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HD has done a lot of thinking about why our pro-white leaders refuse to use “Bob Whitaker’s Mantra.”
He has also not merely PROPOSED, but WRITTEN, a complete, coherent article.
Any editor will explain to you that there is a world of difference between a proposal and an actual DRAFT.
Old school pro-Whites who proselytize at a personal level believe that what they are doing works because they have the gratifying personal experience of bringing maybe one or two new Whites each year to a pro-White point of view.
It doesn’t occur to them that that hardly constitutes a mass campaign that opens up the public arena to discussion of White Genocide.
Dr. Duke’s work I assume brings a lot more than one or two Whites a year to a pro-white point of view, but his approach also turns many Whites away.
And how useful is a “pro-White” point of view anyway if it isn’t centered on White Genocide? We already have muddled pro-whites and even pro-white leaders (I’m thinking of a certain unforgettable letter written in reply to the ADL) calling for equal “White rights” in a multicultural society.
Dr. Duke has picked almost the very hardest issue as the one he will hammer, the issue that gets himself and the rest of us viewed as naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews, and then he tries to make his issue palatable by presenting the preservation of the White race as part of a kumbaya concern that all races be preserved.
We hammer the fact that all races other than Whites are being preserved, and it’s only the White race that’s being targeted for genocide. Our appeal is to Whites’ natural human desire for self-preservation, not to an ersatz sentiment of universality fastened upon us by anti-whites.
Dr. Duke as a propagandist may not be part of the solution. Putting front and center the issue he’s chosen to focus on for his entire career may create more of a roadblock than a road forward, and may be keeping the whole White cause, to the extent that that cause has any activism behind it at all yet, barking up the wrong tree.
Certainly all the information that’s now available on Dr. Duke’s issue has some important role to play, I would think, since it is in fact so important in what’s happening to us, but I think ideally all our Big Names like Dr. Duke would set that issue to the side for now and hammer Mantra and White Genocide.
Ain’t going to happen of course, except maybe slowly as the Big Names hopefully see the usefulness of it.
Apparently nobody noticed anything else.
Had I noticed that line, I would have denounced it as droolingly stupid.
Then I saw all this discussion of why I had approved Jewing.
As you can see, it got far, far more comments than any seriously thought-out article would have produced.
Now you see why others dedicate themselves to Jews, Jews, and more Jews.
They get lots of readers and they change absolutely nothing.
The reaction to my proposal to close down the SEMINAR led to the nearest thing we have had to a SEMINAR in a long time.
No, I am not going to abandon BUGS, but the pretense of a seminar.
The immediate practical problem is that no one else will put his name on it but me.
I use HD here because he gave the whole thing a lot of thought and what he says capsulizes in his different entries what I got from commenters as a whole.
If I understand HD, 1) I should not lose my temper, 2) BUGS has had no effect whatsoever on the term “anti-racist” and he did learn a lot back when we WERE a seminar.
My basic observation was that we had done a job on “anti-racist” so we should look at the other verbal fortresses the other side has retreated behind, like “Diversity,” fire at them and see if we can make them as sensitive to those terms as we have to anti-racist.
The answers I get are that there must be no change, that we have had no effect on anti-racist and Bob is not being nice.
My only function is to use my name here.
I can do my writing in Bob’s Meanderings.
Yes the mantra is growing rapidly in Sweden.
As the report says, the mantra and its terminology is being discussed and used, not only in forums and pro-white sites, but even anti-white sites can’t ignore it anymore.
There’s even been a bit mention of it in an article in mainstream media, where they also condemned our facebook group “Krossa antivitismen” (Crush antiwhitism).
The so called “anti-racists” are getting very defensive and don’t really seem to know how to handle the situation, since more and more people and pro-white newsblogs are starting to expose them and using the terminology. Some of them think it is a “Mantra movement” but it’s not a movement or organization. We are only a handful people pushing the mantra in Sweden, myself included. But people are also spreading it indirectly for us.
Here is one example of an “anti-racist” being defensive:
She starts off saying her name, that she is a “antiracist” and then stating, “And anti-racist is NOT a codeword for anti-white!” etc.
You can see in the comment section as well that regular people are using the terminology calling her “anti-vit”, anti-white.
The report also mentions a manifestation was canceled last summer. The background story to that is, there was this young swedish woman that got brutally raped by non-whites (like so many others) and white nationalists planned to demonstrate in her city against rapes etc.
