When I made an appeal to be sure we remember to keep our disagreement on approach with AmRen Civil, I got two comments that by themselves made the thing worthwhile.

They were sort of opposite ends of the same stick.

One commenter decided that I was writing the piece as a response to some criticism of AmRen HE had made. Another who probably resents what I said because he admires Jared Taylor, said “I thought that” meaning respect for other pro-whites, “was a given.”

To the latter writer, let me repeat that one of the basics of which we keep reminding each other here at BUGS is that NOTHING is taken as a given. We REPEAT what, in a sane world, Should be givens.

I don’t think that anyone in BUGS, AmRen or any other pro-white activity is under the impression that we live in a sane world.

Let me remind you that God gave mankind ten commandments, and when Jesus came to earth he reduced them to two. When it comes to simple decency, intellectual retention is not one of man’s outstanding virtues.

Certainly someone who has made the Mantra his main cause would not be the one to be suspected of repeating a truth purely because of some comment or to attack a fellow pro-white.

What I said about not attacking fellow pro-whites was, in fact, probably motivated by the fact that I, Saint Bob Himself, needed to hear it.

Fifty years ago I had been in practical politics enough to be sent to the Young Republican Leadership Conference. It was the only time in my life when I actually won a prize, third in actual personal canvassing that was part of the training.

In well over fifty years of politics I have developed a hide so thick it makes Moby Dick look like a newborn babe. So I shouldn’t worry about taking anything personally, right?

Wrong.

I noticed that I was enjoying it a little too much when commenters described my technique as superior to those of others. I am used to fighting it out alone, and it felt good for change.

Then it started feeling TOO good.

I also noted I was writing an awful lot of reminiscences of the times when I was regarded as the peasant sidekick to the Regular Conservatives because I actually went out there and, proudly, showed I could SPEAK FOR those Wallace Democrat types conservatives were theorizing about.

Sorry, if you’re building a Shrine to Saint Bob, the money could better be spent elsewhere.

I am practically heroic at not letting it influence me when I am treated as an outsider and still am the most loyal one around to the Cause itself.

But I am not INDIFFERENT to it. So when James Edwards takes seven years to have me on his show again and Jared refused to review my book and was never asked to speak at a convention, it was the same old same old, I had been there and done that.

But let me once again tell you something that should be a given: In the battle for power, the one person you can NEVER afford to try to fool is YOURSELF.

If that reminder was especially for anybody, it was especially for ME. If anybody here is going to get into a snit against prominent pro-whites, it is going to Ex-Saint Bob.

General Comments VII, Comment #51 by Coniglio Bianco on 4/14/2011 – 5:52 pm

Here’s someone who needs to be straightened out for ridiculing the White Genocide Evidence Project.

http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/the-white-genocide-evidence-project/

I looked at the site and it was BLANKETED with the Mantra!

One of these days you will look back on those shining days when you were banned and banned and banned and BANNED!

After this time, if we get mainstream you are going to get bored out of your SKULL!

I tell people, “I resent being called a lunatic extremist. I like to think I’m right in the MIDDLE of the lunatics!”

Very few people get the real chance to get around the authorities and the general fanaticism the way we do.

It’s a tough experience, but it really makes life worth while.

I was happy when I saw 33 comments in response to my seventieth birthday article.

Then I was disappointed to find that many if not most of them were wasted in a debate about whether BUGSers are personally virtuous by having enough children.

This is another old tactic. Remember that the other side wants to get on ANYTHING except the Mantra. So they say you should be out having big families if you really care about your race and forget this Mantra thing.

How much good for the future of our race would it do if the few Mantra whites had huge families and did not concentrate on the Mantra? It wouldn’t do our race any good, but talking about it sure helps the anti-whites.

I can’t BELIEVE you wasted so much time on that!

At least one commenter caught the ploy and exposed it.

But the whole seminar gets a string of Fs for letting this crap roll on.

Another indicator is when someone refers to “Bob Whitaker’s writings.” You can read Dave and tell at once that he is referring to SPECIFIC points I made.

