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  • #9729

    Daniel Genseric
    Participant

    Please critique this Mantra talker as a reply to “genocide isn’t happening. Violence and killings are needed to meet the genocide criteria and for people to take you serious they are going to want examples of this ‘genocide’ you speak of.” Are there legal concerns with implying certain powers that be are somewhat/openly engaged in genocide? Does that make one an enemy of the state? Is that a punishable offense some how?

    “The anti-Whites who push these defacto programs do so while ignoring the immigration laws already ON THE BOOKS, suing & threatening the state of Arizona over SB1070, suing & threatening the state of Alabama over H.B. 56, imposing back door amnesty, ICE Director refuses to enforce the immigration laws, shouting down & silencing political dissidents, brainwashing White children and young people with “socially acceptable” programs on T.V. (i.e. multicultural/multiracial programming on everything from PBS cartoons to MTV reality sex shows to the ever-important, rite of passage Weinstein flicks), pushing abortion in majority-White communities, etc… “

    #9744

    @genseric,it`s not directly addressing their main point-that genocide supposedly has to involve violence and killing.That needs to be tackled head on with the article 2 genocide convention quote or the Malcom Foster quote,IMO.

    #9746

    Sorry,I meant Malcom Fraser quote.

    #9747

    “Genocide involves the attempt to achieve the disappearance of a group by whatever means. It does not have to be violent, it could be a combination of policies that would lead to a certain group dying out.”

    Malcolm Fraser (Prime Minister of Australia 1975-1983)

    #9748

    scrivener
    Spectator

    I have a response that works well in response to “there are no mass killings of Whites” AND “well, it still has to be deliberate; immigration is just natural”

    The political decision to open the floodgates to non-White immigration (w/ out a popular vote) WAS deliberate. The political decision to force integrate White neighborhoods was deliberate. The political decision to put out PSAs that encourage interracial coupling was deliberate.

    Don’t kid yourself. It doesn’t have to be immediate killing to be genocide under the law. It only need be INTENT that there be fewer Whites coupled with an ACT

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

    #9769

    Daniel Genseric
    Participant

    @dungeon Thanks for this. It seems that the response I made falls victim to their agenda of “talking about anything BUT genocide” in that it opens the door for too many segues or tangential arguments. I missed an opportunity to funnel that energy into the UN and ICC talkers.

    Thank you.

    #9770

    Daniel Genseric
    Participant

    @Scriv Thanks for this. I like how your reply incorporates some of the DATA they claim to seek. AND it lays it all out there for the audience on the violent/non-violent front.

    #9892

    Gator61
    Spectator

    Hey you video makers, do you need some pictures of bloody white genocide. Check out this page about murders in South Africa.

    http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/p/photo-gallery.html

    #9938

    Gator61
    Spectator

    Opinions on this little rant?

    I kind of like it, but suggestions are welcome.

    @StockleyDan So what. White people are here and we have a right to exist. We have a right to our own countries. It really doesn’t matter to me when we diverged from the African population. All of that is justification for blending White people out of existence. Take your hate and your genocide and go to South Africa. They are actually killing White people there. That should make you happy

    #9939

    I like it Gator,the only thing I`d change is “It really doesn’t matter to me when we diverged… ” to “It doesn’t matter when we diverged…”

    #9972

    scrivener
    Spectator

    Remember, if someone hits you with a complicated question… ESPECIALLY if it has to do with semantics, there is a simple mantra answer. Sometimes, it takes a bit of ruminating to provide one that will look seamless to the audience.

    For example, I used to have trouble when someone would say something like “Latino” isn’t a race, or “Asian” isn’t a race.

    My old SF instinct is to stop and clarify my meaning. I suppress this instinct, because it’s not talking about genocide, and it’s probably an exercise in futility in that my audience understands exactly what I’m talking about. Either way, it’s a waste of time to address it.

    But it was still frustrating. In the past, I’d either ignore the point and talk about another thing they’d said, or I’d restate my original point using more carefully tailored terminology.

    Then I had a breakthrough that makes a mantra point, leads right back to the mantra, and puts some egg on the anti-White’s face.

    Here is the response to “Latino isn’t a race” (if they’re saying something else, like “Asian” or something, just sub that term):

    Hey, don’t look at me. I’m taking my cue from you anti-Whites. If I say anything bad about Latinos, I’m not called a “culturalist,” I’m called “racist.” Sorry if I take you at your word.

    Then repeat your point…

    #9994

    Gator61
    Spectator

    Looks like someone is trying his own consistent message on HeyRuka’s latest video.

    blokcom  (4 hours ago)

    Race Realism is a code word for Real Racism.

    #9995

    “Race Realism is a code word for Real Racism.”

    I can only see Real Racialism in that statement 🙂

    #10022

    Gator61
    Spectator

    How do ya’ll feel about asking the anti-Whites these two questions together and asking them over and over.

    Why are you trying to justify genocide? What personal advantage do you hope to gain for you or your children from the elimination of the White race?

    #10088

    Gator61
    Spectator

    What do you think is best approach for dealing with a WN who is not a part of this happy band of brothers, and happens upon a swam and joins in the fray but gets off topic?

    Or perhaps he is a pink rabbit sock puppet who will allow the anti-Whites to get back on their talking points.

    My opinion is we should reply to them directly and say something along the lines of

    It doesn’t matter which race has the highest IQ, which race is the most athletic, which race invented the most uses for the peanut, which race builds the best civilizations. What matters is my people exist and our children have a right to a future.

    Other opinions?

    #10157

    Gator61
    Spectator

    The Mantra in 4 youtube sized chunks.

    1/4
    Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

    The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

    2/4
    Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

    What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

    3/4
    How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

    And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

    But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    4/4
    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

    What they advocate is genocide.

    #10158

    @gatror,breaking up the mantra that way loses the cadence of the last segment,IMO.

    I`ve always split the mantra up on the 2-sentence structure for the 1st 3 segments so that the last segment is intact:

    4/4 But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

    What they advocate is genocide.

    #10159

    whoops,I did`nt realize you`d added the last line.

    Why do you need to add that last line gator?

    #10160

    Gator61
    Spectator

    @dungeoneer

    Post your split if you think it is better. My feelings won’t be hurt and I may just use yours.

    I just posted it because I got aggravated trying to remember where to split it to get it all in. I figured others might have the same problem.

    “What they advocate is genocide”

    I just like to get an extra mention of genocide in there.

    #10162

    My split is:

    P1:
    Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

    The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

    P2
    Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

    What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

    P3
    How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

    And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

    P4
    But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives alike say that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

    Gator:”I just like to get an extra mention of genocide in there.”

    Just my opinion,but when i`m gong full mantra I like to keep it to the original.

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