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  • #28762

    Daniel Genseric
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    This thread has devolved into a total Jon Lock, 6-nug chicken choke.

    GTFO and post the Mantra. Where the hell is dungeon crawler?

    Probably doing what he is supposed to be doing, posting the Mantra far and wide.

    #28763

    J Locke
    Participant

    Daniel, well maybe you would like these hard facts:
    I did the math on our prospects for reaching the masses.
    3k people posting 5 mantras a day = 15,000 mantra posts per day
    if each mantra post averages at 3 people seeing it, that means 45,000 people reached each day
    that would be 315,000 people reached per week
    9.4 million reached per month
    113.4 million reached per year
    There are about 210 million Whites in America alone, far more in Europe
     
    How are we going to reach them with those kind of numbers?

    It’s something to consider.
    This thread has given some evidence of Mantra success, and we should have surveys to estimate mantra effectiveness, Genseric. We need to know the mantra is effective, and most people don’t believe it is. That’s why people don’t post links.

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 1 week ago by  J Locke.
    #28765

    J Locke
    Participant

    Ok, maybe each mantra post will be seen by more than 3 people. But the 3k posters posting 5 mantras per day mark is something unrealistic unless we do something.

    #28767

    J Locke
    Participant

    Fixed how I worded this:

    3k people posting 5 mantras a day = 15,000 mantra posts per day.
    If each mantra post averages 3 people seeing it, that means 45,000 people reached for each post.

    That would be 315,000 reached from a week’s worth of posting.
    9.4 million reached per month’s posting.
    113.4 million reached per year’s posting.
    There are about 210 million Whites in America alone, far more in Europe.

     

    These figures don’t lie. They assume 3k people will post 5 mantras per day for a whole year, which is more than we can expect for right now.

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 1 week ago by  J Locke.
    #28775

    Iceknight
    Participant

    John, I think you are looking at things too simplistically in terms of maths.  BUGS is a vehicle for seeding ideas into the population – plant enough weeds on the lawn of the anti-Whites and these weeds eventually mature and send out a whole load more seed.  Give it time and the anti-Whites will look out of their window one day and their lawn will be nothing but weeds  :)

    ‘Anti-White’ has been seeded by maybe 100-200 dedicated people at a rough guess and is already starting to bear fruit.  ’White geNOcide’ will always meet with more resistance as the idea is so toxic to the anti-Whites, but I have no doubt we will get it out there into the mainstream.  Having fewer BUGSters just slows progress,  but it won’t stop the inevitable.

     

    #28776

    Harumphty Dumpty
    Participant

    I don’t see the point in fretting about numbers. We should simply spread the Mantra in every way we can think of spreading it, and try to recruit new bugsers in every way we can think of recruiting them.

    #28779

    Jason
    Participant

    I suspect this is what fancy people would call a “non-linear” phenomenon – meaning you can’t just do simple math and predict the future success of the Mantra.  This is unstable, nonlinear and will burst out in an exponential way at some point.

    The concept of the Tipping Point is valid.  A handful of movers push and push until suddenly it starts to break through to the mainstream.  How and where it will happen is literally unpredictable, IMO.

    #28786

    patrickwhiterabbit
    Participant

    John, I am calling BS.  This is just yet another overly negative post form you.  Something stinks with your posts.

    #28791

    J Locke
    Participant

    Patrick, no. I’m not trying to be negative. I think there should be more talk of why this is going to work in bigger forums like Stormfront. I agree there is a Tipping Point that we don’t know specifically what is. The three posts before you make sense.

    Sorry for my typo, but this line should have read:

    “If each mantra post averages 3 people seeing it, that means 45,000 people reached for each day.”

    ——————

    For people’s information, if we assume 300 people post 5 posts a day, and 20 people see each mantra post on average, that comes to 10,950,000 people seeing the mantra from a year’s worth of posting.

    That can make sizable contribution towards saving White people.

    If we knew the success rate of the mantra we could calculate how long it might take to wake up the majority of the population.

    Perhaps numbers like this could be useful in recruiting people who don’t agree with this strategy.

    Thanks for the feedback.

