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White Terminology – Our Words Versus Their Words

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  • #25410

    David Joop
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    The point is, we’re supposed to be pushing a consistent message.

    “Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”

    “Diversity is a code word for White genocide.”

    Again. And again. And again.

    Using new words like ‘x’ is code word for anti-white. or ‘y’ is code word for White genocide will just confuse people and dilute the message.

    #25413

    Peter Whiterabbit
    Participant

    CB’s suggestion on this thread are weird but he is entitled to them. He may be a serious, non-troll but he 1 – never posts the mantra and 2 – attacks people on the site and 3 – attacks people outside of bugs to start trouble. Troll or not, he is not good for the site.

    Anyway, I am more disappointed that Bugsters continue to address CB who has on many occasions said he was going home with his toys only to come back to get Bugsters riled up yet again. Unless you are amused with his presence, ignore him. He will go away.

    #25415

    SixGun
    Participant

    @David
    A penny has drop – I visualised the video where the words hit the woman again and again and again – thank-you. I will be a better BUGster now.

    #25419

    David Joop
    Participant

    @six gun

    I’m glad you got it!

    #25454

    Steadiness
    Participant

    Congilio isn’t any dumber than I am, though I really think this article is kinda pointless and unworthy of being a swarm topic. Keep on arguing about stuff guys :D ill go find somewhere to post the mantra

    #25455

    Undercover Lover
    Participant

    I don’t know, there seems to be too much variation here from our consistant message coming from many people. I think we need to have a simple rule list for the newer people around here. Here’s the rule list I operate on;

    1. Always lead it back to white genocide,
    Always lead it back to how _____ leads to white genocide
    Always lead it back to how your enemy supports white genocide.
    This is not “evolution.”
    This is not “replacement.”
    This is not “suicide.”
    This is genocide.

    2. Always call your enemy anti-white.
    ALWAYS anti-white
    ONLY anti-white.

    3. Use the following catch phrase in almost every response
    “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white

    4. Never use your enemys terminology.
    More specifically don’t use the word “racist.”
    Hell, don’t even think the word “racist” unless you’re using it in the catchphrase;
    “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white

    5. Never identify as a percieved criminal.
    You are not a “naziwhowantstokill6millionjews.”
    You are not a “kkkmemberwhowantstolynchalltheblacks.”
    You are not a “racistwhowantstooppressallnonwhites.”
    You are white
    You are normal
    and you have a right to exist.

    #25479

    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    @ David Joop and Coniglio:

    Coniglio, I agree strongly with David about your category A. “Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white” is a SOUND (not just content!) that we don’t want to dilute in any way!

    It’s always, “Winstons taste good, like a cigarette should,” every time. Never, “Winstons taste excellent,…”…that would just break up the mental solidifying of the first phrase in the minds of our audience!

    But as for the refrain, “Diversity is a code word for white genocide,” I thought that was just a line that happened to be in that one beautiful mini that I think David is the person that has posted it everywhere I go to post it, if I’m remembering rightly!

    It’s not a refrain that’s part of the Mantra, and I wasn’t aware if we’re trying to implant that as we are the last line of the Mantra, so I don’t see any problem with most of the word substitutions Coniglio suggests in that one. But David, if you and others who swarm a lot more than I do have used that phrase to the point that it’s become trademark, or I’m overlooking some other factor, I’d likely change my tune on it.

    The reply David handed that visitor who came here looking for how to reply to someone shows David really gets this stuff and has a flair for using it correctly. What this site needs the most right now and is going to need the most in the future IMO is new bugsers with that aptitude who can keep this stuff solid for those of us who have more difficulties with it. So I’m much influenced by anything David has to say.

    But until corrected, I do like the substitutions Coniglio suggested in part B (except I agree with six gun’s (?) caution about “tolerance”…I’d just leave that word alone), and I like his definitions and obsolete terms. But it should be admitted that “white” has only begun the experimental stage…until it’s been experimented with and seems successful, it’s been made clear that there’s not a consensus here for that term.

