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12/20/2011 at 8:18 pm #14583

Genseric

Yet another field office in which BUGS can now conduct even MORE business. Don Black set it up.

Thanks, Don!

Subforum Location
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/f214/
Request thread
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t837564-2/

12/20/2011 at 8:25 pm #14586

WolfieC

FECKING AWESOME!
Woot!

12/30/2011 at 1:49 am #14918

Harumphty Dumpty

“Anyway, if you need any extra manpower for swarming by all means send me a PM.”

That was by an SF poster on our sub-forum thread “What is the Mantra,” even though over a quarter of the posts on that thread had in their signatures our invitational phrase, “Join the BUGS Team! Post on the internet along with us to fight White Genocide!”

Even though the poster seemed like just a happy-to-just-talk-about-things type, he’s made me wonder if our invitational phrase, “Join the BUGS Team! Post on the internet along with us to fight White Genocide!” is not as clearly invitational as we think.

I know that sounds crazy, but remember that we know our SF sub-forum is for the purpose of recruiting, but most SF’ers who stumble across it may assume our subforum is just a discussion forum like all the others that are all they know!

And as for our invitational phrase, it won’t strike them as any different from links in other SF’ers signatures that have to do with posters’ personally favorite sites.

I think we goofed. We looked at what we’re doing on our SF subforum through our own eyes instead of through the eyes of the SF’ers who will take a look there. (I don’t agree entirely with what I’m saying, because after all we are clearly DOING something….that will certainly be obvious to everyone who comes there (?))

But maybe we need some stronger red-and-blue invitations in our signatures there in addition to the one we have:

1. “We need more BUGSTERS!”

2. A drawing of Bob looking like Uncle Sam and pointing at the reader and saying, “Uncle Bob needs YOU!”

12/30/2011 at 2:12 am #14919

WolfieC

MaxVictory needs his ass handed to him.
Its a distraction, per usual.
Big Boy request, pls?

12/30/2011 at 9:05 am #14945

Harumphty Dumpty

I have a suggestion about this sub-forum, based on my experience there last night with MaxVictory on our thread, “What is the Mantra?”

And notice that I said “our” thread. But let’s remember that SF’ers who wander over to it will consider it “their” thread, since it’s on SF, right? I think those two different ways of viewing the thread played a large part in what happened there last night, which is that we ALL got caught up one way or another in long discussion (vituperative, in some instances) with MaxVictory (who I came to rather admire last night btw).

If it could be done over (and it will be, ad infinitum), here’s what I would like: let the excellent poster MaxVictory and the excellent poster and bugster Valeman have their long, interesting, and extremely civil and very friendly discussion.

The rest of us on that thread: Post about something ELSE that has to do with the Mantra, and do NOT get involved in the discussion with Max!

In other words, don’t refuse intellectual discussion with those for whom that is their way of coming to this material, but keep it as small a part of the thread as possible by letting just one person who can maintain a civil feeling deal with it.

Now I don’t feel confident about that, especially since I believe it contradicts Horus’ instructions not to debate even on pro-White threads (I MUST start listening to his podcasts!) but to just bugster there. But based on my time at OO and SF seeing how we are doing there, I think it needs to be a combination of the two.

But I’m willing to follow Horus’ instruction if his instruction is still the same. And in any case, my brain is worn out from my time on OO generating arguments for those guys, so I don’t plan to be the one arguing with them in any case.

But I do think it would take a lot of talent to address only with bugstering the question that the title of that thread asks, “What is the Mantra?”

In any case, whether we argue or not, shouldn’t we be civil and friendly? This point needs discussion, because not all people here feel that’s the best way!

12/30/2011 at 9:22 am #14949

H.Avenger

There is still a lot of ignorance in regards to what we are doing. That is why I spoke at the Stormfront conference. And the BUGS speach at the Stormfront Conference put the likes of Don Black on message. I wish we had the speech out on mp3…..