I cut off the black guy because he was not READING our point of view.

By definition, a COMMENT is on something one has READ.

But let’s return to the basic topic here:

That string of Fs for letting someone get you off topic by arguing you are not a good kid if you don’t have lots of kids.

How in the HELL did you fall for that!?

The old North Carolina saying has a deep meaning here:

You’re ugly, your feet stink, and you don’t love Jesus.” It is a false quote that makes a point.

The point is that a stupid person reacts to any opinion he dislikes by assuming that the disagreer is evil in all ways. What we are dealing with here is a related point: a person trying to justify HIMSELF rather than his POINT. So this person attacks White Rabbit on not having children:

“Are you a REAL, a GOOD white person?”

NEVER fall into that trap.

The point is not WR. The point is not about Bob Whitaker being a saint or a scumbag.

The point is the Mantra. And when you allow yourself to get off white genocide and onto whether you are good or fecund or your feet stink, you are being a friggin’ MORON.

I was told about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dOfx6_1KFo&feature=related by one of our people.

It’s anti-white and it is JUST what we need!

In this diatribe you have almost every way the anti-white uses to GET OFF THE SUBJECT.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is precisely what our leaders and Stormfronters as well as the anti-whites always do.

I am so grateful to this anti-white for doing it I am in danger of doing a Hannity and kissing his ass complimenting him.

But he did do one smart thing. He actually read the Mantra, but he did it line by line, with several minutes of getting off the point after each quotation.

First he attacked, “Everybody says there is a Race problem.” Among the other dodges, he went into is “Everybody.”

I have never said everybody. I say “People say there is this race problem.”

But anti-whites’ only goal is to get off the simple logic of the Mantra. So splitting it up paragraph by paragraph is a smart move.

I am not going to describe every bit of it. There’s nothing you haven’t heard.

The old “There is no such thing as a white country.” WE don’t define the term. THEY never even MENTION Japanese or Taiwanese immigration but they go ballistic if Iceland restricts it. Immigration into white countries is such a fixed demand that it is not noticed.

The man even disputes the word “crowded!”

This is a GREAT piece. Every respectable conservative and most Stormfronters can see their own quibbles right here, all together.

What is particularly funny to me is his jumping on my saying “liberals and respectable conservatives.”

He gloatingly announces to the world that I have screwed up and admitted I am not “respectable!!!”

Boy, now THERE’S a surprise to all BUGSters. Bob does not claim the “respectable” label!

I did not write the introduction to me that is on our web page. I did add the part about me being divorced and wildly attractive but the rest came to me whole.

This is kind of thing I love, when our people just DO it and it’s GOOD.

There is a tough line between telling people you know what you are doing and bragging. Some of my stuff on this is either confused or disgusting either way. Then the writer of the summary gave me the perfect way to put it: “Bob Whitaker has been there and done that.”

Lord knows, NOBODY would deny THAT!

And it is an important description.

H. Avenger sometimes complains about how uninvolved I am, but he is the great example of someone who took the torch and runs with it. That’s what I’m AFTER.

But the fact, I AM involved. Writing this stuff is WORK. My development of ideas has gone on steadily as this writing has continued.

I am telling you here what the future is likely to be, but with me, the Future is not a Doctrine, it is a human prediction, and it takes a LOT of thought.

Four thousand articles in twelve years (Thanks, BBG!) requires a LOT of work. In those years, my audience has changed. Then I had to write for a tiny, largely theocratic Southern Nationalist audience.

Only I can see the real change! Try to imagine the terminology we used back then. Almost every paragraph I write contains a term that any other audience would need at least an article to understand. And far more than half of that terminology was developed HERE.

I am working very hard. My predictions are often astonishingly correct, but that is because I am just about the only writer about the Future whose only purpose is to BE right, not to appeal to an audience.

A professor in a real seminar is SUPPOSED to learn as much as his students do.

H. Avenger, who has not only got us thousands of readers and reaches more people than we do, but who got our entire site makeover done. He knows I’m tired and I’m on disability. He is just making it clear that I would be welcome to join in more.