    #25526

    David Joop
    Participant

    I’m flattered by your praise Harumphty. In regards to your support for the part B variations, I’ll just refer you to my second post on this page of the thread.

    #25527

    SixGun
    Participant

    Ahnenerbe, the username of a young lad on whitenewsnow.com posted a number of “Mantra” “conversations” he had had with what appeared to be good success.

    I copied down bit of what was posted.
    Yesterday I used the R word.
    Agreed one of their words.
    In our discussions there is only one racist, that is the enemy and they are the anti-Whites.

    Horus has that catchy verse;

    “In your opinion I’m a racist, you’re just saying that because I’m White. Anti-racism is just a codeword for anti-White.”

    Here we have the racist term.
    This is a verse everyone should memorise so they know as well as their own name.

    http://www.whitenewsnow.com/bob-whitakers-pro-white-bbq/25207-dropped-mantra-bomb-today-class-burn-baby-burn.html

    It is worth reading what he writes.
    I understand the idea of distancing ourselves from their words.

    Here is one of his pieces

    “Nobody accuses a Chinese person who defends Asians as being an evil racist who is full of hate…

    Nobody accuses an African person who defends Blacks as being an evil naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    People only accuse whites who defend their own people as evil, racist, Nazis…

    and these people have the gall to call themselves anti-racists?

    What they are is anti-white

    Anti-racist is a code-word for anti-White”

    reading this over, it could do with polishing up a bit.

    I used the next verse on a YT video in reply to a poster who said they were fed up of being called racist for no good reason. It got a really large number of thumbs up, more than any I have in recent history. It really connected with the audience of White people.

    “XX calls you a racist.
    You say [yawn..zzzzz]
    What do you mean racist? [most of them can't answer that]
    I’m only racist in your opinion. [it is only in their opinion]
    Why is your opinion of such great value?
    You’re only calling me racist b/c I’m White.
    I mean when did you last call a Black person racist?
    You’re not really anti-racist.
    You’re simply anti-White.
    Anti-Racist is a code word for anti-White.”

    Opinions please.

    #25530

    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    “In our discussions there is only one racist, that is the enemy and they are the anti-Whites.”

    NOT good! The rest seemed okay to me, though I rarely write the word “racist”…I write “R-word” instead.

    I’ve written all I can think of to say on that word and why it’s usually best not to use it, starting at the bottom of page 1 here:
    http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/topic/are-you-new-to-bugs-swarm/

    We don’t want to hammer more deeply into white minds the successful terminology of the anti-whites. We want to hammer in OUR terminology.

    As I messaged someone yesterday and reported on our working thread:

    the R-word is what springs into white minds and onto white tongues whenever race is mentioned.

    We want to make our own phrases, “anti-white” and “white genocide” be the phrases that spring into white minds and onto white tongues whenever race is mentioned.

    We’re working at that the same way anti-whites filled white brains with the R-word: constant repetition.

    #25532

    Daniel Genseric
    Participant

    Seriously, what’s going on here – are we just going to let the trolls determine the direction this site is going?

    I’d like some input from other BUGSers, including the mods on this. – DJ

    Well, what do you expect when you keep engaging them as if their ideas had merit? Merit enough to warrant a reply? Beyond that, all I will say about “trolls” is beware of those who routinely attempt to reinvent the Mantra wheel and seek to discredit our work with a dismissive “cult-ish” stroke of the brush.

    #25533

    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    The R-word ALWAYS carries a fundamental lie that I think undermines the point of the Mantra: the lie that racial feeling is a learned pathology rather than an innate trait that evolved to protect the survival of human groups.

    In my view want to retire the R-word from public discourse, not convert it to our use.

    #25640

    SixGun
    Participant

    CB got a bit deleted there.

    I have been thinking about how to replace the use of the R word in these postings or any conversation.
    I thought about “hateful names”

    This covers all and any of the words and terms.

    So for example this is a piece I copied from elsewhere.

