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Posted by Bob on March 11th, 2008 under General


The last time I was in New York City I had a couple of days to kill, so I decided to hang out in Harlem with no aim in particular. Just hang out and take a gander at what was real. I wandered around many of Harlem’s ordinary neighborhoods, places where white tourists would ordinarily fear to tread.

Of course, I was noticed. The kids, the teenage boys (all darkies of one brand or another), especially noticed me. I could see the “this dude must be a cop” look on their faces as they stared at me with a mix of defiance and fear. I made no attempt to be friendly as that would have been stupid.

But what I really noticed about them began to upset me. They were way too put together, too sober, too alert, too much in paying real attention mode, too carefully attired. They seemed “tailored” to me, and their style seemed even tasteful. This was way off my usual experience of teenagers. And I noticed this a lot throughout Harlem.

The Harlem cops even seemed “pulled together” in contrast to my usual experience of cops. They were buff. They wore the old style police revolvers, and their guns seemed well cared for. Their traditional leather holster upholstery was even nice and well cared for. They wore their guns comfortably. They were cool in their stance and sense of presence, way off my usual experience of cops.

I contrasted that with what I usually experience in my own predominately white community. The white teenagers in my community are far too often messes. I see them in their one-size-fits-all falling off the ass dirty jeans and sweats, with marijuana addled eyes. They tend to wander around in dazes and babble gibberish. I often feel like horse whipping them.

The cops in my community are fat pigs, carry standard issue “earth shoe” Glock autos, strapped and locked down in nylon belts that act as girdles for their fat jiggling bellies. They always look like they are pending a heart attack when they climb in and out of their police cars in pain.

The other day the Sheriff arrested a WN clown that lives just out of town from where I live, Confederate Flag flying proudly over his dump of a property. He was given a warning for failing to properly dispose of an animal carcass. This clown and filthy derelict had just let his horse die of neglect and then he didn’t even properly dispose of the carcass. There is no animal cruelty law in my county for livestock, so the clown got off on that count.

Do I want be associated with these kind of “allies”? No way!

In contrast, I could take the dark skinned teenagers I experienced in Harlem and do something with them. They DON’T SURVIVE in THEIR community if they are derelict and KNOW IT. It is obvious they hate dereliction. You can just see it in their mannerisms, dress, stance, and speech. They are totally drug free and sober. They are PAYING ATTENTION.

I know that I could take those Harlem teenagers and organize them into a potent force.

Not so with the derelict loses to humanity I tend to experience in my own community with “working class” brands (meaning no father at home) types of white teenagers.

See the problem we got? See the challenge we are facing?

It is not so easy just to say, “You are my ally if you are against what I am against”.

It is a much deeper issue than that and a troubling issue for white nationalism.

ME:

It is interesting that suburban kids worship the Great Culture of Rap and Harlem. Those who have to LIVE in it want to get OUT of it.

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  1. #1 by Tim on 03/11/2008 - 10:51 am

    Great post Dave. I had a near experience contrasting the Eastern Block Europeans with their Wester European and American Counterparts. Just walk through some of the working class White areas in the UK and then immediately fly to a similar neighborhood in Poland. Same type of experience.

    Liberalism is spiritual death. Liberalism mixed with Christianity and this so called Capitalism is slow agonizing death. Poles may be Christians—but they ain’t liberals. The Eastern Block has been given a gift by being late to this game. In fact, I can envision a German/Eastern Bloc/Russian Alliance some day that sucks out the Daves and Tims from around Western Civilization. And so-called Western Civilization would move East.

    Your point about White Nationalism is correct as well. For WN to be successful, half of them (that I have met) would have to disappear.

    Of course, we have nature on our side. Most WN are worried about saving America etc. We are interested in OUR RACE. And we all know we got a lot of dead weight. The good news is dead weight does not survive in this environment for long. For exactly the same reason that dead weight does not survive in Harlem for very long. Now we just got to get the dead weight out of office so they can’t represent us. Oh and the current enviroment is already helping us…..thank you Obama.