12/30/2011 at 9:25 am #14950

Harumphty Dumpty

1. Any pro-White who addresses us civilly in his posts should be replied to in a completely civil and friendly manner.

2. We should not consider a pro-White to be addressing us UNcivilly when he is only disagreeing with and criticizing our methods, and so we should reply to such a poster in a completely civil and friendly manner. If he is criticizing our methods without having observed them in action, we should remind ourselves that as silly as that seems to us, it doesn’t seem silly to him if he has never even thought in terms of action. And so if we suggest he precede his critique with some actual experience of us, we should do that completely from a civil and friendly feeling! And similarly for similar situations!

Agree? Disagree?

12/30/2011 at 9:44 am #14951

Gar5

We should totally avoid arguing about the Mantra and what it does, and what we do.

People can click on the subforum or wdyptmt? (where did you post the mantra today?) and see for themselves.

Bob said (paraphrasing) “don’t argue, make a point”, IMO this should apply to when we talk to pro-Whites as well.

12/30/2011 at 10:40 am #14954

Harumphty Dumpty

I just linked this thread in a post to a companion thread on our SF sub-forum
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t856117/#post9859179

If such transparency becomes a problem, we can start a new thread here.

12/31/2011 at 10:27 pm #15026

Harumphty Dumpty

Discussion here seems to have shifted over to this thread:

http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/topic/discussion-thread-pro-whites-that-disagree-with-our-methods-and-want-to-argue/#post-15006

1/25/2012 at 3:44 am #16389

Harumphty Dumpty

Anyone have any comments on what went down on Swarmfront last night, on the “New To BUGS? Want to learn how we work?” thread?

After the present row is done, I’m going to take a vow to never visit Swarmfront again. It’s like we’ve set up a second home on the grounds of an insane asylum and are required to keep our doors open for any lunatic who wanders in and wants to do his shtick.

1/25/2012 at 4:12 am #16390

Gar5

@ Harumpty

Unfortunately, the majority of Stormfront are keyboard warrior N&J types. I didn’t expect it to run as smoothly as Bugs. Some of the pro-Whites that wander onto Swarmfront and try to prove us wrong have very stubborn opinions, so I think we should keep arguing down to a minimum and just make points.

Still, it has it’s purposes. The main one being that it spreads our message.

1/25/2012 at 4:14 am #16391

OldBlighty

HD
I think if you are going to apologize to someone, who has been trolling us, then you shouldn’t go there again. He has avoided every question we have asked and has called us every name in the book. I think you might be suffering a case of battered wife syndrome and no I am not being mean to you HD, I am just saying how it looks. We knocked this guy down and you are helping him up.

P.S.
I find it amazing how the Mantra attracts people that don’t want Whites talking about White GeNOcide. Even at Stormfront of all places!

1/25/2012 at 5:06 am #16395

Harumphty Dumpty

OB: “battered wife syndrome” Ha! You may be right! But at least I’m breaking the ties that bind once my exchange with invictus is done. Please shoot me if I go back after that.

But I don’t understand what you guys are trying to do there either. MaxVictory, Invictus…once that type shows up, does what ensues serve any purpose at all? You seem to be dealing with them now just as if they were anti-Whites. Who is our audience there who will be swayed to our side by observing the battle? The whole bunch seems like a small town who feel they’re being invaded, and care about nothing except protecting their pleasant little pro-White community with all its pleasant customs. Are there presumably other observers?

OB, I’m by nature a peace-maker when I’m not going ape, and I insulted victus rather badly before he ever insulted me, so when I’d implied that he and all the rest there were lunatics in an asylum, I didn’t feel it out of place to acknowledge in passing that he might feel insulted…that hardly constituted an apology. I only apologize when I feel I’ve been undeservingly inconsiderate.

Well carry on as you think best of course, and no need to waste time explaining to me…I hate the waste of time Swarmfront has been for me, IMO. I’ll post a little elsewhere on Stormfront and try to bring our themes in, and have my Mantric signature. But after my conversation with victus is done, I’m done with Swarmfront. By God, it was interesting!

1/25/2012 at 5:08 am #16396

Harumphty Dumpty

OB: re your P.S.: Yes, that’s fascinating! Swarmfront has been an experience I’ll be reflecting on for a while.

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