I have been spending a good deal of time on the “antis” section in Stormfront.
One British anti wrote in what she called polite and to the point comments.
This exchange shows some quick ways to deal with anti rhetoric:
Originally Posted by witchhuntergeneral
First of, let me introduce myself. I am English, white, have blue eyes, am athletic, tall, and am doing pretty damn well in my studies if I say so myself. And do I consider myself superior in any way to anyone else on this planet? NO I DO NOT.
*** Everybody considers themselves supreior to somebody. You, for example, consider yourself superior to “racists,” a term you do not define.
Please don’t assume that I regard you all as ignorant or barbaric. I know that the “skin head” image that white supremisis groups get is mere media spin. Yet when I stumbled across this site I was bemused as to what would drive seemingly ordinary white men and women to congregate on a forum and spread racial hatred.
*** I have found in my long life that someone who accuses other people of lying all the time is NEVER a person who takes the truth seriously.
*** You wouldn’t trust someone who kept calling everybody a “liar.”
*** By the same token, someone who accuses others of having no motivation but “Hate” is certainly someone who considers hatred to be a routine motivation.
*** In other words, know thyself.
I’m sure you’ll deny that you are spreading this feverently, but I feel there are some pretty radical posts on this site. Don’t get me wrong; I’m sure some of you had had traumatic experiences with minorities in the past, and you feel genuinely threatened. Why, just the other day an Asian fellow leaned out of his car window and called me a “white cu*t” as I rode by on my bike, having done nothing to him. Yet do I feel contempt for him, or any Asian race? Or any race for that matter? Of course not!
*** I have spent my entire life around blacks. We Southerners do that, while others theorize about it. I have also spent a LOT of time in Africa.
*** You take the general white attitude for granted, and you do not examine it.
*** Like other whites, you don’t give a damn what colored people think of you, but you assume that colored people worry day and night about what we say about them, hence your idea of “Hate” being part of our thought pattern.
*** You don’t realize it, but you are saying is htat they have every right to get together and complain about us, but our sayiing bad things about them is CRUEL.
I’m not some far left winger or minority sympathiser or anything, I’m a regular guy. I think rap music sucks, fundamentalist Islam should be stamped out, and the idea that we must all be politically correct 100% of the time frankly tedious. Yet this doesn’t mean I feel the need to segregate from certain people. Some of my best friends are minorities, and they are no different from you or me.
*** Then why do you assume they have a valid objection to our remarks but you shouldn’t worry about theirs?
Basically I just wanted to know what REALLY motivates you to congregate on this site. And don’t give me that hogwash about declining caucasian birth rates. There are millions of us. We populate the richest countries in the world, and minorities have little political or economic power. And those that do show prowess in their field of work. They are adept at what they do and deserve it.
*** It is neither polite nor to the point to refer to a concern on another person’s part as “hogwash.”
Before I sign off, I have a few criticisms to make. I have read some of the ideologies and theories on here, and find many to be hypocritical. I simply cannot wait for the responses to the questions I pose:
1. If so many of you white Americans believe that minorities have their own countries to go back to, and therefore should, than you yourselves are hypocrites. As descendants of European settlers and colonists, by your own logic you have Europe to go back to. How can you make a claim to the land over minorities? Because you’ve been there longer? Then technically America belongs to… The red man! Native Americans! You have no right to claim the land over anyone. Everyone in, or everyone out. Deal with it.
*** All nations are created by immigration.
*** All nations are destroyed by immigration.
2. Secondly, the idea some white Americans hold that they are “racially pure”. White Americans, as I said above, are a mixture of Dutch, Englsih, German, French, Irish and who knows what else, from Europe. Why, you’re just a bubbling pot of different nations! Racially pure? I think not! Besides, what a silly, old fasioned idea that is. Embrace your fellow man!
*** Actually, no one has any trouble whatsoever defining “white” when it comes to blaming us for things. You just referred to white Americans. You couldn’t do that if this were the myth you talk about.
3. Thirdly, if you regard white people, particularly Nordic or Germanic peoples as top dogs in the race chain, then consider:
The fact that the Romans (I understand you don’t consider Italians to be “truely” white either) wiped the floor with the Germanic tribes countless times through history. As we all know, Romans were better educated, more technologically advanced, and superior in warfair. The Germanic tribes (though blond and pure I’m sure they were) were barbaric and unsophisticated. On what grounds can you declare these people a “master race”?
*** There is difference, too subtle for one who is as little prone to self-examination as you seem to be, between decalring a master race and wanting your race, those whites you refer to as white Americans, in case you forgot, to SURVIVE.
