B. U. G. S.

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Bob, let me “think out loud” to try to gel this brain-dump of “obviousness.” I’m getting parts of your thought here, but not the whole.

1) The Reformation was brought on by the printing press. But it was not a “popular” revolt. It was a revolt of those who could read. These people in no way, shape, or form constituted a numerical majority. These people *did* constitute a new ruling demographic. This ruling demographic was in position to effect change–and did. These were the people who counted. I gotcha.

I would make the further observation that this new demographic didn’t so much “remake the world” as “reform” what was already in existence. That is, they reordered their society’s institutions in such a way that they–the de facto rulers–gained de jure control. But the institutions of the old regime remained, albeit with a new coat of paint, so to speak. This last bit is what all the “history” of the Reformation is about, the irrelevant parts, naturally. The same is true of the “filoque” controversy, as Bob has pointed out. Similarly, the Reformation was not–as is popularly described–a Soviet-style “intellectual revolution” over mind-numbingly dry theological issues that very few then or since have cared about. A group had arisen that formed the ruling power–but they didn’t have the power. The progression of events transpired so that they gained that power. The Reformation occured for that simplest and most common of reasons: Its time had come. As I’ve described it here, it was quite similar in its broad strokes to the American Revolution, no?

2) A “grassroots” rebellion exists only in fantasyland. In the real world, there are opposing groups who vote as a block. In such a scenario– with more or less evenly matched sides–the solution is to identify those who THINK, and sway them to your side. This group, had they been alive at the time of the Reformation, would have been the “revolutionaries,” –or at least their supporters.

3) The slack-jawed TV-gawkers (Sorry Creative Loafing, that’s your demographic. The ability to read isn’t what it used to be, eh?) are too sorry even to be prodded by their masters. It is pointless to waste time *directly* trying to get them to do anything. If they were alive at the time of the Reformation, they would have constituted the mass of the population.

4) *This is the part where I have to read-in to get the particulars of what Bob thinks is obvious.* A Cyber Revolt would be like the Reformation in the sense that the revolutionaries are those who are A) Aware of Their Disenfranchisement. B) Care. C) Will do something about it. The Internet now thus functions like the printing press then as the medium through which revolution ignites. It begets a revolution of ideas toward a very practical and age old end. The attribute that differentiates these from the MTV-types is the ability to think.

But that only identifies the strategy, not the tactics. The mantra is the *What*. Now is *When*. *Why* is obvious. *Where* is the net. The *How* is post on message boards. But what is the “Who”? That is, which message boards? Let’s put the marketing theory to work on this.

Glenn Livett

PS: My experience is that it’s the thinkers among the “creative loafing” set who will respond best.

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The Artist Formerly Known As Nobody replies to mrpelding:

To understand Dave’s comment, and why it is MUCH more substantial than it might seems at first glance, look at it, and look at his subsequent paragraph:

dave wrote:
“White people need to organize their structures in which they operate in a racially coordinated fashion that is wholly inaccessible and invisible to Jews and nonwhites.”

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This is a simply stunning insight; the logical extension of this can be seen by looking to any – ANY – municipality the demonic JEWS and their Colored attack animals control. Let me make this clear – look at the former Rhodesia. See how the Whites were systematically dispossessed, and now are literally running for their lives?

Now, look at South Central Los Angeles, or the South Side of Chicago. See a pattern?

See our future, if things continue the way they have?

now, look at dave’s next thought:

I don’t care what WNs or any “political cause” says. Nonwhites and Jews are incapable of successful self-governance and self-reliance. If you really don’t understand that meaning of that, you have got a problem in seeing the basics.

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This is true; the goddamn demonic JEWS only exist as parasites, especially in their own country. If it wasn’t for the billions of dollars we give them, they would have gone under fifty years ago.

Peter Shank made the astute observation – Democracy is ONLY seen in Western Civilization, the Creation of the WHITE people. Simple as that.

dave wrote:
THAT NONWHITES AND JEWS ARE INCAPABLE OF SELF-GOVERNANCE AND SELF-RELIANCE IS THE PROBLEM, THE BAD CONSEQUENCES FROM WHICH WE MUST CONTSRUCT A SHIELD.

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Fascinating idea.

We have used DISTANCE as our shield, always moving one more exit up the Interstate.

This will only work if we move MUCH further away, and, even then, the goddamn JEWS will just build Section 8 housing a mile away from your nice, White neighborhood.

Our Shield MUST derive organically from our Culture, and must be something along the lines of a new way of thinking – from defense, and onto the constructive equivalent of offense.

This is a very useful topic for later discussion.