  2. #2 by Sys Op on 03/11/2008 - 1:44 pm

    Tim,

    I believe we will never know how many white people vote for obama for what you said. But, he has to make the ballot first. Since he is a black nationalist using liberalism’s machinery, I’m not sure that the great white ruling bureaucracy will be much moved no matter who gets it. All this is is money. $$$ Who gets it, keeps it, and what they will buy with it.

    Any resistance will get you into jail, which is happening now, thus taking genes and brains out of the mix, so it will be interesting to see what pans out if he were really put into office January ’09.

    Hail to Monsanto!

  3. #3 by shari on 03/11/2008 - 1:47 pm

    There are non-whites that you can have some respect and sympathy for, and whites that you cannot. But the two things I am TOTALLY against are these. The constant push for white genocide, both sweetly and not so sweetly. And non-whites and governing whites will always prove intolerable.

    Having said that, it usually IS certain whites that I feel are the biggest threat. Anti-white racists who KNOW what they are doing. Derelicts would be taken care of in short order if our country wasn’t so tyranically lawless.

  4. #4 by shari on 03/11/2008 - 2:28 pm

    My hope is for both the survival of BOTH the East and West. I base this on my belief in Christ.

  5. #5 by Brutus on 03/11/2008 - 10:50 pm

    “I’m not sure that the great white ruling bureaucracy will be much moved no matter who gets it.”

    Right. Whites say a lot of things we really don’t mean.

    As I have said before, CERTAIN whites whipped the Apaches hands down, we are more than capable.

    Sweat in the eyes and blood on the chest is just what the doctor ordered for the best of us. We just keep on going for what we want, the Devil be damned!

    What has any Christ got to do with any of this?

  6. #6 by Brutus on 03/11/2008 - 11:16 pm

    Again,

    “The recent destruction of a dead spy-satellite by a U.S. missile caused talking heads and leaders of other countries to speculate about the reasons. The U.S. maintains that the falling satellite might have caused harm to people and property. Some foreign leaders assert that the U.S. merely used the destruction of the satellite to practice its missile-defense capability.

    Or perhaps the U.S. wanted to ensure that the high-technology equipment aboard the satellite would not fall into the hands of others.

    No matter the reason, one cannot help but be mighty impressed by the technology—an infrared-detector-guided missile shooting down a fast-moving, cold satellite.”–A new vdare article.

    Like I said, our power is simply overwhelming.

  7. #7 by AFKAN on 03/12/2008 - 4:07 pm

    This is a singularly important topic, and I’ll need some time to place Brutus’s comments in juxtaposition with one of Dave’s comments, hopefully to our mutual benefit.

    Dave’s theme deserves a book-length treatment in its own right, as it echoes some of the late Dr. Sam Francis’s clear racial thinking.

    Dave wrote:

    The last time I was in New York City I had a couple of days to kill, so I decided to hang out in Harlem with no aim in particular. Just hang out and take a gander at what was real. I wandered around many of Harlem’s ordinary neighborhoods, places where white tourists would ordinarily fear to tread.

    in reply:
    The emphasized section is of critical importance.

    Implicitly, forty years worth of The War on Drugs has created a nascent, parallel nation within our own country, one whose existence is kept away from the too-observant eyes of They Who Rule.

    When Dave left The Zone Of The Facade, he saw this truth’s temporal manifestation.

    Dave wrote:

    Of course, I was noticed. The kids, the teenage boys (all darkies of one brand or another), especially noticed me. I could see the “this dude must be a cop” look on their faces as they stared at me with a mix of defiance and fear. I made no attempt to be friendly as that would have been stupid.

    in reply:
    Law of the Jungle.

    In such a social order, people who don’t belong there, and act friendly, so so out of fear. The Predators react, instinctively, to overwhelm something that is afraid of them, and thus poses a potential threat.

    The only thing that stops them is the lack of fear, and the certainly of immediate, forceful, retaliation.

    Period.