*** You have tacitly joined the camp of those who refer to any white person who is concerned about survival as anaziwhowatnstokillsixmillionjews.
Similarly with the Crusades. You can’t get more black against white. Slowly but surely, time and again the white man was beaten back to Europe by the victorious Arabs.
I don’t mean to insult anyone, I’m just curious as to what your responses will be. Also, I find anti-white racism to be hardly offensive. The word “honky” is just hilarious. It does not have the cruel edge that the word “nigger” does. By taking our knocks as a race, and then having the pride and respect not to retaliate with more racism, we better ourselves. WE retain the moral high-ground. Now stop being racist!
*** Once again you are showing white supremacism. Noe of us care much what non-whites think of us, but you assume we are evil to express our opinions of them.
*** In the real world, while you are blaming us for hateful statements here, you would deny that you are in the same camp with people who send us to prison in your country for our opinions.
*** Do a little self-analysis. Those of us you call “racists” without botherting to define the insult may have something to teach you.
#1 by Shari on 05/09/2006 - 4:53 pm
You have to be smarter than the average bear to deal with this stuff so patiently. I would have a hard time, but I do get the idea of sticking closely to the point! Sometimes I can.
#2 by Antonio Fini on 05/09/2006 - 6:35 pm
It’s too bad that woman who didn’t mind being called c***t by some driveby Pakistanis will have to saved from extinction along with the rest of us.
#3 by mderpelding on 05/09/2006 - 6:52 pm
Mr. Whitaker,
I too spent much time with blacks.
While whites “think”.
Blacks want to F**K.
I am so tired of the constant mantra of how “White People”
did this and that
You can blather on forever about intellectual abilities.
While you talk,
Black people F**K.
Mike Erpelding
#4 by Dave on 05/09/2006 - 8:51 pm
To witchhuntergeneral:
You made your way here, through this wonderful free speech Internet. Forget racial issues, just imagine this: One hundred thousand souls, hovering above graves long forgotten, smiling serenely, murmuring: “At last! At last! At last! The knowing no longer hidden, the learned no longer silenced, the righteous no longer stifeled. NO UNIVERSITY PRESS FOREVER MORE!!!”
You don’t know how lucky you are!
#5 by Mark on 05/10/2006 - 8:31 am
“And those that do show prowess in their field of work. They are adept at what they do and deserve it.”
I suppose this woman would consider those in various African nations who have stolen the white farmland and are now starving to death because they are (racist statment here:) intellectually incapable of raising crops and feeding themselves, “showing prowess” and being “adept”. Adept at what — I’d sure like to know.
Also, if this woman loves non-whites as she claims, I suggest she rent a home in one of the non-white areas and live there for the next five or ten years so she can truly discover the joys of multiculturism first hand. Of course, once she’s raped and/or mugged and/or beaten I would hope she she remember that she has the moral highground to keep from spewing racist hate in the aftermath of her experience.
#6 by Anchorage Activist on 05/11/2006 - 2:41 pm
If people think diversity is so natural, they should visit the Earth Resource Systems website (http://www.ersys.com) and punch up an ethnic map of any major Eastern or Southern American city. You will find the same pattern replicating itself – a non-white inner city surrounded by predominantly white suburbs. Many of us pledge allegiance to diversity with our lips to preserve employability and social standing, but our hearts (and our residences) are far from it.
We need to overcome our fear of being called “racist”. Our opponents use the term “racism” merely to intimidate us and stop all discussion in its tracks. When used on behalf of our race and for its preservation, racism is constructive. Race is actually “extended family”; it’s another means God used to organize His greater human family.
#7 by Dennis on 05/12/2006 - 4:15 am
Concise and to the point.
Mr Whitaker, if there is anything you confirmed for me, and to be honest, the ONLY thing I have really learned from you (everything else I already knew 😉
is that it DOES work to keep your argument consice and to the point.
We go through are schooling thinking more facts/ longer post/ bigger words = more valid point.
Not so. Intellectual discipline is required. There is one, and only one point to what we are doing, that is to preserve our race.
Never let an anti pull you away from that argument. Never debate something else.
This is why we are defending our race. This, only this and nothing but this.
Any anti who tries to debate on how ‘whites are criminals too’, that ‘this isn’t our land’, or that ‘blacks are good at athletics’ must be brought back to this point again and again. If you go along, then you are allowing the anti to attack your race, by attacking our movement without ever needing to make a valid point why you are wrong to defend your race.
While we discuss peripheral, non essential issues, they get to evade the point and score points against us.