On my discussion of Mark Twain’s book on Christian Science, PeterGeneBudarick says:
Smiling.
The mention of “Christian Science” made me think of some things and wanted to share them.
Lateral thinking…..
I am an atheist of sorts based on my love of science since childhood.
[NOT as a reaction like most atheists]
And also I suppose because the Christian religion failed to completely program me as a child.
There are many reasons for that i know [as I tend to observe and analyse things including myself] but in the end it is pure luck and good genes [and I must say a good mother. Not a wise mother but a GOOD mother!]
But by my own choice, here is an old man who can debate any one on Earth and make a case that God is a great delusion. Especially the Hebraic God of Christendoom, Jewishness [in all its forms] and Islamism [the current wipping boy]. But he has Faith!
But now comes the shocker.
I pray to Jesus Christ as my friend all the time!!!
How is this possible?
I know that the historic Jesus probably was nothing like the image [in both character and appearance] the various Christian denominations and sects have portrayed over the ages.
But somehow I “know” that a GOOD man existed 2000 year ago, and he LIVES ON NOW hrough all those of us who have humility. Not the phony humility of those who put on robes! I wear none of the trappings of religiosity, not even a cross. I certainly never preach about it. I don’t go to Church except when in Russia. And unless you have been to Russia recently you won’t understand why I do this only there.
How can this be?
I can’t even give you a scientific explanation!
I was recently asked by a friend in Queensland over the phone: “But you don’t believe in God?”
I said: “that is true Dennis, and I can proove to my satisfaction – if not yours – that God is a delusion. AND this is as good a proof as the metaphor of the Earth being flat to serve our human need, but despite appearances, it is actually round. But having said that, I understand and i believe in Jesus Christ as you would understand and believe your best friend”.
Now I suppose the Jewish psychiatrists could derive good income from my “case”, except that I don’t give money to useless witch doctors.
But what I said really got Dennis thinking!
the point is that I did NOT say it to make him think!!!
It was just a spontaneous response.
Similarly I don’t think the Universe is trying to teach us anything.
I was sharing with Dennis what I perceived at that moment. Actually he is a far better equipped intellectual than I can ever be!
Sorry for being personal at my end, but it would please me if it brings a smile or two.
Religion is sooooo heavy….
Lets drop it! And it shall fall by the same laws of gravitation [Nucleonic field] that made the plastic planet Earth round.
Best wishes to all.
PeterGene
MY REPLY:
Now I had to edit the hell out of this, and I was happy to do it. Peter Gene just wrote what he was thinking, to hell with capitalizing “i” and so forth.
That’s what I want from you.
SAY it, dammit!
The part I didn’t like was at the end, the sentences that started with “Sorry:”
“Sorry for being personal at my end, but it would please me if it brings a smile or two.”
“Religion is sooooo heavy….”
“Lets drop it!”
Don’t be SORRY at me for doing what I want you to do: SAY IT!
We don’t need diplomacy, the world is packed with diplomats.
We don’t need English teachers. The market is choked with them.
I am trying to save an endangered species: People who THINK.
Budareck and I are in much the same place.
There is a country song, “You’re Walkin’ on the BITIN’ Side of Me.”
To us Bible Belters, even the 99% atheists like me, when you insult Jesus, yo’re walking onthe biting side of me.
On the other hand, the further you get from Jesus, when you drag inthe baggage, you stimulate my ahtiest side. If you want to drive me away from Christianity, the best way is to quote the Old Testament and all the other baggage that has been dumped on it.
I remember that one of the Praise the Lord-type programs had a guest on who had read the Bible and estimated the exact SIZE of Heaven. That hurt my faith badly at the time.
As CS Lewis said, “Jesus was God or he was a madman.”
Even if he was a mad man he towers above history on his cross in a way no one else can approach.
In The Passover Conspiracy, there is very plausible theory that Jesus FAKED death on the cross.
But in the Gospel itself, it SAYS that there was suspicion that Jesus died too quickly.
And in the Gospel, it SAYS that Jesus said the world was ending NOW. That has given Christians FITS. They cannot say he was just plain WRONG.
But, as with Budarick, what upsets the Perfect Man Christians is exactly what gives me faith.
They could have left out the Roman suspicion that he died too quick.
They could have left out his declaration that the world was ending NOW.
They left out NOTHING. That impresses me more than anything they could have said.
If he tried to fake death on the cross, he got his legs broken for it.
I don’t know about you, but I would never have the courage to fake death on the cross, following the routine torture.
And what exactly was the “Show me the money” reward for faking it?
God or mad man, this is the one person in history that I can actually worship without the slightest embarrassment.
#1 by Shari on 03/20/2006 - 6:48 pm
I heard a preacher on the radio years ago say that a man could survive a bad father, but he didn’t think he could survive a bad mother. I guess a lot of my thinking is lateral. Something makes me think of something else.
