideas this way than I am about being frozen. In both cases, I am spending a lot of effort and money on faith.
No one really does anything useful on a sure bet. The only people who do that are politicians looking forward to the next election, which is just MORE of a sure shot.
There are million politicians, but what I do is critical PRECISELY because it is a bet on the future.
How could someone like me, who has had so much power from probabilities, NOT decide on freezing?
Christ Forgives, Time Doesn’t
Posted by Bob in Bob, Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 10/5/2010
A commenter wrote a very flattering piece asking me to do more radio shows.
It makes me happy that a number of people have done that, over time.
As usual, I will use this to connect up with a lot of other things. When the Reagan Democrats brought a stunning victory for the Permanent Minority called Republicans, those who had fought this coalition would have been exposed as idiots, so an endless amount of ink was spent claiming that they had had this idea all the time.
They crawled out of being blamed, but the damage was done by many years of liberal dominance.
People tell me that they were fools when they went along with things like a Nation of Immigrants and anti-whitism, but they See the Light now.
They joined those who did incalculable damage and Jesus would forgive them.
Please note that I am Bob, not Jesus. People are so used to being welcomed when they See The Light that they expect simply saying they were wrong will do it.
A Life Lesson: Politics and power, like money and everything else in real life, is matter of timing. You know from experience that time is absolutely unforgiving. In all the words of men, the saddest are these, it might have been.
I am older and now I have BUGS. I tried hundreds of things, and I expected almost all of them to fail. I tried books, I tried radio speeches.
That was then, this is now. I am worn out and I can only do BUGS with a lot of help.
We are all responsible for NOW. When I did the radio shows and the book and the other things, they did not succeed. Everyone was busy with Real Life and the Real Movement.
So let us look at the situation NOW.
This is a very ungrateful way to deal with people who are telling me how good something was, but we must use this to face the lesson: when the programs came out, people talked about Iraq.
So I quit and went on to other things.
We all know how much damage we are going to take while the European parties try to get around race and point only at Islam and Culture.
That is NOT excusable. But it is not BOB that is saying that. What says that is inexcusable is Time.
If you liked my radio shows, there is an invaluable lesson here, and it is not about Bob. If a few people learn it, it will be more important than all my radio shows. That lesson is that, while I know how long it takes for an idea to get around and I have long since ACCEPTED how long it takes, those who take so long are not excused by reality.
Like conservatism, the movement will say they were on this Mantra stuff all along. And they will hold meetings, and the same people will applaud them just as they do those losing conservatives today.
The people who go to the top when the white genocide idea is used correctly will be the same people who resist it now. The people who make their livings off the Republican Party and conservatism are the same losers they always were.
So people will find that they are led by losers. Any hard idea will be resisted by the same people in ITS time, in National Review, in the Republican Party, in the national leadership, in the European leadership, everywhere.
That is the most important lesson one can learn, it seems to me.
You are where the action is, in BUGS. When it wins, you will get precious little credit for it because there are two general kinds of people, those who do it and those who spend their time taking credit for it.
If you keep forgiving those who take credit for it and keep respecting them and forgetting it when they See The Light, you will pay for it dearly. You can forgive them, but you can’t repair the damage as Jesus promises he can.
So my advice is, 1) get off your ass and do it NOW, and 2) don’t reward those who are doing all that damage now.
When the time comes, judge them and reject them.





The Mythical Middle Follows Screwtape’s Advice
Posted by Bob in Coaching Session, Comment Responses on 9/2/2011
Reading BUGS Swarm gives me a curious sensation — a good one!
After a lifetime spent on such things as trying to tell Republicans not to “go for the black vote” and trying to get SFers to mention the ongoing genocide of whites, it is a weird feeling that I don’t need to even answer questions about practical nose-to-nose strategy.
I have never before seen anybody who could think practically so I always find myself half-wondering when I write something BUGS SWARM.
“No, Bob, these folks can THINK.
On their own.
Just like people.”
I have mentioned that I have spent my life explaining this kind of thinking.
I have spent my life trying to get people in authority to think at a HUMAN level.
Every single “political analysis” tells respectable conservatives how they are to talk if they don’t want to be “discredited” — fired — by their masters.
In every analysis they talk about a “middle of the road.” When you repeat that, you are legitimizing the present system, truth is somewhere between the professional liberals and the professional conservatives. No one will keep his job as a paid “commentator” if he does not talk about right, left and center or if he asks “What IS a racist?” before he gets to groveling and peeing all over himself.
If you look at the actual records of ELECTED officials, very, very few are shown as middle of the road even on the charts set up by professional liberals and conservatives, the ADA and ACA voting percentages.
Almost all ELECTED congressmen are at one end or the other of the spectrum. Then every analyst says “the votes are in the middle of the road” If the election is decided in this mythical middle, why aren’t the people who actually get ELECTED there?
Screwtape pointed out to Tapeworm, Demon to Demon, that “People are always talking about how Satan puts ideas into people’s heads, but we actually spend most of our time keeping them OUT.”
“What is a racist?”
“What is the middle of the road?”
No professional analyst will ever talk about either of those questions.
Those of you who are in Swarm know first hand that our enemies can only deal with the Mantra by keeping it OUT.
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