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The reaction to my proposal to close down the SEMINAR led to the nearest thing we have had to a SEMINAR in a long time.
No, I am not going to abandon BUGS, but the pretense of a seminar.
The immediate practical problem is that no one else will put his name on it but me.
I use HD here because he gave the whole thing a lot of thought and what he says capsulizes in his different entries what I got from commenters as a whole.
If I understand HD, 1) I should not lose my temper, 2) BUGS has had no effect whatsoever on the term “anti-racist” and he did learn a lot back when we WERE a seminar.
My basic observation was that we had done a job on “anti-racist” so we should look at the other verbal fortresses the other side has retreated behind, like “Diversity,” fire at them and see if we can make them as sensitive to those terms as we have to anti-racist.
The answers I get are that there must be no change, that we have had no effect on anti-racist and Bob is not being nice.
My only function is to use my name here.
I can do my writing in Bob’s Meanderings.
Yes the mantra is growing rapidly in Sweden.
As the report says, the mantra and its terminology is being discussed and used, not only in forums and pro-white sites, but even anti-white sites can’t ignore it anymore.
There’s even been a bit mention of it in an article in mainstream media, where they also condemned our facebook group “Krossa antivitismen” (Crush antiwhitism).
The so called “anti-racists” are getting very defensive and don’t really seem to know how to handle the situation, since more and more people and pro-white newsblogs are starting to expose them and using the terminology. Some of them think it is a “Mantra movement” but it’s not a movement or organization. We are only a handful people pushing the mantra in Sweden, myself included. But people are also spreading it indirectly for us.
Here is one example of an “anti-racist” being defensive:
She starts off saying her name, that she is a “antiracist” and then stating, “And anti-racist is NOT a codeword for anti-white!” etc.
You can see in the comment section as well that regular people are using the terminology calling her “anti-vit”, anti-white.
The report also mentions a manifestation was canceled last summer. The background story to that is, there was this young swedish woman that got brutally raped by non-whites (like so many others) and white nationalists planned to demonstrate in her city against rapes etc.
Then the “anti-racists” made a facebook event and planned a counter demonstration “against racism and for diversity” etc.
We were just 2-3 swedish bugsters that went in and exposed them as anti-whites using the terminology and we just pointed out their contradictions. They swiftly deleted our comments but other members saw it and joined in. Even the FATHER of that raped girl joined in and started to condemn the “anti-racists” for abusing this tragedy, etc. It didn’t take long until the “antiracists” deleted and cancelled the event.
Once they lose the moral high ground and are starting to be called anti-whites, etc., they become demoralized, like that youtube anti-white girl I linked above.
I predicted some time ago that the mainstream media would bring up the mantra/our talking points this year, not in the form of articles, but on television. It happened sooner than expected (awesome), and I reckon we will soon see this development in Sweden as well.
Once they start mentioning this in TV, our terminology will truly manifest itself on the publics mind and tongues. And that is WHEN we will really affect the public debate. The wall is already starting to crack. We just have to keep smashing it.
USA, UK, Sweden are the main hot spots right now and these countries may be the first places where we will see some actual changes. And that’s because the mantra is being pushed the most in these countries. It works. Plain and simple.
“Do we really have a chance without going public?” (John Locke)
The commenter “John Locke” asked the question above regarding street activism. For some time now I’ve been thinking about this subject so I took his comment as a good opportunity to address it.
One mistake many White activists make is assuming that street activism is necessary for our success. They believe this because they see National Socialist Germany as their model. This is a mistake. The NS of Germany had to spread their message via the street because there was no other way to get a message out when they had no access to the major media sources (newspapers, radio). Today with the internet this isn’t necessary.
Since the beginning of American White Nationalism not one street demonstration/rally has made one bit of difference (in fact, in total they’ve probably had a negative effect). Even the intellectual White Nationalists with their scholarly meetings and 1000 page tomes have had more success at influencing minds compared to the street marchers. The worst elements of White Nationalist Times Past have been the street marchers. When discussing street marchers, some White Nationalists will say “at least they have balls.” It’s important to understand that it’s easy to “have balls” when you have nothing to lose or when you’re paid by the anti-Whites.
Of course, although it’s not really necessary to have street marches, it doesn’t mean it can’t be done. If people wanted to wear BUGS t-shirts with the Mantra printed on the back and clean up a public park or beach, this would be good activism. If someone wanted to hand out mantra flyers while wearing a White Rabbit costume, this too would be good. If someone wanted to walk across America (and say the mantra in the town center of all the towns they pass through) to raise awareness of White genocide (while wearing a BUGS or Follow the White Rabbit t-shirt), this could be an option as well.