Then the “anti-racists” made a facebook event and planned a counter demonstration “against racism and for diversity” etc.
We were just 2-3 swedish bugsters that went in and exposed them as anti-whites using the terminology and we just pointed out their contradictions. They swiftly deleted our comments but other members saw it and joined in. Even the FATHER of that raped girl joined in and started to condemn the “anti-racists” for abusing this tragedy, etc. It didn’t take long until the “antiracists” deleted and cancelled the event.
Once they lose the moral high ground and are starting to be called anti-whites, etc., they become demoralized, like that youtube anti-white girl I linked above.
I predicted some time ago that the mainstream media would bring up the mantra/our talking points this year, not in the form of articles, but on television. It happened sooner than expected (awesome), and I reckon we will soon see this development in Sweden as well.
Once they start mentioning this in TV, our terminology will truly manifest itself on the publics mind and tongues. And that is WHEN we will really affect the public debate. The wall is already starting to crack. We just have to keep smashing it.
USA, UK, Sweden are the main hot spots right now and these countries may be the first places where we will see some actual changes. And that’s because the mantra is being pushed the most in these countries. It works. Plain and simple.
“Do we really have a chance without going public?” (John Locke)
The commenter “John Locke” asked the question above regarding street activism. For some time now I’ve been thinking about this subject so I took his comment as a good opportunity to address it.
One mistake many White activists make is assuming that street activism is necessary for our success. They believe this because they see National Socialist Germany as their model. This is a mistake. The NS of Germany had to spread their message via the street because there was no other way to get a message out when they had no access to the major media sources (newspapers, radio). Today with the internet this isn’t necessary.
Since the beginning of American White Nationalism not one street demonstration/rally has made one bit of difference (in fact, in total they’ve probably had a negative effect). Even the intellectual White Nationalists with their scholarly meetings and 1000 page tomes have had more success at influencing minds compared to the street marchers. The worst elements of White Nationalist Times Past have been the street marchers. When discussing street marchers, some White Nationalists will say “at least they have balls.” It’s important to understand that it’s easy to “have balls” when you have nothing to lose or when you’re paid by the anti-Whites.
Of course, although it’s not really necessary to have street marches, it doesn’t mean it can’t be done. If people wanted to wear BUGS t-shirts with the Mantra printed on the back and clean up a public park or beach, this would be good activism. If someone wanted to hand out mantra flyers while wearing a White Rabbit costume, this too would be good. If someone wanted to walk across America (and say the mantra in the town center of all the towns they pass through) to raise awareness of White genocide (while wearing a BUGS or Follow the White Rabbit t-shirt), this could be an option as well.
The most important aspect to consider with public activism (or any dissemination of a message) is the presentation. Political theater is art. This is where one needs to take an honest look at oneself and determine if one is truly appropriate for representing the pro-White movement. If one is a poor public speaker, or prone to anger and excitability, or is just plain ugly, they should be wise enough to know that they’ll only hurt the cause they claim to advocate for. When it comes to people like this, they should accept that they’re not cut out for this role and find another way to help the cause (spreading the mantra at the SWARM, creating art, website support, financial support, writing articles).
So to answer John Locke’s question regarding street rallies and “going public,” the answer is “NO,” we don’t need to do this to “have a chance.” We just need to disseminate our message in the most attractive and creative way possible. If someone wants to try to disseminate the message using political theater on the street, then go for it. But it has to be done in an attractive and creative way.
With that said, if I were the anti-Whites and I was worried (which they are…trust me) about the message at BUGS spreading out of control, I would create a street activist entity for the purpose of polluting the message. I would populate this entity with buffoons, scumbags, and weirdos and have them go public to push the BUGS message while acting like circus monkeys.
I would then give them media attention so that they become the face of the BUGS message. I would use the SPLC to report on this entity of circus monkeys to frame them as the face of the pro-White consistent message. I would do all I could to try to associate the BUGS message with this unit of circus monkeys.
This is what I’m looking for. The enemy knows it can’t handle our message. So the best thing they can do is try to pollute it and associate it with the buffoons, scumbags, and weirdos of White Nationalist Times Past. Look for the sudden appearance of a street activism entity that starts getting a lot of media exposure.