    #28793

    Peter Whiterabbit
    Participant

    I will post this elsewhere but, in case 6gun or anyone else wants to test mantra recognition scientifically, it is very, very easy. I actually did similar research as a 15 year old. You can gather names and telephone numbers from any research firm. It can be very inexpensive as an introductory offer or can be had for free if you are a solid negotiator. Pick up a phone and call the names on the list. Ask if they have 2 minutes to share their opinion on 5 to 10 marketing phrases. Start with a McDonalds or Burger King phrase, ask “Have you heard of the ? Yes, no or not sure. If yes, ask how effective on a scale of 1 to 5 with 5 being the most effective and 1 being the least effective, the phrase was in making them think about the product (Big Mac, for example)”.
    Then move to another well-known phrase, then another. Mix up food, clothing, political, etc so that it appears as if it is a wide range of topics. After the first 3 or so, ask if they heard of some online phrases. This is when you ask (among others) ‘Have you heard the phrase “anti-racist is a code word for anti-white? Yes, no or not sure.” If yes, on a scale of how effective is the phrase in making you think about genocide on a scale of 1 to 5.

    Analyze results. Report back.

    #28794

    Peter Whiterabbit
    Participant

    I would be more than happy in helping anyone who wants to develop a survey. Like I said, I did it as a 15 year old so it is not difficult to get people to share their opinions on just about anything.

    #37294

    Harumphty Dumpty
    Participant

    For me this was a useful thread…I learned a lot reading it. Thanks.

    I appreciate that it’s J Locke’s nature to question, and, as I just said, I think that’s useful.

    My view is more long term, and it seems to me we’ve scarcely begun, so measuring stuff now…if someone feels compelled to do it, go ahead, but why bother.

    In trying to drum up enough signatures to turn our monthly White House petitions into a national ongoing news story, I’ve been writing this:

    We’ll get WHITE GENOCIDE into the national discourse and make WHITE GENOCIDE a part of everyday conversation.

    THEN WE’LL SEE HOW WHITES VIEW THE RISING TIDE OF BROWN THAT’S SLOWLY SUBMERGING THEM!

    I think the phrase WHITE GENOCIDE will do its own magic over time because it will make Whites look at the circumstances they are living in with new eyes. The fact that the term is not at first accepted doesn’t bother me. I can’t recall my first encounter with the R-word while a young man in the South, but certainly the term must have met the same early resistance there, as I write here:
    “White Genocide” and the R-word: neither found love at first sight!

    My apologies to everyone that I’m not swarming these days. You wouldn’t believe how much time I’m spending trying to get this petition effort under smooth control. I hope to swarm soon.

    #37341

    Kanintass
    Participant

    @J Locke I’ll give U my Swedish perspective. The first time I heard of “political correctness” was in a blog as a kid. That was before it was called blog, just someones homepage. It must have been around 12 years ago. Maby 5-7 years ago it got to be the fashion word of every forum and among pro-whites, anti-immigration movements and populists. In 2008 I heard it in English the first time (discovered Glenn Beck). 2 years ago my sister explained the term to my parents when her boyfriend had used it in a dinner conversation. By that time everyone in my age used it. 1 year ago I saw a anti-white feminist complaining that since the term “PK” (= PC) got on every body’s lips no one dared speak up on racist- and sexist jokes.

    First time I heard “Anti-vit” was maby 2 years ago from a Swedish/Norwegian mantra vid that now has over 75 k views. By now it is used by every pro-white site in Swedish (not allays though). I resently saw it on a counter-jihad type newspaper. It means it brings the question back to RACE whereas PC is used by everyone opposing immigration!

    Resently I saw some anti-white complaining that “antivit” was the new fashionword of Swedens biggest discussion forum. That took maybe 5 Scandinavian BUGSters (?) and a very good movie.

    If people are scared to be labeled PC, than what is anti-white gonna do? And thats just the beginning.

    Every one nows PC today – do you think they all read it individually from a youtube-comment? Or on that blog 12 years ago?

    #37364

    Tom Bowie
    Participant

    Being a bit different, I see a very different set of examples on the Mantra being effective. The conditions of the war of ideas has changed.
    The visible part to me is not in who does the Mantra, it is in who uses Mantra Terms.
    1) David Duke (under special conditions), Don Black (when needed), The Political Cesspool (slips it in between keeping the audience entertained), example after example can be found whereby Mantra Terms are slipped in here and there.
    2) Anti-Whites going out of the way to attack the Mantra and those who use it. Even a glance at Opposing Views section of Stormfront will likely find some Anti-White having made a thread that in some way deals with White Genocide; mostly to say it is not happening or it is our own fault, but talking about it.
    When the rain comes you want rain coats, boots and umbrellas. When one side releases poison gas everybody thinks about gas-masks.
    There has been a change in the conditions of the way this war of ideas is being waged.