    However, if I bring up mass immigration into White countries and only into White countries, liberals and respectable conservatives alike call me hateful names like naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews. These people may call themselves anti-racists, but what they really are is anti-White.
    Anti-racism is a code-word for anti-White.

    In the original the “hateful names” has the R word and F word.

    So many of the questions we key into on yahoo for example use the R word.
    The reader is expecting to see the R word in the answer.
    So with the hateful names this seems to be a solution to enable a nice key into Mantra with a logical link to the original question.

    Does this appear a reasonable solution?

    #25642

    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    “The reader is expecting to see the R word in the answer.”

    So? Lol! Instead of letting him see the R-word, let him see, “The R-word…blah blah…”

    What’s the F word?

    “Does this appear a reasonable solution?”

    I’m not understanding what suggestion you’re making.

    The appearance of the R-word in our phrase “Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white” is no problem…the force of the R-word is totally diminished in that context, both by it’s being part of a compound word and by what the statement says.

    But note that generally that phrase is our only use of the term “anti-racist.”

    #25670

    SixGun
    Participant

    The hateful words are the usual thrown at Whites, racist, Fascist [F word] Nazi, White Supremacist blah blah.

    Now I accept we don’t use these as this reinforces these words and their association in the mind of the reader.
    I accept we hit the reader with the same phrases [which some people call message] – such as Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White again and again.

    Ahnenerbe – the Canadian lad who describes a lot of real life conversations he has in class. He can’t just say mini Mantras, he has to converse in a normal way with other people.

    Here is a copy and paste from one of his postings
    http://www.whitenewsnow.com/bob-whitakers-pro-white-bbq/25207-dropped-mantra-bomb-today-class-burn-baby-burn.html

    “After all, nobody is telling the Mongolians that they invaded Russia and Poland 800 years ago and therefore they must invite millions of Somalians and Samoans to live with them and if they protest they are called RACISTS…..” (he didn’t capitalise by the way0

    He continues with quite a bit more but he does use say racist, Fascist and Nazi on occasions in his conversations. Now we don’t want to do that, so unless we are going reduce our ability to converse we must find alternatives that do not reinforce the associations.

    So I ask what if.

    “After all, nobody is telling the Mongolians that they invaded Russia and Poland 800 years ago and therefore they must invite millions of Somalians and Samoans to live with them and if they protest they are called “HATEFUL NAMES…..”

    How does that sound?

    #25675

    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    @ six gun: I recommend: “and if they protest, the R-word is screamed at them.”

    The R-word is the name we’re most often called when swarming, right? Anti-whites do it automatically! On YT just a moment ago an anti-white used the word with a broad stroke, so I replied:

    Another anti-white clubbing everything white in sight with the big bad R-word to keep whites submissive to the anti-whites’ program of white genocide.
    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

    #25680

    SixGun
    Participant

    I think I’ll try the “hateful names” out.
    People say “the N word” so they don’t get into trouble for actually using the word, but they are still using it. I think saying “the R word” is just the same, you are still reinforcing the term. Hateful names can mean any of the anti-White names or none of them. It is a cover all phrase which avoids any and all of these stereotypes anti-Whites use against us.

    #25691

    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    Six gun, it’s real easy to run a test on your supposed equivalency of the actual N-word and the phrase, “the N-word.” Just alternately use both terms when speaking to any random group of people and check their reactions.

    Do you really need to do that to know what the results of that experiment will be?

    #25692

    Henry Davenport
    Participant

    @ six gun: The point being that words carry more than just meaning. Words carry an emotional impact that the larger community has attached to their sound or written appearance in an unconscious group process.

    Both the N-word and the R-word carry a heavy emotional charge that has been loaded onto them and absorbed by the general community.

    The phrases, “the N-word” and, “the R-word,” don’t carry those charges. Their emotional effect on people is rather negligible.

    #26001

    Cody
    Participant

    Hey Harumphty, your idea must have influenced ramzpaul, as he has banned using “the R-word” from his youtube channel.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8o-LP5qMeo&list=UUIibK0GTXCaQCA

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