The most important aspect to consider with public activism (or any dissemination of a message) is the presentation. Political theater is art. This is where one needs to take an honest look at oneself and determine if one is truly appropriate for representing the pro-White movement. If one is a poor public speaker, or prone to anger and excitability, or is just plain ugly, they should be wise enough to know that they’ll only hurt the cause they claim to advocate for. When it comes to people like this, they should accept that they’re not cut out for this role and find another way to help the cause (spreading the mantra at the SWARM, creating art, website support, financial support, writing articles).
So to answer John Locke’s question regarding street rallies and “going public,” the answer is “NO,” we don’t need to do this to “have a chance.” We just need to disseminate our message in the most attractive and creative way possible. If someone wants to try to disseminate the message using political theater on the street, then go for it. But it has to be done in an attractive and creative way.
With that said, if I were the anti-Whites and I was worried (which they are…trust me) about the message at BUGS spreading out of control, I would create a street activist entity for the purpose of polluting the message. I would populate this entity with buffoons, scumbags, and weirdos and have them go public to push the BUGS message while acting like circus monkeys.
I would then give them media attention so that they become the face of the BUGS message. I would use the SPLC to report on this entity of circus monkeys to frame them as the face of the pro-White consistent message. I would do all I could to try to associate the BUGS message with this unit of circus monkeys.
This is what I’m looking for. The enemy knows it can’t handle our message. So the best thing they can do is try to pollute it and associate it with the buffoons, scumbags, and weirdos of White Nationalist Times Past. Look for the sudden appearance of a street activism entity that starts getting a lot of media exposure.
The anti-Whites have been doing all they can to ignore BUGS, Follow the White Rabbit, and the Mantra. BUGS and Follow the White Rabbit appear nowhere on the SPLC’s or ADL’s website and this is out of fear of advertising our message for us. Of course, they’ll feature big reports on “radical right” entities with 6 people, but won’t dare say a word about BUGS or FTWR.
But they know that they have to DO SOMETHING to try to stop the spread of our message! So the anti-Whites will create this street activism entity (which may also have an internet radio show, YouTube channel, or blog) to pollute our message and associate it with the buffoons, scumbags, and weirdos of White Nationalist Times Past. Remember that the anti-Whites can’t handle a practiced BUGS Adept (they’ll never invite Bob, or the White Rabbit, or Lord Nelson, or Beefcake on a radio show or TV interview). All they can do is use dirty tricks (1). So they’ll create their own BUGSter circus monkey unit that they can handle and present it as the face of our message.
A commenter reports that every one of twenty places he put the Mantra AND LISTED IN HIS SWARM REPORT got taken down moments after he posted them.
The subtext here is that the Great Interrogator Bob Whitaker had to wait for one of YOU to tell him that announcing your specific bombing areas is dumb.
I’ve been dumb before, I’ll be dumb again.
But it is a relief to me that you are picking up points that I tried to explain years ago. But I was the only person out in the field, and you have to have been in the field to “get” my points.
For example, I said over an over and over in earlier days that the people on the other side always seemed to understand that I was a threat. It is the respectable conservatives and attitudes of some of our pro-White leaders that totally ignores what I am doing. The conclusion I should have drawn was that, while our leaders don’t ever read BUGS, the other side has long since devoted resources to monitor it.
I didn’t understand MY OWN connection, though I have been making the same point for well over a generation. I get lulled by National Review or News and Jews or people I know are brilliant and dedicated into taking my own effective work as lightly as they do.
Now let’s talk about the SUBTEXT of being a COACH rather than a leader.
In order to dodge the desbots you are varying the Mantra. For years, that threat was my absolute No-No.
OK, a high school baseball coach drills it into his team to always catch a fly ball with BOTH hands. Then they watch the big leagues and see that practically nobody uses two hands to catch a fly.
First of all, those are pros, a coach is not drilling them any more about how it is out on the field.
Secondly, a player should be fined even in the big leagues for catching with one hand. A dropped ball seldom results, but when it does it is a disaster. But it is so seldom no one bothers with it, whereas in high school it happens all the time.
So the strict Mantra will be varied on and on, but in your present league, you will hopefully SEE it when you drop the ball.
I am now to some extent coaching out of my league, because my sport had only one league, one team, and one player for decades.
This time our side’s underestimating took all the years that I should have spent in learning to deal with advanced BUGSERS.
Please note that, once you got onto this, the OTHER SIDE put heavy resources on us FAST.
Upon Bob’s insistence, I would like to announce a change in comment policy regarding the daily article.
Starting tomorrow we will enforce a policy of one comment per commenter per article per day. Any following comments or those that are off topic will be deleted, regardless of merit.
Bob and I don’t wish to discourage commenting, but we are doing this to encourage a well written and thought out comment to reduce mental diarrhea.
The swarm will not be affected by this change.
Somebody threw in “Israel for Jews” into my nice, neat, Asia for the Asians, Africa for the Africans.
Outside of satisfying your ADDICTION for talking about Jews, what GOOD does that do?