    #37367

    J Locke
    Participant

    I agree with this quote on why the Swarm’s strategy can work:

    “Whites who see anti-whites constantly denying they are anti-white and pushing white genocide by mantra users will naturally draw the correct conclusion that there is no smoke without fire.”

    I think some of our most effective Swarms, where we reach the most people, are when we are all on a viral video for hours.

    @HD, I would help promote the petitions past 150, but it doesn’t seem worth the effort because 100k is so far off.

    #37376

    Harumphty Dumpty
    Participant

    @J. Locke:

    Would you like to turn your television on in the evening, any evening, and know you stand a fair chance of hearing the national media discussing the new hot topic, “White Genocide”?

    And go to work the next morning and hear your co-workers discussing the phrases “Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white,” and “Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White countries for EVERYBODY?”

    SURE you would! :D

    Even with just a few hundred signatures, media has already shown it finds WHITE GENOCIDE petitions at THE WHITE HOUSE (!) a sexy item:

    Washington Post: “Frankly, there’s no use trying to understand the mind that would form such twisted views, let alone one that would share them on the Web site of the president of the United States.”

    Harvard professor: “To me this is partially an act of political entrepreneurship…that’s what the site is for or ought to be understood to be for.” [A White House official has stated much the same about the site's purpose, btw]

    Guys, this is THE WHITE HOUSE (!) we’re talking about!

    But even though we’re on public display at THE WHITE HOUSE (!), since the petitions have just a few hundred sets of initials, the media regards them as just a titillation, a passing moment’s object of fun and derision.

    But these petitions with many thousands of sets of initials on them every month for several years will be a major ongoing news topic (even in the unlikely event of being unreported), and a game changer.

    To everyone except us, the White House is important!

    We’ll figure out how to do it (Weirwood is showing an interest, so victory is assured!  :) ). It may take awhile of course. I’ll have more to say in a few days when the petitions for March are submittied.

    I hope to start swarming after that, and since all the petitions are mini-mantras, I’ll be posting the petitions a lot…double whammy! (mantra plus petition). If I post either #5 or#6, triple whammy! (mantra plus petition plus video).

    Big opportunity here IMO.

     

     

    #37377

    J Locke
    Participant

    “I’ll be posting the petitions a lot…double whammy! (mantra plus petition). If I post either #5 or#6, triple whammy! (mantra plus petition plus video).” – HD

    Ok, you have a good point. Can you make comments that are < 500 characters for posting on to YouTube. They should be mini-mantras that include petition links if possible, video link, details, and any mini-mantra part(s) needed.

    Format the url's so they can be posted to youtube.

    #37378

    Harumphty Dumpty
    Participant

    “…since all the petitions are mini-mantras, I’ll be posting the petitions a lot…double whammy! (mantra plus petition). If I post either #5 or#6, triple whammy! (mantra plus petition plus video). — HD”

    (btw, apologies for giving you my standard SF spiel..it seemed the best thing to do)

    “Format the url’s so they can be posted to youtube.”

    I couldn’t find how to do this, but I noticed last night that British Bug included URLS in his youtube comments on his thread
    http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/topic/mini-mantras-pro/

    …so I was going to test those and then question him if  they work, which I’m pretty sure they will since he’s delightfully thorough. So I’m assuming there’s a way to do it.

    My idea until I saw his yt posts with urls in them was to put at the end of my yt posts something like this:

    President Obama helps us fight WHITE GENOCIDE! Google “Hiram’s petitions”!
    or
    President Obama helps us fight WHITE GENOCIDE, and you can help too!

    Google “Hiram’s petitions” and add initials to them!

    Anyone willing to do that would end up here:

    Hiram’s petitions: Is the White House just a white-washed shed in Hiram Dallyrimple’s Backyard?

    It’s a disadvantage in not going to the petitions directly, but an advantage in going not only to the petitions, but also to White Genocide Project and to an explanation of the whole petition drive. More whammy.

    J. Locke, thanks for your interest and the suggestion, and I’ll plan on working up some yt comments. Great idea!!

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