A possible model might be the Mormon Church under Brigham Young; believing themselves to be Chosen – better – than their neighbors, he moved them to the middle of Nowhere, and struggled developing a new Community, around a new Culture, around a Christian ethos that was not limited to the Institutional understanding of Christianity at that time. He also developed unique governing institutions along the RACIAL lines of his special people.

The Northwest Trilogy of Harold Covington lays out some ideas on how a governmental structure that only our RACE can develop and implement – National Socialism – could take root and flourish in an explicitly RACIAL Republic in the American Northwest.

dave wrote:
That is the real task of whites. This has nothing to do with politics as it is ordinarily thought of at all. It is the reason why the efforts of the British National Party are doomed, and also the efforts of Stormfront so far as Stormfront aims at ordinary type of political influence.

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The Hegelian Model – simply salami slicing the difference until we have nothing left – guarantees the impotence of such political systems in the political system. The BNP just gelded itself by just a system. Stormfront developed its political ideas for a different political time.

I support Duke’s substantial contributions to learning from the political system, within the political system. Yet, the mindboggling attacks on Duke show how desperately afraid the JEW-controlled political system is of White people organizing – or even THINKING – along explicit RACIAL lines.

Incidentally, Bill White of the ANSWP is moving forward with quiet authority in the area of electoral politics.

I suspect Dave’s idea – the construction of defensive shields, for example, at the Cultural level – is an idea well worth developing.

Of course, we can compromise our way into being New Rhodesia…

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The Artist Formerly Known As Nobody replies to Alan:

All other races come to the lands occupied by our RACE, because WE, and only WE, can look at the red sand in the desert, transform it into iron, steel, alloys, build rails, the internal combustion engine, steamships today, and starships, tomorrow. Only WE can make Democratic Governance work – I still have doubts about how well Democracy scales – and, with this, create a political and economic system that allows for human dynamism to flourish.

Look at Rhodesia before it returned to the Dark Continent in all possible ways.

More to the point, look at how many people in Rhodesia refused to see the obvious Truth about RACE which was right before their eyes. Yet, as long as one electric light works in the former Rhodesia, the jungle savages will find it, follow it, and put it out – it, and the Creative Mind that created it.

In my younger day I read – and reread – “Atlas Shrugged.” To those who say it could never happen, just look at what happened to Rhodesia, and what is happening to South Africa, even as we speak.

Dave’s idea – in essence, and this is an oversimplification – the construction of defensive shields at the Cultural Level is necessary, well, and good, up to a point. This was part of the function of Christianity, and the educational development of Western Civilization.

Yet, we have been on defensive, and keep running – a recipe for delaying the day of reckoning, and, eventually, failure. The “Next Exit Up The Interstate” option runs into limits.

Then what?

If we start with RACE, we can pretty much start anew, on higher ground, by seeing previous solutions more as matters of Form, than matters of Substance.

The German Cross website lists some of the social and technological miracles that took place in broke, bankrupt, NSDAP Germany, simply because – and this is the key – the explicit RACIALLY BADES THINKING of the New Leadership systematically neutralized the demonic JEWISH control system. Freed up, as if leaving a Platonic Cave, the RACIAL SPIRIT was allowed to Creatively solve problems, with new, Creative solutions.

There was no place else for the people of NSDAP Germany to run to. They had to stand, and fight – INTELLIGENTLY. Atlas stood ever taller, ever prouder, in such a social order.

In Rhodesia, Atlas was beaten to death.

The same is true of our Inner Cities. No room for Atlas here, and no room for the RACE that Created the cities, the new urban jungles.

Thanks to the Internet, we are beginning to build the New Atlantis, FIRST in our Minds, and, in time, wherever we are. The keys are to THINK RACIALLY, and then ACT wisely, along RACIAL lines.

A useful idea to keep in mind is simply to identify RACE in terms of the BEST members of your Family – “Family First” might be a useful organizing model, indeed. Bear in mind that the Family you are born into is a lower limit on the definition of Family; a son who chooses to live the (gelded) lifestyle of the whigger, bluntly, might not deserve a place at the head of the table, in Family discussions, if you know what I mean, and I think that you do.

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Harold Covington’s Northwest Trilogy lays out some ideas that we might find useful. In the meantime, the example of Brigham Young might serve us well, in reminding us of the importance of starting where we are, and being what we want the world to become.

In the meantime, to those who choose not to deal intelligently, concretely, and forthrightly, on the issue of RACE, think of Rhodesia, and then think of the New Atlantis of “Atlas Shrugged.”

Everything worthwhile flows from the Idea of RACE, as Yockey defined it.

The further away we get from that conception of RACE, and from that the Primacy of RACE, the further we slide into the Darkness, the Platonic Cave where our RACIAL enemies tell us the Shadows on the Walls are the Greater Reality. (Sort of like television, isn’t it?)