    Dave wrote:

    But what I really noticed about them began to upset me. They were way too put together, too sober, too alert, too much in paying real attention mode, too carefully attired. They seemed “tailored” to me, and their style seemed even tasteful. This was way off my usual experience of teenagers. And I noticed this a lot throughout Harlem.

    in reply:
    THAT is the phrase that pays.

    This is a level of social organization that implies an intelligent, controlling Leadership.

    We usually miss this, all of the time.

    NONE of this is by accident…

    I suspect we would have looked at what Dave saw, and seen a common, though very subtle theme – one piece of clothing of the same color, for instance.

    Is “tailored” a euphemism for “organized and disciplined?”

    Yes.

    Dave wrote:

    The Harlem cops even seemed “pulled together” in contrast to my usual experience of cops. They were buff. They wore the old style police revolvers, and their guns seemed well cared for. Their traditional leather holster upholstery was even nice and well cared for. They wore their guns comfortably. They were cool in their stance and sense of presence, way off my usual experience of cops.

    in reply:
    And THAT is the “tell,” the distinguishing mark that a parallel social order is being developed.

    Through forty years of The War on Drugs, the police was The Enemy, seen by many as the functional equivalent of an occupying army.

    Gradually, a new social order developed, and Affirmative Action took its fullest flower as the structural transformation of the Racial Revolution.

    Thus, the people of HarlemNation can NOW say, “WE have OUR policemen…and they are BETTER than YOUR policemen. OUR policemen are in shape, have their own distinctive uniform, and walk with pride among US.”

    An entire, parallel social system – a NATION within a nation.

    Dave wrote:

    I contrasted that with what I usually experience in my own predominately white community. The white teenagers in my community are far too often messes. I see them in their one-size-fits-all falling off the ass dirty jeans and sweats, with marijuana addled eyes. They tend to wander around in dazes and babble gibberish. I often feel like horse whipping them.

    in reply:
    The one community was reduced to its bare bones, and SOMEONE intelligently organized them into a parallel social order that WORKS, with targeted discipline and effectiveness.

    There was a series of paperbacks, back in the late Sixties, that dealt explicitly – and favorably – with the Black community creating a parallel social order using forceful means.

    Hmmmm…..

    Dave wrote:

    The cops in my community are fat pigs, carry standard issue “earth shoe” Glock autos, strapped and locked down in nylon belts that act as girdles for their fat jiggling bellies. They always look like they are pending a heart attack when they climb in and out of their police cars in pain.

    in reply:
    I had long argued for the adoption of the Marine Corps height/weight standards for our local police agencies.

    I have been laughed out of the room.

    My arguments were couched in the financially favored phrases of wellness programs, and lowered cost of health insurance.

    Of course, I wanted them to look more like the Warriors in the Mote Universe, and less like people who the Civil Service would reject on health issues.

    To no avail.

    The Harlem police are different.

    They consciously represent the best of their – repeat – THEIR- community.

    Dave wrote:

    The other day the Sheriff arrested a WN clown that lives just out of town from where I live, Confederate Flag flying proudly over his dump of a property. He was given a warning for failing to properly dispose of an animal carcass. This clown and filthy derelict had just let his horse die of neglect and then he didn’t even properly dispose of the carcass. There is no animal cruelty law in my county for livestock, so the clown got off on that count.

    Do I want be associated with these kind of “allies”? No way!

    in reply:
    THIS is pretty much, with rare exceptions, the White Nationalist “Movement” has attracted – people who are in REACTION to social changes they can not comprehend, rather than people who are taking ACTION to be what they want the world to become.

    Alex Linder said it best:

    “It’s the damndest thing I have ever seen. We have the best Ideas, and the worst bunch of people out there representing us you could imagine.”

    This is because, among other reasons, the people with the Stars and Bars in their front yards have accepted their Racial Enemy’s Terms and Definitions.

    The First Klan was formed from a dispossessed, battle-hardened Elite: the CSA’s Officer Corps.

    The Latest Klan is formed from men who were losers when they came, and will be losers when they leave.

    The seeds of Opportunity are available to us, however…

    But, DAMN, this is going to be a lot of work!