The anti-Whites have been doing all they can to ignore BUGS, Follow the White Rabbit, and the Mantra. BUGS and Follow the White Rabbit appear nowhere on the SPLC’s or ADL’s website and this is out of fear of advertising our message for us. Of course, they’ll feature big reports on “radical right” entities with 6 people, but won’t dare say a word about BUGS or FTWR.
But they know that they have to DO SOMETHING to try to stop the spread of our message! So the anti-Whites will create this street activism entity (which may also have an internet radio show, YouTube channel, or blog) to pollute our message and associate it with the buffoons, scumbags, and weirdos of White Nationalist Times Past. Remember that the anti-Whites can’t handle a practiced BUGS Adept (they’ll never invite Bob, or the White Rabbit, or Lord Nelson, or Beefcake on a radio show or TV interview). All they can do is use dirty tricks (1). So they’ll create their own BUGSter circus monkey unit that they can handle and present it as the face of our message.
A commenter reports that every one of twenty places he put the Mantra AND LISTED IN HIS SWARM REPORT got taken down moments after he posted them.
The subtext here is that the Great Interrogator Bob Whitaker had to wait for one of YOU to tell him that announcing your specific bombing areas is dumb.
I’ve been dumb before, I’ll be dumb again.
But it is a relief to me that you are picking up points that I tried to explain years ago. But I was the only person out in the field, and you have to have been in the field to “get” my points.
For example, I said over an over and over in earlier days that the people on the other side always seemed to understand that I was a threat. It is the respectable conservatives and attitudes of some of our pro-White leaders that totally ignores what I am doing. The conclusion I should have drawn was that, while our leaders don’t ever read BUGS, the other side has long since devoted resources to monitor it.
I didn’t understand MY OWN connection, though I have been making the same point for well over a generation. I get lulled by National Review or News and Jews or people I know are brilliant and dedicated into taking my own effective work as lightly as they do.
Now let’s talk about the SUBTEXT of being a COACH rather than a leader.
In order to dodge the desbots you are varying the Mantra. For years, that threat was my absolute No-No.
OK, a high school baseball coach drills it into his team to always catch a fly ball with BOTH hands. Then they watch the big leagues and see that practically nobody uses two hands to catch a fly.
First of all, those are pros, a coach is not drilling them any more about how it is out on the field.
Secondly, a player should be fined even in the big leagues for catching with one hand. A dropped ball seldom results, but when it does it is a disaster. But it is so seldom no one bothers with it, whereas in high school it happens all the time.
So the strict Mantra will be varied on and on, but in your present league, you will hopefully SEE it when you drop the ball.
I am now to some extent coaching out of my league, because my sport had only one league, one team, and one player for decades.
This time our side’s underestimating took all the years that I should have spent in learning to deal with advanced BUGSERS.
Please note that, once you got onto this, the OTHER SIDE put heavy resources on us FAST.
Upon Bob’s insistence, I would like to announce a change in comment policy regarding the daily article.
Starting tomorrow we will enforce a policy of one comment per commenter per article per day. Any following comments or those that are off topic will be deleted, regardless of merit.
Bob and I don’t wish to discourage commenting, but we are doing this to encourage a well written and thought out comment to reduce mental diarrhea.
The swarm will not be affected by this change.
Somebody threw in “Israel for Jews” into my nice, neat, Asia for the Asians, Africa for the Africans.
Outside of satisfying your ADDICTION for talking about Jews, what GOOD does that do?
The Jews and Hitler are what every anti-white is desperate to get into. He can get off into a discussion of the Middle East
Worst of all, any mention of Jews or Israel is completely familiar to everybody, and gets their minds off of our NEW points about white genocide that they have never heard of before.
The best thing you can for anti-whites is to talk abut Jews and Communists. We work our asses off to put them on totally unfamiliar ground where they can’t come up with anything, and then some drooling institution escapee EXPOSES JOOS or Commies.
Why don’t you just cut our legs off LITERALLY.
If you come from BUGS and talk about Jews, Israel, or whatever Stormfront addiction you are addicted to, I beg you to GO ELSEWHERE.
And, please, I was in alcohol and drug recovery and I sponsored a number of people, so don’t tell me you can take just one little sip, one little mention of JOOS and then leave it alone.
If you are a jewaholic, don’t take the first goddam drink, and don’t mention the first Jew.