My time and effort is budgeted. A lot of interviewers have given me an open invitation.

But all my time and thought should be HERE now. You have gone so far at picking up my whole system of thought that commenters are way past the stuff I had to devote articles to introducing in earlier years thorough the land mines of touchy people.

This is my golden opportunity. I EARNED it in fifty-five years of being there and going through that in the frustration YOU are now familiar with. Two heart attacks and two nervous breakdowns later, I am not an abandoned old man who was right, but I can think and speak freely HERE with intellectual peers.

This is a real Seminar, the first one in a generation, and every bit of energy I spend elsewhere has to come out of this, my real work.

I am writing and I am reading your comments and that is what I SHOULD be doing.

In 1915 the Supreme Court had to knock down the very obvious violation of the fifteenth amendment that was the Grandfather Clause.

BoardAd was giving me some particulars about which states allowed women to vote in 1915.

There is a connection here that relates to real history. The problem is that we ignore real history to concentrate on Marxist Historical Inevitability or other nonsense.

In 1920 women were given the vote by constitutional amendment.

So why did the NAACP win its first big legal battle on the Grandfather Clause?

Because no one else at the time was interested in it.

So how did a number of states allow women to vote with a bewildering set of restrictions?

Because, in each state, somebody was INTERESTED.

This is important to BUGS.

While so many others say it’s all about Exposing Them, the Conspirators, and the entire commentary class talks about Historical Inevitability, we say that what matters is that WE, we few, are going to get the message manageable, and then we are going to get our message out.

That concept is absolutely alien to the Marxist and the Conspiracy Theorist. They see a world in which Geniuses and Capitalists have taken control.

There is a story in each state which allowed the vote. There is a story in the restrictions in each state.

BoardAd tells me that a lot of states only allowed women to vote in school-related issues. Every state that allowed women to vote unconditionally was a state that needed to attract female immigrants.

And in a lot of cases, when you look at the state and the exact restrictions, your reaction is “What the hell?”

By which question you are cheating yourself. Behind every single case and every single restriction is a story, a story of someone and of a society and exactly what that person was balancing and thinking about.

In other words, real history.

People come into the struggle and they leave for various reasons. I doubt Hunter or William will stop being white. Nor do I believe they will stop caring. Furthermore, being a dissident is a tough business and everyone needs a break every now and then.

WN are going through what Soviet Dissidents went through in the last stages of the Soviet Union. Who in the hell wants to be a Soviet Dissident? It was a recipe for a lot of abuse and generally they looked like masochists to the public. Of course, the public agreed with the Dissidents. That was the problem for the Soviet Union. The public agreed with the dissidents even if they did not have the courage to become one. The challenge was that saying the wrong thing in the Soviet Union and you would lose your job or worse….the Gulag.

Their struggle was very similar to ours. The white public will always agree with the average WN or Paleoconservative on almost every issue just as the Soviet Public would agree with the Dissidents on all the issues.

What happened in the Soviet Union to change things for the better? Well the big activity was in regards to something called Samizdat. Samizdat were basically the pamphlets or even little newspapers that carried their message. The problem for the dissidents was always the same. They mostly wrote their Samizdat to cater to other dissidents! And there was always lots of back biting etc. So how did they turn things around and help make history bringing down the Soviet Union?

A handful of the dissidents started listening to actual professionals who helped them fine tune their message to a razor’s edge. A small group of dissidents came out with a very similar message against the system. They basically learned to say WHAT they wanted to say without going to the Gulag. They stopped writing to other dissidents and starting writing for the public. This in turn spread like wild fire. Why? Because the public always wanted to be against the system. They always wanted to say something. Now they could do it without losing their jobs or worse.

The Soviet Union was soon gone and very few realized what had happened. Then the Dissidents became very famous and some even wealthy. But they never became famous for nitpicking and writing to other Dissidents. In fact, those facts are all but forgotten right along with the invincible Soviet Machine.

http://mindweaponsinragnarok.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/thoughts-on-the-occidental-dissenters/#comment-807