    Dave wrote:

    In contrast, I could take the dark skinned teenagers I experienced in Harlem and do something with them. They DON’T SURVIVE in THEIR community if they are derelict and KNOW IT. It is obvious they hate dereliction. You can just see it in their mannerisms, dress, stance, and speech. They are totally drug free and sober. They are PAYING ATTENTION.

    I know that I could take those Harlem teenagers and organize them into a potent force.

    in reply:
    I suspect Someone is doing just that, even as we speak.

    “This is not by accident.”

    Dave wrote:

    Not so with the derelict loses to humanity I tend to experience in my own community with “working class” brands (meaning no father at home) types of white teenagers.

    in reply:
    Does it strike you that a useful analogy might be something like this:

    The Soviet Union’s structured bankruptcy cleared the slate for an new, RACE-based, meritocratic, hierarchical, organic social order, which has already faced all of the economic calamities we will be facing, and has come though with a firm foundation, based on the White Race as the Rulers of Russia, and the Russian Federation?

    Think Harlem had the single mother problem forty years ago, and SOMEONE saw some implicit possibilities in the situation?

    Think we are a good forty years behind the curve?

    Dave wrote:

    See the problem we got? See the challenge we are facing?

    It is not so easy just to say, “You are my ally if you are against what I am against”.

    It is a much deeper issue than that and a troubling issue for white nationalism.

    in reply:
    This issue has been bothering me for some time.

    All of the ecological textbooks note the obvious – Organization Beats Disorganization, every time, every place.

    The White Race has been systematically disorganized, at virtually all points, as if, somehow, some light switch was turned off.

    In fact, the social fabric – the DNA, if you will – was replaced by the materialistic Dark Vision of the controllers of mass communications, in general, and the color television, in particular.

    With nothing available, the kids of HarlemNation organized around the basic social fabric, such as it was, and made the best of it it could be.

    “Community Role Models” replaced fathers, and THAT ethos is what you see in the HarlemNation police.

    You can bet that, after the Black Church, the secondary, society wide organizing force in the HarlemNation is the Police Athletic League. THAT organization is funded, and will ALWAYS be funded.

    In the White communities, fatherhood is mocked, and men are gelded routinely.

    The Evangelical Christians are trying to build a wall against this Cultural, Race-based attack, acting on a damn near intuitive level to Create hteir own Institutions, notably beginning with the home school movement – which IS a MOVEMENT.

    We should learn from this.

    While we can.

  8. #8 by AFKAN on 03/12/2008 - 4:14 pm

    Brutus wrote:

    *snip*

    No matter the reason, one cannot help but be mighty impressed by the technology—an infrared-detector-guided missile shooting down a fast-moving, cold satellite.”–A new vdare article.

    Like I said, our power is simply overwhelming.

    in reply:
    Respectfully, we don’t control vast sections of our own cities at night, and some of them, during the day.

    Think of our technology as being like Legions that serve because they must, and can only do what they are told.

    Not one of these devices protects our homes from the home invasion waves that occur more often than the newspapers admit.

    There is damn near an impotence of power, that can only be projected in very special circumstances, while we allow our homes, our Culture, the very fabric of our social Reality, to be overwhelmed and undermined by our Racial Enemies, master Wordists, one and all.

    Take the example of the HarlemNation Dave discussed.

    What can we do about them, or those who feel as they do, and are coming soon, all too soon, to a neighborhood near you?

    What can we DO about them, and what stops us from doing more…

    While we can.

    My suggestion is right out of Dr. Sam Francis, and his MARtians:

    Start Where We Are.

    Start with EvangelicalNation.

    More to follow.

  9. #9 by Bob on 03/12/2008 - 6:36 pm

    Brutus, I think the military insisted on the shootdown to show how ridiculous those who called SDI “Star Wars” and said the technology was useless look foolish.

    Don’t wait for the media to confirm that. For some odd reason, they never hammer on something that makes what they said look as stupid as it is.

  10. #10 by Guest123 on 03/14/2008 - 1:12 am

    Wow. Very good stuff Dave.

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