#2 by Tim on 03/20/2006 - 8:55 pm
Everyone on this website is into religion. I am not. Nor is my generation (and thank Gawd!). Why? Because of this blog I have realized that the Aryan mind must be the center of any religion for that religion to flourish for Whites. Christianity no longer centers itself around the Aryan mind —hence it is dying in the West. An Aryan IS the Religion. From Hinduism to the Zoroastrians nothing is more obvious. We are the Religion. Everything else is Wordism. Jewish books are for the Jews —-let it go Aryan—–let it go. The churches are tombstones. Christianity worked best when it centered itself on the Aryan Blue eyed Jesus. Now it is dead outside of the White part of the Bible belt. Christianity no longer centers itself with the Aryan mind —so it resigns itself to the third world—-and good riddance.
All over the West young men and women are being attacked. They are not being attacked for being French or German or British. They are being attacked for being WHITE. I know what they are mentally going through. I have been there. The Aryan will not need any traditional religion after this. Our Race has always been our Religion. It is just going to be more blatant in the future. I say —let it come. Right now the Aryan is searching. Every White man and women alive right now is searching. The solution stares back at him in the mirror. It is such a relief to have this figured out. Forget the old folks Mr Whitaker —-your eternal life is with the youth.
#3 by Peter Gene Budarick on 03/21/2006 - 7:33 am
You are correct Bob about my usage of “Sorry”.
It was an expression of timidity.
Also perhaps it is a bad habit like starting a sentence with the words “i am affraid”.
English is not not my native language and i have aquired a number of bad habits from English.
You can imagine this: “I am terribly happy……”.
How different German and Russian are by comparison.
I have a problem with hurting people. I don’t mean physically but by speaking the truth. “Loose Cannon” they call me. People are hurt because they avoid the truth and then when they are confronted with the truth it is very painful. I know this because i have experienced it myself. The only reason i face up to the truth is that it hurts a hell of a lot more LATER, if i try to escape into delusion.
But i still have a need to express the truth. Sometimes as children do, it just comes out and i supprise even myself. But then i feel guilty because i have hurt someone with my words. They may believe escape is possible or they may be devastated by it. But communication has been lost.
So i admit that i often lie and keep the light hidden least it may illuminate too much. In Bob’s plain language that means “coward”. I just don’t know how to handle that in others. It is not a problem for me. You can say any nasty thing about me you like [ i am not suggesting Bob, you should or even you would] but it would have no effect because i am my own severest critic. I know myself better than anyone knows me. And if by change someone should point out something which i had not seen before [perhaps because i was in denial] then i will take it on the chin like a man and adapt to that truth if it is at all possible.
For example recently at work a co-worker said to to me: “Ah i know what you want Peter, is to nail all the Jews on crosses and burn them”. For a moment i did not know how to take that. But then i thought about it. I was proud of myself, not because i would ever even think of doing such a silly thing [why nail them on crosses?], but because this man was paying me a complement in a very creative way [and also revealing his own psychosis without even knowing it]. He could have just called me an anti-Semite but you know we work in advertising and so we don’t use cliches. But i thought that was a good compliment. And it was all done with a good sense of humour.
Getting back to the subject of not wanting to hurt others.
I suppose it is this “do onto others” thing. I may be able to take something ‘and turn the other cheek’ but another may not, and perhaps even should not. But i don’t know that a priori. So in dialouge between friends we must risk some and sometimes we appologize. A good developed sense of humour is worthwhile here.
Yes it has become very apparent to me in these latter years, that Jesus Christ even if he never actually existed, would have to have existed some place and some time. It is like you and i live in a world were there are no birds. But we are told about them and think about them and it becomes clear to us that there must have been birds who fly so gracefully in the heavens. Jesus Christ for me is as innevitable and as certain as gravity exists and this vast universe must be AS IT IS. It is inevitable that such a man and perhaps many others like him would evolve. But contrariwise it is a very delicate flower, easily destroyed. Most people miss this. They think the can replace it with violence.
When you think about it Bob with the little understanding of life we have, we can even now see dimly at least that such good man MUST BE. I think i could proove it mathematically given all the possible mutations and evolution process in general. If mankind has evolved as you and i see in our white race, then surely GOOD MAN MUST HAVE evolved also! And the individual being is precious for us white Aryans. Only in the individual can there be this understanding of life and not in the collective.
That is why the historic proofs or the lack of them in regard the the historic Jesus Christ have never been important for me. I don’t care what the learned professors say about the historic Christ.
Jesus is my best friend, but that does NOT mean i am Christian.
My teacher, when i was a young man told us an interesting story.
I will paraphrase it here because i think the story describes beautifully what is wrong with religion.
He said: “One day God and Satan were going for a stroll together looking for converts.
They followed a man they thought was ripe for the picking. Suddenly the man stopped walking and looked down. He saw something and picked it up. They could see a radiant glow of bliss come over his eyes and face. Satan asked God ‘What did that man find which has changed him so?’ God replied: ‘It is a bad day for you old fellow, that man found a piece of truth!” Satan replied smiling: “Oh no old chap, all i have to do is wait and let him organize it!”.
I have always known and often myself had to face up to the fact that a GOOD man may be misunderstood and deemed mad and perhaps also feared and hated. It is very easy to say something based on our perception that others completely misunderstand.
I am not making this into a big problem. I am just aware of it and i try to put it into a relevant context for the reminder of my own life.
You wrote:
>>God or mad man, this is the one person in history that I can actually worship without the slightest embarrassment.