The Jews and Hitler are what every anti-white is desperate to get into. He can get off into a discussion of the Middle East
Worst of all, any mention of Jews or Israel is completely familiar to everybody, and gets their minds off of our NEW points about white genocide that they have never heard of before.
The best thing you can for anti-whites is to talk abut Jews and Communists. We work our asses off to put them on totally unfamiliar ground where they can’t come up with anything, and then some drooling institution escapee EXPOSES JOOS or Commies.
Why don’t you just cut our legs off LITERALLY.
If you come from BUGS and talk about Jews, Israel, or whatever Stormfront addiction you are addicted to, I beg you to GO ELSEWHERE.
And, please, I was in alcohol and drug recovery and I sponsored a number of people, so don’t tell me you can take just one little sip, one little mention of JOOS and then leave it alone.
If you are a jewaholic, don’t take the first goddam drink, and don’t mention the first Jew.
I mentioned before that YOU were working out a shortening of the Mantra.
In BUGS, unlike other fora, one commenter did not head off for some Wise Abstract, but asked what the hell I was talking about. Actually he just politely asked what I was referring to, but I was reminded once again that in BUGS, some people actually THINK about what I say, not about how they can get deeply philosophical about it.
In short, I said something, and I got called on it. Which is what BUGS is all about.
But life was certainly a lot simpler when all I had to deal with was people who tried to make things more complicated rather than being unapologetically proletarian and calling me on what I said.
Once again, the problem with what I said was that it is simplisticated.
I insisted on the full Mantra because of the tailgating tendency. After tens of thousands of debates against the actual enemy, I was familiar with the phenomenon that is NOW, TO YOU, second nature. Now that we are knee deep in the Mantra and you have actually BEEN smashing anti-white teeth out the way I was used to doing, you cannot put yourself back in the world where nobody had any idea what Mantra Thinking was.
But to COACH, you still obviously stumble over your own feet while giggling about how smart you are.
I know you tend to forget that, just a short time ago, nobody EVER said “anti-white” unless it was about non-white antisemitism and they said, ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT FAIL, “anti-white AND anti-Semitic.”
In every case we all knew they were talking about non-white antisemitism.
I call myself a Coach rather than a Teacher or a Source of Wisdom because that gives me the right to be blunt and just plain nasty to you in a way no Confucius or Buddha would have been.
So now let us go back to my original point: you don’t realize what a short time it has been since when the term “anti-white” was utterly unknown. So you don’t know how amateurish you still look to me.
Oh, yes, compared to the average AMPW and, God knows, compared to the general population, you are geniuses.
I read your comments on those who say the white man deserves extinction, and what I do NOT see is the approach I always use and advocate here, again and again and again: 1) “You are JUSTIFYING GENOCIDE and 2) NOTHING ELSE.
The point, 1) is “You are justifying genocide,” and 2) is the most important thing in a debate is SILENCE.
My heart welled with pride when I saw someone quote Lord Nelson in an interview, when the interviewer was caught flat-footed by the Mantra and tried to get off on something, else, Lord Nelson just said, “I have made my point.”
But, to be as frank as only a Coach can be, damned few of you are Lord Nelson, and Lord Nelson often looks like an amateur in actual combat.
And THAT , ladies and gentlemen, is the reason I insisted on the FULL Mantra.
The FULL Mantra comes from tens of thousands of actual combats and conversions I did ALONE
To be brutally frank, you have not been at this long enough to deal with the obvious points they are going to make, as we all can predict, without stumbling over your own tongue.
If you are satisfied with where you are now, I will demand the FULL Mantra every single time.
I HOPE the time will come that, having been out in the field hundreds of times, you will no longer get all confused when the same point is brought up predictably for the thousandth time.
Another difference between a Coach and a Learned Teacher is that a Learned Teacher is never just plain WRONG. Here I am either right or wrong. I demand you to use the full Mantra because I frankly don’t believe any of you are smart enough or disciplined enough to run right over them on the points you know they are going to make.
I think you are going to act like “race doesn’t exist” or one of the ten thousand versions of “whites deserve it,” is somehow NEW. Like a freshman football guard, you are going to stumble over your own feet.
I don’t think you can give a shortened version of the Mantra and block them totally the way I have learned to do.
So if you wonder why I insist on the full Mantra, concentrate on the lesson only Lord Nelson seems to have gotten right, that one time.
Most of you frankly don’t know the difference, which one terrific commenter pointed out, between “population shift” and “genocide.”
When the Mantra becomes public property, we will have to go on from there.
From what I see in your comments, you will be as helpless in world of free speech as the anti-whites will be.
By now, knocking anti-whites on their asses and keeping them there should not be rocket science, on ANY of the predictable pieces of crap that crippled pro-whites for decades.
Right now, you look amateurish to me.
But it took me years, too.